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Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge saves lives Edition

Previous: >>51363673

A general thread to collect all of the smartphone purchase threads into one place. Try not to argue, and provide evidence for claims.

Suggestions to this general OP post are appreciated!

>YouTube Reviewers
https://www.youtube.com/user/AndroidAuthority
https://www.youtube.com/user/pocketnowvideo
https://www.youtube.com/user/gadgetmatch
https://www.youtube.com/user/jon4lakers
https://www.youtube.com/user/SuperSafTV

>/g/ Approved Review Sites
http://www.gsmarena.com
http://www.phonearena.com
http://www.notebookcheck.net
(Give us recs here, and I'll add them in the future)

>Anon's Mobile Device Guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxMugiNgJ2qteHBfNFJyLUgxN1k/view
(to the anon who made the basic phone guide, this is just me but perhaps it would be better to turn it into a spreadsheet on Google docs so that it's "easier" to read?

Here's an example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true)

>/g/ Approved Phones
Budget Phone: Moto /g/, One+X (Doesn't work in the US quite yet)

/g/ approved flagship: LG V10

/g/'s latest shilled phone: Sony Xperia Z5 Family, Samsung Note 5

>USA Buyer's Guide for Sony Xperia Z5 Family
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/07/usa-buyers-guide-sony-xperia-z5/
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Looking for a new Smartphone USD300 top, what would be my first choice?
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>>51388580

Looking for manlet phones (4.5"-4.8") - $250 max.

Suggestions?
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>>51388580
just got my oneplus x in the mail (germany). Should I keep it? Concerned about battery, audio quality (headphones/bluetooth) and the camera.
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Wait for the S7

How amazing will it be? Sadly I can't wait that many months I need a phone nao
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>>51388712
Alcatel Idol 3, Asus Zenfone 2, One plus One

>>51388723
first gen Moto X, Z3 Compact, Idol 3 4.7"
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>>51388723
Moto G 3rdgen is decent budget device.
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>>51388952

>Moto X First Gen

Didn't think of that, I'll consider it.

Z3 compact is too expensive.

How is the Idol 3?

>>51388952

Decent budget device, but too big.
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>>51388995
>How is the Idol 3?

from what I've read its pretty damn good
>choice of 4.7" or 5.5" screens (can't remember res of 4.7")
>SD 615
>16-32 GB storage with mSD support
>2-3 GB RAM
>decent front facing speakers
>near stock Android
>pretty good 13MP camera

the only cons are the 615 is not that good of a SoC, and I don't know how much support Alcatel will provide for Android on this device, but I hear the speakers are really good
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>>51389114

Alright, any more suggestions? - $250 max.
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>>51389129
can't think of anymore t b h, all the manufacturers have been creating 5" and up for good devices, maybe the S5 Mini, but Touchwizz sucks, honestly you'll have to look into it a bit more, if I was you I would just suck it up and look at either the Nexus 5 or HTC One M8, and the One performs better since its gotten the Lollipop upgrade
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how is the Xiaomi Redmi 2 ?
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>>51389242
yurofag? if so, not bad except for MIUI
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best phone for cyanogenmod other than OPO street shitter garbage?
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Anyone have experience of Samsung S5 Evo and Sony Xperia M5? I'm about to pick one as I type this and aware of their specs, cameras etc. but I'd like to have some actual input from those who know better.
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>>51389534
Zenfone 2 is doing pretty good on CM 12.1
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>>51388580
>Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge saves lives Edition
That's not even an Edge, what the fuck is wrong with you, op? Are you fucking retarded?
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>>51389209

>suck it up

It's not about 'sucking it up', - they're just too big to hold.
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>>51389743
well there aren't too many choices for handsets in that size that are recent, so if I were you I would either
>grow a couple inches, manlets
>suck it up and get a phone that's around 5"
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>>51389762

Yes, like it's possible to simply grow.
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>>51389773
>science

it's a wonderful thing anon
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>>51389794

What are you on about.
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>>51389803
the answer to the question lies in science, get some hormones
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>>51389821

Wouldn't that just make you "bigger" (i.e. muscle etc.)

Didn't know you could grow more once you'd reached a certain age.
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>>51389837
HGH makes bones grow, Barry Bonds's head grew inches after he started taking it
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>>51389860

Don't like the look of those side effects.
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>>51389913
it's the only way you're going to grow out of your girlie way of thinking, or you could just suck it up and get a 5" handset
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>>51389961

>girlie way of thinking

What the fuck does that mean - I just want a phone that fits my hands, holy shit.
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nexus 5X - fast android updates, perfect size, fingerprint scanner

moto x pure - SD card slot, qHD screen looks good but doesn't get the best battery life, decent update schedule

which one to get /g/?
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>>51389997
how does the extra .3" not fit in your hands? you must have tiny girly hands
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>>51390041

I do have tiny girly hands, and I'm 6ft 2", it fucking sucks.
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>>51390033
the pure, the chipset does better in the Moto for some reason and you get mSD support
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>>51390047
I'm 6'1" with bear paws, the only issue is my fingers are not long, other than that I can hold any phone I want
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>>51390033
Droid Turbo 2
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>>51390053
does better even though it's pushing 4x as many pixels?

and mSD looks cool but i have all my music on google play and am almost never without cell service so i'm not sure how much i would use it.
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>>51390136
>taking it up the ass from Verizon
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>>51390163
from the benchmarks, and I know I will get shit for this, the Moto X Pure scores higher more consistently than the 5X even though they both have the SD808, even the G4 scores higher more consistently
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>>51390176
So get the international version and put it up Verizon's ass.
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also reviews on the 5X say that the Moto X Pure performs better as a daily while the 5X gets choppy, read laggy, when just browsing the homescreens
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>>51390214
>no band 12 or 17 support

pass, might as well get the Oneplus X
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>>51388580
>/g/ approved flagship: LG V10
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>/g/'s latest shilled phone: Sony Xperia Z5 Family, Samsung Note 5


Dont you love when a general thread has no bias?
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>>51389114
I read that's somewhat laggy and they confirmed they won't update it to lollipop or marshmallow. I'm thinking about buying it but there are better choices
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>>51390176
Verizon right now looks to be cheaper than T-Mobile if you don't care about having tons of 4G usage.

