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>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2904480/
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17163954

Why aren't you smoking yet /fit/ ?
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>>42838145
Smoked since I was 13 buddy boyo
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>>42838152
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>>42838145
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11351342
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7637048
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>>42838275
>fertility
who gives a fuck ?
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>>42838326
good geneticlet
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>>42838145
Just bought my first pack today
>Test gains
>Natural AI
>Adrenaline boost (Metabolism gains)
>Suppress appetite
>Die early
For real I don't know why I didn't start sooner
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>>42838835
Too much of a low t high inhibition beta, real high T chads start in their early teens
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>>42838145
Why are you such a lazy cunt so you wont even post a summary of what the studies findings are?

>>42838275
Who gives a flying fuck about fertility?
Im guessing around 75% of /fit/ doesnt get laid and the rest dont want kids with the sluts they manage to bang

Youre not gonna pass on your genes to even 1% of the girls you manage to bang during drunken hookups with birth control pills, morning after pills and abortions being so common these days so its pure bullshit
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>>42838145

smoking doesn't increase testosterone, higher testosterone leads to more risk taking behaviour hence smoking
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>>42838145
enjoy balding in your mid 20s
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>>42838965
What did he mean by this
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>>42838853
I'm only 20 and on TRT anyway
I have no excuse not to make mad gains now
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>>42838976
it means smoking increases DHT, which slowly kill off your hair follicles before they suddenly all fall out and you're a oldcel before you know it, not to mention it absolutely destroys your collagen forever
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>>42838853
>chads start in their early teens
chads don't smoke
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>>42838965
>smoked for 25 years+
>full head of gorgeous hair
It's genetics. If you're gonna be bald you're gonna be bald, smoking and creatine just speed up the process.
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>>42839005
But follicular androgen sensitivity is in fact genetic.
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>>42839028
Forgot picture. It's Ville Valo if anyone wants to know
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>>42839028
why would to actively try to speed up aging?
>>42839031
keep thinking that when it suddenly sneaks up on you
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>>42838874
>dat projection
I'm guessing /fit/ is chock full of retarded children like you as well who are scientifically illiterate enough to believe an increase in testosterone necessarily translates into any kind of increase in androgen action or net benefit given all the other off-target effects of smoking.
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>>42838145
Not gonna read that but I will say this: I'm stationed in italy (military) and have traveled around europe. French and Itlaians all smoke like chimneys and they both have higher life expectancies than the U.S. They diet right and exercise. Italians ride bikes nonstop. Even the elderly. When was the last time you saw a 70 year old riding a bike? It's normal to see even old people on bikes there.

I think smoking does hurt you but if you diet right and exercise, I think it can be nullified.
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who here /gauloisesblondes/
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>>42839079
I didnt even comment on the article at hand, dipshit but nice try
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>>42839140
Surely it makes more sense than smoking hurts you, with diet and exercise having very little impact on nullifying these effects. Instead diet and exercise if poor, which they are in the US over Italy or France, has a much more damaging effect than smoking.
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Smoke tobacco instead
Cigarettes make you feel like garbage
I smoke tobacco in between my study sessions. It relaxes me and allows me to finish strong.
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>>42839140
Smoking is still a quantitatively larger contributor to death and disability in those countries relative to dietary and other behavioral factors

https://vizhub.healthdata.org/gbd-compare/

The biggest drivers for life expectancy discrepancies in those countries are the insurance and healthcare systems

https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13497/us-health-in-international-perspective-shorter-lives-poorer-health
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>>42839193
Then why are you quote mining from it, dumbfuck? The outcome relevant to the thread was impaired testicular function in general, specifically testosterone production.
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You people are so weak.
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>>42838145
Yellow pack is fucking disgusting. Light blue/Dark Green/Black pack are all god-tier.

Orange though... orange is just the fucking worst.

And yeah, I unironically smoke American Spirits because it makes me look hip/cool/wealthy when I'm out with friends/at the bar etc. I'm no nigger Newport smoker.
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>>42838145
snus is better
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>>42839352
No.
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what about pipes? they seem comfy
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>>42839418
Used to smoke one. It looks cringe as fuck, but the tobacco high is so much better. My advice would be smoke a pipe when you're older because it really does make you look like a fedorafag if you're smoking it in your 20s.
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>>42838145
ten years strong my man
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>>42839004
>TRT and smoking
why do you hate your cardiovascular system?
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>>42839185
nat sherman classics, boyo
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Grow your own tobacco. Very easy to do.

Smoking straight tobacco is not bad for you. Store bought cigarettes are bad for you because they contain over 2000 other chemical ingredients.
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>>42839016
this
you smell like shit
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>>42838145
>International journal of Andrology
>Biological Psychiatry journal
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>>42839016
>chads don't smoke
C O P E
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>(((smoking)))
i dip like a real man.
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>progressives launch propaganda campaign against the supposed health risks smoking
>only lasts a little over a generation before the latest maturing generation uncovers that the entire thing was manufactured bullshit as part of a scheme to carry out Marxist objectives of cultural and economic destruction.
I love it when the kids break the conditioning.
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i just wanna be a cowboy
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>>42840067
you do realize that america is in it's current dietary and bariatric mess because tobacco companies and sugar companies both paid fda researchers to say that fat was the cause of early death and heart attacks and not tobacco right?

Tobacco was the sole factor in heart attacks and deep vein thrombosis prior to the 1960s
educate yourself before you irreversably destroy your lungs and get one of the worst diseases known to god's green earth
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>>42840192
>he thinks my occasional smoke is what's going to give me cancer
You ever send off a sample of your tap water for a contaminants analysis? 50+ years of THAT is what gives people cancer. Don't think I'm rambling about fluoride like a headcase either, forget fluoride, it's nothing compared to heavy metals. Statistically speaking, the water leaving your tap has a lead level above the clinical limit but below the legal one, not just lead, by the way, Pb is just the star of the show. It's the same deal for dozens of different contaminants all around the country. Many age related diseases are just the end result of a very slow poisoning process.
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