OLD THREAD >>42756182 Who is /fat/ for? For /fat/fuck

>>42774636
don't cry wojak

don't eat either

tfw binge ate for the last month

>>42774709
No sympathy from me. A day is a mistake, a month is entirely lack of effort.

My cheat month is going quite well

How is yours going?

I am 320 pounds and want to stop eating take out every night and start eating healthy meals. What is the best way to do this without getting a week in and falling back into old habits because of cravings? If I just straight up stop eating shit and just eat lean meats and vegetables I will 99.9% say fuck this shit after a few days and go to KFC.

>>42774829
At 320lbs you could probably eat Chinese and still lose weight.
Just eat less of it. Try something with less rice, noodles, and sauces. You could eat a 2000 calorie (maintenance for normal people) diet and lose weight. If you're worried about losing muscle, eat more protein and fewer carbs or get protein powder.
Also, if you start fasting, you're appetite will go away and the cravings will be gone.

>>42774829
I don't know why I thought you were eating chinese takeout, but anyway, you could still eat KFC and lose weight at 320lbs. Eat less of it.

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>tfw can't break plateau

Taught students returning from summer vacation today.

One student mentioned I looked thinner, and when the others actually looked at me they were surprised to find he was right. Feels good man.

>>42774829
As someone who was 310 and is currently 201, start with very small changes. Make sure you are counting your calories every day, no more mindless eating. But you can still eat plenty of food that you like.

At the beginning of my diet, I was still eating pasta and drinking soda regularly, and seeing good success. It's because I was counting my calories every day. I still eat pizza weekly and drink soda a few times a week as well. You will make more healthy choices over time (and learn about healthy meals that actually taste good), you don't need to become a health freak overnight. You can do this man, good luck.

>>42774829
This isn't the healthiest advice but here goes: at 328 lbs, I basically continued eating like shit but way less of it. There were many days I'd make myself a bigass burger and have it with a can of soda and that'd be 1200 calories right there - and then the entire rest of the day I ate maybe 200 more calories, from yogurt or fruit or something.

I lost 25 pounds that first month, then the addiction to seeing the scale numbers go down kicked in and I started getting my act together. I think Lyle McDonald's PSMF follows the same principle: crash-diet the first few weeks because you have so goddamn much to lose and you have to get into the habit of counting obsessively and never snacking, then shift into the healthier stuff.

Being over 300 lbs at (I assume) 5'8-6'2 is no fucking joke, even in your twenties that's heart disease territory and I would be shocked if you didn't have sleep apnea or something related to it. You weigh literally twice what you should. You have so much to lose that a mere 500 calorie deficit would be doing yourself a disservice in my opinion. Go hard now, worry about doing it "right" later.

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>>42774709
Good....Good

>>42774829
Either eat less of it or set a day where you can 'cheat' as a reward for following through with your diet

6'3"
From 260 to 200. Last 20 pounds (maybe 30).
I can already see the loose skin. Been taking much better care of my skin in the hopes it may not be horrific when I'm done. Any option for loose skin besides surgery or building up enough muscle to fill the space? The second of which being beyond the natty limit in my case, I'm afraid. I'd like to see definition in my arms, abs and was one day.

>>42775328
arms, abs and ass*
Fucking phone.
Anyone else feel more critical of their own and other's bodies since losing weight?

>>42774636
>started dieting a month ago
>don't eat nearly as much as I used to
>decided tonight was cheat night
>made up a big meal
>usually able to knock this back easy
>don't even eat half of it
huh

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What's for breakfast /fat?

Pick related- protein cheesecake (109 cals), with raspberries (40) and a mug of tea (25 cals).

>>42775340

Know that feeling- I managed a quarter of a pizza at my last 'cheat' meal!

>>42775352
Breakfast is cardio.

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>>42774636
>no subject

>89.4 kg this morning
It's been so long since I've been below 90

>sweating from lightly cycling downtown going to a shop

anyone else sweating like a motherfucker from light activities? its so annoying

>take a shit
>immediately have to weigh myself

>>42775826
I get extremely sweaty from even the slightest activity. Did it before I became fat too, but not quite as bad.
Especially bad on my back and front and I have pools sitting on my temples as well.

>>42775876
>I have pools sitting on my temples as well.

i hate it when im talking to someone and i can just feel my forehead getting more and more wet, i dont know if its an autism thing or fat thing

im scared of getting sweaty which means im more nervous and self concious, which leads to actual sweating, it's a fucking self fulfilling prophecy

>>42775352
the fuk are you doing, man? why all this fat and sugar already at the start of the day? this will make you crave bad stuff all day long.

my first meal comes at around 12.00. I have protein and some veg.

>>42775884
It's especially bad for me on trains and subways where you stand close to people. Really embarrassing.
That said, I have a friend who used to be an elite swimmer and is still in great shape and he's like a fountain all the time.

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>>42775826
>>42775876
Keep at it. I can now do 60km in a fast pace and not break a sweat.

>>42775909
Yeah I'll keep plugging away. Before this whole thing happened I used to run five days a week and was planning on doing a half marathon.
The difference in fitness and just normal mobility is so depressing, but at least I know I will get back to that.
The only real test for me is to then keep it going and not fall into a black hole again.

After my weekly weigh-in, I pick up something weighing the amount I've lost during the week and since I started.

It's insane how much extra shit you're carrying around.

>>42775940
kek, i picked up and carried around a 5 kg plate at the gym a couple of weeks ago just to feel it out

Been 7 months since I started. Down 85 pounds. Thanks phaggots

>>42775980
Nice going!

>>42775897
> why all this fat and sugar already at the start of the day? this will make you crave bad stuff all day long.

You're not wrong about the sugar, but you are about the fat.

>>42775328
Fasting, using bioil
t. 6'4 went from 300 to 200
Cured my stretch marks and loose skin

>>42776005
well then. even worse. fat would keep you feeling full at least. now you are just jerking your insulin with the sugar.

your breakfast is something no fatty (or anyone) should be having, pal.

>>42775909
Do you know those asses or were you creeping?

fat fucks

how you doing today chad

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>>42776085
yea they are two of my best friends. one of them sometimes annoys the shit out of me with her exposed ass. she means no harm, just generally clueless I guess.
>>42776120
'sup

Then again let this be a reminder that biking alone will not make you lose weight. Eating less will.

