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>23 years old >Only had sex with one girl in my entire

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>23 years old
>Only had sex with one girl in my entire life
>She was unattractive and I regret it
>Tonnes of 18-20 years old on /fit/ say they've had sex with "several" women

How
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Not having self-imposed autism helps.
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>>42802799

Stop making sex the goal. Start making relationships with girls the goal. Not just romantic ones, but friendships as well. The more time you spend with women, as friends or as more than, the more likely you are to get laid. Once you get good enough you'll be able to make sex the goal. In the ideal situation, you have a healthy mix of FWBs as well as still able to go out with the boys and go home with randos.

If you're unattractive, try being attractive.
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>>42802799
Just Be Goodlooking theory. The looks pill is brutal.
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>>42802843
I literally have tonnes of female friends and I never get laid.
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>>42802799
There's like 4 billion women on the planet, go talk to one that's less unattractive
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>caring about this type of petty shit in 2017
>not just hanging back and watching society implode under the casual sex hook up culture we have
Can't wait for all the middle aged childless stacies to start committing mass suicide.
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>>42802856
Have you tried?
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>>42802882
Non-meme what I imagine guys like you looks like.
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>>42802856
you're probably unattractive. try being attractive.
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Nobody actually gets that much sex. It's all an illusion, not real, 100% fake. Everybody is lying, everybody is making themselves appear to be sex gods.

It's just like people putting out this fake bullshit story of their life to appear better/more valuable than they actually are. Its 100% a facade.


I remember one time a guy telling me he never masturbates because he gets so much sex, he was some fat ugly arab manlet, but he still thought he could get away with his bullshitting to that extreme.


You'll find that most people are actually virgins, everyone just lies to avoid the shame.
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>>42802904
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nah you're probably right
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>>42802799
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Like someone else said, don't make sex the goal.
I'm 21, had sex with 4 women and i'm only like a 6.5
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>>42802904
We come in all shapes and sizes anon. We simply checked out of society because there is no point. The 80/20 meme is real and at this point its just funner to watch the world burn.
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>>42802799
>How

By being mildly interesting, and not seeming desperate. Desperation makes women feel like any affection they would show you would be construed as a promise for further commitment. Whereas if you're interesting and independent and have shit going on, you make the woman feel like, hey, if he shows me a good time he might get some. It is literally that easy. Women like confidence. Not overcompensation.
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>>42802937
Why not acquire power?
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>>42802912
Not to derail because we should focus on what OP is doing wrong but it's very possible to pull that off. I'm not saying everyone does 24/7 for their whole life though. It comes and goes.

I'm not a "chad" type by any means, decently tall at 6' and /fit/ter than your average goob but still 22% bf, nor am I the alpha-douche personality type but I've still managed to have anywhere from one to four girls willing to hang out and have sex any given week. Sometimes I don't. Right now I just moved so I've been cranking the shaft until I get my feet wet in this area. Two months ago I had a fwb coming over most nights. In two months maybe I will, maybe I won't. I don't know who you've been talking to but most people are not lying.
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>tfw every girl you know always tells you how funny and smart you are
>tfw everyone says you're an amazing friend, you're a great guy etc
>Can talk to anybody for hours about anything
>Have lots of friends
>24 years old, never been in a relationship, last time I had sex was a year ago and the girl was a 5/10 at best

Everything is a meme. Nothing matters if you're /ugly/.

You can literally be the most vapid, boring piece of shit on the planet, but if you have good hair and a nice face you can fuck any girl you want.
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>>42803026
How???
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>>42803036
>has lots of friends
>has had regular sex at once point
>boo hoo woe is me
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>>42803052
>has had regular sex at once point
What in the fuck made you think that?
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>>42802912
Sorry to burst your bubble of self-affirmation but people everywhere are fucking. I'm a 5'7 and 150lb "manlet" as you here like to say but i've got a strong jaw, wide eyes, and prominent cheekbones and i've been with 11 women so far, only cut short because i've been faithful to one for the past four years. And that's not counting the dozen others whose mouths i've been in. It's not hard to get laid. If you're in the rave scene, be the one who has the drugs or connections. If you're in high school, be the one with the car. If you're in college, be the one with your own apartment. If you're in a crowd full of dudes, be the one who's the least desperate.
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>>42802916
>GNU
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>>42802799
It's pretty easy to say you've had sex with a bunch of girls on the internet anonymously
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>>42803218
It's pretty easy to figure out who's a virgin by the way they talk about their sexual experiences.
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>>42802799
On the same boat, minus the regret.
My "excuse" is that I'm a sad neet miles away from any possible social interaction.
Currently finding a job to rent my own place and make some big changes.
Thing is I've never been shy or autistic, I just didn't give a fuck for many years after being dumped.
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>>42803129
I literally do not believe you've been with 11 girls plus "dozens" of random blowjobs. Especially since most women don't even give blowjobs unless you're their boyfriend. I don't believe you just randomly meet women and they suck your dick
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>>42802799
I was a virgin til 19.
I had sex with 7 women and 3 dudes by 21.
>no homo
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>>42803263
It wasn't random at all. Most of that was in high school and those were friends of friends of friends. I was the skinny guitar guy. I literally didn't have to do anything other than return the favor now and then.
I understand that "why would I lie to you on the internet" has no meaning because people do in fact do that, but you people thinking it's so unlikely to be fucked often is really just a confession of your own failure and says nothing about the way the world really is. The truth is, people are fucking. Especially younger girls are all down to fuck, they just have to feel like it's socially acceptable according to whatever moral hurdles they've put around themselves.
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>>42802799
>virgin until 21
>be in a relationship with a girl for 2 years
>only girl I ever fucked
>soon to be 29
It was easier before I knew how good it is.
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>>42803050

>>42803129
>be the one who's the least desperate
is very good advice but primarily it depends on what part of the process you're having trouble with. Like do you not meet girls or do you keep just becoming really good friends with them or are you fuck ugly or what
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>>42803313
I'm good friends with every girl I know.

I think it's because I'm ugly.
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>>42803263
you're supposed to pretend like you're dating them until they blow you or put out, then you stop calling them
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>>42803313
It helps to surround yourself with a party scene. At a rave, at a club, at a bar, women are down. At the gym, at the store, at work, women have shit to do. Any bites you get there come with relationship expectations.
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>>42802912
>there are people who actually believe this
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>>42802856
Probably because you're some beta cucks, the only people I know with female friends are the ones NOT getting laid, if a girl is your friend and she's not one of your friend's girlfriends or your girlfriend then you're probably not seen as a sexually viable man to women.

