Fraud (Steroids general)

I do curls in the squat rack.
Its my rack fuck you

Yo fraud, i have a question, as a 23 year old lifting for 4 years what is the real risks of taking a 500mg test e per week for 12 weeks cycle with proper pct? All i have read so far points for a 50/50 chance of something going wrong with it and leaving me limp dicked for the rest of my life or not..

>>42833641
The biggest risk is drowning in pussy

Let's talk Trest Enanthate.

Meme source has it at 200mg/ml.

Given how much stronger than test it's supposed to be. Then 200mg should be quite a good bulking dose, hell even 100mg should do it.

Thoughts?

Seriously of thinking grabbing a vial.

>Source forgets dbol
>Got flu anyways and itll probably clear up in 5 days
>It usually comes in 6 days
I guess Im okay with this?

>>42833615
Anyone try that yellow stuff from that one creepy looking desert insect? g2g?

>>42833671
Keep that gyno in check

>>42833684
I know, I'll have letro and Asin.

>>42833671
trest a dosage is usually 25-50mg a day.

Does it matter if I inject prop in the morning or night?

>>42833722
Yes but it is also exceptionally strong allegedly. And also stated that doses from 10mg are effective.

>keep having dreams about going bald even though my hairline hasn't receded at all and my hair isn't thinning
this place is poison

>>42833745
no

>>42833749
don't forget the enanthate ester weighs more than acetate. and I have never heard of a 10mg ed trest a cycle. I think 200mg is the minimum you should run

>>42833615
Not sure if this qualifies as source talk as such: where do UK anons get 'lab gear' from, like syringes, bario water, vials etc? If this counts as source talk then just ignore.

>>42833671
It's going to feel like injecting cornstarch.

>>42834092

exchangesupplies

>>42834106
Cheers

Is 400iu HCG twice a week a reasonable routine?

>>42834106
Thats an awesome sauce, cheers

>>42834101
Where is your evidence for this?

Meme source says Trest E raw they produced is liquid rather than powder, requires low solvent because of that, and he has his own 500mg/ml for personal use.

>>42834308
for what purpose

no

>>42834745
Just maintaining testicular function during a 15 week test cycle and making PCT as good as possible.

>>42834106
Doesn't have vials or bariostatic water, what a dumb recommendation.

>>42833615

So I'm that retard that has been randomly injecting test with no real schedule/dosage set and I think I experienced my first set of side effects about 48 hours after my last injection of 500mg (which was like 4.5 days after a 375mg injection), so yesterday I took a 12.5mg asin and felt a little bit better. I want to keep taking asin even today but don't want to overdo it and make myself feel sick. any suggestions?

>>42834822
I also want to add that I got completely shit face plastered (killed 750ml of 60% bourbon) the night after injecting which I think may have contributed. I don't know. I am sleeping well, busting huge nuts, and my joints don't really ache. I just feel kinda anxious. But I am also dieting hard so who the fuck knows

>>42834822
Stop what you are doing and do some reading would be my suggestion before you totally fuck your body up. It should be about a week of reading and preparation before you get going with any cycle.

>>42834855
Fuck off nerd

>>42834855
found the redditor

took 40mg dianabol and shooting 800 test tonight
first ever cycle today

It finally happened lads. I've went from king libido to no libido. I think it's because I've came off EQ and tren back to test e only, then my estro tanked.

>>42834796
>bariostatic
it does, you just don't know how to spell it

>>42834822
You should do it on set days but really that doesn't sound like enough to get sides, assuming test e. maybe just test flu plus hangover plus lack of carbs making you tired and cranky

If you're worried drop down to 150mg/week until you feel good then blast the rest

>>42834937
20-30mg of dbol and 500-600 test e pw

>>42834948
> We do not stock bacteriostatic water, which has anti-bacterial additives

>>42834957

I've got tritest 400

>>42833615
Any thoughts on utilizing some old HCG my TRT doctor gave me?

Past the 30 day fridge expiration date, thinking of drawing some and freezing it. Is there any benefit to HCG other than just using it for PCT/TRT protocol? Quality of life, dick growth, anything?

Will getting on gear make me actually like myself or see myself having any kind of value?

>>42834951
thank you. yes, i dont think its that much either, maybe you are right and it is just test flu. what got me concerned was actually my nipples were just pointy and hard all day yesterday, normally they fluctuate between hard/pointy and soft but they were hard all day. they are soft today though so I think i am good

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Bully me fags,i'm a beginner

>>42833615
Any brazilian frauds around?

>>42834992
Fuck off beta nerd. Roids are only for chads

>>42835026
If you are even thinking of frauding at this stage fuck off.

>>42835069
But I want to be a chad

>>42835082
Already 4 weeks on test e + dbol my gains are incredible and i also used clen and speed to lose water weight :^) feels good to mix shit

>>42834992
YES >>42835026 this is me and i have changed a shit ton despite faggots saying that "hurr u shouldnt roid early"

>>42835103
>clen and speed
rip heart

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>>42835130
All is okay,i drink a fuckton of water but not too much and i'm fasting to keep HGH and IGF-1 levels naturally high

>>42835154
>tfw natty HGH levels were tested at 444
>optimal is 250-300
Should I start fasting bro?

Or should I hop on MK66

is 20 too early for roids should you wait for 25

>>42835215
Shut the fuck up beta cuck. If you have to ask, you're not meant to roid

So yeah, I'm skinny as fuck (150 lbs) at 6'0. Last couple of months been eating 3500kcal a day and gaining mass and muscle, not bad.

But I will cheat. I will do a cycle of winstrol and dbol, try to bump my calories to 4000 or 4500 and lift 5 days a week.

Can i expect looking like a normal regular good looking man after this? I known I shouldn't cheat if I'm just at noob gains but all honest here, i almost killed myself (unrelated causes) last weekend and i need something to make me feel better.

