/fraud/ steroids general

why can we not post about src?

>just want a basic cycle of test e
>Can't find any in NZ

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Ahh body acne

>>42806402
My roid acne is completely gone ever since I quit Milk. I still eat dairy product but I stopped drinking milk, and instead I drink Almond titties. It's a huge difference.

>>42806417
I dont drink milk. I didnt have any on 600mg test 100mg drol. But 900mg test gave me bad body acne.

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>>42806295
Currently on first cycle of 500mg of test. Almost 2 months in. Plan to run it for 5 months. Plan to add 600mg of eq on top of it for the last 3 months for even better gains, pump, strength and endurance. I am probably somewhat retarded for not just sticking to test and also for doing it for 5 months (will cut it short if sides occur), but I will do it anyway. Really good gains so far, should be insane by the time I am done. Will cruise on 200mg when I am done.

>>42806402
lmao

>>42806441
>2 month "cycle"
>plan to go for 3 more
lmao

>>42806295
girls who lift are diseased in the brain

>>42806432
Zinc supp also helped, and I changed to natty soaps.

>>42806295
source?

>>42806476
low test, plz kill self my man

How do you guys feel safe using gear that comes from an UGL? What assurance do you have of quality?

Didn't see much mentioned about it in the wiki about tainted vials, contaminants and mislabelled dosages.

>>42806462
It's not a "2 month cycle", you retard. Learn to read.

I planned to do 12 weeks like all the retards say, but realized that it takes more time than that get really good results. I've already got some good results, but what I am looking for takes more time and probably some eq on top.

Last thread got archived, anyone have anything for Tren lethargy? Already got T3.

>>42806524
You don't.
On the other hand the big brands are making good money on it, why would they risk stopping when making gear is easy as fuck?

>>42806496
NO SOURCE TALK

>>42806496
Natasha Aughey

>>42806642
You could start with not taking 1g of tren or whatever you are taking. Much lower dose and you should feel a lot less lethargic.

What does /fraud/ think about Epistane? What dosages do you run it at and for how long? Share your opinions!

>>42806295
Natty 1/2/3/4 here with a question for xp'd gear users.

How good are you at spotting gear use? Can you tell by looking at people?

From lurking for years i know some common giveaways. Like abnormally low bf%, cannonball delts, perfect symmetry, acne/zits.

I refuse to believe a woman <200 lbs can DL 4pl8 without anavar.

Will a blood test while on gear get me dismissed from the military?
Eurocuck asking.

Is 65$ per 250mg Test E too much? Fuckin seems like a lot.

>>42806441
hey man
I have 1 cycle of test e for 6 months and another for 4 months under my belt. just take care of your joints and tendons because your collagen synthesis is limited and may catch up with you on such long cycles. My second cycle was cut short because my knees started bothering me. started supplementing with collagen, msm, fish oil and cissus and took about a month break (after pct of course) now I'm two weeks into 500mg test and I added deca 250mg/wk, no issues so far. good luck to you.

>>42806691
But the gains are great and it only hits me when I sit down for a longer period.

>>42806701
You can usually tell by looking, on the other hand so many people are on gear and they'll still look natty.
bf% is a great indicator if they tend to stay extremely lean for a long period.

>>42806707
Price for me is 40 bucks for 250mg 10ml so I'd say yes.

>>42806707
no, that's standard

>>42806712
Hey. Thanks for the feedback.

EQ increases collagen, so it will probably reduce my chance of me getting injured.

I've had some slight wrist pain from strength gains being so explosive (I ran dbol as a kicker), but apart from that, I've had no problems so far. I always make sure to warm up my rotator cuffs before each workout and do some good warmup sets.

>>42806712
Carefull, while Deca makes joints comfy it only masks the pain.

>>42806735
Well shit 40 is a much better deal.
Are the other types of Test cheaper?
Goal is a 10 week cycle 500mg per week. Not trying to get huge but could lean up some and need the strength gains

>>42806735
>But the gains are great and it only hits me when I sit down for a longer period.

What's the point of good gains when you're too lethargic to put it to use? You get a good body for what? To sit around and sleep all day? You should be out meeting women and having fun. Steroids should make your quality of life better, not worse. It's one thing if it's for only a short period of time (e.g sdrol making you lethargic for some weeks), but being lethargic for longer periods of time for a little more gains is stupid.

>>42806295
>roiding for this

lmao dyel

>>42806770
Stick to Test E, it's the cheapest.

>>42806773
>You get a good body for what?
That slight sliver of hope of not being a worthless genetic piece of trash. Also cosplays.

>To sit around and sleep all day?
But I feel fucking amazing when doing shit. It's when I sit down behind my pc for half an hour I get insanely sleepy

>You should be out meeting women
Are you implying I should cheat?

>>42806799
Fuck me it's the cheapest lol.
I need to leave my girl if I want to throw around 1500 for a cycle.
Thanks for the answers though

>>42806812
>1500
Are you buying fucking golden syringes?

>>42806799
>Are you implying I should cheat?

