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Hof am I supposed to charge my phone now? Cheer me up /g/,

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Hof am I supposed to charge my phone now?

Cheer me up /g/, I need a tech-gore thread
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Them superior plugs
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>>47484923
what retarded third-world-country socket is this?
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>>47484923
turn off the fuse for that side of the house and just yank out the stuck part

obviously test the socket for current with a voltage meter before you go sticking hands on it
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>>47484970
>turn of the fuse
Why? I could just use that fork, no?
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Just plug the usb cable directly into the wall, voltage conversion are for pussies anyways
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>>47484993
Make sure to wet your hands first for maximum fork grip.
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>>47484993
RIP in pieces OP
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Jokes apart, the other side fell off and it's wet inside. How the fuck can this happen?
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>>47484993
lol it wont kill you anyway but it wont feel very nice

actually if its 220 it might
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>>47485034
>Jokes apart
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What kind of China-charger did you buy, OP?
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>>47485043
China seems to be correct
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>>47484942
br
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>>47485034
Looking at this pic, your charger looks like garbage from china. Get an original one if you dont want this to happen again.
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>>47484970
That's only 110 right? Just pull it out with a pair of rubber grip pliers. Or ordinary pliers wrapped in electrical tape. Or even on most hard floors, you can get away with just your bare hands and some slight tingling (Note: I really don't recommend this, even though I've done it before.) Even standing on a rubber door mat if you want to be paranoid.

Also, the fact the casing cracked like that points to bad juju - brittle, brown plastic = overheating and possible fire risk. It's probably for the best it died now.
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>>47485089
it's 220.
I'm trying to disassemble it now
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>>47485054
>Switzerland
Africa tier
from Norway with love
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>>47485079

if he is infact from switzerland, the chink chargers are 3-4chf whereas they original ones are 45-50chf.
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>>47484993
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>>47485138
now you know where you pay that 40 chf for.
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>>47485138
actually I got it from based cheapland Germany for 1.50 Eur :^)
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>>47485127

I know a Norwegian, all that Aquavit is making you have delusions of grandeur.

Not enough sunlight is making you lot think paying through the nose for food that doesn't taste of frozen ass makes you superior or something, also, Aquavit is fucking vile and you fuckers should be ashamed of it.

>>47485154
Living is basel is awesome sometimes, can shop in cheapass germany or fancy france for nice food.

Furthermore, everyone else in the Nordic countries thinks you're all weirdos who fuck reindeer for something to do.
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>>47484993
Should be safe if you time it right. 50 times a second there's 0Volt on that baby.
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>>47485170
I'm actually not Norwegian, just wanted to make the stupid joke since Norway has overtaken Switzerland in HDI and stuff
But it indeed is amazing how you can live in a rich country and abuse cheap Germans for your stuff, I basically do the same
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>>47485127
Actually the raw amount of money may be higher in norway, but the purchasing power is higher in Switzerland because of Germany / Austria / Italy and France being so accessible for everywhere in the country.
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>>47485125
Eh, even 220 should be ok as long as you aren't grounded. Flipping the breaker is the safest option though, but if that's not an option, rubber doormat or similar (lid from a storage box, etc etc) or stand on a (wooden) chair. Or a chair ON a plastic mat. Whatever. Key point is to stick as much resistance between you and any potential grounds as possible.

Honestly though, you can probably just do it in some decent rubber soled shoes. In my case, I work with HV regularly (where I'd never even dream of touching it without a breaker), and have some /very/ well insulated work boots that are perfect for the job.

It's definitely worth pointing out, if you didn't know, and for those in the thread that aren't swiss, that that is the Phase line. The left is Neutral, bottom is Ground. If this was the ground (or even the neutral) we wouldn't even need to have this discussion.
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>>47485195
>I basically do the same
Signaporefag detected?
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>>47485222
nah Netherlands, some 30 km from the border. Unlimited cheap booze, food, hardware (from Ebay.de) and fuel
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>>47485212
>neutral wire
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>>47485212
>It's definitely worth pointing out, if you didn't know, and for those in the thread that aren't swiss, that that is the Phase line. The left is Neutral, bottom is Ground. If this was the ground (or even the neutral) we wouldn't even need to have this discussion.
I thought they'd both have 220 on it. In any case, you can't know what the phase or the neutral is, might as well be flipped because of stupid installation.
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>>47485061
>chink not knowing that frekuens isn't the way frekvens is spelt

Why do this to yourself, swissanon?
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>>47485242
topkek
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>>47485127
Are people still smuggling butter into Norway?
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>>47485250
Nada, the Neutral does carry a current, but should be at the same potential as ground, or at least very close. This is mostly for safety reasons, but is also just a side effect of how the circuit is designed. The "hot"/"phase"/"live" whatever is where all the voltage magic really happens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_and_neutral

The problem is if you have a fault somewhere else down the neutral line, it can then end up also running at line voltage. On older devices, the neutral was treated as a ground connection, which needless to say had the potential for all kinds of horrible shit.