With just getting to 170 lbs I'd be happy. I know winstrol is for cutting but apparently that and dbol with high calorie intake can help bulking clean?

I'm only interested in results

>>42835253
I'm 25 btw

>>42835253
At 150lbs you have a lot of natural room to grow
Forget winstrol and dbol, Test E first or maybe Test e +dbol
check the plebbit wiki for your first cycle planning

>>42835215
Wait to 25, if you can't enjoy young gains and be patient then you are just going to fuck up your body regardless.

>>42835229
probably time to get off the tren and chill the fuck out
>>42835280
I've been enjoying young gains since 15 though
And I want to reach 240lbs lean for heavyweight mma

>>42835253
Go back in time and kill yourself, you stupid fucking mongoloid. Get the fuck outta MY thread

>>42835290
> lifting at 15
Did you end up 5'8? Regardless i started at 17 and did a first cycle at 25. Those years in between were getting better at working out and getting big, spending time on cardio, sports, martial arts etc. There's no real reason to fraud before then regardless of health reasons and most people i knew who did so were nowhere near their natty limit and didn't reach it even on gear. They were just throwing money away for laziness.

>>42835290
Oh i missed the mma part. If you have an actual reason to fraud young, that outweighs the health damage then it's different. Especially if there is no screening. Chems will enable you to train much more often and vigorously.

>>42835307
Nope 6'2
I just don't want to compete at LHW and be the king of manlets you know

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>>42835174
fasting is a hack,honestly

I feel great and i can lose a fuckton of fat in a matter of days

See this shit

>pic related is me 3 days ago and the video is from YESTERDAY>>42835026

I roid so I can go to a furry convetion wearing nothing but a fursuit head and get free access to virgin teen awkward boipussy at any furry event or meetup ever.

>>42835329
240lbs lean isn't wild for 6'2 natty. I'm 6'0 and was 202lbs natty. If you want to purely spend more time training and not be tired then there is value there, but if that is your target then you should be able to reach it naturally without risking your ongoing hormones.

>>42835253
>and i need something to make me feel better.
Steroids will probably make you feel worse

>>42835335
I really hope you're trolling about being on steroids.

>>42835396
Why

I already gained a fuckton of weight

>>42835417
You are sub-natty

>>42835417
Well, you shouldn't take steroids when you're still in the dyel phase. You can get steroid like results without the use of steroids for the first 6 months, so why take something that's bad for your health and can give you a lot of side-effects when it's clearly not needed? So stupid.

>>42835438
Well not really,i'm on test and dbol so i'm pretty juiced

>>42835338
Can I do this... but for girls?

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>>42835442
Man it's not really that i could have been natty,steroids give you an aesthetic as fuck body type,just look at my shoulders/back-waist ratio

This CAN'T be achieved without steroids

>pic related goal body,will probably have it by the end of the cycle according to my calculations

>>42835442
>bad for your health
Literally nothing wrong with test until you start abusing other chems

>>42835444
Your chest is completely flat, your arms look sub 14 inches and your shoulders are boney as a result of no muscle mass. You're just going to injure yourself when you have no experience lifting and you probably don't know how to eat properly either, which will lead to shit results. I'm not trying to be rude, I am just trying to be real with you.

>>42835466
How much test are you taking? 500mg of test (most common starter cycle) will have adverse affects on your overall health.

>>42835464
He's got such a twink waist, it isn't aesthetic.

>>42835464
>Roiding for this

>>42833615
10/10 thread image

>>42835464
>pic related goal body,will probably have it by the end of the cycle according to my calculations

Ok, dude. You're clearly trolling at this point. It's so obvious. Try harder next time.

>>42835466
seconding that

I only have some irritating sides from dbol but nothing special,my health seems to improve considering i was 52kg at 20% bodyfat and i'm now at 67kg 13-14% bodyfat?If someone can guess for me it would be nice

>>42835474
effects *** English is hard, apparently.

>>42835474
I recovered from and ED so i pretty much know a lot of shit about nutrition and i'm efficient with it because it's even more important than AAS themselves

>>42835490
He's tall as fuck,i'm only 177cm

>T R E N P I L L
W A R N I N G
>W A R N I N G
D O N O T R E A D

You will never feel as great on anything else again except tren ace/test prop/mast prop

Even solo test e will make you feel shit

>>42835513
I'm feeling amazing on test. Going to be adding some EQ soon, should have me feeling even better. Going to stay away from tren as long as possible.

>>42835120
roiding for this

>>42835536
Why is every faggot here worried about getting BIG

I don't really give a shit about being big,i just want to have an aesthetically pleasing body,my genetics are also really helping

>>42835513
>>42835520

I have a love/hate relationship with tren. It sometimes just hurts to be alive with the sides. But when you get into the gym and get that pump again, you forget about it all.

You then go home and look at yourself in the mirror and realise you have never been so in love with yourself.

Combine that with test and mast and you becoming a breeding machine. You will literally fuck anything on cue, and you will be the best fuck of their life.

But then you jab again just before you go to bed, it takes your breathe away, you can't sleep and you sweat like a pig. And that's when the hate sets back in.

>>42835513
Tren makes me violently apathetic and suicidal. So nah, I'm good.

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>>42835360
>240lbs lean isn't wild for 6'2 natty

>>42835570
Best "breeding machine" cycle? Gonna knock up the wife this winter.

Anybody ever get rashes from AI? I think my exemestane is fucking me up.

>>42835736
I miscalculated, i only know kg

Has anyone needed raloxifene on a test-e cycle? I had planned to get it as advised in case of a gyno attack but i can find everything apart from it in one place so not sure i can be bothered to make a separate order solely for it.

Is it safe to do Clen cycle at 21?