Yes. Just kidding. If you have a girlfriend, then that's great. All I am saying is, there is no need to take that much tren. You've done 1g of tren, so now you're in a mindset where you possibly can't take less and in your mind any less would mean shitty gains (it wouldn't). I get that way sometimes myself, too, it's hard to break out of that way of thinking. 1.5g of test would probably produce insane results for me, but I am not going to take that much just because it would give me better gains, that would be stupid. I am not going to look like a walking ocean and possibly grow tits for some more gains, you know.

>>42806817
Rough estimate.
250mg at 65$ a pop.
500mg a week.
10 weeks = 5,000mg
1300 just for the test
Add Clomid, nolva, Arimidex, and needles

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>>42806838

>>42806821
I've actually lowered the dose of Tren back to 600mg. Panic attacks got the better of me again.

Sorry really should have mentioned that. Still kicking down being E ester and everything.

>>42806838
Are you implying you pay 650 bucks for a 10ml vial?

>>42806845
How off is my math?

Guys should I netflix and chill with this thicc 6/10 asian chick tomorrow or go cuck this dude with his thicc 36 year old wife (im 22)

The asian chick is pretty close to me and the cuck is like 2 hours which is a pain in the ass but im white so I wont get too many chances to cuck someone. Another thing is I found these people off craigslist and would probably end up spending the night, im scared I will get raped and killed in my sleep

>>42806852
That cycle would cost me 150 bucks max.

>>42806863
Lol where did I fuck up then?

>>42806862
Do an 8 hour arm workout instead.

>>42806852
its probably $65 for a 10 mL vial at a concentration of 250 mg/mL so its 2500mg of test per vial

>>42806862
>fuck thicc asian girl
>fuck some dirty old rag while his husband mastrubates to you

Pick one.

>>42806869
Check your source, the 250mg for $65 is prob a 10ml vial. You'd only need two vials.

>>42806877
>>42806881
Omg I just fucking realized. Thanks for helping a retard guys.
Jesus that was dumb.

>>42806881
But I will be a bull and anytime someone calls me a cuck in /fraud/ I will be immune

Should I buy my gf a birthday present or more tren?

>>42806917
Your gains from Tren should be your gift to her

>>42806905
You are being enabled by some craigslist pervs, doesn't count.

Post what they look like, I'm into young thicc girls, asian is a plus. Can't imagine railing someone's beat up wife just for bragging.

>>42806917
You've had enough Tren, you told us you would be nice to her.

>>42806838
d-do you think a 250mg/ml vial of test e only has 1 ml in it?

>>42806938
It's the worlds cutest vial.

>>42806938
Yeah.... even though my source clearly states 10ml.... I got it all straightened out though.
I'm still looking at around 300 for the whole cycle but that's way cheaper than what my dumbass thought before.
Will test make me smarter?

>>42806925
I'm just bored being on cruise. My bloods are fine.

Going to stock up some more sdrol and tren and then go for another round soon.

>>42806938
ampules are a thing

>>42806970
yes and they aren't 65 dollars a pop. or vials.

>>42806964
>I'll do everything to keep her this time!
>She's my muse, my life's blood!
>Anything I tell you!
>hur dur buying more Tren fuck her.

Just wait another couple of weeks. Or just up the test for a while.

Not sure if this is "source talk", but I want to do a test cycle but the ABA will fuck my shit up if I get caught(and arrested or cited or whatever).

What is the safest way to get 'roids? I'm thinking having somebody local be an middle man, but I don't know anyone who is on gear.

>>42807034
Where are you from?
Domestic shipping should be fine.

>>42806925
cant post the wife since this is blue board. if she will let me creampie then I will fuck her if not then its the asian chick

>>42807064
Either way have fun doing so, stay safe.

i'd go for the thicc asian chick, might lead to more.

>>42807075
bitch just told me I have to wear a condom. not for that shit im getting that asian pussy. Anyone recommend some good kino that will get her wet about 30 min in?

>>42807040
I live in the US.

>>42807143
If you're in the US you're fine. Plenty of domestic and international sources.

>>42806938
I have 1ml ampules. Pharma of course. It's pretty nice being able to pop open an ampule and not having to draw the exact amount.

>>42807103
tfw the wife I'm fucking wants to come off birth control and for me to nut in her while her husband watches

>>42807456
dont, if you get her preggo and she comes after you for child support youre fucked

>>42807425
But the glass fragment will kill your gainz brah

>>42807467
I'm quite confident they won't considering how much money they make. I'm on dat tren birth control anyways lmao.

Am I weak-willed loser if I want to use DNP as a fatty? I've been cutting but I've been stalling for the past two months. Most of the fat is thighs, hips, and midsection. I look like atrany midtransition. I just want this shit gone as fast as possible.

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3 weeks left of cycle

>>42807514
If you don't have the willpower to lose weight without DNP, you'll just gain it all back afterwards. Successfully diet for another month and if you can do that without any hiccups, then add DNP to finish the job.

>>42807514
Wouldn't say you're a loser you just need some discipline. Keep at it and you'll lose weight. Just remember losing the weight is the easy part. Gaining appreciable muscle mass is hard.