This is why we moved toward three pin plugs - it forces polarity on the connected devices, and it gives a separate guaranteed ground path for anything exposed and conducting.
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>>47485250
>I thought they'd both have 220
First of all, euro is 230V.
Second of all, you need neutral to have potential difference.
+230 and +230 is just 0V, unless the phase is different, which would be retarded.
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>>47485314
I'm not Norwegian, it was a joke but I think the butter shortage is fixed.
I thought there was also countersmuggeling with people smuggling subsidized diapers to Poopland and the Baltics.
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>>47485171
It's 100 times
sine waves hit the X axis twice per period
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>>47484923
What about software gore?
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Just yank it out with pliers, just don't use one that has a conductive handle.
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>>47485331
>First of all, euro is 230V.
Who cares about 10 volt.

>unless the phase is different, which would be retarded.
I thought that was the case.
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>his wiring standards don't mandate per-plug switching
British, Australian and Kiwi are the masterrace.
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>>47485378
>I thought that was the case.
No most of Europe uses a neutral wire and a 230Vrms line. Yes this means you're safe to touch one of the wires but schuko doesn't define which one is neutral.
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>mandated switching
>forced polarisation
>every socket has earth
Bow down to us, Euro and Ameriscum.
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>>47485351
>windows xp

top gore there.
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>>47485406
Guess I actually learned something on 4chan today then.
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>>47485418
Britplugs sound pretty neat. They seem a bit large though.
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>>47485418
>massive plug
>can only fit one way

It's just pure shit.
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>>47485465
>can only fit one way
Nice meme.
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>>47485378
The phase difference is between Voltage/Current, and is just a side effect of physics.

>>47485406
I was under the impression that the 3 pin schukos were defined, but a quick refresher seems to say otherwise. My mistake.

>>47485446
They are large, partly for safety, partly for easy grip, partly because higher voltage, but mostly because they have an inline fuse.

They also fit into sockets much more snugly than american plugs tend to, and they're also at 90deg to the wall so they sit in tighter, which is something I really miss.

This is also a curse because they're worse than lego bricks for standing on in the dark, because they LIKE to lie on their back pins up. (Source: Ex-pat, now in Canada.)

>>47485465
>can only fit one way
If we could have plugs that could go in both ways and still enforce polarization, then that would be fucking fantastic
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>>47485465
Actually the swiss ones are perfect
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Norway sucks so much ass it's unbelieveable. Try telling that to a norwegian tho... He will think you are crazy. Source: I live here.
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>>47485504
That's a thing of beauty. While nothing is plugged into it anyway. After that it's just going to be a clusterfuck.

How do you do wall-warts? Do they just have really long extensions?
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>>47485504
>can't turn off a device without plugging it out
Swiss plug is shit in electric form.
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>>47485504
Meet Schuko.
>comes in straight and 90° plugs
>fits either way
>ground at two sides
>fits other sockets
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>>47485554
>fits either way
Enjoy your lack of polarisation.
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>>47485554
>implying the sad truth isn't that most of my sockets look like this anyway and I can use only one
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>>47484993
Well, it is a SchuKo plug so you wouldn't feel anything.
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>>47485554
As an American I agree that Schuko is god teir.
We really should just cut the crap and use it over here, fuck ours being the NA standard, Canada and Mexico will follow our lead.
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>>47485577
How does that even matter?
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>>47485314

The Swedes sent butter aid to them for free.
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>>47485605
Mostly safety, partly interference issues - see some of the earlier comments in this thread re. neutral / ground behaviour. It's a (simple to implement) second layer of protection if nothing else.

If you have two devices on the same line that are connected oppositely, there's inevitably going to be a level of interferences, whether through odd ground loops, bad wiring, phase interference, whatever. It just opens up a whole can of worms that's simple (plug it in the right way up!) to avoid.

There's also a higher chance that badly wired or poor quality products will end up leaving the neutral wire at odd voltages, which increases the risk of fires, accidental injuries, etc etc etc.

Basically, there's no good reason NOT to use polarity apart from laziness.
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>>47485597
They'll get right on that after they've switched to metric units, a proper date format and a multi-party system of government.
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>GOAT plug
>also the most painful thing you will ever step on
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>>47485642
And here were are having none of those "issues" in the netherlands.
Because it's fucking false
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>>47485418
>every socket has earth
and what is supposed to be special about that?
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>>47485527
there are these adapters which make plugging in adapters possible
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>This thread.
When will Europe be IP banned from 4chan?
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>>47485661
This is actually the most intelligent thing british ever did. You'll have to be super retarded to shock yourself while using this.
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>>47485666
Do the netherlands use split perimiter wiring (like the UK) or the US style "run it all back to the box and let the panel sort it out"?