>>42835805
it is never safe to do clen

>>42835817
sorry
is it "safe" to do clen at 21?
i.e not going to have higher risks vs if I waited till 25?

>>42835858
clen is a meme and is very bad for you, literally just eat one meal less a day instead of causing permanent heart damage

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>>42835450
To be completely fair, it'll only work if you are into short overweight girls.
Plenty of mildly chubby ones that could be considered cute though.

There are way more guys into these things so, statistically speaking, much more likely to find attractive guys with low self esteem and no sexual history.

38/M, 6'1", 280lb, ~30%bf, Training 10+ years.

Starting to really feel the age effect on test production. It's way harder to cut, and recovery times are a continual challenge.

Help me advance my cut. Ideally with no adverse side effects.

>>42835858
I'm 21 and run clen it's fucking safe,stop being a pussy it's not DNP

>>42835751
If you mean literally getting her preggers, best bet is nothing.

If you mean fucking the shit out of her, then test/tren/mast/proviron

>>42835776
That's what AI is for. It's not a terrible idea to have some ralox on hand just in case, but I wouldn't say you need it.

>>42835873
Get bloodwork done

>Help me advance my cut. Ideally with no adverse side effects.
Eat less.

>>42835776
You should always have some on hand. Imagine if you actually start developing gyno and you have to wait for that shit to arrive. Even if the chances are small with proper AI usage, it's stupid to take that risk.

>>42835868
Clen sucks, yes. It barely does anything. It is good for holding on to muscle mass, but that's what steroids are for anyway. It's much worse for your heart than steroids and it's so shitty compared to it. Increasing test will always give better results and won't rape your heart.

>>42835873
Bloodwork- if test is low, get on a TRT dose and cut, then add some anavar towards the end of the cut to preserve muscle mass and lose that stubborn fat.

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>just microneedle bro you won't lose your hair
>just use X product with Y compound to protect your hairline

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>>42834847
>>42834822
..why are you doing this? is injecting on a schedule hard?

>>42835335
sick gains bby looking like a melon dollar man. you and genova can compare who can do roids and look shittier

>>42835360
>I'm 6'0 and was 202lbs natty.
holy fuck this is pure larp thread. everyone I am 7'6 330 lbs and black AMA

>>42835870
>no sexual history
Why does this matter?

>>42836043
6' 202 natty isn't huge. That's reasonable.

>>42835893
I do. I feel like having more test in my system will make my baby closer to making it from birth since he was a yoked spermatozoon

>>42836064
I like to claim them by going raw.
Its what Im into.
It makes me hard.
Ive taken 9 virgnities in my life, all after my sexual rebirth from roids.

>>42836116
All men? Jesus.
When did you leave humanity behind?

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>>42836116
You can take mine next, daddy

>>42833615
How to HGH for dick gains?

Since a lot of you guys also use recreational drugs do they effect a cut progress?

Gonna cut out booze and stick to pills and coke.

>>42836227
Id like to know this as well.
Im a habitual user of Armodafanil

>>42836227
Please go find a drugs forum to discuss drugs on.

>>42836227
speed paste definitely accelerates fat loss by a huge degree,thousand time more than clen

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>>42833615
Can I cut on 250mg test E then do the normal 500mg bulk? I'm still fat but I want to hardcore cut. So I'm thinking starvation mode with protein shakes all the time. Would the 250 help keep whatever nonexistent muscle mass I have or should I just say fuck it and wait?

Getting vials soon this week so I'm hoping to start pinning.

This is what I look like. Fuck me.
Also I haven't hit the gym in 4 days and I've barely eaten all weekend. But still.

>>42836239
>/fraud/ not a drug forum

You wouldnt say that to someone asking if beer harms their gains.

>>42836269
If someone were asking that I would tell them to kts.
This is a ***performance enhancing*** drugs ***imageboard*** in which nobody actually uses them. It's a larp zone where going out of character or fictional boundaries is strictly forbidden.

>>42836233
I wouldn't really call moda a rec drug.

>>42836265
Cut now. You don't have any muscle to lose and all the fat will make AI dosing harder.

>>42836374
More like a "working" drug. Moron.

500mg test + no fap is so hard. And no, I am not one of those retards who thinks that no fap makes them into a super hero. I just like being more interested in girls. Before roids I never looked girls, now I look at every girls ass. Still too big of a pussy to talk to some, though.

Getting stuff for my bulk cycle.

Thinking of doing this:
1000mg Trest E for 20 weeks
200mg of Anadrol daily for 20 weeks
10 IU HGH daily for 20 weeks
20 IU of Insulin with each meal for 20 weeks

Aromasin as AI
Ralox of gyno prevention
Caber, cialis and other goodies on hand

Aiming to eat 6000 calories a day

>>42836510
This is why people with autism shouldn't take steroids.

>>42836510
Mate, nofap has More to do with porn exposure than actually fapping. You can fap, just don't go down the porn wormhole that ultimately leads to antisocial behavior

>>42836071
lean? no, it's huge

>>42836562
I dont really get how porn is bad, what kind of autist is made anti-social by having a wank.

>>42836558
You could at least try to make the larp believable.

>>42836391
>don't have any muscle to lose

But-but. My stats.
In all honesty though I was doing way too much strength straining and no hypertrophy. How do I change this? And why can't I cut for 6 weeks on 250?

I'm fairly strong I guess. People look at me weird when I do big boy weight. Its just my fucking muscles are gay and I look flat.

>>42836615
How strong is fairly strong?

>>42836615
>why can't I cut for 6 weeks on 250?
Who says you can't? You certainly don't need to though, the only people who legit need gear to cut without losing muscle mass are guys who compete, which you clearly are not.

>How do I change this?
Idk, read the goddamned sticky? It's not fucking rocket surgery, if tards like me can figure out a hypertrophy routine you can too.