My wife and I rarely ever even come close to using more than 2-3 GB a month, so we're thinking about it because Verizon has vastly superior coverage to ATT or TMobile.
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>>51390264
You don't get it do you
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>>51390278
Get what?

I get the V10 is a fine phone, but you're going to have to add more than just the V10 to the list of /g/ approved phones or you simply come off as Biased as fuck. Sure the V10 is the current top dog for snapdragon, but there are other devices that are up to par or better than it as well that aren't mentioned simply because the OP is biased against no removable battery and no mSD card.

Again, it's obvious bias and any general thread with obvious bias in the first post is worthless garbage.
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>>51390266
heard that about lag, I thought it was on Lollipop though, but that's why I recommend the ZF2 and its confirmed to get Marshmallow

>>51390268
Verizon is not that much greater at LTE coverage than AT&T, have you seen a map recently? I also hate CDMA networks because you can't BYOD like you can with GSM networks and the device choices aren't as good if you're not looking for the top of the line, also VZW does shady shit
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daily reminder samsung is no longer shit with updates and anyone claiming they are is perpetuating old memes.
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Just bought a Galaxy S5 Neo. Did I do good?
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>>51390375
>only phones that are less than a year old will get the update (4 months late)

and you will still have touchwiz
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>>51390375
>galaxy s6 active already dropped
Bullshit, they're just as shit as they ever were, pumping out thousands of phones with no updates, and only updating their year old flagships and even then it'll take months. Samsung is fucking shit
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>>51390346
>simply because the OP is biased against no removable battery and no mSD card.
>Again, it's obvious bias and any general thread with obvious bias in the first post is worthless garbage.


The OP changes every time due to suggestions.

/g/'s approved smartphone list would be based off of what /g/, aka anons in these generals, have to say about it.

Why don't you start with proposing what you think a /g/ approved flagship should be?
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>>51390450
Touchwiz isn't bad anymore on phone released in 2015. FFS, it even has a theme engine.
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>>51390375
wut?

>2000+14
>buy galaxy s5 as the current samshit flagship
>a year passes
>hmm... you know goyim maybe we update or maybe don't

S M H T B H F A M
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>>51390499
Moto /g/

The only correctly answer.
>Under $200
>Great camera
>Decent specs
>Meh battery life
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>>51390523
>>hmm... you know goyim maybe we update or maybe don't
Everything on phase 1 is confirmed getting 6.0 you cock munch. They just haven't confirmed a date of release yet because the current flagships get priority.

All phase 2 phones will be getting 6.0 as well, just later in 2016. And phase 3 includes even more phones not shown on that list that are slated for updates in the 2nd half of 2016.

Stop being retarded.


>>51390450
S5 is 24 months old in april and it is on the phase 1 list meaning it IS 100% getting the update. That is 2 years after it launched fuck face.


Also, what other phones are going to be running 6.0 by 2016? Looks like my note5 will.

>>51390474
The active series is always behind the main galaxy series, this has always been the case because its AT&T only. It will be getting 6.0 100% you fucking idiot.
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Posting the best Android phone on the market now. Poor faggots no need to apply.
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>>51390544

1. That's not a flagship

2. It's already under budget phones
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>>51390567
>Everything on phase 1 is confirmed getting 6.0 you cock munch. They just haven't confirmed a date of release yet because the current flagships get priority.

You better be right you faggot. I'm still on the plan for this fucking S5. Fuck Verizon
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>>51389730
Not the OP but you must be fun at parties if all it takes to trigger you is one innocent mistake.
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>>51390499
Flagships should have normal size, compact size, and phablet size categories.


Compact size:
Z5c and Z3c

Normal size:
S6 and Xperia Z5

Phablet size:
V10, Z5p, Note5(S6 edge+ for europe)
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>>51390584

I have this phone but this guy doesn't represent me
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>>51390618
Well considering a few days after that leaked document with that timeline surfaced a T-mobile note5 user managed to accidentally update to 6.0 early. So they already have a 6.0 build ready for the Note5 which means that December 2015 date on that timeline looks like it will be accurate, and if that's accurate, then I expect everything else on that list to get 6.0 at some point as well, though most will be early/mid 2016
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>>51390651
how about budget phones?

are redmi, k3 note, alcatel idol 3 decent enough to make it to that list?
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>>51390544
>he wasted $200 on a Moto G
>could have got the 2GB ZF2 for the same price
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>>51390651

How far should we split this down though?

Some of those phones aren't available worldwide, and the OP can't be everything.

There is a lot of Samsung hate as well
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>>51390584
Isn't its screen too big to be considered flagship level?
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>>51390584
No removable battery, expandable storage or lanyard hole/loop.
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>>51390685
>There is a lot of Samsung hate as well
That's because you're on /g/ though, half these autists had S3's in highschool/college and since they were forced to use shitty touchwizz back then, they have never forgiven samsung. The hate spreads even to this day, despite the fact touchwizz is nothing like what it was back then.


The other part of the hate comes from the fact "normies" tend to buy samsung, so /g/ automatically has to hate on them.


You do bring up a valid point, but having a single /g/ approved flagship as it stands now just makes the thread seem like an LG shilling thread. The OP should try to show the least amount of bias as possible.
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>>51390692
no, because it literally is Samsung's flagship, the Note series has always been superior to Galaxy
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>>51390584
That's not the Nexus 6P.
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>>51388712
Alcatel one touch idol 3. Using that phone now. 249$. Unbeatable
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>>51388580
just set up my dad's s6 edge for him, what a great phone (burns through the battery pretty quickly though)
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>>51390670
agreed, it's an amazing phone, but I wont pretend like the phone offers everything for everyone, because it doesn't.


that being said, if you can live with the downside of no expandable storage, and no removable battery, it's basically the most powerful android phone you can buy at the moment.
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>>51390706
>You do bring up a valid point, but having a single /g/ approved flagship as it stands now just makes the thread seem like an LG shilling thread. The OP should try to show the least amount of bias as possible.