Polarity is a bigger issue in split perimeter because it (generally) affects a much larger circuit.
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>>47485705
mate it literally doesn't matter which wire is providing the sine wave and which one is neutral unless you specifically designed everything around that
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>>47485686
They should just range ban the entire US instead. /pol/ would disappear overnight.
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>>47485686
Tomorrow
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>>47485605
>>47485642
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>>47485725
It matters quite a bit on older devices where the chassis ground was connected to the neutral. You plug that in backwards, and, well. Yeah.

Granted, you're not likely to see that outside of anything made pre 2000, or on the cheap in china.
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>>47485768
>It matters quite a bit on older devices where the chassis ground was connected to the neutral.
That will never pass CE checks. Ever

>>47485767
Lamps have guidelines to wire them correctly, and have nothing to do with schuko.
Fuck off
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>>47485673
Google 'cheater plugs'.
It's a bit of yank ingenuity.
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>>47485767
>if you touch it you will die.

Pussy detected.

I have touched 230V plenty of times.
Sure it stings, but doesn't make my cry like a little babbie and die.
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>>47484923
Turn off fuse, get needle nose pliers.
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>>47485790
I still reckon I'd find one that isn't switched on both contacts within a day if I tried.
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>>47485800
>Sure it stings
You grazed it, not touched it.
As someone who held a cheappass lamp by it's base while the switch was on(pic related a little the switch was put on the wire seperately and was meant to be operated)
It doesn't sting. You go completely blank.
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>>47485768
>chassis ground was connected to the neutral.

That was (obviously) never done in countries that use Schuko.
Both wires are treated as if they were live.
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>>47485767
So it's literally for retards.
Also not keen on trusting somebody that spells by as buy, and uses "v" for volt.
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>>47485400
>Australian and Kiwi are the masterrace.
Your wiring may be, but not your socket
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>>47485851
>U is literally next to Y
I might just have American fingers.
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>>47485829
No, worst time was when I was fixing the wiring of a sowing machine and my sister decided to plug it in while I was holding the wiring.
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>>47485855
I will admit, it isn't as good as a pom one, but find me one greater (that isn't british) that has reasonable adoption.
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Remember that we also have the french variety of schuko. And it's mostly compatible with normal schuko.
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>>47485661
Too large with no significant advantages over Schuko.

Modern circuit breakers are way faster than the fuses installed in the plugs and I don't see polarization as much of an issue.
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>>47485887
What's the purpose of the unicorn horn?
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>>47485922
Earth.
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>>47485922
It's to stop German plugs invading.
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>>47485154
>>47485206
>>47485235
>tfw I'm not from Continental Europe
I guess a 5 hour drive and Ferry means I'm in Dublin, but it's Dublin
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>>47485790
>That will never pass CE checks. Ever
>Because things that don't pass CE checks never make it into houses via chinaman
>Because people don't do their own home wiring.
>Because people don't splice plugs on their own with aluminum tape and spit.

Yes, you're right, in an ideal world none of this shit would matter. But if you're designing a standard for something as fundamental as this, you NEED to take into account the worst case retards because they exist and you can't escape them. And even then, I'd argue that enforcing polarity takes no effort and still brings a handful of benefits in terms of consistency and interference issues - not something important to home users, but in the case of anything using say, recording equipment, or even milking machinery (no seriously, look it up) it can make a difference. I can only see it becoming more important as we get more and more shit running at higher frequencies that start encountering this kind of noise.

>>47485829
I laid my entire forearm over a PSU PCB that I thought was disconnected from the mains. It felt like being kicked by a brick wall. The bit the suprised me was the adrenaline after surge, I actually had to sit down for a few moments while everything slowed back down again.
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>>47485951
you know 3/4 of the arguments count for britbong plugs as well
that's why we have fucking regulations.
people stick metal shit in contacts, should we also protect those? because fuck those protectors
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>>47485951
>I'd argue that enforcing polarity takes no effort
BUT THEN I CANT INSERT IT BOTH WAYS
WAAA WAA MUH TOO HARD
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>>47485984
I seriously want to know what people are plugging and unplugging so often that this is an issue.

I mean, I get it for something like uUSB or any other plug that is in and out with any regularity. But 95% of things plugged into my wall have been there for weeks, or even months.
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Original content do not steal

The caps in my 2560x1440 monitor's power supply broke. I had a first-gen so it was like 2.5-3.5 years ago or something stupid like that.
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>>47486009
>I seriously want to know what people are plugging and unplugging so often that this is an issue.
laptops
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>>47485054
Switzerland is by definition a third world country. Hint: first, second, and third world are defined by alliances and political concepts, not by wealth.
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>>47484942
I think it's Brazil or something. Brazilians are stupid like this.
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>>47486018
Erm, I was a bit vague there, the power supply broke Friday before last. I just got around to ordering the new power supply last week. The monitor is years old. Still beautiful, when it's, you know, on.
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>>47485931
Yeah, but you already have the things on the side for that. So it's only compatible with old French plugs because the horn blocks everything else, but still has both kinds of ground in it. I don't get it. Unless the horn reclines when you insert a German plug or something.
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>>47486049
Hint: word change meaning over time
third world means poverty
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>>47486064
This is how a modern schuko looks like.
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>>47485061
>madr in china
>indonesian words