Has anyone here tried this liquid fat burner lipid stack by rohm labs? Clen, T3, yohimbine and 7 keto. Thinking of adding it to my cutting stack.

>>42836625
345 squat. 335 deadlift. 205 bench. 135 OHP.
I'm still beginner stats but i guess I fucked myself over. Look like utter crap.
Not to mention I had a decent physique a while back. Only recently is when things went bad not sure why.

>>42836655
And I guess. I just want this shit spoon fed to me. My apologies
But if I can cut on test then fuck you I'm gonna do it. I wanna do this quick.

>>42836686
How do you squat more than you DL wtf

>>42836686
Test wont really speed up the cut much, but if you plan to be on for a long time just do it.

>>42836686
>fairly strong
Pls be kg

>>42836718
To be honest I'm not sure 335 if my max deadlift.

I just got really tired that PR day. The next day I did 325 for singles and I was pissed at myself.

>>42836730
And I'm not quite worried about the speed. Just for the extra boost. But thanks.

>>42836774
I can do my OHP and bench for reps if that helps :^)

>>42833624
My gym has 6 squat racks, which also double as places to bench as there are no open benches. They're barely all in use, so there's no reason not to at my gym.

It's only an asshole thing to do if your gym has 2 squat racks and there's a line of people waiting to use it since u can curl fucking anywhere

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hey fuckers

How would you judge when a good time to start your first cycle?

I'm 23 and 6'1" have plenty experience lifting, albeit currently building back up after a long layoff.

Right now I'm 180 @ 12.5% bf, and by the end of the year I should be about the same weight at 9-10% bf. Does this sound like a good time to start a test-e cycle with an adrol kickstarter?

I was originally gonna wait until I was 190, but I'd also be fatter by then and I wanna slay some serious college poon before graduation.

>>42833641

Some people don't recover well. The bigger risk is hating the boom and bust of coming off and just deciding to cruise and blast forever.

>>42834822
>I think I experienced my first set of side effects about 48 hours after my last injection of 500mg

Nigga wtf RU doin. Test e takes weeks to build up to any level where it's going to start causing "side effects"

Also LOL at taking 12.5 of asin and feeling immediately "a little better"

I think you probably need a therapist more than gear

>>42836958
Just do it if you want to. There's no steroid police who will beat you to death if you don't have elite numbers before hopping on.
Whatever makes you happy. I was around 6'2 9-10% 80kg before using and it made dieting and training a lot easier

>>42836958

Whenever you're OK with the fact that you might recover like shit and have to pin for the rest of your life just to feel human.

I always advocate 500 test e only for a first cycle. It seriously was an incredible boost and you know what exactly is causing any sides.

>>42836958
Do it when you feel that you can comfortably bulk, and dedicate the time to lift.

You are probably lean enough now, just read up on all the protocol you need to follow during a cycle and have all the things you need incase something goes wrong. I would recommend using some kind of oral or faster acting injectable along side test because the effects of test of so mild you wont even be able to tell when you are on gear.

Get prepared for amazing vascularity and people asking how the hell you look so ripped all the time, take winny so that you get a pump lifting up a box of the floor, or take some dbol to add 20kg to all your lifts in a week and look like a freak after 4.

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3rd month of test e, 1st week of tren a. Brehs

>>42837238
You're fucking gay, Paul.

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>>42837248
Taking the bait

>>42836686
>345 squat. 335 deadlift. 205 bench. 135 OHP.
Are these 1RM's or no? Either way, you need to cut.
>>42836575
>>42836071
6'0 202 lbs natty is easy, 6'0 202 lbs with sub 10% bodyfat is what I was thinking, which is possible for sure but that's still pretty fucking big for a natty.

>>42837267
>Taking the cock.

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>>42837248
He probably looks better than you friendo

>190 in feb
>to 215
>to 163
>back up to 190
Now to go back down and up before Feb.
Good one year transformation hopefully

Now if I could only stop drinking

>>42837267
I know you tried the "cool boss" pose but got the "screams of insecurities" pose

>>42837238
But looking good here

just done my first ever pin (well my housemate did it no homo). is it normal to get like electric jolts while doing it? my legs were proper shaking

>>42837299
He does, but I'm not gay.

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>>42837357
>"I'm not gay."
>posting on /fit/
>specifically in /fraud/
sure bby

>>42837273
Squat and dead yes. Bench and OHP no.

For some reason I can handle doing maybe 3 or 4 reps on bench and OHP. But I try to go up even by 5lbs and my elbow wants to give way.

>Order 2 packages same day
>When he sends it I only get 1 tracking number
>Ask if he combined them
>"Yes"
>Get it
>Other half is missing
I was going to go on my cycle but looks like I need to wait another fucking week.

>>42837476
Is this kinda bullshit common? Like you order what you need and they "forget" to send all of it?

>>42837519
First time I've used the source, but pricing is good and his concealment was on point.

My package was opened in customs, had the tape and everything, and they had fully inspected it, but I still received it.

>>42837026
Yeah I've been using since august 10th and just recently finished my first vial

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I'm 6'6 and 270lbs. When I was younger, I was in tremendous shape. Ran a sub-six minute mile at 310, could squat 495 for reps, deadlift 575, benchpress 320 (lmao 7'2 wingspan).

I haven't worked out seriously in years. I'm currently doing PSMF, I want to cut down to about 240. From there I'd like to start lifting heavy again and I'm entertaining the idea of doing a cycle.

For a former fatbastard in the process of getting lean and getting back into lifting (god it feels emasculating struggling with 225 on bench) once I finally get down to "I have visible abs" bodyweight, what compound would be best for a first time cycle?

I already have male pattern baldness and plan on shaving my head within the year, and I know getting lean will help prevent side effects in and of itself. I'm just tired of being a fat weak fuck.