>>42807547
not bad but cycles are shit. BNC for lyfe

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>>42807456
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR EVERY TIME I TRY TO KEK SOMEONE THEY TRY TO MAKE ME WEAR A CONDOM DO YOU HAVE BBC

>>42807626
actually im on the opposite end of spectrum. Asian manlet but apparently I look like the bull type

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How much can you expect to gain on a 3 month beginner cycle? Thinking Test E 400-500mg weekly and maybe some Dbol.

>>42807514
I just started DNP yesterday and the shits no joke

Only 250mg a day but I'm still a sweaty mother fucker


Can't imagine what 500mg is gonna feel like next week

>>42807621
Im legit fraud. I compete in a sport which tests

>>42807653
Depends entirely on your genetics, training, diet and sleep.

>>42807653
Quite a bit. Do 500-600/ week. And swap dbol for tbol or anadrol, depending on your goals.

Everything in the gym will start to feel lighter around week 3-4, then weeks 5-12+ you'll feel like a champ in the gym. My first cycle was 400mg test (had 0 sides that's why I said do 5-600) and my bench gained 50 pounds in 12 weeks (really 8 considering the first 4 you're just waiting for the test levels to build up) and all my other lifts skyrocketed too

>>42807674
How hungry do you feel? I've heard DNP just increases your hunger proportionally to the fat burned which I could see being problematic

>>42807679
which sport?

>>42807707
Pretty standard. I was sick all last week and I got a big appetite when I started feeling better. But that went away and didn't get much worse when I started DNP. Hard to tell when it's just 2 days in.

Watch enhanced athlete/ Tony huge's videos on DNP. He's the only one I've found on YouTube who doesn't automatically say "hurduurrrr DNP will kill you don't do it"

>>42807034
yeah join the club my dude. i have a DUI and some previous drug arrests on my record so getting caught with roids would be the end of me.

your best bet is probably to just order it directly to your house via mail and never have it in your car

>>42807775
Uhhh if you have a decent social circle you should have multiple sources. I have at least 5 friends who i can get juice off of

>>42807775
No one gives a fuck about you ordering $400 worth of reddit steroids to your house
The DEA has bigger problems to worry about

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I'm on TRT, can I just blast and cruise for life?

R/Steroidsourcetalk

Lol @ paying any more than $25 for a 10ml vial of test e.

>>42807653
you'll gain a moderate amount of muscle and strength. my advice would be to not buy too much into the hype of the whole injecting steroids thing. the effects of testosterone are very mild and more importantly very SLOW. it literally takes MONTHS to notice the effects and even then they are mild at best. just imagine yourself going through puberty again. your brain wants it to be acute due to the whole psychological effect of injecting shit but in reality it doesn't really work like that. it's slow and takes time

>>42807862

That's what it's all about.

t. on TRT as well and enjoying that sweet pharma grade test

>>42807253
Ok again, sorry if I'm edging in on source talk... but where the fuck do I begin trying to find a source?

Everyone I know is dyel.

>>42807968

I was on pharma test too but it was expensive, now I just buy test online for a third of the price

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>>42807998

>Insurance covers it so I only pay $4 for x2 1 ml vials (can't get 10ml vial due to state law regarding days supply of controlled meds)
>0.9% benzyl alcohol so almost no PIP

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bout to start a 15 week 500mg Test E cycle

what can I expect

>>42807981
>>42807909
Fuck you retards not knowing where to find a source

go buy some $15 test prop and $30 tren

>>42808042

Very noticeable gains and a load of bloating.

Make sure your PCT is in order before starting. That was my first cycle except I did it for 12 weeks and I put on 19 lbs. Enjoy.

>>42808072
I have my PCT ready from the start

I also have an AI

I'm not fat like 15% bf

Will I lean out and get cut while on test?

>>42808180
>I'm not fat like 15% bf
you're fat

>Will I lean out and get cut while on test?
no

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>>42808026
>insurance pays HIM to get swole

>>42806989
I managed to win her back on tren. It'll be fine.

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starting a cycle in 7 weeks time
400mg test e/week 1-12
50mg anavar ED 7-12

currently 200lbs 6'0 17% bf

should I keep bulking until the cycle and use it to get around 12%?

or should I start a cut now, get to around 14%, lose a bit of muscle, and recomp with the drugs?

Is it ok to take Adderall and test together?

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>>42808820
>Is it ok to take Adderall and test together?
NO! Are you fucking crazy? Do you want yo have a heart attack or something! Jfc...

>>42808841
You get a new #?

>>42808841
What if you keep your BP in check?
Is Modafinil ok?

>>42808871
it's a joke

it's fine

Growing fast on dbol and test e,i'm like a completely different person

>tfw roiding skinny :^)

>>42806417
I want to drink your almonds

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Is it better to get purple homebrewed test from china or order from a known lab? Is it all fake labels anyway? Reason I'm asking is the unofficial stuff is cheaper.

what's the fraud discord lads?

>>42806295
what do YOU think is the perfect age to juice, and when did you start juicing?

>>42809408
>perfect age
22-25
>when did you start
19

>>42809421
21 yo about to start juicing here

500 mg test e a week, 15 weeks. Should I add Dbol? I've heard it's mainly just bloat

what do you guys do to address the issue of blood clotting and gear? stories of people dying from clots just years after starting TRT.