Wtf?
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>>47485934
There's a hole in every Schuko plug for exactly that purpose though
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>>47484923
am besten dein cock in die dose halten
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>>47486085
Oh, so you cant plug in these kinds at all?
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>>47485494
>go in and enforce polarization
All it would need to be is 180 degrees rotational symmetric. The five pips side of a six-sided die, with one set of opposite corners indented, would work.
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>>47486069
Word meanings change when alternate usage becomes common enough to be accepted. There is no widespread acceptance of your definition, sorry.
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>>47486134
I don't have 1 device in my house that has that plug.
All of them have the hole
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move aside European fags America coming in. Edison plug master race.
Pic related its me fuckin ur mums.
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all your European plugs suck compared to the Edison
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>>47485951
>you NEED to take into account the worst case retards

Which is what fuses/breakers are for.

Only in Britain did they skimp on this fundamental safety mechanism, so they have to put all sorts of extra safety features into every socket and plug instead.
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>>47484923
>I need a tech-gore thread
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>tech gore thread gets derailed into /pol/ shit
Go back to your pits, underage scum
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>>47486175
Do german plugs work in Russia?
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there are Halloween costumes based on the Edison.
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>>47486158
Upvoted and liked!
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>>47486175
The US plugs barely stick to their sockets.

Also 110V has severe disadvantages compared to 230V.
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>>47486185
is that thermite?
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>>47485751
>Banning access to a website in it's country of operation.
Yeah, because that makes sense...
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>>47486158
One of the first things I noticed when arriving in America was how flimsy the sockets are.
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>>47486211
Smokeless powder.
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>>47486185
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>>47486154
You just made me unplug everything to check if I had anything without the hole, but apparently not. I do remember seeing them around occasionally when I was a kid, though, but they must have been phased out. I guess we surrendered to the French this time.
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try doing this with European plugs
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>>47486236
How are you typing this if u unplugged everything?
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>>47486249
What's your point? I can install USB adapters into my wall as well.
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>>47486249
USB is universal
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>>47486262
He's on battery
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>>47486262
On laptop battery, stealing wifi from neighbor.
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>>47486262
:^)
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>>47486249
ok...
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>>47485494
>This is also a curse because they're worse than lego bricks for standing on in the dark, because they LIKE to lie on their back pins up.
This is a pain the rest of the world will never have to endure, lucky, lucky bastards.
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>>47486249
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>>47486249
That looks really gay. Pretty much something only Apple enthusiasts would like.
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>>47486267
Why isn't Europe adhering to the universe standard, then?
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>>47486127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcZmISpjQXI
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>>47486293
You know in America we just use a power strip.
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>>47486314
How the fuck does that guy even function
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>>47486306
They are.

Do you know who you can thank for every new phone being chargeable using a USB cable? The EU.
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>>47486249
>>47486288
We all have these now
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>>47486305
I would love to install wall plates like this in areas that I charge my devices and the only Apply product I'd ever own is the iPod. So, think again fucker.
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>>47486336
>having a cheap Chinese DC device embedded in the wall
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
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how can you actually know your N wire isn't connect to the MCB? who know who built your house.
don't trust AC
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>>47486336
>having switches on the wall
>forget to switch it off
>get fried
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>>47486347
Why don't you just take a small adapter with you?
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>>47486366
>live in third world country where our outlets don't have switches on them
>every day I have to mop up all the electricity that spills out
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>>47486370
I find it hilarious how bad this design is
>let's make it flat
>but not in the proper way, let it stick out to the maximum
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>>47485855
>Can't plug in wrong
>Mandatory ground
>Mandatory switch
I see nothing wrong.
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>>47486370
Because they're easy to lose and they take up an outlet, just to charge a device. Maybe I don't want to have to unplug something just to plug in the brick. All I would do is plus in my USB cable and I wouldn't have to worry about it.
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>>47486366
just ... what??
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>>47486362
Put an antistatic wrist clip on, stick a paperclip in the neutral socket hole and bring your finger slowly towards the paperclip before touching it. You won't get badly shocked because you're earthed but you should see a small, harmless spark if your wiring is incorrect.
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>>47486400
how the fuck can you plug AC wrong?
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>>47486193
Yes
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>>47486391
Still better than these things that block at least one or two other plugs.
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>>47486415
Yes totally do this
Ground protects you
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>>47486412
That's retarded though, you'd still have to have a USB cable on you if you wanted to plug it in somewhere else, or just have USB cables noodling out of all your wall sockets like some filthy barbarian.