>>42837682
250mg test for a year. Start using finasteride

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Can I bring Clomid and Nolva with me while travelling by plane inside the EU?

This is very important as my PCT will start at the exact time that I will spend between 7 and 14 days in another country.

>>42837682
read the op you mouthbreather

I'm getting serious shortness of breath during my workouts on cycle. Sometimes even when I'm just laying in bed resting. This is my first cycle (test e 500 weekly). What's up with the recent tightness in my chest and shortness of breath?

>>42838061
been on for 2 and a half months out of 4 I forgot to say.

>>42838061
Are you doing any cardio? How's your BP?

>>42833641
the biggest risk is taking a half gram of test as your cycle which is fuckin retarded. hope you stock up on aromasin

>>42838098
I haven't been doing cardio... tested my BP earlier this morning before I started getting shortness again:
139 sys
80 dia
82 pul

>>42833671
you can get trest ace for almost half the price your reddit meme master charges

people on that sub are the dumbest shits ever, they deserve every time someone does a massive scam lol

>>42838147
>>42838061
its probably cuz you are taking half a gram of testosterone with no blood pressure support. lol. all these niggas following the reddit first cycle are first in line for enlarged hearts

>>42837238
wtf 3 weeks and still look natty dayum no thanks to roids

>>42837267
your appearance and posing scream "i cant trust this man to cover my back in a firefight"

>>42837238
if i walked into the studio and saw you posing with ur shirt off i would 360 out to the gym desk and report you.

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R8 my first cycle m8'erinos

>>42837267
hey thanks for giving out personal information!
Don't forget where you are!

>>42837026
you dont know how ester release rates work if you think test e "takes weeks to build up to any level where you start getting sides". please stop repeating what you read on forums online, even steroidplot calculator clearly shows supraphysiological levels within the first few days, the fact you cant differentiate between that and how long it takes to reach peak steady state depending on dose frequency just shows me you have no right to be condescending to someone simply asking a question.

>>42838166
>>42838131
How is half a gram of test a week with aromasin retarded?

>>42836227
enjoy dying, my man.

>>42838204
Do not run dbol thru the entire cycle. trust me

>>42838166
Well, I guess I am fucked up. I thought I was supposed to take my aromasin only if I was getting gyno symptoms. I feel like I'm kind of fucked.

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>>42838230
Wait, fuck, how did I oversee that.

Also I only got enough Arim for 0.25mg eod.
Will I be fine, or should I just bite the sand and buy more?

>>42835466
>>42835491

>doesn't notice anything horribly wrong with health
>thinks he can magically feel his blood lipid profile to determine if healthy or not


these are the type of retards giving advice here. you folks think you are healthy because nothing is wrong with you that you can discern lol

>>42838215
Was I supposed to be taking aromasin all this time? I seriously had people telling me to not take it unless my nipples were itching. I'd seriously appreciate some guidance if there is any.

>>42834937
fucking retarded taking 0.8g of test a week as your first cycle

just straight up stupid as fuck the amount of retarded beginners in here. why the fuck would you do that in your first cycle? and testosterone?? god damn man this is what happens when reddit steroid sub gives advice

>>42838264
Depends how susceptible to gyno you are. 1mg ed wasn't enough to stop mine. Look at aromasin instead as it's slightly stronger

>>42838204
12 weeks of 350mg of dbol a week is a great way to die of liver failure or survive by getting a transplant. you are dumb as shit buddy.

>>42838215
go ahead and take half a gram of test a week with your first cycle without any bp support and not keeping aromasin dose dialled and then try an actual intelligent cycle with a better anabolic and then you will know

i also fell for testosterone cycle meme the first cycle, it was stupid as hell. these guys simply do it because reddit wiki reccomends it. with NO mention of how to keep your heart safe. i needed 80mg of micardis everyday on 350mg of test to even be in the normal range, alongside aromasin 25mg 2-3x a week. how is taking a cycle full of side effects you need to take other meds for a good idea for a beginner?

>>42838274
dude you are taking a half gram of the most aromatizing steroid there is. to think you dont need to take an AI consistently is total dumbness. high estro doesnt just effect gyno, it increases risk significantly of dying of a cardiac event or a stroke from a blood clot . thats why these cycles are dumb as shit, you need to be on top of your bloodwork which 95% of you don't even bother with and then have a boat load of ancilliaries. it would be more cost effective to just run a better steroid with TRT testosterone

>>42838310
to be fair, the 500 test beginner cycle is often toted here constantly.

>>42838264
It's different for everyone. some are perfectly fine with 0.25,some are not with even 1g ed

You'll figure out yourself

>>42838264
looks like a great cycle to become a blood engorged bloating mess with high RBC and hemo

good luck in ur stroke gains of 2017

>>42838321
maybe for my next cycle, but right now I'm concerned with just getting my heart feeling better.

Should I dial back to 250mg and start PCTing soon?

>>42838324
does that prove that it isn't retarded? it is "touted" here because reddit wiki says it and all the dummies who don't actually think for themselves critically about what they are doing just jump in.

reddit steroid forum and the source board single handedly contributed to the fucked up health of countless young retarded men and spread this culture of retardness over here too. its quite an interesting case study on the lemming/sheep theory

>>42838334
you should get on micardis or any other decent BP med right away, dose your AI correctly (nobody knows how unless you have bloodwork) and cut your dose in half or at least to TRT levels. if you stay on your dose at least take the meds properly for your own sake.

>>42838310
Then what should be optimal for first cycle? tren? you idiot mong

just because you are genetically trash and could not handle fucking 350g of test (barely above trt level) It does not mean that its not good for a beginner.

>>42838287
>>42838327
Thanks for the input.
What are early signs of gyno? Sensitive / sore nipples, right?

My source takes like 20 euro for shipping, so I don't want to order just a few pills and spend half the money on shipping.