>>42774709
>tfw fasting
>fasting 3 hours
>now it's eating year

>>42776157
>17 hours into fast
Shall I do one more hour or eat lunch? It's noon here

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>mfw hacked my 3ds just to find something to keep me blind from my hunger before next sleep

>>42776083
You're absolutely right about fat keeping you satiated and sugar raising your insulin, and one would generally want to avoid sugar right out of the gate. However, I am not >>42775352 so you're effectively preaching to the choir here.

>>42776143
>get PILLS against my orders!

>>42776183
I've noticed with IF that the hunger pains come around a time when I am used to eating. I switch up the eating time to throw my body off of producing the nasty hunger feeling.

Eating after 17 or 18h fast will not make any real difference in terms of weight loss or insulin sensitivity especially if this is going to be your only meal for the day.

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Why is it so hard to just NOT eat?
I ask myself that every day when I start eating anything unhealthy or high calories.

>>42776143
>she means no harm, just generally clueless

She's perfectly aware, believe me.

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>>42776183
Are you doing IF? I generally shoot for 21:3, which has been working out great so far.

>>42774636

Im doing a low carb diet and it's not working. Over the last two weeks I've gained a pound, though the first week I lost 7

I've done low carb before with good results, losing about 1-2 pounds a week, I went from 300 to 275, and if anything I feel like im doing better on it this time than last time.

I guess im gonna have to get real and start counting calories.

>>42774829
If go to sleep hungry then consider it as a good day.

>>42776221
it's very hard to NOT eat unhealthy food.
Replace some of the carbs with protein, stop eating junk food, eat healthy fats and you'll stop being so hungry

>>42776263
Yep. A food scale definitely helped me understand actual portion sizes.

How does one fast if they have a physically demanding job?

>at the gym
>SHE PLAYED THE FIDDLE IN AN IRISH BAND BUT SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH AN ENGLISH MAN

>>42776498
>How does one fast if they have a physically demanding job?
You dont. Fasting is a fad diet.

>for some reason stuck at 215-216 for like three days
>three days later after a monster turbo shit and regular diet I'm 211.3

Was I just backed up or something? I'm pretty sure the mexican food I had a couple days ago was messing with me.

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>>42776562
>weighting yourself every day

>>42776567
Nothing wrong with that anon. If anything it made me learn to stay away from certain places like Cafe Rio because their nutritional info is all out of whack

>>42776498
That's a little tougher. I guess it depends on how physically demanding we're talking here. You shouldn't have any problems with IF; possibly even ADF. Maybe don't go for a regular-ass water fast though. Although you could just say fuck it and try anyway so long as the minor weakness and fatigue of the fast doesn't impact your ability to do your job. Again, hard to say without more details about what your job actually is.

>>42776640
Construction work. So on feet all day + heavy lifting and stuff

>>42776600
there is too much fluctuation in weight for daily weighing to be an effective progress tracker . at most should be once a week. best comparison is taking progress pictures a week or two apart, or doing waist measurements

>>42776675
Could you eat early lunch? Like straight after getting off work, unless of course you work until late.
Otherwise, maybe just don't fast. You can still lose weight easily by normal calorie counting.

>>42775897

It's got no added sugar in it- it's essentially Greek yoghurt, cream cheese and protein powder. And considering I use the 3% fat and 0% fat yoghurt it's not got a huge amount of fat either.

>>42776675
Yeah, you probably don't wanna go for a water fast if you're doing a lot of heavy lifting and potentially putting the safety of yourself and others at risk. However, IF with a 16:8 split should be entirely fine though. See how 16:8 goes for you; if it goes well you could always bump it up to 18:6, and so on.

>>42776675
Fasting is supposed to give you more energy.

>>42774829
food is an addiction, anon, and you can't just cold turkey addictions unless you enjoy feeling like shit

Anons, I'm doing fasting but now sometimes I don't even feel like eating and I'm worried that I'm just malnourishing myself like an idiot. Is it ok to eat less than 1000kcal for a couple months? 1/3 of that is protein shake. What will happen if I continue this way?

>eating at 500 kcal deficit since last week
>started off weighing in consistently at slightly above 100kg
>now weighing in at 98.5
a-am i making it lads

>>42776851
Keep it going. You're going to do great.

fat brehs i wanna work out but i only slept for 4 hours. should I still go i'm afraid i'll be obese forever

>>42776382
I thought this was a fucking meme till about 3 days ago when my experiment with keto hit the 11 day mark. Suddenly, not hungry, and when I am, it passed quickly and feels manageable as hell with water. I'm struggling to eat 1500 calories a day.

Wtf is this magic? I've done a balanced diet for the last year or so and lost 80+lbs and it has never felt this easy. Feels like cheating somehow.

>>42775352
Half a cup of fat free "drinkable" yogurt with some oats mixed in, half a slice whole wheat bread wrapped around 50g of turkey

>>42776872
Working out isn't anywhere near as important for weight loss as diet. It's great for your health/aesthetics/discipline though so get off your ass and get to it.

>>42776817
How fat are you?

> Is it ok to eat less than 1000kcal for a couple months?
Less than 1,000 a day? Are you a guy? If so, then no, that's not okay.
If you're gonna eat, eat right. Hit your TDEE or a few hundo below it.
You're actually better off just not eating and maintaining your fasted state than breaking your fast for a paltry amount of calories for the day.

>>42776817
Your body will think you are starving yourself and start to save energy, making you feel like shit

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>thighs and calves burning after simple 3x8 assisted squats
Who needs plates when I have all this body fat for weight

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>day 2 on the path of making it
>had a large apple and some grapes

>>42776934
welcome to the jungle baby

YOUR GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEEE

>>42776934
You've been posting in this thread for far longer than 2 days. How have you only just started?

>>42776982
I just started with the mindset that i had from when i dropped 70lbs, then i binged for a 3 week period and gained 15 back. Now I'm back in the game,measuring shit, however i didn't measure the grapes and apple. roughly 200cals

>>42776996
>didn't measure the apples or grapes
not gonna make it

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>>42777004
I guess it's a cardio day for you boy.

>>42776906
I'm a 6'0'' 205 lbs male. I was 230 and went down to 215 after 3 months of eating 1900~kcal per day but that was too fucking slow so I'm eating even less now. I'm actually eating at near 1200 most days, just some days I eat nothing or barely anything. It's been a little over a month of this, but yeah I feel like shit a lot and have no energy when I'm at the gym. I still go almost everyday because I'm a NEET with nothing else to do, though.

Am I reading this right? You're telling me to eat at near maintenance to lose weight? Sorry, I don't want to take 2 years to get my desired weight.

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The road to Chadness is perilous and hard. But we're all gonna make it lads. I believe in you.