Try not being a lil bitch all the time see where that gets you
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>>42803263
"Dozen"
Singular dozen.
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>>42803263
lmao

It's 2017. Teenagers give anal on the first date.
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>>42802799
just party with friends and its bound to happen, unless youre very insecure or very ugly.
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>>42803263
I don't even know how to prove anything to you but he's fucking right. Like, it happens. People go out, meet people, and have sex after. I'm a pretty average looking doofus and I'm on 15 girls (only 5 of those relationships anywhere from 4-10 months) not including the blowjobs from people I didn't ever have sex with. But I'm sure you won't believe me so why did I bother
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>>42803361
I have female friends but when I think about it I've fucked all of them.
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>>42803331
Might just be going about it the wrong way. There's a distinct difference between treating someone as a friend and making it clear that you're attracted to them. You might just be bad at making that clear. I've got a buddy who is that way. He's very good at becoming super good friends by accident when he wants to create sexual attraction. You do have to make an effort towards that goal, being friendly is a component but its different, and I'm not really sure how to describe the process
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>>42803406
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>>42803392
Literally how though
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>>42803443
Do you not talk to/meet enough girls or do you become friends only with them and can't escape the /zone/?
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>>42803481
I meet a lot of girls, none of them seem interested in me though.

Like the other day, I randomly met a girl I sorta knew, we chatted for 5 minutes, I was like "Let's go get some coffee", she agreed, we sat there talking for like an hour and a half and then she was like "I gotta go do x".

I mean, if she was interested, wouldn't she lose track of time, or want to talk to me for as long as possible? Plus wouldn't her body language show it? Her body language was kind of distant - leaning away, no physical contact etc.
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>>42802799
>I've had sex before and try not to judge me but I'm fucked up

>Be me
>Had my dick sucked and sex from the age of 10-13
>Two older women who were supposed to be watching me
>They had a 15 year old dauther
>She was involved as well
>Those were my only sexual interactions
>I'm now 31 years old
>No gf, no wife
>My sexual fantasies consist of older milf type women
>I get off to incest and milf type porn
>I'm not even attracted to chicks my own age
>I love milfs, and i'm 31 with no sexual life since I was very young
>I usually never talk about it, but here it goes
>Have a look at the circus clown
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>>42803548
>I'm not even attracted to chicks my own age
Not strange. Nobody is attracted to 30+ year old women.
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>>42802799

I fucked over a hundred women before I hit 25. Never caught anything, including feels. The secret is to be a good looking alcoholic with low standards when you're drunk.
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my mates nephew got a blowjob from 2 of my female friends at the same time

I'm literally taller, more attractive, manlier than him idk even how

but tbf those same thots are flirting with me atm so idk
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>>42803517
Hard to say. I generally say try not to overanalyze body language that way or expect them to lose track of time and be lost in the glorious epitome of man that you are. Grills are fucking insane and do continue to surprise me still. If you can do that you're a more confident man than me though so props, I've never asked a girl after 5 minutes for coffee.

Could be she legitimately had to go do something seeing as that sounds like a spur of the moment date. I've only ever had planned dates. Could be you need to adjust what you were talking about/how much talking you were doing versus her. As cliche as it is most of them do like to talk a lot.
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Here we go:

1. Be as attractive as possible. That means get a fucking haircut. Style your hair. Bathe and wash your face. Shave or trim your trashy beard. Shave you unibrow. Go to the mall and spend at least $150 on new well fitting pants, shirts, and shoes. And yes, get /fit. If you're at least a 5/10 objectively, then you can become significantly more attractive by following these steps. Believe it or not, most ugly guys just don't give a shit about their appearance and they don't even do basic things like wear pants that fit right.

2. Be happy. Do interesting shit. Get good grades, get a promotion, make that career switch you always wanted. Take up a hobby. Learn an instrument, or a language. Join a basketball or ultimate league or a climbing gym. Keep lifting. Keep making yourself better and keep chasing your dreams. This makes you attractive because you're not spending you're time relying on women to make you happy. A relationship (or hook up) is not about making you happy. It's about sharing your happiness with someone else. It's about inviting hem to your world that is already filled with fun and excitement. Women have their own problems to deal with, making you happy is not something they want to add to their list.

3. Go fishing. Every interaction is an opportunity to cast your bait. You've fixed your appearance and your personality, that's your bait. Now throw it out there and see what bites. If you're in line at the grocery store and some girl is behind you, say something! "So you like bread too?" Yeah, be cheeky. She may be uninterested, or she may like your bait a lot, so open your mouth and speak! Ask the cashier how her day is going. Ask a girl at the gym if you can get a warm up set in or for a spot (don't try to hit a PR lol). Ask the girl at the bar what she's drinking because it looks good and you want one. You don't need crazy lines or perfect words. Just say something, and see how she reacts.
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>>42802799
Get fooking yolked, buddy. Ez
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>>42803630
>If you're in line at the grocery store and some girl is behind you, say something! "So you like bread too?"
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>>42803548
damn dude, theres no problem in that. just go for some milfs if thats what you like
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>>42803630

4. Notice and examine your catch. Every once in a while, a girl will bite on your bait. Maybe she's looking into your eyes too long. Maybe she's smiling too much, laughing too much, or touching too much. Learn to recognize these signs. When you do recognize them, don't switch into needy mode. That's bad. You've got a catch, but remember, YOU'RE THE PRIZE. You worked long and hard to be attractive, you're not gong to settle for the first semi cute chick who smiles at you. Ask her some questions. Let her speak. Get to know her a little. Let her impress you. Then decide if she's worth it or not. If she is, then go for it.

5. Go for it. This is a critical step. This is the difference between getting friendzoned and getting laid. Do not try the "lets be friends first" method. Hot girls with 20 orbiters at any given time don't fuck their friends. They want the new exciting guy in their life to be the fucking man, so act like it. Ask her out. Have a place, day, and time all planned out before you ask. "Hey I want to go to X at Y on Z to do XYZ. Wanna join?" Take her out. Have fun. Slowly escalate your physicality. None of that kiss her at the door crap.
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>>42803652
It doesn't matter at all what you say. You could say "hi I'm X" and all that's going to matter is if she thinks your physically attractive and if you carry yourself well. But you won't know those things until you open your mouth and say something. Alternatively, you can just date Lisa, that homely daughter of your moms coworker. I hear she makes a mean banana bread and has only had sex with one guy in college. You'll always wonder what might have happens if you'd just opened your mouth to say something to that girl at the bar, but at least you won't be alone.
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>>42803548
That's hot anon
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>>42802799
>having a girl over tomorrow
should I hide all my figures and take down my anime posters?
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I've been lifting for 7 years and am still a kissless virgin. To be fair, I've never approached a woman and don't have any female friends (not many friends at all to be quite honest with you). Just autismo I guess, catch plenty of them mirin' though
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I'm 20 and I've had sex with 16 women.

Girls will come onto you if they're interested. Sometimes you have to go for them, most times not. I'm sorry, but it's really about how attractive you are.
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>>42803690

Bonus:

Don't worry about getting friendzoned. The friendzone is the place where your hot friends introduce you to their other hot girl friends. There's nothing wrong with walking into a club with 4 hot women surrounding you, especially if they're all platonic friends. Every girl who notices will wonder why so many girls want to be around you and it will give you an edge of you learn how to speak up and make moves. Don't ruin your potential friendships because you don't like being rejected and don't make awkward moves in girls who have been your friend for years. Handle rejection with grace and accept your place in their life, because there's plenty of girls to go around.
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>>42803423
Idk what's a prototype conversation for you when you're trying to get laid?
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>>42803764
lad I'm >>42803759
I've unironically had modeling gigs before and I'm 6'4" with big frame. It isn't all, autismo prevails if you're not social. You are probably well connected within your social group and go out often.
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>only had sex with one girl ever
>was my first gf
>now my wife
> we swapped v cards

I don't know how I'm supposed to feel
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>>42803764
Hardly anybody is attractive enough a 8-10/10 girl I approach them. Women aren't good at approaching anyways, and the hotter the are the more they've been approached in their lives. They're not worried about finding a guy because plenty of Brads approach them every night. Chad might be in the same position as Stacy, but for the other 99.9% of guys, you'll want to learn to just fucking talk to people. You don't need to be Chad to have a sexy girlfriend, but you do have to take initiative.
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>>42803756
The fact that you thought about this shows your growth as a human being. The answer is yes. Put it all in a box and hide it away. That was your old life anon.
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>>42803764
Literally this. Nothing else matters.