Considering how many fuckers have bought this phone, and how good it is, I don't really see how it's not.

Myself and the one other guy starting these threads are by no means shills.

If there is a worthy /g/ flagship, then we will put it up there. The recently shilled phones just means that people are talking about them a lot, so they're good as well.

>>51390721
Fuck off chinkshit.
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>>51390680

>ZF2
>settling for inferior x86 archtecture

It's like it was God's plan to you be a C UCK
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>>51390731
Check out the Incipio offGRID case if he doesn't mind a slightly bulkier phone.

>>51390677
If we were to do a budget phone category that could be its own thread to be honest, there are a lot of chink phones to sort through for that.
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>>51390584
Is it running AOSP?
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>>51390741
>Considering how many fuckers have bought this phone, and how good it is, I don't really see how it's not.
lol wut, we were just talking about this a few days ago, and I have only seen 2 or 3 anons posting with a V10, it is NOT hitting like a storm or anything, i dont think its sales figures are particularly great either.
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>>51390744
>X86
>inferior

ARMfag pls, you will never be as efficient as X86
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>>51390680

That battery life desu senpai.
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>>51390751
Most of which don't necessarily work everywhere

Most of which have weird bloated crap and almost no XDA support

If we can find phones that are actually unlocked, work on US/UK/Europe carriers, and have some XDA support, then fine, we can list them potentially.

However, if they have no roots commonly available, they can fuck off.

>>51390761
I don't see any other anons posting their recent purchases, and it seems to be the best phone in that market segment at the time.

I'm partial to the Note 5, however.

>ARMfag pls, you will never be as efficient as X86

ARM is a lot more efficient for the battery usage.
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>>51390751
>there are a lot of chink phones to sort through for that.

I agree, but not all the chink phones are easy to get or they ship worldwide.

I named a few that I know I could get, and nowadays you get decent specs on a nice price point.

You could argue that you could also get a oneplusone for example but those are cheap but hard to get because of the retarded invitation system and they don't ship worldwide.

I don't see why we couldn't make a list along the flagship you suggested and add it to the OP
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>>51388750
Why don't you ask those questions before you buy the phone you faggot consumerist imbecile
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>>51390815
seriously who buys something and THEN thinks, hmmm do i actually want this?
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>>51390828

The average consumer.
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>>51390784
>I'm partial to the Note 5, however.
me too
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I'm just waiting for all the post purchase rationalizations of the fags that didn't wait for SD820.
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>>51390851
Problem is it is far too fucking expensive.

840 bucks? Seriously? It's not worth that. It just is not.

The only way to get it cheap is through Verizon and Best Buy or Costco right now, where with a 2 year agreement you can get it for 50-150 bucks.
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>>51390751
thanks for that

has anyone got a oneplus x yet?
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>>51390860
>fags that didn't wait for SD820
i mean, I bought my phone in august, should I have waited the 5-6 months from august until january/feb?

And if ~6 months is a reasonable amount of time to wait, then once SD820 is out, you could make an argument to wait for the next big SoC as well.

Just get whatever is the best when you need to upgrade and you'll be fine, unless you're literally 3-4 weeks or less from the launch of something new.
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>>51390860

SD820 is probably not going to be much better. It's still an 800 series chip.

SD really screwed the pooch this year. I'm surprise we're not seeing any Exynos phones really, is that because Samsung isn't selling them?
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>>51390875
Pretty sure they are on ebay for around $550-650 now.

But I agree it's still pretty pricey. But if price isn't an issue, its a fantastic phone.
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>>51390899
they are, s6 and edge are exynos and some variants of the note 4 are as well
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>>51390670
>>51390737
Samshit shills pls go.
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>>51390885
The point is you bought like a 30% upgrade over the 2013. Unless it's Exynos.
>>51390899
New Kryo cores, man.
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>>51390772
>this shit meme again
if you turn the location off and lower the brightness of the screen it will hold a charge better, it has near 8 hours screen-on time FFS, and I'm talking about the lower clicked Z3560 model with 2GB RAM
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>>51390909
For what, a version that won't work on US carriers?
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>>51390899
>SD820 is probably not going to be much better
Benchmarks have already started showing up, and it is better than SD810 by a decent bit.


>>51390912
why are you replying to them...the ones who told the ACTUAL samshit shill that he doesn't represent them... like seriously? You're calling the people who called out the shill, shills, are you retarded?


>>51390921
>Unless it's Exynos
note5.
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>>51390899
The single core scores are like 2 times better than 800's.
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>>51390939
If you use a Samsung phone you're automatically part of their shill network. They are stupid enough to pay $700 for Note 5 when the Asus Zenfone eats it for breakfast.
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>>51390939
I've not seen any actual benchmarks, just "oh its better"


>>51390960
Proof? Source? Nothing is out yet proving this.
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>>51390923

>8 hours

The Moto /g/ gets 11 hours - and that's on shit like continuous videos.
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>>51390964
I just looked it up, if you go with a 2 year contract on ATT, Verizon, or Sprint, you can get these things for stupid cheap
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>>51390964
>Zenfone eats it.for breakfast

whoa whoa, I like the ZF2 as well, but the Note 5 fucking obliterates it
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>seriously considering a phone without dev support
Outdated before arrival.
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>>51390978
>paying $200 for SD410
WHAT FUCKING YEAR IS IT?
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>>51390938
Nope, double check for your carrier, but most of the international versions will work with AT&T and Tmobile 4G LTE.

Not sure about verizon, but check the LTE bands supported by the radio in whatever version is being sold on ebay and you can make sure you get the right bands for your network.


>>51390964
>pay $700 for Note 5 when the Asus Zenfone eats it for breakfast.
lolol

no it doesnt.
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>>51390983
But then I checked the fine details, they charge you a $40 access charge per month on ATT if you do that
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>>51391005

SD410 is fine, I'd take that over shit battery life any day.
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>>51390972
Msm8996.
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>>51391013
Or do what I did.