Gonna be the first cheat day in months today as a birthday treat: large chicken finger plate from Zaxby's and a 6 pack of Guinness draught. Keto coffee might be the only other calories I consume today.

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>>42777060

pic, sans slaw

>>42777076
Eat what you like, but I'm sure you could find much higher quality tendies if that's your bag.

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>>42777076
>posting food on a /fat/thread

>>42777032
You said you were fasting bro. You're eating too little when you do eat AND you're eating too often. Up your calories close to maintenance and just eat less frequently man. Do ADF or throw in some water fasts.
You can surely manage that with your hectic NEET schedule.

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>>42775897

So, just to reiterate on >>42776710 now I'm back home, here's the macros. 3g of fat, 5g of sugar (mostly due to the fact I'm using low fat cream cheese + low fat yoghurt) and 14g of protein per serving.

Considering my other go to breakfast is porridge which has 13.2g of sugar, 8.2g of fat and 14.3g of protein per 40g serving with semi-skimmed milk then quite frankly I don't think the cheesecake is a terrible choice at all. Plus it's much easier when I need something quick and on the go.

Is there a reliable beginners guide to gym/weightlifting? One that doesn't overwhelm you with shit

>>42777159
Read sticky.

>>42777159
Starting Strength. Read it. Do it.

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tfw gained heaps of stretch marks when i initially put on weight and now im getting more when losing it

>>42777166
what do you think of the claims that starting strength will make you look like a T Rex?

maybe the fastingfags should make their own cult general, instead of giving advice directly contradictory to whats in the sticky

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>>42777148
I'll join.

I asked if they could do this wasabi burger with lettuce wrap but they said no, so I just ate half the bun.

It was fucking fantastic.

>>42777151
so eating once every 24 hours is too often?

>>42777178
>he doesn't want to look like the chad of the Triassic period

>>42777177
Know this feel bro, I got the worst stretchmarks when I hit my late growth spurt(5'4 -> 6'4 over one summer) and then just compounded the problem by also getting fat as fuck right after.

>>42777178
I think if you are a fatty intimidated by the idea of weight loss it's far better to read the book and try the program to understand the basics, and then add in more upper body as you become comfortable.

Its for beginners, you aren't supposed to do it forever.

>>42777184
They have a general and it's awful.

>>42777202
i've been doing stronglifts for like a month

noticing general gains and just started actually losing a little weight by calorie counting since both SS and SL recommend eating like a fucking horse which hasn't actually worked to lower my body fat at all

desu my arms aren't even lagging behind, they're where my most noticable gains are coming in, but i worry if i keep it up i'll start looking out of proportion

i'll keep it up for another few months then look at what else there is out there

>weigh self this morning, is on 147
>yesterday was at 145.2
I have to eat more than my tdee to gain this kind of weight, right? I eat about 1000 to 1200 a day, is my metabolism just out of whack? I always feel lighter after a weight fluctuation like this, is that normal?

>>42777191
> I'm actually eating at near 1200 most days, just some days I eat nothing or barely anything.
> barely anything
This is the problem.

OMAD is absolutely fine, but when you're actually breaking that fast to consume far less than what you need is only contributing to you feeling like dogshit, lethargic and lowering your metabolism.

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>>42777219
>following the diet part of SS when you're fat

>>42777232
h-hey man i was reading mehdi's propaganda and believing it all
i-i'm gonna make it i swear

>>42777166
Will do thanks

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>>42774829
get a few colonics and do a parasite cleanse with some herbs. try raw food diet mang. you probably have a lot of worms and fungus living off all that blood and milk in your intestines.

>>42777227
no shit it's lowering my metabolism, I'm eating at a giant fucking deficit, not like breaking my fasts will lower it even more

now I'm skeptical of anything you say

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>everyone is telling me to stop eating bread if I'm aiming for weight loss
I want them to be wrong /fat/, I fucking love bread. Is bread really that bad for weightloss? I don't eat white, I eat 12 grain

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>>42777076
Those look like fries you'd give to a 5 year old.
They make me really want some potato wedges, though.

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>>42777251
W... What do you mean w... worms?

>>42777226
Don't weigh yourself every day. Do it every Sunday or whatever day works for you, but stick to once a week and keep logging every single calorie you ingest.

>>42777292
One slice of bread is roughly 150calories, shit is insane.

>>42777292
Bread is basically empty calories, man. Even whole or multi grain isn't worth the calories for the nutrition they give.

You can work it in to your calories if you want, but it's better to keep it as a cheat meal thing.

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How much loose skin am I going to get going from 225lbs to 160lbs? I exercise (lift+cardio) 6 times a week, eat at half my TDEE roughly (fast on non-lift days).

>>42777278
>How to Fix Your Broken Metabolism by Doing the Exact Opposite
https://www.dietdoctor.com/fix-broken-metabolism-exact-opposite

Please anon. Fasting helps you correct your fucked metabolism.

>>42777335
read the sticky please

>>42777331
You didn't tell us your height, but even then we don't know how your fat is distributed.

Lose the weight slowly (as in not too quickly) and keep lifting. You'll get what you get. It probably won't be that bad.

But remember, "loose skin" is often skin with excess fat clinging to it. To really see what skin is actually loose and not just fatty you have to get to a low body fat %

>>42777335
Did you even read this? It's basically just saying that long term fasting puts you in ketosis, which is easily more achievable from a low carb diet. Those studies and examples are also from people twice my size who have lost weight drastically.

>>42777423
Did you?
Half of the article talks about the long-term effects of eating at a calorie deficit and how it negatively affects your BMR.
Tell me how that isn't relevant.

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As someone that is cutting but also lifting while doing so, should I be using Creatine at all?

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>>42777481
I want an answer that question too

>>42777481
I'm actually wondering this myself. I'm doing IF but still making small amounts of gains slowly and taking creatine. My weight has been between 215 to 220 the past couple of months so it doesn't really feel like I'm losing weight but my pants are getting looser so I must be losing fat.

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>>42777481
>>42777502
Yes anons I've been also searching for an answer for so long

SW 167
LW 154
CW 152

Steady as she goes... progress is being made
Lots of mires and women smiling at me
I'm almost there but I'm not outta the woods yet

Yesterday a tiny thot (5'0) with a blonde hair, cute tatas and fat butt looked at me and smiled. But I pussed out and look away like a beta.

I could have totally hit on her

Does coffee aid in weight loss at all? I fell for the black coffee meme

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>>42777292
Bread is starch of medium caloric density and as such it is a good choice on weight loss, particularly as a snack. Boiled starches will be preferable in most cases due to greater volume, but there's nothing wrong with bread, depending on preferences. Bread is typically high in sodium and that's one reason somebody may want to limit bread.

