what's the point of getting /fit/ if all my nights

King of your domain. Feels good.

>>42720460
only thing you have to do is go outside man.
it's that simple.

Better only my nights like that than all of the day. It's very calming to me.

>>42720605
what if it's both night/day

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>>42720460
because you can look at yourself in the mirror and feel a small sense of pride for a few seconds

>>42720460
Because it's better than also being fat

>>42720460
looks pretty cozy desu.

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>>42720460

I don't know man, I had thought for a long fucking time and it broke me.

Maybe the well and only true thing a man has before he has other people is himself, his spirituality and his own philosophy. Outside of that maybe everything is not assured.

>>42720460

Have you tried talking to people?

Find stuff to be passionate about, faggot. Do some good in the world. Be good to yourself (fitness) and good to the world (fucking accomplish something). Only then will you be a whole being.

>>42722567
no

>>42720460
That shit is comfy tho, throw on your favorite game and enjoy life.


But you also have to be busy most of the day and socialize to get the full results. too much of a good thing etc

I LIFT FOR THE BEACH
enjoying your pump alone is great too

>>42720591
>go out
>nothing to do
>go back in

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no gf thread?

>>42720460
Tbh i just love flexing in the mirror lookibg at myself, dont need anyone else for it either, its worth it.

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>>42723050
legitimately made me kek, and not simply blowing air through my nose

>>42722552
in the end, our bodies are the only thing we truly own.

you didn't really expect lifting to fix all your problems did you?

>>42720460
>shake
>food
>sips
>ice cream
>all before bed
I too like to shit myself while lucid dreaming.

>what's the point
Sips.

>>42723050
Go to a forest preserve/state park and walk around you fag, it's simple and people almost always say hello while they walk/jog by

>>42723050
Ive personally been learning how to play basketball
I'm pretty shit but the rules are simple enough, it's mainly technique based and where I'm from there's usually a couple of guys playing at all times

>>42720460
or>>42722552
you could just become a wizard
and walk your path

go to a club and fuck bitches

>>42723050
>nothing to do
Lol nah. You've just fucked your brain up so badly by being a shut in for so long that you have no interests.

So that you feel healthy and not a fat fuck? You can look in the mirror with pride? You relieve stress by working out? Or just building the stamina to fuck your gal's brains out once you find her?

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>Am bedbound at home for illness
>Only time I leave is for when I go to hospital
>Earliest time I can expect to recover is Febuary/March at the earliest
Cherish what you can do, OP.
I just shitpost and I'm trying mewing to improve my jawline. Got around 6 months to kill before I can even think about stepping into a gym again.

You get so much harder wanking off in the mirror

>>42720460
now this is the most relateable post

>>42724007
100% true

>>42720460
Because when you're depressed alone and look like shit, you have no external point of reference to send you into a positive feedback loop.
When you're depressed and remember you're fit, you can look in the mirror and see the joocy cunt staring back at you and flex.

Nights are for relaxing and sleeping.
You should be getting up early.

>>42723286
>a stranger said hello to me
>now my life surely isn't empty

>>42720460
>those details on ben&jerry ice cream cup
masterpiece

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>go to a bar
>step inside
>look around
>loud music, people shouting
>try to find the bartender
>people bumping into me and calling me an asshole
>finally find him
>screams at me asking what I want
>tell him no clue, never drank before
>roasties next to me start shrieking like hyenas
>fight me way back through the crowd and leave
>spend the rest of the night hatelifting until gym closes

I just want to be normal.

>>42725822
yeah i hate bars too. i wish there was a place people gathered to socialize that didn't involve drinking or smoking.

>>42724003
Fuark. I am with you, my son. My reps for thee this week.

>>42725907
Book club

>>42725953
the fuck is that

>>42725907

I prefer to hit up an Irish type of pub with some friends along on the few times I do it. Tends to be a lot more laid back in my experience.

>>42723979
This is me so much the first time I saw it I was taken aback
I even play hockey and have my gear set up similarly

>>42725822
>going to the bartender without knowing what you want from him
If you don't know, just pick something.
Decide if you like it by drinking it and assessing the experience.

>>42725957
It's a big book that you beat people to death with.
It's good exercise and allows you to meet new people.

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>lifting to get friends

>>42725822
different kinds of bars man.
I know a good one that's more up scale you could say. no loud music, all music is jazz too. whole room is quiet enough not to be able to ease drop on others but not so loud you have to shout to order something. prices not stupidly high, just have more high end stuff.
I've gotten my best lays there.
try to find a bar like that. sounds like you found a normie bar, those are always trash for shitheads looking to brag, get wasted, puke in the bathroom, and try to start fights inorder to get single moms on their dick.