Pay monthly, they charge $25/month for the note5, but that $40/month access charge goes down to $15/month

So $25+$15=$40 the exact same price but with no upfront money paid at all besides $50 for taxes.
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>>51390978
This. There is no reason to buy another budget phone than the moto g.
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>>51391014
>I'll take the phone with the power of a hamster and no Quick Charge tech so I can have a longer battery life
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>cheapphones
How's Oneplus x?
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>>51391032

Not what I'm seeing, it's telling me the phone plus a $25 access charge

I think Verizon is cheaper than this...
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>>51390851
Can you confirm that the Note 5 has a Wolfson DAC?
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>>51390964
>Note 5 when the Asus Zenfone eats it for breakfast.
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I'm looking to get a smart watch to go with my phone. Should I buy now or is it likely that there will be good deals on them with the upcoming BF/CM deals?
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>>51391071
Not sure, but I am looking at my bill for 4 lines right now, 2 note 5s, and S6 active and a Moto G 2nd gen.


Both note 5s are $25/month with a $15 access.

S6 active is $20/month with $15 access

Moto G is $0/month with $40 access.
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>>51390964
>They are stupid enough to pay $700 for Note 5 when the Asus Zenfone eats it for breakfast.

Are you for real?
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You all fucks saying shit. The Zenfone 2 is a piece of crap. It comes with more bloatware than Android. It's hotter than a Fermi GPU. And runs on a shit x86. Note 5 is a objectively better phone.
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>>51391094
Fuck me, they really fuck you on unlocked phones don't they?
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What's up with these delusional Note 5 shills lately? I'll rather endure Zenfone 2's UI than TouzhJizz anytime.
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>>51391066

>power of a hamster

It runs apps (including emulators) and videos fine - what else do you need?
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>>51391101
>samshill
>speaking of bloat
Ouch.
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>>51391094
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>>51391130
>it runs Facebook and calls, what else a sheep could possibly need
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>>51391101
one dipshit said it was better than the Note, but it's not a bad phone for what it is you stupid twat
>>51391130
real-time logs from my can-bus adapter that has very little latency
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>>51391066
>Hurr I like to pay more for things I'll not use.

What do you do with your phone? Do you mine bitcoin? Do you crack WPA2? Do you factorate 2048 bit prime numbers? Do you renderize Pixar movies?

I don't think so. I have a LG Optimus One with a custom Gingerbread ROM and it does all that I need. It's been my fine for the last 5 years. Every two years I swap it's battery for a new one.
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>>51391129
>I'll rather endure Zenfone 2's UI than TouzhJizz anytime
You haven't used modern touchwizz then, seriously anyone still calling it touchjizz simply hasn't touched modern touchwizz on an S6 or Note5.

>>51391142
$28 for a 64GB note5 $15 access, and she has insurance so another $7/month for that.
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>>51391166
Optimus Me*
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>>51391166
>literal poorfag: the post
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>wah power is unnecessary
How's Chrome's scrolling for you, guys? No stuttering? :^)
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>>51391210
>that same Samshill
>that same "hurr you haven't used Touchwiz recently" bullshit

I've heard this story too many times before
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>>51391210

Touchwiz is still shit.

However, Samsung's popularity comes with the benefit of a large dev support base.
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>>51391233
>No stuttering?
I gotta admit, this was one of the biggest things I really liked about getting my Note5, web browsing went from an occasional thing that was laggy on any heavier sites with lots of images or shit, to now I'd say the web browsing is on par with a laptop, its smooth, everything loads up quick and doesnt stutter.
9/10


>>51391243
and yet you're the one who still hasn't used it and is still perpetuating a meme based off their experience literally years ago. The fact you still think it's relevant is actually shocking.
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>>51391214

We were talking about $200 phones, so ye.
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You know the phone is bloated when the stock ROM image is over 500mb.
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>>51391243
Eh, touchwiz has improved a lot over the years. I used to test phones at work (I worked on the FIOS streaming service for Verizon, that shit is awful never use it) and touchwiz on the 2015 phones is certainly a lot lighter and less ugly. It looks almost stock now.

There's a reason for it. It was an agreement between Google and Samsung in order for Google to sell off Motorola, that Samsung had to bring their phones closer to stock Android.
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What do you think m8s, shell out a bit more money for z3 or go for a 64bit soc with mi4c
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Why is samsung popular anyway?

>shit modded ui c uckjizz
>dumps 10000 devices into the market every year
>never updates anything below $350

And yet these fuckers have a 28% market share. How?
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>>51391314
idiots and marketing, no seriously
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>>51391314

Because they make phones with often the best specs and cameras

They also tend to have the best damn displays of any Android phones

Also, touchwiz has improved greatly on the most recent generation of phones, not that most people cared if they got to that market share

Also, marketing
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>>51391314
>never updates anything below $350
wut?
look at
>>51390375

Galaxy A3, A5, etc, are on the list for getting 6.0 update, and guess what, they cost $200-250
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>>51391291
if you want Battery life, the BLU Studio Energy 2 has like a 4000mAH battery and lasts a couple of days and has a better SoC
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>>51391314
Because they have the best hardware, and while touchwizz in the past has been terrible, its actually not that bad lately. It's fairly close to stock and the features it adds are good enough where I wouldnt install a different ROM.

Also, a lot of the market share is still from back in the S2/S3 days when they were seen as the only android manufacturer that could stand up to apple (at least amongst normies).
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>>51390361
Yea sorry i meant 5.1.1
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Anybody here know any cases for the Samsung Galaxy S6 phones or Note 5 in where I can hang/tie around a lanyard or cell phone charm?
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>>51391406
check Underbody. They have great cases.
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>>51391406
>http://www.tridentcase.com/shop-products/samsung-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/aegis-case-for-samsung-galaxy-s6.aspx

>http://www.tridentcase.com/shop-products/aegis-series/aegis-pro-case-samsung-galaxy-note-5.aspx
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>>51391391
wait, the Idol 3 won't get any version updates? that fucking blows
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>>51390361
I've experienced it recently.