In this study, overweight men successfully lost weight eating 12 slices of plain bread per day with their main meals. No externally imposed calorie intake, they were required to eat 4 slices per meal and then whatever else they wanted of the meal.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org.sci-hub.bz/content/32/8/1703.full.pdf

>everyone is telling me to stop eating bread if I'm aiming for weight loss
Everyone also believes that carbs "make you fat". Everyone also does not recognize the possibility of eating plain bread rather than bread with butter and cheese added. Plain bread is not generally consumed but plain bread is a weight loss food.

>>42777540
I think it does

>>42777539
>I could have totally hit on her
That takes time and experience. You're going to have to learn to talk to girls which means fucking up and getting rejected a lot which sucks but you'll come out of it a better more resilient man.

>>42777467
It's not relevant because for someone who only needs to lose 60 lbs their bmr is not going to lower as much compared to someone who needed to lose 200+ lbs at a HUGE deficit over a longer period of time. Yes, water fasts probably have a lot of health benefits including increased metabolism. Will it make a huge difference? No.

Went on a 2 mile walk instead of laying around eating this morning. T-that's kind of improvement right?

>>42777302
>>42777323
> mfw when I can get 7 grains with 110kcal and 8g protens for 2 slices

>>42777571
bread itself is okay, tons of fiber and such

but once you cut out bread you automtically cut out a lot of other shit you dont need. Once bread is gone, butter is gone, so is whatever cheese/meats you put on top of it, and maybe the mayo you sometimes use for it

cutting bread for me had an absolute cascading effect of removing a lot of calories in my life, i literally dont buy butter anymore

but this is all CICO, if you count your bread into your equation and control you can absolutely lose weight eating bread

>>42777383
Oops. I'm 5'11, medium build

>>42777592
Yep. Keep doing it. If you're burning calories while eating less you're on the right track.

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>11lbs till 200

Still more to go after but it'll feel good when my weight starts with 1 instead of 2

>>42777613
Better than your weight starting with 4.

>>42777586
Thing is I used to be the man in high school I had a ton of girl friends and had one long term girlfriend. But then the autistic depressive state triggered by weed atrophied my social skills.

I'm slowly getting back anon

>>42777632
Then you know what to do. Keep starting conversations and make eye contact man. You'll be back in the saddle soon.

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>>42777481
>>42777502
>>42777516
I did research on this and it seems like that in the long run, Creatine is great when cutting. You'll gain a bit of water weight, but its to help aid your muscles in recovery and growth, and as long as you are cutting and working out a lot (aiding in burning calories), you'll get gains while losing fat. If you're the type to religiously track your weight on the scale, you'll notice your weight not dropping as fast as it did before, or not drop at all, but that's because you will be gaining muscle a lot faster but still slimming down

if any knowledgeable anons find any fault in this reasoning, please say so, so we can all benefit

>>42777650
>you'll notice your weight not dropping as fast as it did before, or not drop at all, but that's because you will be gaining muscle a lot faster but still slimming down
That's what I'm experiencing. I do feel slimmer but the physical weight is staying constant. As long as I'm losing fat and gaining muscle then I'm happy. I'll keep at it. Thanks man.

>>42777650
But I'll need to start lifting weights right? I've been focusing on cardio for weight loss, with like 2 days a week of lifting. Should I increase my lifting and reduce cardio for this to work out or will creatine work for cardio too?

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>live in a country where people think eating bread and potatoes every day is good

>>42776851
I wish I had had the patience to stick to a 500kcal deficit instead of 1500kcal.

Holy fuck I just want to drink coffee all day and never eat I am fucking flying through life. Cigs and coffee who the fuck needs food :O

>>42777701
Yeah it's definitely bread and potatoes that are causing people health problems, not all the processed junk food that is habitually consumed on a daily basis across the western world

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lost my composure yesterday and had a binge day. dried apricots and papaya, oatmeal cookies and topped it off with custard. didn't feel like going to gym today either.
gotta get over this hump

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>>42777772
You have to survive anon

>>42777735
Anoerexia in the making

Help me /fat/, I'm going through caffeine withdraw (fucks my sleep) and I'm almost sure going to binge today to get through the pain. Ibuprofen is not doing shit.

>>42777694
Just an uneducated guess but creatine builds muscle so whatever you're doing for cardio should affect the used muscles. if you're running a lot you should be getting some muscle in your legs. Lean muscle but muscle all the same. If you were trying to get big you should be increasing your calorie intake to build more bulk muscle but while losing weight you're really maintaining the same amount of muscle as much as possible so I wouldn't increase your weights like you were bulking. Just keep lifting to maintain.

>>42777772
>If you're going through hell, keep going. -Euripides

>>42777900
>I'm almost sure going to binge today to get through the pain
I know it's tough but the choice is yours. When I get strong cravings of any kind, a good long walk usually helps.

Im so hungry guys. Imf with cardio and a normal wrightlifting routine is killing me. Impressively though my strength been the same. Hard to brace with a hungry tummy tho

>>42777900
Dont use drugs to drown hunger
Use water and/or willpower

>>42777928
Sadly my gym is closed today so I can't do cardio properly.

>>42777987
I have 2L of herbal tea at my side, I will try anon.

>>42778057
>Sadly my gym is closed today so I can't do cardio properly.
Is it raining? What's wrong with going for a walk outside?

>>42776872
HOP TO IT

>>42777875
I weigh over 400 el bee's my lad

>>42777701
Back when they had to actually farm for that shit yeah I wouldn't mind a potato or two after a hard day's labor. No excuse now though.

Almost done with week two of crossfit when does all the pain all over my body stop

Hey, been benching 60kg for awhile. Easy to do 10 reps 5 sets

I'm kinda 'stuck on it'

Like I can bench 70kg but only two reps and it hurts.


What should I be doing to enable me to lift more?

>>42778143
Eat more. And if you're on /fat/ that isn't an option, so just be happy with it. At least you're not stuck at 55kg like me.

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>>42776221
It's an addiction, man, literally. Isn't sugar even more addictive than cocaine or something?
>tfw binged yesterday
>fasting all day only drinking water but I'm gonna eat dinner
All the food that tempts me is upstairs in the kitchen so I'll just lock myself in my room in the basement

>>42778166
So, the fuck, what if I push myself to go to 80 I'll just fuck myself up?

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>cardio days
>feel fine and can power through

>lifting days
>pic related

Why is it so hard bros? Im not even on real man weight yet.