If you are alone at home, you might as well be naked, op

>>42726010
lelllllll

tip top meme friendo

>>42725961

HOW DO I GET FRIENDS

>>42726027
I want a reason to wear clothes, to hide the shame of my body. I want a gf.

>>42726273
you gotta want them first

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>>42726304

I WANT THEM

>>42720460
that's the meme

getting big muscles will not get you pussy.

if you are a loner shut in with zero personality, then you will be forever alone.

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>>42720460
>tfw no gf who holds herself to the same standards as myself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW8sbCTNomE

>>42726328
what's the issue then?

>>42726353
I have a fat gf. She tells me she is fit. Its pretty funny. Bust my arse in gym five days a week. She does meme boxercise twice a week....okay.

>>42726491
Being fit is similar to being humble in that if you need to tell people you are, then you really aren't.

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I head down to the local game shop on saturdays and play some 40k or D&D. I have been told I don't look like I really fit in that kind of crowd but I get to meet people that share my interests at least.

>>42723867
D E L E T E

>>42723092
>tfw just got dumped
>4 years down the drain

>>42726951
I've been wanting to try that. Honestly, Dungeons and Dragons sounds like lots of fun. But you have to have friends to do it. And I just kinda flopped there.

I looked into something local and was told a gameshop near me runs a game there on Wednesdays. Showed up and I was the only one. Left 10minutes into the event crossing my fingers somebody would show.

Fuck Des Moines.

>>42723092
I'll bite, even if no one else does

>Haven't had a date in two years
>Just graduated from Uní in August
>Work shit landscaping job while looking for engineering job
>Made out with a girl last night for the first time since February at a bar. Got her number pretty easily.
>Text her the next day. She's completely uninterested in talking to me

When does the suffering end /fit/?

>>42726995
it doesn't it all goes downhill after 24 my man. The only thing to look forward to is having more money if you land a decent job but slowly your friends start moving away, getting married, not able to hang out, women become washed up or are married with kids/single moms etc.

>>42726995
never EVER text the next day anon

2 days at least

>>42722975
Not OP, but I'm tired of video games. I'm tired of anime. I'm tired of TV. I'm tired of screens. The worst part is my day is when I'm finally alone and have time to myself. I browse this website, full of deluded morons I hate, just to fill the time before I can sleep. Even when I go out with a friend or head to the range for archery, I still have to come home and feel my brain slowly turn into mush. It sucks.

>>42727118
let me guess, because texting the next day shows you're a cripplingly desperate autistic permavirgin right

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>>42727118
I done fucked up. I guess there's next time, r-r-right, anon?

>>42723239
>grab my machete
>cut off your fucking arm
>my arm now

If you're so funny
Then why are you on your own tonight?
And if you're so clever
Then why are you on your own tonight?
If you're so very entertaining
Then why are you on your own tonight?
If you're so very good-looking
Why do you sleep alone tonight?
I know
Because tonight is
Just like any other night
That's why you're on your own tonight
With your triumphs and your charms
While they're in each other's arms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah2NgBVC1ps

>>42725739
no but it feels nice. I remember feeling particularly down so I went for a walk one day and an old woman gave me one of those sincere smiles old women often have and said hello. Wasn't life changing in the slightest but it felt good to have some kind of connection.

Lifting is about challenging yourself and liking yourself enough to be able to spend sometime with yourself. Many of the things people mention IE: TV, Manga, and Reading, do not require that amount of self reflection. Lift big fucking weights, get a sense of community, become a better person, and sometimes be ok with spending a night alone.

>>42720460
Help fit, i went out to drink with a friend but she left and now I'm alone at the bar watching football,l. There's some cute girls watching football near me. What's a good conversation opener?

>>42723752
>>42723979
>>42720460
Please post more or give a source. These hit hard.

>>42720460
because you live longer

>feeling lonely
>go walk through a park
>cross paths with a woman
>"jesus loves you"
>spend the rest of the night thinking do i really look that miserable or do religious people normally say things like that
>rest of night ruined

sometimes i feel like i'm better off alone

>>42727353
youre supposed to motivate me, not depress me

>>42727364
Religious people say that a lot

t.churchgoer

>>42727364
How do you get depressed after God himself sent an emissary to lift your spirits? An all knowing entity realised you were alone and not much could be done, but to let you know that you are not alone. You have the love and warmth of Jesus Christ himself. Wow that's is quite the blessing. I hope you don't feel so alone. I think you will be just fine anon. Jesus loves you.