I live in a city of about 300k people, and it's the only city of this size within hours.

ATT doesn't have signal for shit here. Verizon has 4g signal that is strong the entire drive from here to all the other major cities within a few hours drive.

Where we are hopefully moving this summer, the signal is fine on both. However, if you go outside the city to go hiking, or visit the cute old west towns that dot the highways, ATT shits itself, while Verizon retains 4G LTE fucking everywhere.

ATT can fuck themselves in the ass.
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>>51391536
>out West
yeah I've heard that, but it's the only provider that gives consistent LTE in the Shenandoah Valley which is why I prefer it
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Anyone with a Note 5 able to tell me the exact weight in grams of the stylus? I swear there is no info about this on the internet.
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>>51391536
>I live in a city of about 300k people, and it's the only city of this size within hours.
Im sorry you live in the middle of nowhere.


The suburb of the city I live near is almost 150k people. The city itself is over 1M.

No problems at all with AT&T or verizon, ever.
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>>51391437
Got a site? Can't really find them atm.

>>51391445
Looks a bit bulky for my taste, got one that's a bit "slimmer?"

Oh and how's this?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T6RRXIU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=18S5THDOACIBT&coliid=IU8J1V99G4IYV&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
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>>51391570
it is very lightweight. Lighter than you'd think because it's hollow plastic (interior has some microelectronics but not much).

I can't give you an exact weight because I lost my scale a few month back, but i'd estimate in the 3-8 gram range.
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>>51391467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/confirmed-alcatel-one-touch-idol-3-t3214155
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>>51391579
>Looks a bit bulky for my taste, got one that's a bit "slimmer?"
no idea, the only slim cases I know dont have lanyard loops.
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>>51391576
enjoy your higher suicide rates fagget
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>>51391647
Why wouldnt I? Normies killing themselves cause of their retarded "feelings"? Fucking hilarious.
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>>51391576
Even back when I lived in KC, Verizon had better coverage on the outskirts of the metro.

I do too many outdoor activities to not have coverage. I am one of those that doesn't mind having some internet while I go enjoy nature. I also like having the ability to know of something bad happened with a friend or relative.

I've been pricing things out, right now ATT is more expensive and has worse coverage than Verizon. Fuck ATT.
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>>51391722
that's why you go prepaid if you go GSM you moron, $45 for 5 GB isn't perfect for me
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>>51391743
I had a roommate who cycled through prepaid companies a few years ago.

It was pretty funny how bad the coverage was.
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>>51391755
>a few years ago
and what were their names? what network were they using? Pre-paids now offer you selection of networks to use, and there's no differences in speed or coverage, only specific features like call forwarding and conferencing calling and shit like that
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>>51391010
>dual battery indicators

why?
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What's the consensus on the z5 premium? I'll probably be waiting for a price drop though.
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>>51388580
yo fags, anyone here already had the chance to test the OPX? yay or nay?
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>>51391855
Tested your mums pussy last night
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I have never bought a smartphone before. Do android devices have a much larger selection of apps than the microsoft devices?
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Poorfag here. Moto G on Virgin Mobile or Nexus 6 on Project Fi.
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>>51391899
yes, by a factor of 50
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>>51391899
More fart apps sure
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Is there any way I can force update my G3 to lollipop? Its stuck on 4.4.2 and fails to update using both LG PC Suite and the update center. Can I flash a lollipop ROM on it somehow?
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>>51391904
Nexus 6P on Fi, how is this a question?
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>>51391899
Yes
Generally speaking, if someone makes an app, it comes to Android and iPhone. WP is an way waaay far away afterthought.
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>>51391930
It should be updated to 5.0.2 over the air, try to flash it back to stock and re-run it through all the OTA updates again.
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>>51391899
Yeah, Android has more apps than anyone else
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>>51391911
>>51391949
Thanks. I thought it might be an issue. Was looking at the nokia lumia 640 but will likely steer clear of windows phones if this is the case.
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>>51391971
This could change soon if windows 10 on mobile turns into something fantastic, but as it stands right this minute, windows phone is dead on app support more or less.
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>>51391826
The only difference is the over exagerated placebo 4k that only eats battery. Z5 is better.

>price drop

look at the z3's price.
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>>51391984
>if ifs and buts were candy and nuts

too bad that situation will never change
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>>51391984
What hurts Windows 10 phone is that they're not even available on Verizon/Sprint. You gotta be on all the networks in the US if you're going to attract enough users to get app dev going.
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>>51392007
no, the 635, HTC 8X and Samsung ATIV-S are on sprint
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>>51391964
I've never tinkered with it in any way. Its just the way it was when I bought it. Updating through OTA gives "Phone not registered yet" error. AFAICG, this error has no solution. Even LG doesn't know how to fix it.

I was thinking of rooting and then flash some factory lollipop ROM. Is such a thing possible?
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Let's say the moto G is too expensive for me. Is the Moto E a good alternative?
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>>51392121
won't get updates past 5.1.1
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>>51392115
If you are flashing the phone, just flash the factory image and try to update through normal methods.


If you want you can install custom roms and shit, but they tend to fuck with the camera or other things so I stick with stock ROMS for the most part. I'm not in high school anymore and I really dont care to tinker as much with my phone as I used to.
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>>51392155
Does that matter much?
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>>51392167
for security like StageFright 2.0, yes
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>>51392180
I see, thanks.
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>>51391886
Nice. Now is the opx worth it or na?
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>>51392155
How do I tell whether something will get updates past this point or not?
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>>51392163
Its already on a factory image. I have never flashed, rooted or done anything.
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>>51392194
Just save up for the Moto G. Guaranteed Android M and probably N and crazy battery life that'll only increase after Android M.
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>>51392212
you have to research it
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>>51392216
What model is your G3
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>>51392121
expensive? where are you?
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So apparently /g/ doesn't like Samsung Galaxy phones in general because of Touchwizz and bloat but didn't they get better as of late?
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>>51392253
D855 3GB RAM
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>>51392216
...did I ever say it wasn't?

Reflash your fucking phone you literal shit for brains ass-faggot.