Just get a USB hub and manage your life properly.
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>>47486383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGO_jikBtM
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>>47484923
how the FUCK did you manage to do that?
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>>47486416
You can't, but >>47485767
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>>47485584
What are those other wires to the right? One looks like an CAT5 cable but I'm not sure about the other ones.
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>>47486443
That has nothing to do with plugs.
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>>47486451
Unless, of course, you plug your lamp in.
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>>47486383
Heh
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>>47486451
If you could plug it in backwards an on device switch won't do shit.
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>>47486445
The up middle one looks like an antenna jack, the one on the right looks like some worm that's waiting to eat a finger or cable that comes by.
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This reminds me of something that irked me to no end with my parents.
>Dad uses a converter to avoid having to plug in the ground pin so he can use ancient extension cord which has no ground plug
>mfw the grounding pin just dangles in the air
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>>47486049
>t. Mad jelly and poor americuck
Ah yes, feels nice living in a country with direct democracy and such a good economy that you only need one job to earn a living
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>>47486049
>>47486142
>>47486069
it's a deprecated term now. it has no political meaning and the word you want for an impoverished country is "developing"
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>>47486295
that's not as slick
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>>47486451
I bet you European effects don't even have outlets like that so the back of your devices.
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>>47486434
I would be carrying a USB cable with me for multiple reasons. To me, it's easier to just carry the one less thing. Or course, I'm talking about this just being in my home anyways, where I'll have a USB cable readily available. It just makes more sense to me to not accidentally lose a charging brick and then worry about finding one with the right specs to spend a shit ton on. I'd rather spend a decent amount of money on three or four of these, and switching my cable around when I need to.
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>>47486575
....What?
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>>47486609
How often do you actually lose charging bricks? I lose USB cables far more often, somehow.

Also, I don't know how short your phones life must be if you need to charge it in every room. Most people I know, even an Android developer, has one or two high-power chargers, and then one in their car. That's mostly for the tablets, the phones he'll just charge anywhere.
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>>47486575
>daisychaining devices
lol murrica.
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>>47486575
You mean like this?
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>>47486649
I don't very often, but the people I live with do A LOT. For some reason I always think of others when trying to also make things easier for myself. I have no clue why, it would just be easier to do the things I want to do and not worry about them, but I can never just think of myself. So all of these wall plated wouldn't really be for me, but I'd most likely use all of them on certain occasions. The one that would get used the most would be the one in my bedroom obviously, but it would be nice to have one in my kitchen, by the couch, and beside my computer for obvious reasons. It just seems convenient to me and worth the initial investment. I've really got not problem moving the brick from one outlet to another, but it would really be nice to just have the port there to begin with.
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>>47486794
I've gotta start proof reading before I post. Typos make me feel idiotic.
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>>47486779
wow, thats fucking ugly as sin.
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>>47485145
>humanity
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>>47486213
They should relocate the hosting to some other country anyway.
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>>47484942
Anon, the socket didn't break, the Europlug did.

Also, it's one of the sockets close to the following master race standard:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60906-1

There is no better standard for household sockets anywhere. It's made for current manufacturing techniques, doesn't waste materials, is very stable and safe... basically perfect until we step beyond the current plastics and metals.
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>>47486837
It's on the back of an FM receiver/amplifier, it's use is to power the CD player, not look nice.
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>>47486856
Like I said, 4chan operates out of the US. Why should they host in another country when they are based in the United States? You're just begging for an increase in site downtime, aren't you?
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>>47486249
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>>47486370
I've had multiple of these. I think there are multiple manufacturers making them - and mostly they are pretty crappy. I initially thought I had something defective, but I wouldn't buy them again after I noticed the problem is pretty systematic. They're barely good enough to charge some battery with tons of heat and losses.

http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/usbPowerSupplyTest%20UK.html

A bunch of better ones are tested here, too:
http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexUSB%20UK.html

I've mostly got some Ioncell, Xiaomi, HTC (all original - there are fakes of them all, too) and a bunch of other devices to get from household power to USB 5V now, and these just work better.
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>>47486356
this guy has a point.