>>42809448
>mainly just bloat

I'm 21 as well and IT'S NOT just bloat,pretty sure about that

You will be a bloatlord like myself on 500mg test/week and 50mg dbol but you will feel like a god,your upper body will hurt from growing too much

>>42809502
I am actually kind of scared to grow too fast, the people around me will get nosy. I think I'll save the Dbol for the inevitable second cycle even though I'm planning on this being a one time thing.

>>42809514
>scared to grow too fast

How the fuck are youu afraid of that man

The thing about strong androgenics like dbol is that you will grow in a completely aesthetic way,even though your genetics have to contribute to that

Your back will grow and your waist will become tiny

>>42808042
>what can I expect
everything inversely proportional to what you've been expecting

>>42808180
>I'm not fat
>15% bf
you are fat as fuck

>Will I lean out and get cut while on test?
you will get even fatter and bloated

On 500mg of test. My weight increased a lot early on (some water of course). The weird thing is, I've been losing 2kg for a little under 2 weeks and I've been weighing myself everyday. I'm eating 3800 calories and 330-350g of protein a day, which should put me at an 800 calorie surplus, so I should theoretically be gaining. Is it just my body adjusting and dropping some of the water weight? My AI usage is the same.

>>42809557
I'm not scared of the growth itself, I'm scared of the reactions of the people around me if I do it too quickly.

>>42806753
>EQ increases collagen
no it doesn't, stop spreading this.

>>42809338
More than likely your domestic sources gets their raws from the same guy.

>>42806773
this is why i take trt. the gains are barely above natty level but it's having the energy and desire to make those gains that makes it worthwhile.

i could stay small forever and still want to keep pinning

>>42809766
I'm simply worried about contaminants.

Also, should I start to do daily cardio before my cycle? I haven't done cardio in a long time, how long would I need to do it to strengthen my heart enough to be safe? Simple test e cycle.

Which is stronger for LBM gains, sdrol or dbol?

>>42809746
The lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

>>42809801
Don't order from a non-reputable source if you're worried about containiments.

I don't do cardio so I dunno.

>>42809730
Kind of same here. Gained 7 lbs in 7 days since my first ever pin so i guess it was only water. I've been gaining over 2.2 lbs per week but it slowed down in last 3 weeks.

>I've been losing 2kg for a little under 2 weeks
your weight fluctuates daily and it's hard to say if you are losing or gaining mass. I was stalling on the same weight for days and one day i was suddenly 5 lbs heavier and never got below that weight since then.

Im 12 weeks in and gained over 26 lbs. Im guessing that at least 7 lbs is water. 3 more weeks to go

>>42809849
Sdrol. You will add more mass and more strength per regular dose than dbol at a regular dose.

Plus without the estro sides.

The only thing sdrol is bad for is pumps and lethargy.

What are your guys thoughts on adderall

Anyone here use it responsibly?

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did he achieve this natty /fraud/sters of /fit/?

>>42809880
where do you even get adderall? I've found one place but it was a scammer most likely and one pill cost more than 3 vials of test

Is there any way I can get bloods done through mail? I'm stationed overseas and I'd rather not use military healthcare for them, so that seems like the best solution.

Otherwise, how risky would it be to run without bloods? I'm thinking of running just Test E for 12 weeks with Arimidex as my AI and Clomid as PCT.

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what happened to catpiss and his russian gf

>>42809890
>Does someone who gets paid for their appearance use steroids?

>>42809865
Zyzz didn't do cardio either.

>>42810002
Zyzz was also a drug addict, ate like shit, probably never did bloods, had a congenital heart defect and went to Thailand.

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>been on super clean 1800 kcal/day diet for months, 1 refeed a week (up to 2300-2500)
>fuck up and binge eat donuts and cereal all weekend
>in addition to my clean food
>probably 4000kcals/day at least
>88kg on Thursday
>weigh self this morning
>85.6kg
Tren truly is magical

will I get the typical roid look when permanently on a trt dose of test?

Anyone else have days where caffeine hits them hard as fuck, and days where it does fucking nothing? Rustles my jimmies, seems completely random too

>>42810029
I was merely jesting m8, I know zyzz acted like a retard.

>>42810044
Yeah bro Rich Piana swore by TRT and never touched any of the other shit

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My bro is trying to get me to do a round of superdrol with him, thoughts? good or bad, he made a lot of gains off it but this would be my first time.

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How do you feel on cycle? Do you feel indestructible? Do you feel like a god?

>>42810053
I don't know why Australians love Thailand so much. It's such a fucking shit hole.

Shitty government. Shitty police. Shitty people. Over priced. Unclean. Can't drink the water. Our natural beauty is infinitely better.

>>42810076
>oral only

Yeah don't your friend is dumb.

>>42806476
all women are fucked in the head mate

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>>42806707

>65$ per 250mgs

LMFAO

I pay $8 per 250mgs of Sustanon, pharma grade, the good shit.

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>>42810082

of course. as long as your E2 and other levels are in check having HIGH test feels great.

Was planning on running HMG during a cycle at ~1000iu a week, but i cant find any. So if i change that up for HCG what dose a week should i be looking at?