>>42838333
I'll bite,
why do you feel that way?

>>42838348
you're arrogance isn't really called for when it's illegal and everyone has to rely on what they can find online in a sea of meatheads sharing their inane comments and bro science. People will go to Reddit hoping for some form of validity and to not have to ask questions just to weather catty comments from assholes here and elsewhere.

>>42838281
>and testosterone??
someone is stupid and it's not the guy you quoted

okay the guy you quoted also

Thinking on doing a first cycle of test e, would 200mg per wee too low? Should bump it to 400?

>>42838398
no and no

>>42838398
read the op you mouthbreather

>>42838376
some of the early signs include itchyness,puffyness,pain,sensitiveness.

Get blood work done regularly to keep estro and others at bay

>>42838321
>a half gram of the most aromatizing steroid there is
not even close actually

>>42838356
Is there anything I can get over the counter somehow? My doctor makes me wait weeks to see him.

>>42838376
Mine got itchy firsr. But I as bulking before my last cycle and got gyno before I'd even touched steroids so it was gonna go badly wrong. I did about two weeks of test p before stopping and taking 40mg of nolva a day and 1mg of adex.

Buy it mate. You can't cheap out doing this. Do it right or don't do it at all. I'll probably need surgery now to get rid of my gyno. Just been using plaster tape to tape the fuckers flat to last few days

>>42838264
why are you running hcg the whole time? why do you think you're going to need the same amount of AI both when you're on and off dbol?

I'd bump the cycle up to like 15-16 weeks (esp considering you're already going to be using clomid for pct) but other than that it's fine. nothing egregious about it

>>42838398
>would 200mg per week be too low?
Depends on your goals, but probably yes.

>>42838440
>Massively pedantic biochemistry rant:
Technically test probably is the most aromatizing steroid since it's the natural substrate for aromatase. It's just that things like trest convert to a much more estrogenic estrogen.

>>42838457
Grapefruit juice, coenzyme Q, maybe non-stimulant diuretics but don't quote me on that.

>>42838264
>>42838274
Btw, you can just chew nicotine gum through your cycle for the same effect. You won't get addicted if you're not coming off of smoking.

>>42836227
nvm had a bag, now to see if my gym performance is impaired.

Atleast i have not over ate, and the increased heart rate is bound to burn a few extra calories.

Any med students out there that know what would happen if you lifted on something that increased your sympathetic activity?

I'm taking my aromasin to help my bloodpressure/heart.. How long does it take to start having a positive effect?

>>42838596
This.

>>42838613
>Any med students out there that know what would happen if you lifted on something that increased your sympathetic activity?
Depends on what you took and how much. Probably increased sweating, higher heart rate and blood pressure, possibly nausea/vomiting/constipation depending on recent meals.

Also there's the whole "zyzz dying in a sauna" thing, so there's that too.

Has anyone used DNP while on? Or used DNP at the end of their cycle or during PCT? When's the best time to work it in if you gained alot of fat in your cycle?

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>>42833615
Anyone know what Musclehead320's previous conviction was for? He said he already did 6 years in prison. He's probably fucked when they sentence him for dealing roids and money laundering.

>>42833615
Does the hormonal changes from test make you more confidant?

>>42838719
only if you are low test

>>42838710
>cycling
never/months after pct
>bnc
during cruise

>>42838719
>>42838728
Damn nice post

I noticed that i'm getting a fuckton of pussy

hell test is like being high all the time

>>42836138
I want to roid to demolish twinks also mate good on you.

>>42837682
>Ran a sub-six minute mile at 310
You are so full of shit it's unreal.

>>42838728
I don't know my test so idk then.

>>42838310

Dude I can run 500 of test with no anti estrogen drugs. Get some bloat.

I suggest you find a different game as your body seems to hate you.

What do you suggest for a first cycle? 500mg was golden for me and I went from there, why is why I recommend it.

>>42838768

Story time in /fraud/ for real lol

how are you doing masT? is everything good?

Tried heating this shit up for 15 minutes and it's still cloudy. Was clear when it was bought. Will it still work?

It's my dumbass friends' bottle. I would just buy a new one but he's broke so he wants to know if it's salvageable.

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>>42838953
Fuck forgot picture

What BF% should I be at before I get on some shit?

>>42838747
could I drop to a cruise, DNP for 3 weeks, then PCT off the cruise?

>>42838986
yes.

Does DNP actually make all your internal organs yellow and permanently mess up your mitochondria?

>>42838953
sure its my friend! shits fucked

fuckin retard

I've just turned 18 and live in the UK so its legal to roid.
Should I roid? Thinking of going into the army though, is that more incentive to roid?

>>42838973
cunts wont tell you but its irrelevant, assuming your cholesterol, heart rate, fitness and lifting habits are all good

and if you're a fat cunt thats unlikely and you'll grow even bigger bitch tits

>>42839037
>joining the British army

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Laddies,

I just moved to Deutschland am basically clueless. I don't know many gym goers over here. I was wondering, should I ask around or just go to Greece?

>>42838997
how long should I cruise do you think before starting a short 3 week dnp cycle? And how long should I cruise after that dnp cycle ends before I pct?

>>42839107
Air force to be specific

Idk what else to do with my life. Its pretty shitty.

>>42839138
Diversity officer

>>42839138
FFL mate, if youre going to enlist at least live a little. adventure and all

>>42839125
you can run dnp on 500mg test if you want, it's not a problem, just a waste of gear. you can start the dnp as soon as you start the cruise, or even before if you want.

for the second question, depends on the duration of your dnp cycle. at 2 weeks of dnp I'd say you can using test at the end of the 3rd week.

>>42839163
>>42839164
Here's where I show my lack of intelligence and say I don't know what FLL or a diversity officer is. I'm enlisting just to move away, that's all.