this practical solution includes a new point of failure: the USB port is maybe soon obsolete because of USB type C (imagine 20 years from now: having 20 year old old wallplugs isn't that uncommon I'd say. Especially when the cost to install was high or higher as usual as in this case). Or imagine having the adapter break down: you'd have to change the whole wall adapter. Also the quick charging of newer phones will probably not work (Samsung used proprietary standards in it's Note series for example, with 1800 mA of charging power).
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>>47486305
>convenience is actually gay
Are you retarded?
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>Europlugs
>Incredibly fucking enormous, hugely spaced pins
>Bizarre shapes that make wallwarts impossible without blocking other ports without adapters
>Incredibly space inefficient
>B-BUT M-MUH 220V! M-MUH S-SUPERIOR STRENGTH!
How about you not be a fucking 2 year old and learn to not fuck up pins?
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>>47485423
>Using a Microsoft OS made after 2007
Enjoy your PRISM backdoors, pleb
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>>47487182
Dude, Europlugs are small as fuck.
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>>47487182
How about you ask first and then try to say something stupid?
see >>47487233
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>>47487182
wall warts are terrible regardless though :(
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>>47485554
We have this in the Netherlands.. together with the non grounded smaller version
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>>47486154
>>47486134
None of my "schuko" plugs have that hole.. Netherlands here... I encountered these in I believe germany and france.. My devices couldn't fit...
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>>47487182
Bong who lived in the US for 5 years
The plug on my vacuum cleaner and just about everyone I know looked like this
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>>47486962
Sure, I know that their small size comes at a cost
But if you REALLY need to charge your phone everywhere, it's pretty much the only option
I only charge my phone via PC USB, I don't use these things.
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>>47487474
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>>47487233
That's about twice as wide as the comparable US plug.
>>47487474
How can you possibly do this without either stepping on it or using excessive force? I don't think it's a problem with the design. Those little plastic bits on the Europlugs would just snap off if you did whatever you did to your vacuum cleaner.
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>>47487763
>Those little plastic bits on the Europlugs would just snap off if you did whatever you did to your vacuum cleaner.
Your vacuum cleaner wouldn't use an Europlug. They would use Schuko. Also, what plastic bits?
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>>47486794
>next to your computer
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>>47487809
>plastic bits
I think he means like OPs did
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>>47485882
SCHUKO
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What is the objectively best plug? Having the most features doesn't mean it's the best if its gigantic (UK Plug).
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>>47487763
I doubt you'd be able to break one of pic related with normal use.

>>47487889
First, that's some cheap chink shit.
Second, bigger devices (such as vacuum cleaners) would use pic related as plug (at least where I live), and those are pretty solid and sit tightly in the socket.
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>>47487809
>>47487962
So what determines what uses the wimpy plugs and what uses the expensive overkill plugs in Europe?
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>>47488037
Grounded/ungrounded and generally if it needs to be mobile or not.
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>>47488037
Manufacturers testing the durability of their device. Everything is covered by a two year warranty, so it's in their best interest to not have things break. Also, it depends on whether the thing you plug in is supposed to be grounded or not.
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>>47488037
Grounded or not mostly.
Computer (screens), tv's, laptops, vacuums, hair dryers, grinders, sanders, building lights, coffee machines, washing machines ect. use the big ones.
The low powered machines use the smallers one (mobile device chargers, sound systems, desk lights, fans, ect.)
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>>47487474
American here. Can confirm this happens to literally every vaccum you find here. Fairly certain it is because there is nothing for the plug to brace itself against when pulled sideways besides the prongs.
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>>47488104
>>47488130
>>47488191
Makes sense. I wonder why US vacuum cleaners aren't grounded, now that you mention it. Maybe it's because grounded plugs aren't always available. Is every plug in Europe grounded? We use grounds for most computers, some displays, and power tools but not for things like hair dryers or vacuum cleaners. Washing machines use 240 volts and a special plug.
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>>47488212
>I wonder why US vacuum cleaners aren't grounded,
Last time I checked vacuum cleaners are made of plastic
the fuck do you need to ground it for?
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>>47488234
I guess that makes sense. Why do Europeans ground their vacuum cleaners then?
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>>47488212
There is a in-between plug here for vacuums. It is big, but it hasn't got the earth.
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>>47488130
Apple warranty is literally the fucking worst, having to go to the apple store only to get told by a bunch of hipsters sitting around that I need to make an appointment

take the 45 minute drive home, go online make an appointment for a week in advance because they had nothing sooner.

Week goes by, go in to try and get my warranty to cover the glass on my iphone that broke. Get told "oh it'll be 80 dollars to use your warranty to replace the phone" fuck that I'd rather just put 80 dollars into a new phone and plan at that rate. The entire time I was there they were trying to sell me everything. They wanted to charge me 20 dollars to back up my photos and contacts to the apple cloud because I didn't already, the phone isn't broken just the glass, I need the glass fixed not a new phone.

Apparently "apple warranty" only covers the phone when its completely fucking fucked and any attempt to claim a warranty results in trying to get a new phone replaced.