Seriously, i have said it two or three times now.

Flash a stock fucking image, or shut the fuck up and figure it out yourself.


You're too fucking stupid to fix it yourself, but then you come back with
>b-b-uh im already on a stock image

look dumbass, you're the idiot here, just reflash your fucking phone.
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>>51392262
England. I want something fairly close to the 100 mark.
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OPT has arrived, I love it to be honest, not sure how but it feels snappier than my old S6 Edge, probably because no touchjizz. I do miss that amoled display though
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>>51392263
Touchwiz has gotten better, and the phones have a lot of nice features. They're good phones, but kinda OP in my opinion. Try one and see if you like it.
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>>51392273
>100
£100
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Should I just get used to not having a microsd option and a removable battery?
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>>51392272
How do I reflash a factory image?
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>>51392414
More and more phones are going that way, unfortunately.

>>51392432
You need to go to XDA and search for this shit, don't just take the word of some random anon on here.
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>>51392414
I can understand no removable battery because of the premium build quality and shit but why do companies not put SD cards in, you can easily just put the card slot in the sim tray, is it so people dont just buy the smallest memory size and upgrade it themselves
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>>51392446
Thing is that back glass and unibody metal isn't premium.

We have to put an end to this shit.

What I want is a phone with a rigid metal frame, and a strong rubberized whatever back. Those are the toughest phones.

If anything, we should be going to metal covering plastic for durable phones.


Also, SD card slots shouldn't be necessary. NAND flash is so cheap, every phone should have 64-128 GB without costing a fucking fortune to get more storage.
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>>51392446
>mSD cards can fail
>mSD readers can fail
>eMMC memory is cheap and they can charge a premium for extra storage
>Android versions were not compatible
>forced cloud migration

pick your poison, I've heard them all from various reps
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>>51392446
I didn't mind the plastic because I understood I was compromising style for more functionality. I thought that was android's appeal.
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Don't know whether to get a Asus Zenfone 2 4gb or a One Plus X.
I can also get a moto X play butt....

Anyone recommend any of them?
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>>51392472
Forced cloud migration. It cuts down on piracy.
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>>51392472
This cloud shit can fuck off. I use cloud for backing up between computer backups, that's it.

Fuck storing my music in the cloud.
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How much space does AT&T bloatware take up?
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>>51392472
Fubar. Its forced cloud migration. Its a win win for them.
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>>51392471
This. There is no reason why a company can not make a durable phone. Their jewish values are what is keeping us from having phones that never break just by a drop on the ground.
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>>51392702
depends entirely on the device. Its not like they have a set list of bloat ware and its identical across the board. It changes for every single phone.
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>>51388580
Yurofags should take a look at bq aquaris x5 if you want a budget phone. Even ships with cyanogenmod (or Android, your choice)
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>>51392691
Its not YOUR music man. Even if you paid for it, atleast not according to them. Its a subscription for you. Don't put it on your phone.
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>>51392702
Some 200mb on my S4

>>51392746
What? It's my music, I have copies of it on multiple hard drives and devices going back years. Fuck their shit.
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>>51392614
I recommend the ZF2 if in the states due to know issues picking up LTE bands
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Anyone have any experience with the LG G4? It seems like the best new phone with expandable memory, but every LG I've messed with has a terrible and dated-feeling touch screen.
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>>51392815
>best new phone with expandable memory
>LG G4

that's not how you spell Moto X Pure
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>>51392860
but what if I'm not poor?
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>>51392860
>that's not how you spell Moto X Pure

Did you perhaps mean LG V10?
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>>51392870
doesn't matter, Moto X Pure

>>51392880
>LG V10
that's still not how you spell Moto X Pure
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>>51392904
Pure is a strong contended based on price and front facing speakers, but other than that - the LG V10 is superior.
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LG G4 or Sony Z5C?
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>>51392761
How are you going to load it all onto your phone without microsd? You'll pay a fortune for 128gb?
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>>51392904
>lenovo

yeah i'll fucking pass

you know they fired like 2/3rds of the android team in the past few months right?

Dont expect it to have good support going forward, and I expect updates will be slow in coming as well from now on since their android team is basically a shadow of its former self.
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>>51392926
I plug into my fucking computer, idiot

I also don't have so much music that I keep in rotation at one time that I need 128GB of storage. I'd only need that for pirated movies
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>>51392931
they will still have a damn good dev community

>>51392919
>muh 2 screens
the V10 is trash
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>>51392956
>>muh 2 screens
its basically a notification bar, its not like it actually gets in the way.

>>51392956
>they will still have a damn good dev community
...lol? You're joking right?
Samsung gets shit because of no updates meme, but moto gets a pass? Fuck off you obvious shill.

That or you bought moto yourself and are trying to rationalize your purchase.
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>>51392956
You're not going to find people here agreeing that the V10 is trash. It isn't trash.
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>>51388580
looks like a ricochet.
would have gone through if dead on.
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>>51392942
That's not what I meant. I was implying that phone manufacturers are deliberately eliminating the microsd option to force customers to purchase their most expensive phone (most storage).
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>>51392986
it's a worthless extra screen that's essentially a side bar laid horizontally on top, utterly stupid and pointless and will cause issues with software updates

and no, I don't own a Moto but from the reviews it definitely checks all the boxes for the best all around phone

>>51392991
then /g/ is completely pleb for the reasons posted above
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>>51393040
>will cause issues with software updates
lol what?
How?

Are you seriously being this retarded?

Hell im 90% sure you can disable the 2nd screen if you are this fucking autistic.
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>>51393096
android updates will take longer because they have to take the second screen into consideration and has to be written into the update as well, bow are YOU this retarded? did you think nothing would have to be done to deal with the second piece of display hardware?
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>>51393118
They already have the 2nd screen software written, what the fuck do you think an update is going to do? The notification screen isnt part of stock android, so a stock android update shouldnt change a god damn thing about it.

It will require zero extra work to update, unless LG wants to specifically update the features of the 2nd screen, but that again is not something that will cause major delays.