I honestly have no idea what you guys are even talking about in this thread. If you don't get laid consitently - you're just not attractive. Every single girl I've ever fucked made it EXTREMELY obvious and EXTREMELY clear she wanted to fuck me/date me from like the second we met. Every girl that is interested in you makes it obvious right away, they talk to you A LOT, they look at you a lot, they smile when they talk to you, they literally can't stop touching themselves/their hair or you for that matter, they'll grab your arms, lean against you, hold your hand, be super energetic around you etc.

Even the ones who are playing "hard to get" are just autistically trying to get your attention, because they're clearly interested in you, they're just awkwardly pretending they're not.

If you ever even question "Does a girl like me" she definitely doesn't. I'm 19, I lost my virginity at 14 and I honestly don't even know how many women I've had sex with, they literally, LITERALLY want it so bad I can't even fathom how you guys aren't getting any. Women are such horny sluts it's ridiculous, it's almost all they think about when they talk to a guy they like.
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>>42803808
You should feel pretty dumb. You made a decision to marry the first girl who ever wanted to touch you because you're scared of being lonely and taking risks. The girl you met in high school IS NOT the most comoatible person you will ever find. I hope your marriage is great, enjoy it while it lasts man. If that's forever then awesome. But I hope you have the courage to walk away if/when things go downhill.
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>>42803845
funnily enough, the guys I know who are most successful with women are half a head shorter than me, skinny/frail with mediocre faces BUT they are really charismatic
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>>42803652
Man, munchkin a best
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>>42803808
This is the best possible scenario ever. I'm so jealous of you it's not even funny.

I'm 26, I have sex every now and again with random even, even with women I date. But it's shit. The women are fucking trash because every half decent girl is taken. At my age women are literally "lol it's just sex I do it every other day with a random guy haha we're not kids anymore it doesn't matter hahahhaha I'm so independant I don't want a man in my life"

I honestly regret not doing everything in my power to get a relationship at 18-21. Any sort o relationship you form after that is literally so fake and shit.
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>>42803764

It's true. Women never drag blackout drunk ugly guys back to their houses and fuck the guts out of him while he is barely conscious. I'm not saying these women are always good looking, but sometimes I would have been willing to fuck them if I was sober.
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>>42803856
She already got fat. Admittedly sometimes I do think I made a huge mistake but Christ I don't wanna lose half my shit. At least we don't have a child. I'll divorce before I bring spawn into this world
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>>42803860
If those posts aren't just trolls they're speaking for .5% of the male population. Plenty of average looking dudes get laid consistantly with hot women. Spend 10 minutes people watching at a university and you'll see at least a dozen couples where he girl is way too hot to be with that guy. You don't need to be a mode to get laid, but you do have to stop waiting around.
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>>42803808
Anybody who says you made the wrong decision is literally either under 20 or mentally retarded.

You got into a genuine, loving relationship with someone and you created a genuine bond with someone and you don't have to think about how many other guys have done the same with her. And you can't compare her to anyone so you don't feel like you've lost something.

Both of you can now grow, help each other grow and mold each other into the perfect partner for each other.
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>>42803896
what I'm getting at is that a male model 9/10 dude gets less approaches by women than a 7/10, but if he decided to approach he'd of course score more. David Gandy didn't have much success with women for a long time, and iirc there was some other italian MM that was a virgin in his early 20s until he became famous. Height/face/frame is only important if you use them
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>>42803777
Consult someone else in this thread. I've become a pro at getting girls just by making them laugh, which is situational, and being very trustable. For most people this leads to friendzone or wifezone, somehow I managed to apply this to one night stand zone. I don't have go to conversations or lines that lead to sex and I would venture to say they don't exist. The people who are good at it probably are just good at riffing on the spot and they know where to lead the conversation in a general sense
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>>42803884
Fuck half your shit dude. Once a child comes into play you'll be a slave for the rest of your life. Now is the time to make a change man. I'm not trying to fuck with your relationship, if it's solid, then obviously ignore people on the Internet. But people don't usually marry their high school sweetheart because they've found the epitome of happiness. They do it because they listened to too any love songs and watched too many rom coms. Being single is uncomfortable. It makes you struggle, it makes you work, and it makes you make yourself better. And then, you realize that you didn't need someone in your life to make you complete. Once you realize that, your relationships get 100x better because your not relying on other people to make you happy. Rather, 2 already happy and complete people are sharing with each other and it's amazing.
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>>42802916
Excellent meme
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>>42803845
How do I get that reaction from women? I've never experienced that
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>>42802916
It's gfs all the way down
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>>42803935
I even digged it up: Quote from David gandy, the 10/10 lookism prototype:
>To be honest, I dont think Im that great-looking. At school I wasnt the guy who got the girls or who was thought to be hot. I didnt have a girlfriend til I was 21, which is pretty late. I was a loner. All I saw in the mirror was a big nose and a slightly chubby boy. I was ridiculously shy around girls.
>I remember being in awe of this guy at university who could just talk to anyone. I still think if a guy wants girls, its more about the gift of the gab than the way you look. In my head I still think of myself as I was at 15 or 16.
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>>42803978
source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2155385/David-Gandy-Gisele-I-dont-We-dont-eye-eye.html
Not even height, face and frame can save you from autism
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>>42803973
You don't. That's Chad speaking and his experience covers that of about .05% of the male population. But guess what? Plenty of average looking guys get laid consistantly with beautiful women as well. So you should focus on yourself and not his experience.
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>>42803978
Wow, inspiring. Yes I have had girls react to me like this >>42803845 or obviously check me out. Girls that make it obvious they want me and then just submit when I finally make a move. But the problem is I don't know where to find them, and start a conversation naturally. Once I start talking to them one-on-one I'm in
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>>42803801
I don't go out, I hate going out. I like my close friends and that's it. I only talk to girls I sit next to in class or girls I was introduced to. I have never once approached a girl I didn't know to ask out because I'm too insecure. Girls I'm "friends" with make it obvious they like me. I don't know why, I'm not interesting. I just smile and laugh at people's jokes and stuff.

>>42803815
I've never fucked a girl over a 7. But I have had a lot of 6's and 7's.

>>42803845
Honestly I just faked being charismatic and stuff for awhile until it became natural. I was really bullied and shit up until high school. I had to fake being being interesting and stuff until it became normal, I faked my posture, I faked my smile, everything. Now people are drawn to me, but really I'm the same as everyone else. I just got lucky with a decent face. I'm only 5'9. I just get flirty with girls I already know and they either immediately respond to it or they don't. If they don't, then I instantly stop trying. It's not worth it, some other girl will be interested.

If anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to answer as best I can.
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>>42803935
This multimillionaire was still virgin when he was 20.
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>>42803978
He was just fat though.

I'm not fat, in decent shape of anything and I'm 23 and I've never been in a relationship.

Honestly I can talk to anyone. It's just depressing knowing that no amount of charisma/confidence/being talkative can fix your ugly face.
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>>42804046
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>>42803978
your thesis is wrong, and you probably are 2-3 points below gandy in terms of looks. What you experience is happening because you look approachable, not because you're at peak attractiveness. Peak attractiveness will intimidate insecure (i.e. all) women, the only guys they will approach are sub 8 but above 6
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I'm gonna be 24 in December and I'm seriously worried that all the girls that are actually worth spending my time with are gonna be taken now. How the fuck do you find a life partner these days? legit thinking about going to church to get a date
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>>42804069
unless he was morbidly obese that isn't a valid reason seeing as I know plenty of chubby+average guys irl that do just fine with women. Face it, you and I are on 4chan because we have fucked&edgy personalities, then normies come in with delusions of grandeur because they can actually talk to women and confuse it with being attractive
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>>42804089
>Face it, you and I are on 4chan because we have fucked&edgy personalities

I honestly don't though. Everyone I talk to seems to like me, I'm reasonably funny, I'm not dumb, I have some female friends, but nothing ever comes out of it.
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How many girls you tried talking this week?

I hate(myself included) how everyone whines they are not getting laid but they never step up the game.

You cant get laid by spending majority of your day in front of computer or gym.

Try this. Set a goal, every single day try to "talk" with 1 random girl, whatever, girl in class, buss, shop.

Step out of your comfort zone, make it awkward and youl soon adapt.

When you first started lifting, everyrhinf was awkward with bar alome and now you can rep serious weigt any time without thinking it.

Seriously make a list and let it be goal of the day: make 1 thing to step out of your comfort zone.
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>>42803801
Post picture
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>>42804116
>just talk to women bro
That's not how it works if you aren't attractive. You can't talk your way to attraction.
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>>42803845

FUCKING FUCK CHAD IM SO JELLY REEEEEEEEE
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>>42804046
Lol so you're not the successful with women and you don't even know how you do it. We've gotten to the truth guys. 9 times out of 10 any guy who says he only gets approached by girls and he doesn't have to do anything, he means he fucks decent looking girls but he doesn't have the confidence to approach the 9s and 10s.
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>>42802856

>I literally have tonnes of female friends and I never get laid.

But divided among how many of them? Maybe you just have a few fat ones that won't even fuck you.
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>>42803884
Have you told her she's getting fat?
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>>42804138
Excluding pic related, if youve taken all steps to be the most attractive you can be, then somebody thinks you're attractive. You won't find this out until you start opening your mouth and saying hi to people. Women have been conditioned to belie it is not their job to approach you. Whether you're attractive or not, the reality is that most guys don't get approached by women very often. If you're not talking to women then yore holding yourself back and you only have yourself to blame.
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>>42802799
>turning 23 later this year
>had sex with 7 women
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> Met a really nice girl on tinder
> Really like each other
> Was going to have the perfect night tonight both of us have been looking forward to it all week
> My best friend died this morning in a car accident
> Mfw

Literally, anyone can die at any moment so try not to live with regrets guys. Ask that cute girl out. Go to the bar with your friends. Call your family and say hi. Godspeed and I love you all.
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>>42804155
How do I go about doing this
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>>42804149
Yes, that's exactly what I typed out you retard. Thanks for repeating it.
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>>42804144
When I was in highschool I was 240lb at 5'5'', only had sex with 1 chick who was pretty average, we were both 17, we mutually left each the summer before senior year, in all honesty I was just too fat to care about anything except playing halo 3 and reach, and my libido was down the drain. During my senior year met another chick, started dating her, never had sex but we'd do other things, 2nd half of senior year she motivated me to lose weight, so I dropped 70lbs in 6 months. After I graduated, I worked with a recruiter over a year while I did college, and finally got down to about 160lbs. When I got back on fb, i was bombarded with "friends" who were like "oh muh gawd OP" "wew, you got hot." I got back from AIT after another year of that, and met with some "friends" and bunch of shit happened. But now I'm out of army, dating the same girl I met after I stopped sleeping around, now I'm fat again and no one gives about me anymore. Mostly how you look, OP. If you're an ugly fatty then you won't get offers, if you're fit as fuck and at least moderately attractive, prepare yourself for signs.
>>42802912
snapchat and tinder and all those apps made it real easy to get sex, anon. I'm friends with a chick I met my first time back in college, and she did nothing but tinder for 2 years straight. I couldn't tell you how many times she's had sex with random dudes, the same dude many times while fucking another dude while that dude had 2 other side hoes. It's insane STD's aren't infecting 80% of the population right now.
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>>42804422
disregard the other thread.
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>>42804195
i had slept with that many girls by 17. you shouldnt be bragging.
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>>42804331
Maybe he shouldn't have been speeding like a jackass
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>>42804450

Ya probably.
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>>42804448
Not bragging senpai. Contributing to thread.

But if you want me to brag, all my lays are highly selective as in legit 7.5/10+. Anyone can have a high number with average/uggos. Eat shit faggot.
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>>42804422
>if you're fit as fuck and at least moderately attractive, prepare yourself for signs.
I have fucking doubts friend
Im fit and attractive enough for women to pursue me sometimes but dating is still hard as fuck and ive only had sex with a handful of chicks

Its all about social exposure and value, if you have high social value then you will get women you can pursue and offer her something
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>>42804478
OP didn't say anything about dating. My experience wasn't dating, just sex. I mena I had maybe 2 chicks who wanted to date me, but I was in the Army and was feeling good and confident, so I didn't date
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If you live in a city and are decently attractive, you can easily have sex with a 2+ news girls every week off of Tinder and Bumble, combined with getting their numbers/snapchats and going out to bars. I had sex with a new girl just about every week this past summer

It's literally just how much work/money you want to put into sleeping with girls. If you actively pursue sex and make decent money when you live in a city, you will have sex, as long as you're not ugly as hell. I hardly even have any friends here and I still get with girls somehow. I'm 26 and I'm at 30+ girls
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>>42804514
I put dating and sex in the same category because they are similar and im facing equal problems with both, hence the confusion

Ive had gfs and random hookups and longer dating but point is i cant with a straight face call it easy even if im fit, tall and good looking enough to get girls to pursue me. Its just not easy and i dont know why
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>>42804478
>Its all about social exposure and value, if you have high social value then you will get women you can pursue and offer her something
this is the real redpill. Above average + social exposure gets more sloots than 99th percentile but social outcast, women are far more social creatures than men are
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>>42804548
correction: approaches by women. If you are a male model you can get laid easily by tinder etc., but stay passive as a loser outcast and nothing will come despite objective aesthetics
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All these guys saying that getting sex is easy lmao. Not bitter or anything but I get literally nothing. I live in the Netherlands and I'm 1,63m or 5'4. The average girl I meet is at least 1,75m, especially at uni.
So that gives me maybe 2 girls out of 100 that are somewhere around my height or a little shorter. Then I have to put a lot of time in it because I have a lot of competition from guys that are at least 1,85m. I also have to hope that I can get them attracted to me because some short girls aren't even willing to date short men.