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There is no fucking justice in this world
>Date first gf for about two and a half years
>She cheats on me
>Ruins me emotionally for awhile, can't trust women, just be a sad sack for months
>Meet new girl, start to catch major feelings
>Finally feel I can trust and love again
>Date for 6 months, really enjoying it
>She cheats on me
I don't get it, I see them both being really happy and having a nice life, yet here I am being miserable and having to deal with the damages of what they did while they get off scot free

I just feel so alone and without support or care from anyone, like tonight
>Supposed to have friends over
>They all bail at the last second
>Text a friend who was supposed to come, ask if she wants to just go get food
>Read 10 minutes ago
>Even though she was snapping me like an hour before
What the fuck, like, I literally do not get it, when does it get better? I do not know where to go from here, I can't trust or depend on anyone in my life, it's just so boring and monotonous living this way

>>42727122
Sounds like manga is what you need!


Just kidding breh

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>>42723752
>left shoe on right foot
>shit's so fucked that the bro doesn't even care

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>>42727311

Did you offer to take her off trail and let her suck your cock?

This is my dream and /fit/ness is merely a means to an end to get milf/granny pucci

>>42723286
>going to these at night
i dont have any less than an hour drive from me and they are not open late.
even if they are, i'd be afraid of the people i would meet

even during the day, i've tried to pick up hiking. drove over an hour to a park and walked. it's depressing because the only people you see are people with friends, couples and families.

the only people alone are old guys. and the majority of the time, people don't say hi to you

>>42727529
Understand that when you're cheated on in a relationship it's not you who's made the mistake.
Just be glad you actually FOUND OUT and that you can drop the dead weight.
You'll pull through fella, just learn from these things that's all you can do

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>>42727616
Hard to drop the dead weight when all you think about is her texting the guy about how great the sex was and how she wants to drain his balls. Which you found out mins after she kisses you and says she loves you.

>>42727614
>t's depressing because the only people you see are people with friends, couples and families.

this is exactly what "normal' people (people with friends, gf, etc) don't get

sure its so easy to say "just go out and do these things alone, meet people, don't be shut in your house". and i get that. but when you go out to places to do things, and you're the only one doing it alone, and you're surrounded by people with their friends, family, significant other, etc, you don't understand how depressing it is

going to a bar, club, restaurant, hike, anything alone. it's very easy to say to do it when you know you have people around who you would ask.

and it doesnt have to do with "being comfortable being alone with yourself" either. it has to do with the fact that you arent there alone by choice, knowing you're doing it alone, you're there alone by default, knowing no one wants to be around you, no one cares about you, and all these other people get that so easily

>>42727616
Yeah I realize that, but it's me who has to feel like shit
I recognize that they're shitty and not worthy of my care, and I don't care about them, but it still feels like shit to look back on a relationship and feel gross knowing that all those things they said to you was a lie
The second girl even cheated on me with someone who I had considered a close friend. I have no interest in people anymore

>>42727649
this shit is exactly why i dont give a FUCK about getting into a relationship. women (or guys for girls) are not worth getting upset over when they do this shit. think about the fact that she doesnt give a shit about you and months/years later you're still thinking about it. they are fucking worthless, stop caring

by the way im a kissless virgin so please disregard my advice

I'm so fucking depressed

>Talk to girl every day for months, she's flirty and seems interested
>Start to get into discussing our personal lives, basically vent to eachother constantly
>Tells me she has feelings for me, but doesn't know what they mean, I say I feel the same way
>"I don't want to ruin what we have so let's take it slow and see what happens anon"
>I say ok
>In fucking love at this point

Fast forward a few weeks
>Wake up, check phone (she usually sent a good morning msg or shitty meme every morning)
>blocked
>last msg received at 4am
>"Anon this can't continue, I have a boyfriend and I love him more than anything in the world, I'm sorry but this is over"
>Crushed

Fast forward another few weeks
>Get a message from her
>She wants to stay friends
>I'm a faggot so I say ok
>She msgs me every day now, and I have to see her fucking profile picture with her boyfriend and her
>I block her, it's been nearly 2 weeks since

Feel like shit someone shoot me

>>42727646
Not the anon you replied to, but I felt the same way so often before I went cocoon mode.

Seeing other people laughing, smiling etc hurts so much. I'd just come home wondering wtf is wrong with me.

That sounds edgy af and I'm not trying to hate on other people for living their lives - they should be out there doing those things, but why can't I be a part of it? Where did it all go wrong?

>>42727701
ive been cocoon mode for basically my entire life so i really dont know any different.

for me it went wrong very early, probably around 12-13 years old, and its been this way for over a decade. i figure it went wrong being raised by parents who are very similar, shut-ins who hate people, nad being an only child autist

>>42727699
You did great by blocking her. She doesn't value you so don't give her the time. It's hurts but this is life champ.