Then they tried to sell me fucking phone covers and extended warranty plans despite already having a 2 years left on my warranty.

fuck apple I should have just gotten my warranty through verizon.
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>>47485025
underrated post
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>>47488278
Thanks. That looks like the pins won't snap off and there's no ground, so I finally understand what people are talking about. I guess the only disadvantage is it's so big.
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>>47485034
I thought your keyboard had a duck key for a second
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>>47484970
You don't need to do this, the outlets are AC, meaning the only way to get shocked is to touch the negative and positive terminals.

just get a pair of pliers and rip the one prong out, you won't get shocked.
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>>47488272
no reason really, its just something they all do regardless

I have a coffee maker from 10 years ago that does have a ground but I have one from a few years ago from the same company (different model) that doesn't have a ground for some reason.
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Why do the swiss have such shit tier outlets?
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>>47484940
>>47484942
Exactly. Why doesn't everyone use these.
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>>47486366

>Having switches in the fusebox
>Forget to turn them off
>House burns down at night
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>>47488327
>meaning the only way to get shocked is to touch the negative and positive terminals.
No. If you touch the AC terminal current will flow from the contact point to the ground.
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>>47488212
>Maybe it's because grounded plugs aren't always available. Is every plug in Europe grounded?
Do you mean every socket? I think at least in my country, every new/freshly renovated house is required to use grounded sockets only, but there are still some older houses with ungrounded ones. Note that you can plug in a grounded plug into an ungrounded socket, (but not vice versa), so grounded plugs can always be plugged in.
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>>47488392
then don't touch the ground, if this was all DC then touching anything that had current going through it would shock you

touching that one prong won't shock you at all.
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>>47488371
>glorious British design
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>>47488371
are those switches to turn on your outlets?
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>>47488374
Wait. You turn your fucking fusebox off at night?

Who the fuck does that.
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>>47488418
>then don't touch the ground
Are you an evolutionary human that can fly or some shit?

>you are now imagining anon jumping to grab the broken prong
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>>47488417
Yeah, socket sorry. Isn't that dangerous? Aren't grounds included for safety?
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>>47485034
Druck key

>mfw
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>>47488438
there are 3 fucking prongs, AC in and AC out, then the ground

his fucking prong is stuck in one, you don't have to turn off the electricity, just don't touch any other prong and remove the one stuck in the right side.

holy shit when this happens in america, I don't need to unplug or shut off anything I can just not touch anything else and remove that one fucking prong.

its not rocket science its basic electrical circuitry
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>>47488297
Have you tried, uh, not breaking your phone?
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>>47488485
>AC out
Also known as neutral in 1st world countries.
The current can flow from the AC prong to the ACTUAL GROUND THROUGH YOUR FEET
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>>47488507
>buy warranty incase something happens
>something happens
>want to use warranty
>its a bunch of shit buzzword shit that doesn't cover anything except if it completely breaks
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>>47488458
>Druck key
What's a druck key?
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>>47488507
>not breaking an iPhone
It's like asking someone to not die
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>>47488518
I wear real shoes, I'm not grounded. this is why it doesn't happen to me. my floors are hardwood.
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>>47488533
A key you druck.
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>>47488544
You seem to mistake wearing shoes indoors for 1st world.
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>>47488561
its my house I do what i want

or do you not have that freedom in europoorland? do the house police come by and tell you you need a house shoe license or something? because you need a TV license in britain to use a TV responsibly.
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>>47485145
did he died?
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>>47486383
>tfw my girlfriend leaves curling iron on after she leaves
>open door to bathroom, bunch of electricity spills out all over the carpet
every time
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>>47486175
>edison
>named after the biggest, theiving bastard who ever lived in clapistan
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>>47486222
made some smoke there matey boy
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>>47486868
>not Schuko
In the trash it goes. Larger footprint = more stability + a long cable with a Schuko plug at the end can be used as a weapon if you're desperate.
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>>47488711
smokeless powder makes a fuckton less smoke than regular black powder
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>>47488533
Print
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>>47486158
LOOOOOOOL took me 5 min, but i finally got it. LIKED!!
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>>47485751
PAY DEBTS
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>>47488435
Yes, no power goes through until they're turned on.
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>>47487959
Nice try.
I said better.
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>>47488533
I aint got a fuckin clue, must be come ex commie countrys keyboard standard
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>>47488754
that seems like a really stupid design, I'd just leave them turned on at all times.
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>>47488719
>smokeless
>makes smoke
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>tfw living in a cheap rental apartment where they didn't even bother putting the sockets properly in the wall
>tfw cant put stuff next to the wall because of these fuckers being everywhere
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>>47488789
in comparison, smokeless gunpowder is very much smokeless compared to regular blackpowder

do I have to say it again or are you not getting the gist?
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>>47488804
But you DO have glorious Schuko, be happy for that one Anon. Glorious Schuko will save your life one way or the other.
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>>47488788
Nah, it's good.
>television wastes power in standby
>don't want to plug it out every night
>just use the switch
2easy

Also means the plugs don't get damaged from arcing, because the arcing happens in the switch which is designed to handle it better.