Not really sad actually because I have a lot of things going on in life but from time to time I think about it
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>>42804564
>If you are a male model you can get laid easily by tinder etc
Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8rzo4Ik4M

Tinder is the worst place on earth, it has girls who have standards that are too high to find anyone IRL so they wont ever find anyone online either. So the tinder meme is awful, it might have been good way back in the day but now that most girls use it as an attention vendor its shit
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>>42804783
Bingo. Tinder has been dead for a couple years now.
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>>42804783
of course it's satured with men just as everything online, so you'll have to compete with other ~8/10 men as a 9/10 male, making it hard to score the best women there. With that said, the act of getting laid alone should still be possible whereas being passive outside of a social circle would lead to 0 lays
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>>42803942
Yeah but when or how do you get to the point where you fug
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>>42804783
i didn't even watch that but what a retarded video and what a retarded post
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>>42804854
It's called progression, generally through body language aka eyes and physical escalation.

After that it comes down to logistics. Close to your place or at your place? Escalate.

Not at your place? Get number and meet up at a different date.
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>>42804821
>With that said
Im no arguing this statement, as a guy you need to be socially active and have high social value to your circle if you want to get laid. Im not advocating for anyone to be passive.

I am saying that tinder (and most online dating sites) is so saturated with men and extreme quality men along the pickiest of women that getting laid is very very hard even if you are a male model.

And as for your "best women there" even the lower women there have high demands mate, tinder has shown their own stats (from 2015 iirc) and it said that less than 5% of guys get a right swipe
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>>42802843
Disregard this advice. Making friends with women is not the way to go. The world would be a much better place if men hung out with men and women hung out with women only.
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>>42804894
Well yeah, I fully agree with that.
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>>42804914
>Making friends with women is not the way to go
Agreed. I don't keep female friends. Only reason I am talking to a girl willingly is if they are mutual friend or if I want to fuck them (99%) case. If friendzoned, never talk to them again, which you can spot very early on.
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Most of them are probably fucking fat and ugly chicks.
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At what point do you become attractive? I feel like my face is shit tier because I still look REALLY young (14-15). Obviously I'm through puberty, have voice, armpit/dick hair, etc etc. But my face man, it just makes me look like a child. When does the face start to age and look mature?
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>>42803001
Because he's a weak lonely man whose coping mechanism is to pretend he's that way by choice
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>>42804856
>It doesnt conform to my world view, therefor its stupid
Your argumentation skills are on point, sir
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>>42805093
kys
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>>42804985
If you look young then your prime is 30+. But only if you look good.
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>>42802799
>20
>virgin
>haven't had first kiss
>haven't held hands
>no girl has ever loved me who wasn't related to me

H-hahaha...I have been fat most of my life, just starting to change that around. Give me strength bros.
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>>42802799
You sabotage yourself with that shitty attitude. Do you really think the memes here are supposed to be taken seriously and you're expected to be autistic about stupid shit like that? If you werent a dumb frog poster and acted normal you'd have more chances of getting laid. I got a gf when I was 17 and I have been in and out of relationships since then (32 now).

Its not that big of a deal dude, if you werent so fucking worried about it you would get a lot more of it. Women can smell desperate men.
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>>42802882
this will never happen, the ultimate blaq pill is that 95% of them will be scooped up and start nice families comfortably in the burbs
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>>42803767
i would have to agree

girls do like playing match maker for some reason
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>>42805254
I dunno how one gets past it tho... attractiveness is nice but these women are so broken they can't be mothers. I've dropped a lot of women instantly simoly because their promiscuous past physically disgusts me to the point that I don't want to be around them anymore. I don't sleep around, intentionally... but holy fuck most women are unsalvageable in my experience. I don't see how guys get past it... and impregnate these literal genetic dumpsters.
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>>42802882
would happen if there werent those many thirsty fags
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>>42805146
Hey man, I had my first kiss at 20 and lost my v card at 21. Just get out there. Go to parties go to bars, try new things.
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>>42805146
>21 years old
>escaped skinnyfat mode and currently on a slow bulk
>got a haircut and bought non-cringy clothes
>relatives compliment me on muhh transformation
>try to be more social, smile more and take initiative in social situations
And yet I'm still a loner who goes to uni, lifts and then shitposts on imageboards. There something about me which repels people and I'm terrified of never finding out what it is.
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>>42805254
>>42805421
A lot of those relationships will eventually fail and we'll be left with more single-mothers to impart their 'wisdom' onto the next generation.
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>>42805711
>non-cringy clothes
What are cringy clothes?
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>>42805737

Just normal clothes, baggy jeans and band t-shirts etc.
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>>42805737
clothes a size too big, nerdy xD graphic t-shirts and items that are simply worn out/frayed
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>>42804616
i feel you bro, im 1.85 cm , considered very tall in my shitty country and got zero action in my whole life, the average guy who gets dozen is like 1.70 at least and same as you, dont care much but still get my depressed times when i think about it.
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>>42804354
Just clearing it up for all the sad cunts in here who read stuff like what you originally said and get discouraged.
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>>42805797
>1.85 cm
is your country an ant colony?
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>>42804331
You're best friend would want you to meet someone man. Tell her the truth and that you'd like to reschedule for a week breh. Hang in there
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>>42805755
>>42805762
Thank God I don't wear those, I always thought I had no fashion sense. I keep things minimalistic.
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>>42805711
I never understood why they have to outline this shit for people; gorrila face expressions are just human face expressions on a liberian's face. take the gorilla approach bro, just throw shit against the wall and see if it sticks. go out of town and fuck around somewhere consequence free. hey, you might even get laid ;)
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>>42804985
at 21 yo i got my "adult" face, but im not sure if was that or that i lost a bit of face fat.
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>>42804342
"Hey wife, since you're my wife and I love you, I want to be honest with you about our relationship. It's been great, but lately we feel off and I know it's partly because I'm losing attraction to you. To be honest, you put on a lot of weight since we got married and that's not what I was attracted to. Would you be willing to eat healthier and and work out with me?"

That will tel you how much she's willing to give for your relationship. If she tried that help her eat right and excersise but always be positive and keep in mind her enjoying it is wayyy more important than going hard. So don't put her on SS and a 1000 calorie deficit. Help her find fun in being active and healthy. If she doesn't try, then you know to start getting your lawyer ready for the divorce.
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>>42805823

Realistically you can wear whatever you want; fit is the most important thing.

Dress to your body shape is the most important rule.
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>>42802843
>Stop making sex the goal. Start mak
Nice try, won't fall for it tho because that's how you end up jerking yourself in the same room as your "gf" and you have to clean it yourself or use a tissue.
OP, you aren't fit enough, keep working out.
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>>42805875
>Realistically you can wear whatever you want

You're literally retarded if you believe this.