That's like saying the Spen on the Note5 is going to cause the note5 updates to be supppper slow since no other android device uses a stylus. Guess what though, the note5 is getting 6.0 in december, sooner than almost every other android phone.
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>>51393118
Moto X Pure might not ever get updates thanks to Lenovo firing most of the Android team at Motorola Mobility

>>51393040
You're a fucking pleb because you don't understand that the V10 is objectively a better device

Better screen, better battery, more powerful, can replace battery easily, will get updates (LG has a good track record) oh and it has a fingerprint reader.

I like the Pure, but the only thing it is better at is having front facing stereo speakers
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I would love to receive an alert whenever my Android phone successfully connects to a WiFi network.

Is there an app, or feature, or something which would allow the phone to make a noise, or light up whenever this happens?
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I got a refurbished, unlocked z2 for 269 euros, was it a good deal?
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>>51392263
The s6 series is literally better than iphone unless you use your phone for carrying 2tb of media. Im just waiting for a official root, cyanogenmod maybe and whatever
>>
Guy I can upgrade next week. Been leaning towards one of the S6 series but I'm getting pretty tempted by the Z5 and 6P too.

How bad is the RAM management on the S6?
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>>51393290
Cyanogen already announced they will never support an Exynos SoC because of lack of any support from Samsung when it comes to firmware and shit for the camera, spen, etc.


And I think its a few thousand dollar bounty for anyone who can get a successful permanent root that doesnt trigger Knox.
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I download large files using Firefox for Android. But whenever the screen turns out automatically, or when I turn it off, the download stops.
Is there some way to tell the browser to keep downloading even when the display is turned off?
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>noob Android question
Explain to me simply but in full what exactly determines how fast an app loads up.
CPU+RAM in conjunction?
The more code in the executable, the more processes that need to happen?

For example, it sometimes takes my default keyboard up to two full seconds to appear when writing text.
I want it to open as close to instantaneously as possible - no loading.
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>>51393310
>ow bad is the RAM management on the S6?

Was fixed with updates from what I heard

It wasn't that TouchWiz was doing some lag thing, it was that Samsung programmed the ram management to be very aggressive
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What websites exist for one to find good wallpapers for smartphones?

The sites recommended in most infographs are crap. /wg/ has a limited amount.
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>>51393394
yeah and it's technically still there, but you will never notice it outside of simulated environments (basically you can MAKE it happen, but its hard to actually have happen in real world use)
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>>51393431
Check out the tapet app, it produces simple backgrounds for you and has a lot of other features

>>51393448
I mean, i can do that on any phone though
>>
I'm trying to decide between the S6 and 6S at the moment. Even though I mainly use my phone for web browsing I can't help but think the freedom the S6 gives like putting all my own movies and shit without iTunes syncing would be good.

Can someone decide for my retarded self?
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>>51390697
lanyard hole? seriously are you a teenage asian girl?
>>
>>51393464
I think you solved it already

Android means freedom

BTW, it's cheaper to get a Note 5 at best Buy right now if you are in the US
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>>51393314
The root will happen eventually, the phone is relatively new.
Marshmellow is coming to the s6 edge +, others aswell. That might change the tables a little
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>>51393485
Unfortunately I'm in Yurop, was thinking of going with the S6 edge+ tbqh. Not sure how I'll feel about the whole edge thing after a month of using it though.
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>>51393519
S6 already has a root

>>51393526
The edge thing feels like a great way to lower your battery life in my oipnion
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>>51393314
S6 and s6 edge already have one touch root that doesn't trigger knox doofus
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>>51393464
S6 edge + if you like to watch movies
S6(edge) otherwise, you wont regret it.
Former iPhone user recently switching to s6edge+
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>>51393482
Young adult actually kek
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>>51393544
The edge + comes with a much larger battery, the battery time on this is amazing while browsing, even playing "demanding" games for long times it just keeps going imo, and that super fast charging
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>>51393526
Fellow yurop here, Note 4 is still fucking great. I switched from iPhone after my 4S fucked up one too many times (the 4 was a great phone, mind), got an S4 then upgraded a few months ago. Literally the only problem the Note 4 has is that it's difficult to find wallpapers for it. I fucking love it.
>>
>>51393557
only on certain variants, fuck head
>>
Note 5 still can't be rooted with carrier versions in the US


Fuck this knox shit, Samsung is becoming such a terrible company with this crap

>>51393607
Everything I googled showed all variants
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>>51393559
>S6 edge + if you like to watch movies

I would've thought the edge would be a pain in the dick for movies, the whole curve thing. Especially if you're watching shit with subtitles.

>>51393599
Can we not get the Note 5 online somewhere? Not sure if the imported ones would work on our bands.
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>>51393637
>Everything I googled showed all variants
i'm almost 100% sure if you're on AT&T or Verizon S6 or S6 edge and you are on 5.1.1 it will trip Knox. I think if it was before 5.1.1 you could still do it, but after that it trips knox.
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>>51393641
Not at all, of course they thought of that. It is after all a phablet.
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>>51393658
Ah that's true, and I bet those phones ship with 5.1.1

Looks like I'm never buying a Samsung device again.

Time to look other devices now...

I just want root, I don't even care about bootloaders and shit.
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>>51393641
>Can we not get the Note 5 online somewhere? Not sure if the imported ones would work on our bands.
International versions work fine, costs around $600-700 on ebay, plus whatever your customs will charge you, which will end up probably another $100 or $200.
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>>51393678
>I just want root
Why if I might ask?

I haven't rooted an android phone since highschool back in 2011.
>>
Should I buy a nexus 9 tablet?
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>>51393641
Maybe? US phones are all kinds of retarded with their locked bootloaders and other weird shit. I'm assuming there is not an international version of the Note 4, but there might be an unlocked one you could use over here. I'd be very careful with importing a foreign phone, so do your research. You'll get shagged sideways over import tax as well, m8. Honestly you sound settled on the S6, it still offers the usual freedom Android offers but you are lacking the SD slot.
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>>51393721
>I'm assuming there is not an international version of the Note 4, but there might be an unlocked one you could use over here
there are international versions of both the Note4 and Note5.
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>>51393721
I'm not too bothered about the SD slot thing, though I do like to load up a few Jap cartoons when I have to travel.