Need some help fellow fats, even though I have reached 18 stone 4 down from 21 stone I have hit a plateau for the past 3 months now and it is due to my limited diet, I've decided to drop what I have limited myself to eat and want to try new veggie full recipes, what do you think of these?

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/omelette-pancakes-tomato-pepper-sauce

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/spanish-meatball-butter-bean-stew

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/lamb-buckwheat-noodles-tomato-dressing

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/south-indian-egg-curry-rice-lentil-pilau

These are the ones that I have found so far to not include my allergies (nuts, some beans etc.) and seem to include many veggies, could you see if there is anything wrong with these? They look very healthy to me.

>eat mcdonalds
>hungry again in 2 hours

>eat Five Guys
>hungry again the next day

why

>>42778631
Thicc fries save lives.

So I'm 275 and eating a a 700kcal defecit. This has me eating 2000kcal per day. Is this enough or should I cut even more?

>>42777613

Mine starts with a 2 instead of a 3 and that feels amazing. Can only imagine how nice 1 is.

>>42778143
So try 65? Or less until you can do 3x5 then increase slowly.

>>42778734
>Is this enough or should I cut even more?
I'm 6'4 255 lbs (former 270 lbs) and i've been losing weight on eating 2000 kcal.

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>>42778734
forget deficits and calorie counting. cut fat, oils, dairy and meat. eat carbs, rice and potatos. that's it. 99% people do the exact opposite due to propaganda

>>42778734
Pound a week, maybe a little more at first. The benefit of staying that high on cals is that the cravings are minor.

>>42778772
kys

>>42774636
>>42774636
HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSE TO WORK OUT WITH THIS FUCKING CHAFFING?? it is so itchy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's on my foot and next to my balls where they rub on my leg.

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Gotta keep your eyes on the prize, /fat/. What are your goals?

>>42778807
>What are your goals?

Confidence, strength, and a long, disease free life.

>>42778600
Answer my questions you fat fucks

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>started lifting 8 months ago
>was 250lb with 90lb bench and 215lb DL
>now 236lb with 215lb bench and 405lb DL

still fat tho. prob look like shit in these new pants i bought too. wore them to the gym and felt retarded, what do?

>>42778807
My goals are conflicting. i want to get muscular and I want to be trim so for me (5'11", 217) I need to quit flipflopping from trying to get huge without eating nothing. Those that chase two rabbits catches neither.

>>42778850
try using a real unit of weight measurement first

>>42774636
fuck guys, new /fat/ here. 7 days in and im fucking dieing over here. Hunger is extreme. when does it stop!?

>>42778877
never. i've been eating steamed chicken and broccoli for the past week and it sucks but you gotta do what u gotta do my man

>>42778877
Master your hunger and you will master yourself.

>>42774875
i kno the feel.. 5 weeks later still same, a week later then i drop weight.

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>>42776143
>generally clueless
oh anon, she's fully aware of what she's doing
your efforts are producing rewards, continue the fight and she'll give you even more than she was before

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>>42778807
I have my eye on my prize

>>42778807
I wanna get thaf spiderman aesthetic but with bigger arms, but generally I'd like to have great endurance.

>>42778874
I understand anon, can't use googles simple converter huh? Let me do it for you: 21 stone = 133kg or 294lbs and now I am 18 stone 4 = 116kg or 256lbs

Now answer the question faggot.

>>42778927
too many carbs and sugars in all those recipes except for the pancake one

did anyone's skin get better looking/clearer during weight loss or after?

>>42778807
i wanna be happy, but right now i'm not sure if i'm able to be truly happy. I lost 40kg already and there are another 40 that need to go before i'm considered normal weight. I don't have any problem sticking to my diet, i saved up 300€ from not ordering food for delivery anymore, i went down a bunch of pant sizes and 2 shirt sizes but i'm despite all of that i'm just not happy.

>>42778927
Just eat chicken and greens straight.

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>>42778916
Fucking hell I got insta hard and my arm is unironically shaking trying not to destroy my NoFap streak

hlep

>>42778600
>>42778927
Skip the oil in all recipes entirely and limit to 1 egg/day
Otherwise there's nothing "wrong" with the recipes

Adjust proportions of ingredients up or down according to needs and planning (you typically want more vegetables, fewer empty & liquid calories, potentially more relative protein)

>>42778956
I see we have a comedian among us

>>42778807
Being fit for the first time in my entire fucking life. To not be ashamed to walk around my house without a shirt.
To not be be autistically afraid of public situations due to zero self confidence.
To Enlist and be the best 68W I can be and actually serve a purpose and not feel ashamed of myself.

Fav song just for the hell of it, forgive me if its not allowed. Music in general helps me alot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR-sMAI740E

>>42778807

not rearranging your shirt to hide moobs for a starter.

flirting with girls without getting rejected the minute she sees how fat you are

banging hot chixx all day and not give a fuck about them, my long awaited revenge (i know bitter as fuck)

not sweating when walking a few stairs

buying clothes for the looks not for the size

feeling great about your own body and to get some boosted self confidence.

being a chad on thw outside while hiding my inner powerlevel

eating a fat ass dirty meal without getting bad looks

>>42777302
>One slice of bread is roughly 150calories, shit is insane.
the fuck kinda of bread are you buying?
It's 180kcal for 2 pieces on my standard brown bread

>>42779026
Sounds good, he is right about the sugar levels though on average a man can only eat 37g of sugar per day.

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>>42778985

You might just not be a happy person, anon.

>still a bit hungry after lunch
>go to the kitchen cause I'm sure I had cereal bars in some random drawer
>find an unopened pack of oreos
>dump it straight into the garbage
>wrap it up and take it outside
TEMPTATION, BEGONE

>aiming for 1000 calorie daily deficit to give myself some leeway
>feel like shit if I eat 200 calories more

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>tfw only 12kg to lose for end-year goal

Hold me lads

>>42779531
I have 15 kg.

>>42779531
>>42779700
Time to relax a bit, lads.
Kick back, take September off. There's plenty of time so live a little while there's still a remnant of summer left.

>>42779712
>Time to relax a bit, lads.
I cant. I've been fat for too long.

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>>42779712
>Time to relax a bit, lads.

Fuck off

>>42777076
don't post that shit here boi PLEASE

Who here about to binge on pizza and beer for THE MUTHA FUKKIN' GAME?!

>>42779712

literally kys

I binged last night and this morning, big time. Feels like giving up, how to get back on track?

>>42779790
How many calories did you get this morning and how many do you need?