Bros, honestly, I'm being 100% serious right now - save up a bit of money and invest in some quality, good brand, well-fitting clothing. Anybody who says you can "wear whatever you want if it fits" looks fucking autistic IRL and doesn't realise it.

Go to some fashion blog, pick a style that you think would suit you and buy it, make sure it fits well - keep it clean etc.

I used to shop in cheap shops and wear "alright" clothing, but as soon as I put in a lot of effort into being fashionable I've goten tonnes of compliments. I've been lifting for 4 years and nobody has ever given me "out of nowhere" compliment about my muscles, but girls tell me they like my shoes/jeans/shirt all the time.

Color coordination is the most important thing.
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>>42806006
This. If you're not buying expensive clothing from top tier stories you're guaranteed to look fucking autistic as fuck, women have a sixth sense when it comes to this shit. They can tell the difference between $50 jeans and $100 jeans in a second, same with any item of clothing.
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>>42803826
im gonna miss it so much
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>>42805093
>>42804783

There's average people getting laid on Tinder every day dude. If you aren't don't be mad. Fix it.
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>>42804936
That's stupid. Having girls in your friend group exposes you to new women and offers more warm approaches than cold because you're getting introduced to new people. Plus those girl friends of or will tell other girls how great you are. What a valuable resource to just dismiss because you're mad a girl doesn't want your dick. If a girl friendzoned, obviously don't keep pyrsuing her, you should find someone else. But she might be a cool person to get to know and hang out with. And that makes you a more well rounded person and offers benefits in dating and getting laid.
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>>42806006
I dress like that guy alot, crew neck jumper or half-zip fleece with jeans. I dress for practicality, not style. My face lets me down most of the time, I think. I've got slight acne and eyes that make me look perma-stoned.
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>>42805146
Keep lifting and losing weight bro. It will change your life. And you will eoxeirrnce success if you're willing to work for it!
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>>42805421
Are you sure you're happy dude? Your worldview is a little biased
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>>42806127
>I dress for practicality, not style

You look like shit m8. Fashion is the biggest thing nowadays.
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>>42802799
>He's had sex.

Get. The. Fuck. Out.
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>>42802916
top tier meme hombre. Do you by chance partake in the devils own cabbage patch?
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>>42802916
Are ou learning to draw by chance? Cus the body came out pretty well.
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I just talk to girls for a few minutes/hours/days and then they want to have sex

I don't know how it is easy you are overthinking it
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How and how early to make girls know you're attracted to them? Let's say in any non-party situation during the day, which way is appropriate?
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>>42806006

90% of time as long as it fits and looks good, people have no idea at all.

I've attended exceptionally high end corporate events where the worst dressed clients were rocking £3k+ Tom Fords suits, and I was wearing a properly tailored £200 Ted Baker suit.

Not only did no-one blink an eye, but I received numerous compliments from clients who were rocking outfits 20x more expensive.

90% of people have no clue.
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>>42806150
I dress just like the pic that was posted, if I look shit it's for other reasons.
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>>42803741
are you a man or a woman tho?
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>>42803741
Do you find the straight shota hot or the manchild hot?
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>>42806207
>90% of time as long as it fits and looks good, people have no idea at all.

You're honestly wrong mate, I'm not even memeing. The only peple who "have no idea" are the people who dress like shit as well.

>I've attended exceptionally high end corporate events

I stopped reading right here. Tone it down, Blaha.

I literally guarantee you, 10000%, that if you start wearing high end clothing that fits and is fashionable/stylish, women WILL notice.


>>42806213
You definitely don't m8, that outfit is $500, I doubt you spend that much on clothing. You've bought some off brand shit and think it "looks similar" it doesn't. Go buy some decent clothes and style it properly so it matches your general appearance/face, use proper color coordination.

It's not a "end all" fix. It won't take you from a 2/10 to a 10/10. But women notice.
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>>42802799
>Had sex with several women before 16
Try actually trying
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>>42806127
>I dress like that guy alot
>crew neck jumper or half-zip fleece with jeans

So literally nothing like the guy in the picture???

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>42806006
>>42806021
I've literally gotten compliments on my clothing (and sex) from qt3.14 fashion designers wearing only H&M shit and Converses.
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>>42806301
>H&M shit and Converses
That's /stylish/ tho, especially if you're coordinating.

And I never said it's impossible to get laid with shitty style and I never said dressing well will get you laid. I said it helps you look better. If you're already good looking it won't change that much, but being stylish just makes you more approachable and interesting for women in general.
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>>42806247
It is off brand shit, it does look similar, it might not suite me, but it does look similat. I'm a poorfag, so 90% of my clothes come from Primark and that's not changing anytime soon.
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>>42806301
>I've literally gotten compliments on my clothing (and sex) from qt3.14 fashion designers

I don't know if I'm just getting old but /fit/ is getting more and more ridiculous every day. Are you literally fucking 15 years old?

>Somebody says you don't dress well
>NO FUCK YOU I UH HAD SEX WITH FASHION DESIGNERS THAT TOTALLY LOVED THE WAY I DRESS

Christ. Fashion designers, really? Come on mate, grow up.
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>>42806323
>I'm a poorfag, so 90% of my clothes come from Primark and that's not changing anytime soon.

That was my whole point m8, it looks like shit. Trust me I used to do the same shit - I bought all my clothes in primark. But then I started going to Zara, Next, Top man, H&M, FatFace, Calvin Klein etc. I just saved up some money. At least buy ONE nice outfit you can wear so people notice.

Argos at least mate.
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>>42806355
>>42806323
Shit, I meant Asos, not argos.
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>>42806338
It's not like fashion designers are fucking elves or something lmao.
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>Get clothes from goodwill and target if I'm feeling ritzy
>nice Levi's I bought years ago
>Torn up shoes from skateboarding
>can't swat the poonpoon away fast enough
Muh gimmicks kys not one oz of thought goes into females whilst dressing
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>>42806367
You sound ridiculous mate, a single fashion designer MAYBE, but designerS? Where? How? Fucking get real mate, you sound like you're a 15 year old, you probably are given that you actually think your response wasn't 100% autistically retarded.

It's also fucking really convenient how you fucked fashion designers to prove your point that you don't have to dress well

>>42806378
Nobody is saying that dressing like shit makes it impossible to get laid and nobody is saying dressing well gets you laid. It just makes you look better overall. Just like lifting isn't the be all end all of getting laid either.
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>>42806401
That was my first comment on the subject and I didn't say I fucked several of them, just that they complimented me.

Met her at a bar, she had friends who worked in the same atelier.

How fucking autistic do you have to be to get that salty over people having sex .
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>>42806461
>UHH I MEANT I ONLY HAD SEX WITH ONE FASHION DESIGNER

So how is it relevant to the conversation at all? One woman, who just happened to be a fashion designer, had sex with you. And???

M8 just drop it...
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>>42803630
>"So you like bread too?"
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I never made any effort, my social skills are fucking garbage, and i fucked 4, one of them was obssesed with me and i got scared and pushed her away.
Dont know about you people but i have to actually like a girl to enjoy having sex with her, just pulling my dick out and sticking into some random girl pussy doesnt work for me, i'll be pumping for hours and feel nothing.
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>>42803548
Funny how sex abuse on males works. I also had a similar experience as a kid.
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If you're attractive, women will come to you.