Is Aromasin enough for PCT after a 15 week test e cycle?

Daily reminder...

HGH is a meme siphoning money out of your pocket for no gains.

Inb4 "but muh nails and skin"

>>42810239
Guess all those dwarves just got meme'd.

>>42810257
You post a lot.

>>42810267
I don't post enough.

>>42810178
250IU 3x a week.

>>42810270
That's a devastating miscalculation.

>>42810298
It's all relative.

>>42810285
Perfect that's what i imagined, i saw some higher recommended but also that it can cause damage doing so.

>http://www.ergo-log.com/decacycle.html
>http://www.ergo-log.com/nandrotest.html
>http://www.ergo-log.com/decageneticdamage.html
>http://www.ergo-log.com/dumber-by-deca.html
>http://www.ergo-log.com/recoveryfromadecacourse.html

Why do people still use Deca? Are they not aware of this information?

>>42810226
pls reply

>>42810401
that aint pct bro, its on cycle

>>42810088
Granted the last time i was in thailand is about 10years ago. But back then i wouldnt call it overpriced by any stretch.

I thought you australiens have retarded high incomes. Friend of mine backpacked/worked there as a cook and made 5k each month

>>42810419
>Friend of mine backpacked/worked there as a cook and made 5k each month
fruit picking maybe, not as a chef fuck no, unless he was a legit michelin type chef

>>42810082
I was feeling like total shit before i started gear and i feel the same on gear.

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>>42810542

>>42810542
injecting saline i see

If you PCT after a test only cycle with nolvadex, how long will it take you to get back to pre-cycle test levels?

How bad is Test/Dbol bloat?

Any way to make drawing and pinning easier? I'm just using test E. Would warming up the vial help?

Yesterday I bent the needle in my butt cheek trying to get the plunger down.

>>42810564
have you ever injected test? why would you even think that it affects your brain in any way?

>>42810144
>sustanon
>good shit

haha good joke

>>42810400
don't most other steroids cause similar things?
only reason all these are for deca is because it is studied more?

>>42810698
>have you ever injected test?
yes, you haven't

my testosterone levels are 290 ng / dl
self medicating clomid 50 mg every other day from on now
will using it 6-7 weeks bring back my test levels permamently?

are steroid test kits a meme?

Cutting on 200-250mg test/week

>It is recommended to keep your caloric intake at no less than 80% TDEE.
Most people say that test allows you to cut calories hard which means faster results while maintaining muscle mass. Why wiki says you shouldn't go lower?

>>42806712
hey man, I am on my 3rd week of 500mg test e/week.
its my first cycle and out of nowhere my knees started bothering me, I haven't even squatted in 2 weeks.
Is it the roids?

>>42810777
Do you know your lh/fsh?
Unless those are low too it wont help
>>42810428
Well he did a lot overtime and probably not registered but whatever.
Whats the normal salary down under?

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Does everybody always feel really tired/hungry after taking MK677?

I don't get it much if at all, though I did keep it in my mouth for a few seconds the first time I tried it and my jaw ached for 3 days.

>>42810400
This is interesting as fuck to me, taken from the article about deca dumbing down rats:

"We just wonder though whether the experiment was well thought up. Under normal conditions rats can't stand water. That dislike of water is crucial to the proof provided in this study. But what if the nandrolone actually reduced the rats' aversion to water?
It's not impossible that this is the case. We know from animal studies that androgens reduce pain stimuli and make lab animals less fussy about food with a different taste. So maybe androgens reduce rats' fear of water too"

I have ALWAYS had a fear of water over my head. I'm a good swimmer, it's just an irrational fear. My mom has it too. I jump in a lake and I immediately start thinking about all the shit swimming underneath me and wanna GTFO that water quick as fuck. It's always been kind of pathetic, but whatever I'm not around water that much anyways. Like I said I can swim in a pool just fine.

But this summer, over the 4th of July weekend I was on test and tren and I went to my buddy's cottage. I jumped in his lake and felt not even the slightest hint of my phobia. Swam around just fine, it was miraculous and the only thing I could think of at the time was the tren giving me the confidence to be like "fuck your gay ass phobia" and allow me to enjoy myself in the water

>>42806395
what do you mean you can't find any? Did you search the darknet?
I just did a search and found 17 sellers from NZ to NZ (customs etc) and I got test-e, test-d, test-c, anavar etc.

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After six months, 80 percent of the athletes still showed up positive when they did a doping test. After the six months, the researchers lost track of most of their subjects. After a year, the researchers only had data on four of the test subjects, but of those half still tested positive.

>>42811945
>>42810400
>http://www.ergo-log.com/recoveryfromadecacourse.html

>>42811707
Lol

>>42810752
Test doesn't do shit mentally. It's all
Reddit tier placebo

First cycle is 500mg test-e/w, 25mg dbol/d, hCG 500iu/week.

What should I expect?

>>42812038
mad gains and your ex girlfriend/boyfriend will come back
so will your dead childhood pet

>>42810333
Too much HCG also brings lots of unmanageable e2.

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Is there any downside to taking HGH? Can it still make you grow when you are an adult?