And, of course, in OPs situation you can just switch it off and it is safe to touch with your hands. (or if kids get knives into the sockets, etc)
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>>47488854
I've never had an AC outlet damaged because of arching when plugging something in, they're designed to take that every time you plug something in. Arching is just the voltage being high enough to conduct through the air to another node when they come close enough.
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>>47488875
It's rarely the socket, usually plugs that get damaged the most.
The main risk is an increase in resistance, which could become a fire hazard if it is not noticed.
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>>47488854
the money you save by turning it off is probably spent on replacing the switch when it inevitably breaks down
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>>47488875
>Arching is just the voltage being high enough to conduct through the air to another node when they come close enough.
The sparks happen because of initial contact.
The surface area that's touching has a high resistance relative to the device it's supposed to be powering causing it to heat up nearly instantly.
themoreyouknow.jpeg.png
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>>47488902
>inevitably breaks down
I've got sockets on the wall that are as old as the house. We build them tough.
The only reason I've got new ones is that we needed more.

Also, with some devices (particularly pre-environmental standards) the savings can be significant.
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>>47488371
Because they are fuckin huge and clunky.
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>>47488919
right but its not exothermically expanding enough or fast enough to create any sort of fragmenting hazard. If anything if the resistance of copper were high enough to cause such a thing such as fire, building inspectors probably wouldn't use them nor would the electrical unions use them. In general American AC outlet plugs are replaced once every 15-30 years.
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>>47488788
care to explain why you think it's a bad/stupid design?
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>>47485532
Who in gods name switches everything off individually? Are you a poorfag? That's completely retarded.
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>>47485061
>tfw longbow charger.
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>>47486204
Hidden and reported
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>>47489028
because why turn it off, I'd just leave it on all the time.
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>>47486158

Loooooool where's the 'I luv it' option ??? xD
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>>47488527
You're talking about insurance: warranty covers only factory flaws, not user's fuck up.
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>>47489053
using the switch is less effort than removing the plug, for things that you wouldn't want to leave unattended (e.g. dodgy chinese chargers)
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>>47488789
Well Lesssmoke powder just sounds retarded
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>>47489091
I bought a 3 year accidental warranty from apple.
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>>47484923
vo wo bisch?
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>>47489096
or you know, don't buy dodgy chinese shit and just turn off your thing, its really that simple.
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>>47489033
Most of the civilised world. :^)
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>>47489119
Did you read the accidental warranty terms? I guess they cover the damaged parts price, not the work to replace it.
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>>47486175
>Dat israel plug
Ayy lmao
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>>47489167
the glass breaks and it wants to envoke as a completel phone replacement which isn't necessary, I could replace the glass myself.
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>>47488788
>>47489033
>>47489053
Do you plug something out whenever you want to turn it 'off off'? Seems harder than it needs to be.
Doesn't cost me any extra having the switch, isn't any harder for the sparky to install.
Why not?
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>>47489182
here you go.
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>>47489123
Walenstadt SG und du?
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>>47485767
We had one accident like that in a nordic country which I prefer not to say, but aanyway the camper trailer that one person had did contain this kind of setup that the neutral wire was grounded to the camping trailers chassis and whenever you put the power for the trailer from ac source, the chassis was either "grounded" or contained 230V of AC so it was 50/50 chances every time you plugged it in. SO, one nice day the owner and his family was on vacation and it had rained in the night. Well the owners kid woke up first and went out. The ground was wet and he was bare foot leaning on the camper trailer and he got killed by 230V running through his body so yes, as a user of Schuko, I think that the plug is shit. Goodnight.
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>>47488421
>Canadian pm on a post complimenting British design.
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>>47489137
we don't live in a perfect world
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>>47485832
No they were not regards Finland.
>>
Speaking of cheap chinese shit, I just bought a Li-ion replacement battery for my laptop on Ebay. What are the chances it will set fire to my house and kill me?
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>>47489204
Then why did you sign the accidental warranty?
It sounds like you accidentally the accidental warranty.
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>>47489390
50/50
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>I prefer British and American sockets to European standard. Anglo is the masterrace
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>>47486186
>Crazed schizophrenic thinks he is the opinion controller of a image board used by millions of people all around the world and reads opinions that aren't even there.

Pls go.
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>>47488715
> Larger footprint = more stability
In general, yes. But it's a hex socket for a reason, it has decent mechanical stability in the right directions and will generally unplug and not break under stronger forces.

Basically, Schuko isn't all that much more stable for being so huge.

> a long cable with a Schuko plug at the end can be used as a weapon if you're desperate
Well, yea... not sure if that is an useful feature, though.
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>>47485504
:o
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>300 replies
What the fuck /g/?
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>>47489267
BS

>tfw swiss bros recognize each other by their glorious master race plugs
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>>47485605
It matters if you are going to connect a blade center that requires 6 230V cables into the wall socket.
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>>47488234
>>47488272
In case you vacuum up a liquid. I shit you not.
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>>47488533
>What's a druck key?
Print=Druck in german you illiterate prick
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>>47485212

> the left is neutral

This guy either broke into OP's house or just takes a 50% 50% gamble.
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