Fuck all the redpill/game theory/leddit tier stuff you fags read.

I've only been lifting for a year and even I realize this. FFS get your shit together nerds
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Read this

https://www.docdroid.net/19VI4iX/models-mark-manson.pdf
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I used to be scared of death but reading this thread just made me comfortable with it. Knowing that I can end it anytime somehow feels good
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The fashion plebians itt disgust me. Grow up
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>>42806545
How
My social skills are garbo as well
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But I like being alone.
Sure, some penis in vagina would probably be great from time to time, but in general I am fully content with me being alone in my apartment. All this "go out and make meaningless small talk with people" seems like so much effort just to maybe get your dick sucked sometime in the future.
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>be at bar the other night
>girl comes up to me and wants me to get her number cause she thinks I'm cute
>talk to her for a bit and she's really into me, constantly smiling and laughing.
>want to have sex with her but don't want to date her or take her out
>live with my parents in tiny apartment
>literally no idea what to do from here

I would be more than happy to bang this chick innawoods cause I haven't had sex in like 6 months but I have no idea how to propose it to her.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ENTIRE THREAD, I THOUGHT WE'RE ALL KISSLESS VIRGINS HERE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>42802799
Contrary to popular belief having sex with tons of women just makes you look trashy. Sure you'll attract women but it's painfully obvious in fuckbois that they sacrificed their self respect for easy pussy. Take >>42802826 this faggot for instance. Do you really want to spend your free time trying to impress people on an anonymous image board? That is the fate of the fuckboi. Once the pussy dries up or they get married they devolve into bitter cunts with no value to anyone. Not even themselves.
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>>42802826
fpbp
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>>42807019
>>be at bar the other night
Could you explain the actual situation a bit more?
We're you alone at the bar? Was she alone at the bar? Was there any direct visual contact between you two before she approached you? A few details about it please because I can't even fathom a girl actually approaching me ever.
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>>42804914
>virgin
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>>42807057
I abbreviated the situation but she was a bar tender. I was there with one other friend. A girl came up to me and said my friend thinks you're cute can you please get her number so I ordered a beer five minutes later and asked if her name was X. She said yeah and I explained what her friend told me and that's it. I'm really tall and good looking tho and have been working out for 5 or so years. I had not noticed this girl until her friend told me she was mirin.
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>>42807044
COPE
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>>42803263
I lost count of the chicks ive fucked at around 60 when i was 18
That was four years ago..
If you cant tell im a bit of a slut
Maybe im just a chad or something
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>>42802912
>actually believing this
>not knowing that literally the even most average of dudes has like three girls on rotation minimum per week
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>>42802929
I've never even had sex and I'm 23. Never has a girl showed any interst in me
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Anyone experience reverse progress? It's the biggest blackpill one can be given.
> freshman year of high school
> girls think I'm cute, have fun flirting and texting grills, even have 8/10 gf with massive tits for a year
> over summer between year 2-3 my hairline completely JUSTS
> everything his hell now, girls who thought I was cute won't talk with me, guys make fun of me
> even teachers make fun of me
> don't get laid again for the rest of high school
> shaving my head by college, don't get laid at all then either
> become depressed, stop giving a shit about how I look, gain a ton of weight

now I'm 23, haven't had sex since I was 16. Trying my best to dig myself out of this pit but I think it's too late. If I haven't fixed this by 25 I'm killing myself.
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>>42802937
>80/20 is real
>literally every person on earth has enjoyed sex but a few hapless virgins on 4chan
>tfw im the biggest most despicable virgin of them all
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>>42802984
>like everything is easy
>be urself
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>>42802799
You faggots need to stfu with your incessant whining. If you don't have a literal disability it's easy as fuck to get laid. I've had multiple chances I fucked because because I was born with a speech impediment.
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>>42807231
honestly it's more like 90/10 or 95/5
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>>42803263
>whiteknight
>girls are honorable
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>>42803630
>just shower and lift bro
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>>42807231
Historically, yes. Only 1 in 16 men passed their genes on.
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>>42807422
yes this is pre civilization back when reproduction meant literally beating women unconcious and raping them in the dirt

it's only under post-modernism that life is returning to a handful of men monopolizing all the female attention
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I have never been able to ejaculate with vaginal intercourse due to my death grip masturbation style. So she always has to finish me by hand.
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Because /fit/, like most of 4chan, is populated by a large group of vocal young skinny dudes, and their look is the Major Market Model look of the sexual marketplace.

The cold truth that most men here don't realize is that women don't fuck muscular men, they fuck lean men. They want a body that has no fat on it, that's it. It's good to have broad shoulders and be tall, but what matters most of all when it comes to the body is BF%. Skinny dudes have it the best, and girls view them as sort of the baseline of the sexual market; they're kind of like the Toyota Corolla of hook-ups. Everyone wants em cause they're safe and reliable and don't cost too much and will garner nods of approval from the vast majority.

If your body is curvy, or retains fat, or is stocky, or whatever the fuck else besides being a baseline young skinny guy, you're gonna have a hard time. And this is without considering psychological problems.
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>>42807454

What about circumcision? does that factor into it?
having a nice cut dick?
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>>42802912
here we have it boyos the real life autistic cope
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>>42807257
Stutter?

That's what I have too. So many wasted chances. I come across as an asshole because I don't speak much.
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>>42803263
wanna see pics of me getting my cock sucked by randos
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>>42807589

how would we know it was yours?
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>>42807453
Stop watching porn you pleb
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>>42807597

For how long? if there was a particular number of days after which abstinence would return my penis to normal I'd do it in a heartbeat. It is the unknown that draws me back in.
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This thread has been really helpful, thx guys
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>>42803263
Lol dude I'm sorry you don't get blowjobs
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>>42807631
Stop watching porn forever. Only masturbate once a week using your imagination.
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Statistically people born in the 90s are having the least amount of sex since many generations.
I guess its very dependent on the area too. I live in Budapest which is filled with tourists and Ive noticed that generally they have sluttier bios and on average theyre a lot more open about hooking up.
I dont know a single guy that would have multiple fuckbuddies though and the slutty girls are really trashy here. None of that innocent looking girl talking about sucking dicks thing you see on the internet
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>>42806606
>Tfw I have never been sexually abused but I only actively want to fuck 50+ amateur looking wrinkle bags
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I'm 23 and I've only had sex with one girl. She was attractive though.
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>>42808106

Did you ejaculate into her?
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21, turning 22 next month. Have literally 0 friends and am a kissless virgin. I've been working out for 2 years and I look pretty good. My body just refuses to lose my stubborn hip and belly fat. Someone kill me
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>>42802799
By the time I was 22 and started dating my long term gf, id slept with 20 women, i am also 5'5 and fairly socially awkward. You must look like a foot
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>>42802843
>not being a chad
Spoke like a true beta
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>>42808147

How big is your willy?
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>>42808157
6.5 but thats not really relavent, i wasnt flashing them to get them in bed
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>>42802882
My kid will be fitter and will kill yours for his gains.
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>>42808166

No but it would be relevant to your confidence levels. Cut or uncut? what age did you lose your virginity?
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>>42808175
Uncut my parents didnt fall for the mutilation jew. 17 to my first girlfriend
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>>42808111
no, but she did swallow
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>>42802799
Let's be fucking honest senpai, if you managed to go 20 fucking years with out kissing, hugging or touching a woman thats not related to you, then you have left humanity behind and your genetic shackles. Going 25 years myself I don't even think about it, I know for a fact that I will always be alone, but I enjoy my solace, you on the other hand went on 20+ yeas with out a woman, you probably don't even want them either because otherwise you would have gotten one already
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>>42802904
nothing wrong with this. MGTOW is just the modern version of being a monk. Men have been choosing to swear off women for one reason or another for all of time.