There was this toxic kid almost 2 years older than me, the child of a lawyer and doctor. I beat him up when I was 8. He was a turbomanlet. Anyway, they gave his younger brother HGH to prevent him from becoming a manlet and now he is a lanket, almost 2m tall.

I am 183 / 6'0 but wouldn't mind growing a tiny bit because I stopped growing at age 15, 8 years ago.

Thoughts famalams?

>>42812038
>What should I expect?
bloat

>>42811603
common side effect is increased appetite and lethargy, due to increased GH levels

>>42812209
It's expensive as fuck, you're probably gonna get your hands on underdosed/bunk shit, your intestines are gonna grow and you'll get the sweet Lenny look

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>>42812262
That lanket brother looks like a twig though. I used to see him at the gym (with his mom LOL).

>Blast has finally cleared my system
>Gone from 125mg Test E e3d + 250mg Tren E e3d to 75mg Test only
>Feel weak af in the gym now and am losing motivation because of how weak I feel compared to what I felt on my blast

I've got another 8-12 weeks before I can blast again if I follow the 1:1 ratio of blast:cruise.

kill me

>>42812315
>if I follow the 1:1 ratio


Haha you're new aren't you

>>42812245
How bad bloat

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>mfw r/steroids monthly progress thread

>>42812405
pretty bad bloat

>>42812417
this scares me
will I look fat

>>42812406
It's like they don't progress at all wtf.

>>42812543

That's what makes it so good. All this tren and superdrol, and they don't even look more than natty.

Then there's like two or three guys who are HUGE, and I have no idea why they bother to go in there.

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>>42812623
>Then there's like two or three guys who are HUGE
So what you are saying is that they are ... big guys?

>>42812623
>>42812406
What are they doing wrong to stagnate?

>>42812663

Yes, they are big guys.

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>>42812686
For you.

>>42812690

that's a big jenga block

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>>42812700
FOR YOU.

>>42812679

They're using the drugs as a crutch to compensate for their incompetence or laziness with eating and training.

Some don't train hard enough or with the right consistency, but most of them just don't eat enough to gain weight. It doesn't matter how hard you train or how much gear you're on, you won't gain any significant muscle if you don't eat properly.

>>42812709
Yeah diet is like everything when roiding.
Imo, calculating macros while on gear is hard, at least for me.
Scared of eating too little no matter what I do. Especially protein and energy

>>42812527
>will I look fat
Yes. This is what dbol does. Im pretty bloated from test e by itself. You will gain strength from dbol so it's up to you to decide if the strength gains are worth the temporary bloat.

>>42812719
>Scared of eating too little no matter what I do.
this got me fat

How do I deal with all of the protein farts from eating enough protein for ideal deca gains? My digestion doesn't seem to like it when I eat a lot of protein.

>>42812709
What does eating properly mean. I am quite big and still "thin" but I am pretty sure I have above 15% bf nevertheless. Not making that much progress myself in recent years but eating more will just make me fat.

>>42812829
>read sticky
>learn to diet
>grow in a healthy and progressive way.

will test/steroids make my face more manly?

t. guy with boyish face who cant grow facial hair

>>42812820
>How do I deal with all of the protein farts from eating enough protein for ideal deca gains? My digestion doesn't seem to like it when I eat a lot of protein.

Cock your leg while farting and use your hand to scoop it up to your face to get a good smell of it

>>42812719

It's funny, because diet can be really simple, but it's the primary failing point for most people.

Look at MasT, for example. His diet plan is basically just, "eat protein at every meal, increase carbs when bulking, decrease carbs when cutting." Simple. And he looks great.

Then you look at the r/steroids threads, and all they're thinking about is the best mixture of drugs to get YUGE. They never mention that they're only eating 1800 calories of pop tarts and protein powder every day, or that they've never weighed more than 170 pounds.

>>42812829

Eating properly, meaning:

- getting enough protein from "complete" sources, i.e. meat and animal products like eggs and milk (whey does count as a "complete" protein, but it isn't quite as valuable as actual food in most cases, because it's exclusively the protein and doesn't have much for micronutrients)
- getting enough calories to gain weight while blasting (if you only gain five pounds on a twenty-week blast that involves insulin, you fucked up BIGTIME [COUGH COUGH REDDIT])
- taking care of your other macronutrients (i.e. eating the right amount of carbs and fats, ideally with the right timing)
- keeping up with micronutrients and fiber and stuff (eat your veggies, take a multi, etc.)

It's not super complicated, but most people don't do all of these things.

>>42812963
Make sure you actually lift too..
>mfw people bench press the empty bar up to maybe 45kg and then cry over how small they are

>>42806441
hows the hair loss?

>>42812998
No changes to hairline. No hair loss.

>>42812993

>"I don't understand, I've been doing my 3x10 curls with 25 pound dumbbells twice a week for MONTHS, and I haven't gotten bigger!"

>>42812991
Ahhh okay so only the basics. Yeah that I do of course.

>>42812963
>le stickey
I looked at the sticky probably before you even knew what 4chan is and it only has some boring nothingness in it.

>>42812993
btw, how much weight and what rep/set range you guys use for benching?