I'll just get the higher capacity phone I guess.
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>>51393697
Adaway, debloating carrier crap
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>>51393740
And most US carriers charge you more per month for your line access charge if you bring in an unlocked phone
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>>51393778
You can debloat the S6 and note5 without root.

I block ad-servers at the network level, so if im connected to my wifi network there are no ads anyway.
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>>51393792
Oh wow is that so?

Sorry Xperia 5 Premium, looks like I'm getting an S6 Edge + or Note 5 with 128 GB internal storage instead...
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>>51393806
>S6 Edge + or Note 5 with 128 GB internal storage instead
lol anon, you're shit out of luck there.

Only the S6 comes in a 128GB version, the S6 edge+ and note5 never released in a larger than 64GB capacity.


That being said, I have a 64GB note5 and have been using it for 3 months and have 41GB free. So personally not an issue for me.
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>>51393806
On Verizon it's 20 a month if you're buying a phone from them on the per month payment plane

40 for your line access charge per month if it's an unlocked/payed off phone
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>>51393795
Fuck me evidently there is now something called adguard that serves as a fucking awesome adblocking app without root
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>>51393891
Yeah, once most of the shit I was using root for started becoming more main stream and available through normal apps without root I stopped rooting my phones, I never even bothered to root my LG G2 and now i have upgraded to something else entirely, I spent 2 whole years with the G2 and never once thought I needed to root it to do something.
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>>51393920
Yeah if this ad blocking came become better without rooting, I won't bother to root. Most modern phones allow you to debloat pretty easily as well, well, at least Samsung does.
>>
Nexus 6 or 5X? Don't want no overpriced bendable ching chong phone so 6P is out of the question.
>>
>>51393997
6
>>
LG G3 VS Nexus 5X?

Canada here, so its $410 versus $499 for the 16GB Nexus
>>
sub 250€ phone?
> OnePlus One 64gb
> iPhone 5c 16 gb (can get it new for 200)
> Moto G 3rd gen
> your suggestion
priorities: good camera
storage
battery life
>>
>>51393721
But what's the advantage of the S6 over the Z5? As far as I can see the Z5 has better speakers, is waterproof, can take SD cards, better battery. The list goes on.
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>>51394019
5x
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>>51394052
Higher resolution screen, more powerful SoC, more RAM, Faster RAM, faster internal storage, wireless charging and wireless fast charging.


Also, if you're on AT&T, the S6 active adds water and dust proofing.

And you can also get the Incipio OffGRID case which adds extra battery life, and an mSD card slot for more storage.
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>>51394035
The moto g X1550 is the phone for you.
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>>51388580
>dat pic
lmao enjoy your lack of sd cards to easily retreive your data in the case of catastrophe, fags.
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>>51394121
I guess really it comes down to whichever feels best in your hand. I'm gonna ask for a go on both in a shop and see which one I like the feel of the best.
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>>51394070
May I ask why?
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>>51394121
>more RAM
Was thinking of the S6 edge+ when I put that, the S6 and Z5 both have 3GB of RAM, the S6 edge+ has 4GB. However, the S6 RAM is LPDDR4 instead of the Z5 which uses LPDDR3.
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>>51394145
Incipio offGRID case adds an mSD slot, or you can do USB OTG and get a mSD card reader or flash drive or external hard drive, or any other of a number of solutions to this problem.
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Reminder that Samsung phones have always been superior in every single generation, and this is no exception. The S6 is literally the fastest android phone yet, only to be superseded by the S6edge+ and Note 5. It has tons of features too, like private mode, increased touchscreen sensitivity, real-time kernel protection so niggers can't flash your phone when it's stolen, multi-windows, the most accurate and beautiful screen you can get, and a superb camera which is the best after the Z5 (by an insignificant margin). It also has the fastest i/o and the fastest charging speeds (behind the edge+, which incidentally also has a bigger battery). This is hands down a clear-cut case of technological superiority only available to Samsung flagship users. The Note 5 is by far the best, fastest, most complete smartphone to date in the history of cellphones and mankind.
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>>51394179
it might be copy pasta that gets posted every few days, but it is still true.
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>>51394179
Leave shill
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>>51394157
But Samsung have fucked with the memory management so that 4GB of RAM isn't fully utilised anyway. For the money you'd be better off getting a Nexus 6P over either.
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>>51394177
>keeping the usb port active constantly
drains battery and presents a bother when you actually need to use the usb port like say for charging or transfering files or attaching something else via usbotg. Wouldn't bother.
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>>51394218
They patched that. You could patch that yourself with tinkering the prop file or not being an idiot and keeping 10+ active tasks.
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>>51394218
That was fixed from what I hear
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>>51394218
I find the fingerprint sensor placement a bit retarded. Otherwise it's pretty solid.
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>>51394225
The incipio offGRID case, again it has micro USB passthrough so it can charge while it's being used.

>>51394218
not true at all, it was discussed earlier in the thread if you care to go find it, but the RAM management problem is overblown as fuck.
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>>51394263
really though, cases? the s6 is the only samsung phone that actually looks very nice.rather not.

eh, maybe they'll learn from their nose-diving profits and market share in their most profitable markets and maybe come up with an active or some alternate version of their phones, which include sd slots. seriously, it's a deal breaker.
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What should i buy under €350?
I'd like:
>1080p
>battery
>storage
>at least 2gb ram
>marshmallow
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>>51394305
>their nose-diving profits
their smartphone devision just posted their first quarter with profits in several quarters...so unlikely considering they are only just now starting to make money after 18 months or more of being in the red.


This is just another example of how just because you are technologically competent, doesn't mean you know fuck all about marketing and business. Samsung is doing just fine the way they are, and you could even argue the S6 and note5 are the reasons why they are making money again.
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FYI for one of the two maintainers of /spg/ this thread is at the bump limit.
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>>51394151
Unless you can get a G4 for that price
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>>51389730
dude...
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