I binged last week on an afternoon and ended up with 150 remaining calories, spent the rest of the day on tea and water, had a banana before bed

>>42777292
Try to find whole grain rye bread from coarsely ground flour. Just being whole grain isn't everything, mechanical processing also affects the glycemic index.
Skip the butter, skip the mayo, put loads of veggies on it. Tomato, cucumber, bell pepper and lettuce go with pretty much everything.
This way instead of 3 barely filling sandwiches you can have 2 mountains of vitamins and fiber with more volume and without most of the calories.

Anyone losing weight on anti-depressants?
I think it's time for me to take the long overdue meeting with my doctor so I can do something about this.
You hear some bad stories about people ballooning on them, but it's hard to know how much that can be combatted with just normal calorie restriction.

>>42779882
I've gotten 2300kcal today while I need 1700.

Yesterday was double the intake, and feeling shame triggered the second binge.

>>42779943
>Anyone losing weight on anti-depressants?
Here, also heavy antipsychotics. Gained around 20kg from starting them within a few months.

>>42780012
>heavy antipsychotics
Schizo?

>>42779712
shoo shoo progress goblin

>>42780012
That sucks. I've been in this state for so long, maybe I should just keep going and wait until next year. Haven't killed myself yet.

If you guys think you got it in you, please get off the SSRI's. Even if it's gradual and takes a while. They are pure ruiners

>>42778807
Not having my moobs and love handles shake like I'm walking in an earthquake

>>42780028
That was the initial diagnosis, but turned out it was *just* severe depression with psychosis.

>>42780059
Lost the same 20kg while being on them by just watching what I was eating.

>>42780077
I'm alive thanks to "pure ruiners".

>>42780105
Oh okay that's good to know (losing it again).
I hope the meds helped/are helping you.

>15lbs gone in 2 weeks
How much fucking water was stuck inside me

>>42780179
I lost 6.5lbs in the last six days lol. I'll take it. Whether it's water or fat, it's definitely fuel for my motivstion.

>>42780179
What's your height/starting weight?

>>42779153
excelent, keep up bro, you're gonna make it!

PSA YOU CAN STILL LOSE 15 LBS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR WITH ONLY A 500 CAL DEFICIT

>>42777701
Yeah fried bacon and eggs in mayo are definitely better.

>>42780228
5'11 and start weight was 250 lbs

>>42780308
That's pretty nuts dude, diet/exercise?

>>42780338
Average cals per day is probably 1000. No exercise at all. Taking a multi-vitamin I know its too low but I haven't been hungry

>>42779023
Sorry anon

4chan is abane to nofap anyway. Turn off images

>>42778277
Cardio is at most joint damage and energy depletion

Weight lifting affects whole body musculature

>>42774636
You MUST change your attitude with food.
Do NOT eat or drink ANYTHING unless you need the nutrients to survive.
NO PROCESSED FOOD... EVER!!
You MUST exercise daily for AT LEAST an hour (walk, yoga, stretching, lifting, etc).
You MUST get MORE sleep

Been eating at 1k under TDEE for two weeks and haven't had a single erection, no matter how much I tug and pull.

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>>42780512
You MUST stop eating!

>>42780395
Start lifting 2 weeks ago.

>>42780515

Maybe you're a girl and just could never tell because of all your fat burying everything. Are you sure that's not a piece of floppy clitoral hood you're pinching?

>>42780543
Hmm

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>been fat my entire life, highest weight was 215 lbs.
>finally started to lose weight in 10th grade
>always kept track of everything i ate but struggled to keep things within 1,500 calories and less
>18 now and just hit 149.4 this morning
>still keep track of what i consume but now i struggle trying to eat enough calories to ensure i have a healthy weightloss
>just barely making it to a little over 1,000 calories a day due to little to no appetite

i'm feeling a lot of loose skin now. gonna continue doing 2 or 3 day fasts each week.

does anyone else play with their loose skin when lying in bed? it's kind of fun.

Wow sweet potatoes are fucking delicious. I used to hate them but now I love them.

>>42780628
Sweet potatoes are fucking delicious. Making fries out of them are great but I just like to heat them whole in the microwave for a bit and eat them plain. Same with regular potatoes.

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>brocolli is done and chicken breast is in the oven
how much brocolli should i prepare and chicken breasts should i prepare? my height 5'6'',weight,196

>>42780686
How do you expect anyone to answer that without any other relevant information?
Genuinely what do you expect?

>have burger and water
>feel full all day

>have exact same burger with fries and soda
>feel hungry a couple hours later

what is this black magic? something to do with insulin/GI?

>>42780686
However much you need to fit your calorie goals considering what you have already eaten.

What's the point of asking this after you have already cooked, though?

Why do you feel the need to post with an avatar on a message board that is anonymous, identifying yourself and linking all your posts together?

>>42780893
>something to do with insulin/GI?
Yep. High GI foods stimulate more insulin release. Insulin suppresses leptin signalling. So you feel hungry.

>>42780893
Long-term calorie balance / energy status. In case 1, your energy status was relatively high, in the second case it was low for one reason or another.

There are also semi-psychological factors such as sensory-specific satiety and hedonism; a greater variety of foods provides less satiety relative to an isocaloric monotonous meal, however this would not explain your specific situation since the calorie content is much higher in one case than the other.

Insulin is not involved in the suggested fashion, that is broscience (insulin is anorexigenic, so if anything it suppresses appetite, but all calories suppress appetite to some extent, [which hedonism can counteract - palatability suppresses appetite suppression])

>>42780980
>insulin is anorexigenic, so if anything it suppresses appetite
True, but what happens when the insulin spike ends a few hours later? Doesn't that lead to a "hungrier" state than with the high insulin?
Genuinely curious, you seem to know your stuff.

>>42780980
You sound like a physiologyfag so help a fatty out.

I have a severe food addiction, particularly to fast food and junk. I'll go really out of my way to get it. I'll eat at mcdonalds twice a day if I can.

I'm sick of being a slightly more socially acceptable junkie. I want to get off this shit. Is cold turkey the best way?

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Man, something happened today or is it just me?

I'm in the worst mood I have been in some time and I feel like absolute death, I work in tech and might lose my job, I also overate a bunch today even though I'm on a cut

I think the only thing that will help me dig myself out of depression will be to wake up early everyday and go to the gym

7 days a week, the point is i can spend 30-1hr on the treadmill just walking or hit the stairs

I'm not in a good spot right now, and really have nobody to talk too

I'm about to go eat a huge meal in a few minutes even though I'm on a cut

I have been through a lot and usually can get better within days but today it is different

I'm losing it fellas, I'm losing it

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>>42781082
I had a shit day too and I don't know why but I got done losing my shit last week. Stay strong fatso, don't ruin your cut

>>42781074

As long as its not something where the witdrawl will kill you, cold turkey is always the best.