Back to my original question, should I roid
1) at 18
2) while enlisted?

loosing size from not lifting. costochondritis sucks :(

>>42835253
If you start taking roids to 'feel better' you will never stop and hate yourself anyway

>>42839265
>stop
lmao

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I'm gains rick!!!

>>42839317
kys

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>>42839317

>>42836227
I do and I know CHEM does heaps more than me.

For me it helps on a cut, as i cant eat much and i generally just drink protein shakes the day after to prevent muscle wastage from no protein/food. You definitely take a hit, but it kills appetite and can help you cut a bit quicker, but if food is not correct you loose mass too.

>>42838613
Bit fucking stupid to use s a Preworkout

>>42839164
yeah enjoy scrubbing floors for 3 years and 2 years getting shot at by black people in some african republic you've never heard about, all for a whopping 22,000€ a year, and then getting sent to die forgotten in syria because letting foreigners die first for france is the french way

>>42837682
you sound like a complete faggot lol

new JM in the making

>>42838596
>>42838635
i'd love to see a source or even any anecdotal experience that chewing a certain amount of gum equals 0.5mg of arimidex a day or whatever it is you are implying.

nicotine is an aromatase inhibitor but does anyone actually have any idea of how well it works for that effect? did you really replace a specific arimidex dose with nicotine gum, and if so, how much chewed and how many mg, and if you didn't, why are you posting this implying it is possible to replace AI with nicotine gum entirely?

>>42838716
why the fuck do you think anyone cares about your gay ass mesorx board gossip, and from 2015?

>>42838716
lol damn i just read about this idiot

sadly there are many people like him, we have a few in the history of these threads as well as one recent retard trip who just announced he plans to brew gear after repeatedly posting his photos, morons like CHEM who let the world know their business and personal details, etc.

just a bunch of idiots for the pickin, everyone gets away with this shit until one day they dont

>>42833674
yes

>>42839970
Apparently you care quite a bit, you pathetic, triggered cuck.

>>42840032
>just a bunch of idiots for the pickin, everyone gets away with this shit until one day they dont
Indeed. It feels like you have to TRY to get caught with gear for the feds to step in and bust you (and lots of morons sure are trying).

>>42840243
i literally have names face pics locations saved from people over the internet who have shown illegal activity online

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Anyone here have experience with test/tren/dbol ? Trying to do a hard bulk this winter for some mad strength. Ive only done test e for the past 3 cycles and feel ready to move on.

>>42840032
pretty sure it was Nano not CHEM

>>42840647
It's both of them I was referring to. Chems identity is known by many people, down to where he lived, and he would still post about selling steroids to hells angels while on probation. Nano hasn't done anything yet but he started a nice trail making it so if he ever does start there's evidence linking it. People get too comfy

>>42840555
I'm on that exact combo and it's way better than high test meme cycles. No major sides and feel good all the time. Mind you I'm on a fraction of the dose, basically tren hormone therapy with low dose dbol before working out.

>>42840735
Ahh, i only saw Nano's thing in the last thread.
Yeah pretty sure people are way way way too comfortable with getting away with doing the wrong thing.

>>42840759
Nice bro im excited, what do your doses look like?

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>tfw just spend 1100$ on gay chink animal labs
Why is buying roids so addicting lads?

How do you keep from losing all your gains during PCT?

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>>42841008
I just did similar.
>tfw convincing yourself it's okay to spend $1300 on something some dude crafted for $30.
>tfw told wife it was only like $300
>tfw ordered 20 vials total, the amount the news made into a big deal for being in rich paninis house

>>42841130
You don't, just accept it dude. It's the nature of the drug

>tfw finally not getting quad pip anymore

>>42841130
Don't do PCT. You're going to lose gains, it's just what happens when your test crashes.

I know people hate on SARMS but a few guys I know want me to get them some online before it becomes illegal.

Where can I get ones that arent duds? so many bad reviews online for sarms1 and evo

p.s cant rip them off because one is my supervisor

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>>42841174
The worst part is i order mostly raws, atleast i can be bostin loyd now

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23

gonna be 24 in a month

too late for hgh?

i just want to top myself off maybe grow a inch or two

Has anyone used both generic GH and peptides (at different points in time)?

What did you run and how did they compare?

Is it worth paying a bit extra for GH as opposed to ipamorelin+CJC?

>>42841267
how the fuck do you spend 1300 dollars on raws as a single person

my last raws purchase was like 300 dollars and I bought a crap ton of stuff

>>42841558
I'm currently doing a test between Pharma GH and Generic GH but never tested Peptides vs GH (1IU - of pharma vs 2iu of generic)

Before bloods i know that the pharma has a different effect on me but we will see when the bloods come in.

>>42841544
More than likely.

>>42841558
Forgot to add my last line - Heard very mixed about peptides - dont waste money because you may as well buy hgh

>>42841614
>Heard very mixed about peptides - dont waste money because you may as well buy hgh
I have heard this as well, but I've also seen a few anons as well as Jerry and Chem using peps. Just trying to gather as much anecdotes as possible.

>>42841676
not all peps are bad. bpc157 for example isn't something you can really get with other compounds.

gh peptides are ass though

How retarded is this plan:

Week 1 DNP 250mg a day
Week 2 DNP 500 MG per day
Weeks 3&4 clen cycle 20mcg-100mcg pyramid up then down
Week 5 nothing
Week 6 250mg DNP with low dose clen

Will I die? Fuck my thyroid? Any suggestions? Currently on day 5 of 250mg DNP and I am one sweaty mother fucker but I've dropped a good 3-4 pounds.