As far as I know "The Old Man" by William Faulkner is a prototype of the man who decided women just weren't worth it.

I think 99% of the time, women aren't worth it. Modern women are sluts who will leave you at the drop of a hat, and take your stuff. But there's always that 1% that's truly loyal and will stick by you through anything.
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>>42808183

Are you white American?
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>>42808204
White Australian
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>>42803129
>uses drugs to get girls
>proud manlet

you're the type of person I prey on
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>>42808215

which CI?
http://imgur.com/z444fPC
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>>42808228
somewhere between 3 and 4
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>>42803767
I actually lost my anxiety/awkwardness around girls when I met this somewhat qt nerdy girl and we were best friends for a while, she set me up with her girl best friend and it was pretty good
it'd be dishonest to leave out the part where the qt nerdy girl dated me way later, too bad she was a coalburner and psychotic w/ major mental issues but that's not the moral of the story
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>>42808238

Barely any foreskin anyway, you may as well be cut, lad.
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>>42808140
>I've been working out for 2 years and I look pretty good. My body just refuses to lose my stubborn hip and belly fat.
Either gain enough that your lean mass/fat ratio skews, or cut harder

>>42808240
What's the moral?
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>>42805146
keep lifting and getting aesthetic and maybe one day you'll get to do all those things
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>>42802904
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>almost and hopeless
>try online dating
>text game on point after years of desperation
>it all falls apart when i show my face

I dont know why im lifting when the deal breaker is above the neck
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>28 yrs old
>Only sex experience has been with hookers
>Lost count at how many ive fucked

One hooker had the audacity to tell me id be better off finding a gf. Bitch if i could get a gf i wouldn't be paying.
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>>42805737
Cargo shorts, baggy jeans, gaming tshirts, tv show tshirts
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>>42802799
>24yrs
>2 girls
>>1st girl was 15 when i was 19, fat mexican
>>2nd girl was 25 when i was 20, fat single mother
>bros i work with get laid whenever they feel like it, girls i like end up with them because autismo mode.....

i know the struggle
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>>42802912
im the fat ugly arab manlet.wassup
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>>42803375
both
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>>42808358
Fuck that all I wear are cargo shorts and baggy jeans. I'm not wearing women's pants because it's the trendy thing to do these days. /fa/ggots kill yourselves.
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>>42802912
I was in a relationship for two years where I had so much sex I stopped masturbating. Wet pussy around any time I wanted it. Bitch ended up cheating on me, but the experience of living with a nympho was worth it.

Have you never been in a relationship before?
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>>42802799
I'll tell you what I did

pay attention to dudes like RSD tyler and pickup shit that focuses on SELF IMPROVEMENT over everything. There is no magic trick to getting women, aside from massive delusional self confidence and a "not giving a fuck" attitude, but at the same time cultivate self awareness and don't be a dick about it. Listen to standup comedy. don't just agree to everything she says, think for yourself and challenge her on things, but don't be aggressive about it, just laugh it off when you don't agree but be lighthearted. most importantly focus on YOURSELF above all else and cultivate interests that YOU enjoy and can articulate and talk about. What do YOU find interesting? The mindset of "what do I do to get the girl to like me?" is so backwards and is putting pussy on a pedestal. Find what gets you fired up do more of it. One night stands are B.S.. After about 5-10 I realized I was actually putting in WAY less effort and getting WAY more sex back when I was in a relationship. Even if you can actually pull a girl every night, there's a lot of logistical effort that goes into it. It's not worth it. Get into a relationship. I got my first gf when I was 23 if that's any encouragement.
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>>42803263
So naive
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>>42805711

find someone funny and ask them to roast you.

You'll find out real quick the vibes you're putting out to people
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>>42806202
Normally this happens through physical escalation: skin brushing, hugging, kissing, sex.
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>>42807631
Try using your imagination, if that doesn't work just wait enough days until your dick pretty much forces you to cum when you try.
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>>42806231
straight
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>>42808333
MEW (also better body fat levels will make your face look more attractive)
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>>42808336
first hooker i fucked asked me why i wasnt fucking my gf
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>>42802799
because all those guys exude an aura. they're confident, charismastic, convinced in their abilities. they emit good energy and women sense that and want to be around them. the biggest change i made in my life was to stop being such a depressed contrarian loser who hated the world and everyone else. i changed my outlook on life, stopped trying to feel so superior to others and remained positive. its done me wonders. get your ego in check
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>>42806628
>https://www.docdroid.net/19VI4iX/models-mark-manson.pdf

ty based anon
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>>42808648
how did you do what you just said. those are changes I need to undergo myself
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>>42803630
>Be happy.
WOW thanks for the advice i'll be sure to take up on it, really lifechanging stuff how did i not think of this earlier
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>>42808469
Are you me? She would literally text me to meet up for sex. She was cheating on her bf too. I love this world.
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>>42803873
Grow up son, have you cleaned yourself up? Have you been lifting? Are you taking care of yourself? Do you have a huge ego? Good women can be found,
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>>42807244
He didn't say to be yourself faggot
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>>42808497
Thanks man, I really appreciate it
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>>42807226
If you're going to rock the bald look, you need to get a thick neck, muscular physique, a tan and some tattoos. You need to look as manly and non-beta as possible, because being bald has a tendency to make one look like a huge cuck (just look at Blaha).

You may as well roid as you've already lost your hair.
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With some practice, getting with women is incredibly easy.

Which is why threads like this are so hilarious to me. Its like reading 300 replies from people who are desperately trying to figure out addition, but no one wants to put 2 and 2 together.
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>>42810302
Ok so how do you do it then? if its so easy i mean
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>>42810302
it truly is insane once you think about it. people get laid so easy nowadays. I think the fear of rejection is what does most people in, and the unwillingness to start off with girls they may not think are "hot enough" or "right" for them.
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>>42807044
unironically using 'fuckboi.' You forgot 'swag is for bois' and 'classy gentleman'
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>>42810346
>>42810336
>>42810302
Most of the people in these threads (me included) have never / almost never asked out girls.

I'm 22 years old and the only girl I've ever asked out (2 years ago) now works as a model. She rejected me obviously, although she did give me here phone number before.

I guess I just can't be bothered. I would like a gf but I don't want one enough for me to get out of my comfort zone.
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>>42810369
Sure, if you dont try you wont succeed but there is also the problem im having in that i rarely get the option to try.
Its now been around one year since i last met a girl who looked decent and who was single, despite me becoming more social and socially active i meet less and less girls
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