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survived my operation

>>42781184
W-what kind?

>>42781250
gallbladder removal

>>42781040
That idea is controversial and simplistic and the hypothesis is largely associated with a set of people who have built their careers on it, and continue pushing it to this day. The acceptance of this hypothesis is quite stratified according to low-carb bias - Book salesmen like Ludwig and Taubes rattle on about it, but they are fringe in terms of the actual science. Food intake and satiety regulation is a very complex phenomenon so immediately there is something suspect about people promoting some comic book mechanism to explain all of it - especially when obesity is notably absent in many societies consuming highly insulinogenic high-carb diets past or present. As for the glycemic index, there is also a problem with corruption as the same researchers suggesting it has relevance also run the clinics that test GI.
A lot has been written about the insulin thing, both the satiety aspect of it and the supposed "fat-storing properties" of it.
This can be a start perhaps:
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2016/01/always-hungry-its-probably-not-your.html

>>42781074
Unfortunately I can't help you with that since these problems are very individual and there is no-size-fits-all solution. So the first thing I'd say is that, depending on subjective severity and the amount of success you have or have not had on your own, external help can be a good idea (i.e. a nutritionist, therapist or whoever would be qualified for your constellation of problems)

Personally I do think that cold turkey is the best way - but I recommend against fasting. I would recommend a reduced-palatability diet as an option, but not everybody is compatible with that. Penn Gillette did the potato-only diet for a while to reset his eating behavior and it obviously worked for him. Spudfit went further for memes and did the potato-only diet for a year. Obviously these are extreme examples and here too it may be helpful to have a doctor/nutritionist.

>>42781250
kidney stones

>>42781184
goddammit boogie you were supposed to die on the table.

>>42781184
Were you cutting weight?

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>>42781304
>>42781289
fuck you guys

>>42774636
how accurate is the tdee calculator in this thread? It's showing about 2,800 tdee. That cant be right

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Weight in today lads, lost 2 pounds and a quarter.

Obligatory post
SW: 212
CW: 173
GW: 140

Pretty happy lads, one more pound and Ill be 40 pounds down. Over halfway there and feeling really good. No going back now.

>>42781184
>>42781328
>>42781335


What the fuck? Was macht der Drachenlord denn hier? Etzala ist aber Schluss. Das kann doch nicht sein, dass der Lügenlord auf /fit/ postet

>>42781304
>>42781321

I simply mean you are losing weight and had a complication with your organs?

You have kidney stones, that can be a result of a weight cut or drinking too much soda etc....

You're fat, nobody really cares just trying to find out what caused the stones at such a young age.......

>>42781332
There are two. Try them both and MFP.

Make sure your info is accurate (I recently discovered I'm shorter than I thought), and set your activity level to sedentary.

>>42781328
That's gigantic christ.

>>42781382

Come on, stop fooling anyone. This is not you.
The guy in those pictures can't even speak proper german, I HIGHLY doubt that he is that literate in english.

Using this guy just to post in a /fat/ thread is really really sad desu

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>>42781422
I was asking the guy a question, you think I'm him same posting?

>Am I being trolled or something?

>>42781347
>>42781422
fick di

>>42781382
>>42781440

yes i fat... and you? of usa?
50 percents of the peoples fat?
guy shut up

>>42781440

Ah yeah sorry, mixed that up. Anyway, the guy in the picture used to be (or is) a german "youtuber". He actually took all the content down from his page, but a lot of people make fun of him and there are a lot of "best of's" on youtube.
He calls himself Drachenlord and I think he is a really sad individual

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2kNhbmDpuE

>>42781479
HALD JUR MAUF

>>42778807
To not be huge, have an easy time gardening, be more confident and have a boyfriend.

>>42781524
faggot

>>42781524
NOFATCHICKS

>>42780598
Yes. I have a lot from being so big and I do play with it in bed or the bath. It's disgusting to look at, but it feels calming to play with. It's like I'm living silly putty.

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>>42778807
In order of importance

1. Diabetes in remission. Assuming my A1C holds at normal values in October, I'll get off medication and be on my way.

2. Get my body fat % to 15 or lower (whatever I need to get rid of all the excess fat)

3. Build muscle to not look like shit (already lifting 6 days a week)

4. Walk a marathon next March

5. Climb Mt. Fuji next summer

6. Maybe get a member of the opposite sex interested in me at some point. (obviously this isn't under my control, really)

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>cheat day starts in exactly 24 hours

>>42781668
>never gonna make it

>>42781668
Why wait, man. Starting a day early will be a drop in the ocean. Enjoy your Friday AND your Saturday.

>>42781633
Diabeetus?

Start fasting bro
one day fast to 16:8 IF
one day fast once per week
I gurantee you diabeetus will be gone

>>42781810
That goes against most advice I've encountered. Are you a doctor, and can you explain why you think it will work? I'm not trying to call you out, I'm interested.

I've been told that skipping meals can be dangerous for blood sugar levels, not helpful. I've never had a hypoglycemic problem, but I assume I might if I attempt IF while on medication for insulin resistance as well.

Maybe more importantly, my understanding is that diabetes is never gone. It's only sleeping.

>>42777701
'Sup, Poland here, at least it's easy for us to get some cheap veggies. Good luck, you're gonna make it.

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>after a year at my new job get my first chance to visit this amazing festival for a few days
>breakfast at a four star hotel, dinner from ramen/burger food trucks for free at the festival, supper if I wanna, since the company pays
>I instantly fuck up my IF and stick to three meals, but these three consist of unhealthy shit in the morning, big burgers later and sometimes McDonald's before sleep

I was honestly terrified when I came back and had to check my weight. Seems like I put on 2 kg of weight, but it's still scary how easy it was because of my mentality of "free" food.

I was around ~143 kg, now I'm around 145 kg. Lost 5 kg thanks to IF and now I know how easy it is to be stupid, so I'll continue and try dropping below 140 before October starts.

>>42777694
>>42777650
Creatine is used for exercises that are intense (a fast sprint, weightlifting,etc), I don't remember if it does work much for steady state cardio.
But yes, creatine makes you retain water, the best way to avoid this is to take the lower dose of 5g everyday instead of "charging up" by taking 20g for 5 days and then 5g as a way of maintaining.
It doesn't make you gain fat, so if you don't mind a little water retention then there's no issues at all.