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was getting horrible acne on TrT so I have gone back to the natty realm, goodbye gains, goodbye bros

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>>42813222

>>42813222
>Dosen't want to look like a swole agent orange victim
NEVER
GONNA
MAKE
IT

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4 months clean

THICC

See ya in the funny papers nerds!

>>42813691
Looking good bb, what are you blasting?

does anyone know what amounts of mast and test that chem recommends for a cruise again I forget thanks in advance

>>42813715
Random varying amounts of test tren and EQ at random intervals to confuse the muscles

>>42813792
Noice

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Tasty

>>42814277

Why did you put Nutella on naan?

When is the best time to take dbol?
I gotta take 2 daily.

>>42814401
Maybe they're pancakes?

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Is 250 Test E/250 Tren E a good bulking cycle? It's gonna be my first time using Tren and I'm not sure what dosage to go with.

Currently on var / sust / equipoise
(week 11)

So, anyone here has used equipoise before? I read that equi gains come late in the cycle. Recently I've been gaining weight without a change in my diet and I am almost certain that it is equipoise gains.

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im going to bed bois

>>42807653
Domen go to sleep

>>42815136
Goodnight! Love you!

>>42806402
how does one atain this body?

Also diet?

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>>42815689

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>>42815689
>>42815720
>Juicing for this

Should HCG be started day 1 of test or a couple of weeks in?

>>42816148
Also with expiry dates can i order 15 weeks of test e, HCG and aromasin at the start and be good until the end?

>>42815689
>tfw I look like the guy on the left and I'm natty
feels good, gives me confidence that I can look like I roid if I just up my kcals and hop on sum o dat test

So when I hop on gear I should just eat whenever Im hungry and get plenty of protein and Ill be good, right?

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>>42812406
>>42815689
>>42815720
>>42815755

>the mods had to go in to stop the shitflinging between the scrawny weaklings

>>42816286
>eat whenever I'm hungry
if that means you'll eat 4000 kcal, yes. otherwise you'll end up looking like those redditfags

>>42816184
Yes, just use get several 2500 IU or lower vials/ampules of HCG and reconstitute using BAC water as needed.

>>42815689
>>42815720

Those results would be shit for a natty. What is going on here?

Do they like not even train?

>>42816302
I literally cannot find 2500iu amps or vials anywhere. I made such a comprehensive plan for this all and finding anyway trustworthy to order from is a massive pain.

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Starting cycle 2 soon, and I'm really wanting to hop into the world of tren for an intense bulk and because it's the go to for strength/power. What should i run? Just test/tren? Or should i add deca or dbol?
First cycle was just 500 test e a week as recommended by most.
And I know, i always see people say "save tren for later cycles", but then i read how everyone wishes they did it earlier. Seems like no purpose in putting it off.

>>42816385
I regret ever using tren.

How obvious is it when you have nipple sensitivity or gyno symptoms? I don't physically see anything but I've been feeling a weird sensation kind of deep down in the pec/breast region and I'm wondering if it's related.

>>42816398
Whys that?

>>42816367
From what I've read 3 months in the fridge is fine if you use bac water. You can wait a month or even two easily after starting.

>>42816398
Physical or mental regrets?

Are steroids even worth it?
they look like a meme to me

>>42806295
So im just curious and want to know

What is tren, deca, dbol and test?

Are those steroids?
Are there more steroids?

>>42816447
If it's in a vial can i just take 2,500 iu out of a 5,000iu vial, reconstitute that, and then the rest will keep longer?

Can I use tren instead of test for trt

>>42806295
Is test only worth it?

>>42816500
It'll come as powder or a little solidified cake, its physically possible but it would be hell to keep the dose right and extract while keeping it sterile.

Also once you open up the ampule it won't be sterile so you risk losing it even faster.

If you are really desperate to keep it longer I would preload a bunch of slin pins and freeze them, move one to the fridge ahead a day every time.
You don't want to refreeze it though.

>>42816522
kek

Tren doesn't aromatize, I think some people have used deca for that purpose with a certain degree of success though.

>>42806644
Is it source talk if I ask where can I talk about sources?

>>42806441
I would extend the blast another few weeks if your bloods aren't totally trashed. Specifically because EQ takes forever to really give you benefit, frontloading or not This isn't high tren and sdrol, your body can handle a longer blast on moderate test and eq.

>>42816297
>4000kcal
wait what

>>42816489
Yes, those are common steroids. There are a million more exotic compounds out there but it's best to not experiment with unstudied shit. Testosterone is kind of the most common "base" steroid so to speak, its very mild. Compounds like trenbolone are very harsh. Deca is overrated. Dbol is pointless but redditors like it

>>42816671
Gotta eat big to get big
I can eat up to 8k when i just go by hunger.
Makes cutting the worst and hardest thing in my life

>>42816714
How much protein do you get a day.
Also, where are you getting the 4000kcal number from?

>>42813222
Surely there are ways to get rid of the acne without stopping?

>>42816752
300g protein
Dont know wasnt me who pointed out 4k
But i am 190cm 105kg and my maintenance is at 3,4 so 4k sounded good

>>42816385
If you're going to use tren on a bulk, just take ~200mg a week for the nutrient partitioning/tren "look".

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Jesus christ that fucking Reddit progress.