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>>42841569
I said mostly and 1100, i ordered 10g of most orals, 50g of provi and 100g of phenibut. The rest is 5 vials of injectable preworkouts, melatonan 2, 100 caps DNP and 100 sterile vials because i can't get them in this shithole country

>>42838310
Your body is shit and your genetics are poverty tier. You have no business using steroids; frankly you shouldn't even lift natty, you should just off yourself.
Those side effects you quoted are less than 1:10,000 at that dose. You won the lottery of failure. Don't ever give anyone advice again.

>>42838310
>>42841782
I'm inclined to agree: sounds like you have unfortunate genetics. That is not normal.

>>42833615
God why cant we have fucking plasmids to give us a quick shortcut to muscles

I would splice that shit all day long

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>>42837180
>>42837060
I have a very clear goal physique in mind, I don't plan to regularly cycle or BnC until my 30s.

Planned cycle rn is 15 weeks 250mg test-e e3.5d and a 6 week 50mg adrol kickstarter.

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>>42837027
god damn reading shit like this keeps making me move the planned start date closer and closer.

fuck, since I don't want to drink while on orals, maybe I'll just plan to start during winter break. tempting as fuck brahs

lmao@ this salty nigga trying to shit on everyone and give bad advice because of his shit genetics. probably a manlet too.

>>42841614
Why would you give advice on something you have no real experience or knowledge of? Might as well say nothing

>>42841693
Why are GH peptides ass? Have you even used them? Trying to get to the bottom of your mild retardation here

>>42842398
That chick is fuckin gross

>>42842641
because bleeding

>>42842648
They dont all cause gh bleed

>>42842398
>>42842355
Fuckin roasties

>>42842648
Surprise, you're an idiot.


To any noobs reading this: get the fuck away from these threads as far as you can before you are made to have the same retardation that abounds

>>42842641
Name one (1) reason to use ghrp over generic gh at less than a dollar/iu

>>42841200
>Don't do PCT.
How the fuck are you ever going to recover your test then?

So I'm on first cycle, 500mg test-e for 15weeks with 30mg dbol for 6 weeks. I had pre-cycle bloods done and everything was ok. Red blood cell count was a little low which was odd. Im currently at week 3.5 and the dbol is making my blood pressure rise - the highest it has been is 144/85.

I am experiencing an odd sensation in the left side of the neck where the carotid artery is. Its not painful, rather and odd tightness. Don't get any headaches or anything else. Should I be concerned? Am I about to have a stroke?

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Lads,

I scheduled a routine checkup with the doctor in a few days with the intent of getting blood work done to see if I should cycle or not. How do I go in there and get my test results without being to obvious? Just say that I'm lethargic and my strength is low?

>>42837354
might have hit a nerve or you were to nervous, you need to relax your muscle someway when taking the injection

>>42838061
cholestrol bro, eat some fish oil pills, eat better and hit a treadmill

>>42841774
are dnp pills now the customized 02 ones? cant find it anymore

>>42842992
cut the dbol for now

>>42841174
I've stashed 50+ vials and looking to get more despite having enough to blast for a solid year.

Something neat about all the stacked vials.

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How's the attached look for a first cycle?

28m, 6'4, 250lbs, approx 18% bf.

Going for a cut until 10% then bulk up. Expecting to hit bulk earlier in which case dbol would remain for 6 weeks but I'd just cancel the clen and anavar and up the test.

>>42839118
Ask the Turks/Muslim for juice.
a) they are above the law
b) they get the stuff cheaply from their home countries

Just be careful if you look white, police won't mess with them, but they will mess with you.

>>42843608
imho a little complicated for a first cycle. I would only run test and maybe an oral for your first cycle. just cut natty first, then hop on a cycle when you start bulking

>>42843742
Yeah, was tempted to cut natty but wanted to get more a head start before summer (southern hemisphere)

>>42843034
get bloodwork done privately

>>42834106
Thanks for the source mate.

>>42834855
Found the dork.

>>42833615
guys I think I got roid flu, hellish pain in my leg where I injected last time and I feel cold and shit with heater on full blast.
What do?

>>42843752
Test wont help you that much cutting. But go ahead i did it too but i am gifted and dont aromatise at all.
Also dnp has a better bang for buck than var&clen

bois, i was recently blogposting here that im disgustingly fat and still got 4 weeks of bulk left. Last 2 or 2.5 days i've literally dropped my calories by 200 and dropped 2.5 lbs in 2 days. Should i keep going like this until the end of this week and see what happens or i should bump up my calories? I would also like to point out that im not coming off test until i die.

It's my first cycle ever so im still figuring out how my body reacts.

>>42843930
>not coming off test until i die.
Then why you habe to bulk? Just cut if you think you are too fat.
You can bulk again once you are lean
And if you cut carbs you just droped water/bloat not fat

>>42843738
is this what muricans believe?

Some "known" turk just got busted with huge amounts of drugs and steroids and afaik guns too. The police raided him and knocked his door off.
The dude will stay in prison for more than a decade.
Ever seen how german police handle left wing protestors? This isnt sweden, the police are prolly the only people left in this country who arent weak little cucks.

>>42842989
Just keep injecting test you dumb motherfucker.

>>42843930
if you are not coming off, you can basically just cut all year round without losing any muscle

>>42844088
Yet you're country still can't handle one dune coon and a truck.

>>42843306
Yep

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>>42833615
Where does one buy EPO? cardiofag here

>>42843990
>Then why you habe to bulk?
because im already pinning 500mg/week and people here told me to go straight to 500mg instead of 250mg

>>42844155
>you can basically just cut all year round
but the thing is that cutting is not fun and i don't want to cut any longer than bulk

>>42844335
then stay fat

can roid flu cause insane pain in my leg (where I last injected) every step I take or when I lift my leg up? p-please respond

>>42844392
and if not what may have caused this, there was quite a lot of blood on my last injection

>>42835450
Why would you want to mate twink boipussy is for the superior man.

here

>>42845139
>>42845139
>>42845139