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>tfw try to use pics of people on /fit/ who've made it as motivation but then I look down and see my fat stomach and feel depressed
Anyone else here never venture out of /fat/ because the progress pics in the other threads make you feel sad as fuck about your flabby body?

>>42781868
Youre not skipping meals, just staying empty for as long as possible. calorie intake is the same
well I go by Dr. Jason Fung's rsearch. Prediabetic symptoms were gone with IF

how do you feel about nonfats infiltrating the /fat/ general to fuel their anorexia?

n-not to say i am one

>>42781184
Shouldn't have eaten all those cans of pepperoni Ricky

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>>42782225
So basically you want to hang around us /fat/fucks because you consider us so grotesque it's motivation for you to self-harm. T-thanks.

>>42782225
>nonfats
Once you start using terms like these you become what /fph/ laugh at.

Visit here whenever you want to, no one cares as long as you're helping. But if you're anorexic, just try to fix that, instead of being a fucking idiot. Or go to /r9k/ to cry about it with others, I bet they have some anorexia threads.

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>tfw at peak body few years ago (not anymore)
>teenage hormone imbalance fucked it up
>wide-ish hips and gyno
>tfw doctor said "it'll clear on it's own" in highschool
wtf

>>42782273
no anon, it's not like that
I just like the not eating motivation and talking to other bros about hard diets.

>>42782106
Why would it make you feel sad? You just lose the weight and look like them eventually.
Unless you're me and too far gone for your stomach to ever look good. If that's the case, you'll still look better than having a beer belly.

>>42782195
I misspoke, I meant waiting a very long time before eating. My understanding is that to avoid hypoglycemia when you eat, and that you eat with some frequency, matters.

But are you suggesting one day of IF, or IF every day and one day of water fasting? Your original post was hard to follow.

And what symptoms did you have of pre-diabetes? I had no outward symptoms of diabetes. I never have, although hopefully now I never will since it's under control.

Lastly, pre-diabetes is curable. Supposedly diabetes isn't.

>>42782225
>>42782398
As long as I don't have to hear about the damage you are doing to yourself, do whatever you want.

But if you ever mention it I'm going to tell you to stop and get professional help, because this entire thread is really about health and not just weight loss.

I went over calorie count today and that was bad.

But unlike every other time I've done that in my life, I kept it sane. I'll be ending the day on 1900 calories, which is 300 calories over my target, instead of going completely off the rails into the 3000+ zone like I used to.

I dunno if it's much of a victory but it oddly feels like one.

>>42782311

not gyno, just fat.

You'll have this problem until you cut HARD. That fat on your chest has probably been there since childhood and it will be some of the last fat to go

>>42782492
It is one. You're beginning to believe.

>drop down to 224 on my diet from 255
>plateau for weeks
>finally lose my motivation
>say "fuck it", drink regular soda instead of diet, eat massive pieces of cake instead of an apple each night for a week straight
>weigh myself this morning
>224

WHY WAS I NOT LOSING WEIGHT IF I COULD BE EATING LIKE A FAT FUCK ALL ALONG REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>42782537
https://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html/

>>42776688
if you weigh yourself every day you can do some moving average stuff to even out the fluctuations

>>42778807
1. Get back to the weight I was before I started stress eating-only 10 pounds to go!
2. Be able to fit into smaller clothes
3. Fuck traps

>>42782545
I was about to say that my body comp hasn't shifted more than 0.2%, but I guess at my weight that does correlate to just about where I was. Fucking exercise physiology. Shit changes so much that the degree I ironically obtained in it years ago is already obsolete.

>>42782498
I'm constantly shocked at how many fat fucks here think they have gyno.

It isn't a common occurrence. How likely is it that everyone here just happens to have it, when the obvious explanation is that is just fat?

I think there's a trend on fit to describe fat tats as gyno incorrectly though, as if that's the term for them and not an entirely different condition.

>>42782570
You can do it man. Just make sure the traps wash first.

So...I'm trying to fast for the first time (for experimentation's sake) and white 8AM-4PM I was hungry, it finally went away. Good sign or not? And is diet soda or coffee a no-no while fasting?

>>42782950
>white
>while*

>>42782950
Diet soda is a no-no. Coffee is not as long as you drink it black.

i fucked up lads

ate the rest of a small bag of candy, probably 300 cals

i'll barely be under maintenance today after dinner

on the bright side i went to the gym for the last 3 days and ate at/under my goal for all those days, and my progress is still good

>dinner could be 100 calories lighter if I didn't put a single tablespoon of olive oil in it
God damn it, I was just trying to do something different instead of the usual soy sauce

I mixed 1 tablespoon of dijon mustard, vinegar and olive oil with a bit of salt and pepper and it tasted great. The calories all came from the oil, though. Next time I'll skip it and see what happens

>>42783069
>still under maintenance
All is good, dude

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>>42783112
Dude, just halve it. And coconut aminos are a great sub for soy sauce.

>>42782997
Ah, I'll give up the fizz then. I've been eating a lot in the past week, but after fasting today I'm back to the lowest point I have been since grade 5. Feels good even though it's just a number.

>>42783509
How's the sodium on that thing? Looks pretty good, though I'll have to order it somewhere cause apparently it's not a thing down here in the third world, I have never heard of it

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Do I have that Female breast thing? Will cutting and building up muscle help?

>>42775826
I work at pepboys in a garage in south texas.

super humid. and I had like. just been getting my size down from a 38-34 waist where I look good

and I cheated for a bit and was something like a 35 comfortably but look bloated again and my love handles were showing more

and man. let me tell you.
I was sweating so goddamn hard in that damn garage and drinking so much water. I soaked shirts so heavy I had to change em out once a day half way through my shift.


now I don't sweat as much, but I've been eating above what I need to be and not healthy.

but today marks a new day. I moved out of my family's house again. I work around the corner from the salvation army here. and around the corner from there is a 24 hour fitness center I'm signing up for.

then later find myself boxing classes.

but tomorrow I go and get some healthy snacks and some turkey and Swiss for my main meals. and spinach.

time to get back on track boys.

I was stress eating cause of the relationship with my family.

did bench press in between a big scary black guys sets today

trying to do my 5x5 as normal and on the 4th set he starts telling me to keep going after i finish my 5th so i do 2 more reps and then feel like i was gonna die

then failed on the 3rd rep of the last set

would have been fine if i just did my 5x5 ;_;

he seemed nice and meant well so i forgive him for ruining my routine