See the nigger, thinking to myself that it aint to bad for a few cycles
>3 years
Fuck the what.

Pls don't tell me I'm Reddit tier.
I really hope I'm not Reddit tier...

>>42816925
are you roiding? you look mediocre as fuck
and why do you trip? if you want to circlejerk go to reddit

>>42816944
I am, I am and I'm a special snowflake looking for attention.

>>42816522
yes it works great

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>>42816925
Keep working its alright
Why do i have to be fat as fuck, still on a cut so i can finaly blast.
And i need a selfie seminar lol

>>42816956
thanks for being honest. now eat more faggot, stop wasting your gear.

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>>42817029

>>42817034
I do eat on blasts, look like shit but at least something happens.
Its the one thing I love about Tren, it makes you look at least decent when having thay layer of fat.

>>42817060
Lel

>>42816593
Reddit sst talks about it. Though half the vendors are always out of stock.

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Is this kid on tren??? He's really lean and dry.

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>>42817252
Could be his brother.
Creepy as fuck, but to amswer your question. He is probably on a ton of shit but looks like shit cause he has no idea what the fuck he is doing but thinks he is the hot shit therfore that gay ass facial expression and pose

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I'm a little over halfway on my DNP hard cut (1600-1700 cals per day, high protein, medium fat, low carb) running along with Test E @ 250mg/week cruise.

First 3 days I did 200mg, bumped up to 400mg for the other 9, and now bumped up to 600mg as of today until I run out of DNP, which should be a 3 week cycle. So far lost 14lbs (a lot of it was water of course) and look a lot leaner.

My question is about diet. How long should I maintain my deficit for after coming off the DNP to prevent rebound? I feel like the general consensus is for about a week then start bumping up carbs by 50g per week into a lean bulk.

Thanks in advance guys

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>>42816925
Oof

>>42815689
epitome of reddit and fraud

Just remember when you're taking advice from anon's on the internet this is what they look like.

>>42806295
Can someone on gear drop a kik I need to talk about something to you. Need vials too
Batmanisforever

>anons itt talking so much shit but only the tripfags have posted any pics

Huh. I wonder why anon wouldn't show off his amazing aesthetic physique.

Probably because the anons talking shit are just as bad.

(Note: this poster looks like shit and acknowledges his failings)

What sides did you anons get on tren?

>>42806705
I don't know how extensive the test is but more than likely they are just testing for common narcotics, not doing a blood/hormone panel

>>42811168
Are you running an ai?

Is it true that roiding during formative years can be particularly damaging to one's body?(aka under 25)

>>42818121
Honestly I went into it expecting the mental sides to be extremely mild and was absolutely bowled over by 600mg/week over 2.5months.

Developed a huge oneitis, got extremely pissed at myself for it. Decided that instead of just getting over it, like a normal person, I should instead order a fuckton of amphetamine and mdma off the darknet and deal to her friends to try and get into the social circle.

Well it worked in a way, in that I had sold/consumed like 10ish g of each before extremely impulsive decisions led me to getting robbed by some literal jungle monkey nigger at gunpoint for ~$675 and the shit I had left, maybe 3g mdma and 6.5g d-amph.

Honestly not even worth it. Dries you out, especially in the face, makes you veiny and red, sweat a lot when you eat/in general. But holy shit I made actual crazy person decisions.

So I started my DBol a week early, I start my test E in 2 days. I'm wondering because im running Aromasin 12.5mg 2x daily, how much estrogen do I need to benefit from DBOL? Is water weight the only big benefit? I know people say the strength comes from estrogen or soemthing, so I'm not sure if the aromasin is inhibiting it or not. I definitely have some estrogen b/c under this dosage I'll start to feel it a bit in the nips so I have to take the second dose so far every day. Also why is my dick still getting hard, its coming up on day 4 and I have a normal sex drive. Weight has gone up a few lbs though nd definition oddly enbough seems better. Water isnt coming on due to aromasin i think. Ugh its weird trying to find that balance.

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We doing CBs now? Have this bloated mess lmao

>>42818121
None except the occasional heartburn but I don't blast over 400mg/week

>>42806530
You are the retard here
Google myostatin
20 week test e cycle is a fucking waste

>>42818318
what's up with the oil

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going from >>42818318
to this in like 2-3 months. I really need to start cutting down too but I'm so comfy with all these carbs and shiet. I cut down on the BnJ and pizza though.

>>42818329
It's sweat. Gym was closed on labor day so I had to do a little bodyweight routine at home.

>>42818339
Oh and I meant I went from decent shape to bloated in 2-3 months. Gained about 25lbs maybe? I was hungover in this so maybe that made me look drier

>>42806530
He's probably confused because you used the term cycle instead of blast. Either way, he should learn to read

>>42818121
Mostly depression and sweating.

>>42806402
>roiding for this

>>42818206
Yes

>>42818406
Wew that was pretty late. You're a good 280+ posts behind on that one, bud.

>>42818247
This sounds right. Tren basically made all the episodes reruns.

>it's another bimbo fucks his ex episode

new

>>42818537
>>42818537
>>42818537

>>42816398
Becuz u a fag.

Tren is great.