>>42727339
How fucking new are you

>>42727614
Move the southeastern US - Punch a random person in the mouth - help them up and offer to buy them a beer.

Instant buddy.

>>42727727
The weird thing is she's tried to contact me like everywhere begging me to unblock her.
She even emailed me, I don't remember giving her my email.

Idk if she still has feelings for me but she's still with her boyfriend, my friends have seen them together around town doing all that lovey-dovey couple shit.

>>42725992
in a bag and next to a wall ?
Holy shit

>>42727805
She wants you as a backup. You're emotional insurance to her. Cease contact she isn't worth your time.

I was in a 10 year relationship that got real fucking bad. Emotionally ruined from how bad it got. Start dicking every hole I can get trying to fill the void in my heart. Finally give up and just take some time to myself. Around this time I started talking to this girl I work with, nothing really in common but just shoot the shoot with her. Kinda end up being good friends with her, go over her apartment to watch net flicks and game of thrones. One night while watching tv together she leans on me, i just put my arm around her and it felt right ya know? Just like that the hole in my heart was filled. We been dating for a few months now and besides her being a shitty cook and doing nothing but cardio I really like her. Might even love her.

Just saying /fit/, don't try so hard. Sometimes what you need is right in front of you

Anyone remember the pillow fort guy from the girl friend threads a while back? Well that was me and did go over and tell the chicks house I was talking about, I told her I loved her and we fugged. Now we are in deep and she basically lives with me now. Never been happier /fit/

>>42727901
made any more pillow forts since?

>>42727928
Of fucking course, I just do that shit anyways but I got a bit of the tism

>>42727877
Pretty much what I thought

I just wish I didn't have feelings for her, This whole thing would be much easier for me

>>42727942
w-what about road trips?

>>42727966
Haven't had a chance yet but we are planning to go drive up to Salem around Halloween and NYC around Christmas to ice skate and see the Rockefeller tree

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I am a very lonely 27 year old kissless virgin. I believe that existence is a curse and the only constant in life is suffering. Right now I'm in grad school, not entirely sure if I'll even graduate, and I honestly don't see myself living beyond 30, if I ever make it there. I have put my loneliness into words so often that I have come to the realization that no language exists to properly express my feelings properly. I have recently over the past year made real, true real-life friends for the first time and I love them dearly but ultimately, nothing is keeping me either besides my own cowardice.

I am tired of living life as an unattractive male. I also do not connect with 99% of people I meet on any fundamental level. I can talk to cute girls with no problems and I have several cute female friends (mostly taken and all that which is fine but good goddamn finding single girls I could feasibly date is rough.) I am not a superhero but I have gained the power of invisibility.

>>42727985
Life is bleak and austere, but it has a kind of beauty in that. I myself live only for the small, rare moments of love that seem to come around and around. The smile of a girl I love, even if she doesn't love me back at times, or the quiet pattering of rain or the first breeze of fall weather. Life is bleak, for me at least, and I know for you too. But I wait and I watch and I work for those small moments. I do not give up.
>I have put my loneliness into words so often that I have come to the realization that no language exists to properly express my feelings properly
This is true, to an extent, of everyone, and deeply true to those who have suffered. Words are only an approximation of meaning; at times, they bear only the subconscious biases of the audience. There is something inexpressible about the raw soul.

>>42722522
This.

Only your self image and esteem matter in the end. Do what makes you look at you with pride, and it will make you happy.

>>42723867
pls don't remind me

>>42727122

I found myself in a similar position last year. Time to start finding some hobbies, guy. I suggest hobbies that require a degree of intentional focus and mindfulness. Netflix, gaming, all that out the window.

>>42727338
>"Hi, I'm anon, are you enjoying tonight's game"
Then again I'm not much less of an autist

>>42727364

Religious people who do shit like that are really on another plane. I have come to the conclusion that not every religious person replaces the social aspect of their life with the need to touch 'God' or achieve some kind of spiritual enlightenment, but those that do are usually really out of touch and not the kind of people you would associate with.

My grandmother is one such person, she has fallen for cults before and today is a very devout Baptist, the kind that believes Baptists were there before any other Christian branch.

Anyway, I guess that sort of thing is specific to here in America, with our churches that are more like cults and our pastors that are more like demagogues leading their own tribes splintered off of larger organizations than anything.

>>42726995
Hey, remember how horny and in the moment she would have been. Then you text her and shes probably hung over, on the shitter and hasn't even showered yet. Wait a week or 2 then send her a text. Something along the lines of "Heyya :P I'm off to -Insert Bar or something place name- at like 8, you should come and have a drink. I hear you tend to get a bit frisky on your third -insert whatever she drinks-? ;)" and go out whether she hits you up or not and go from there. Chicks love a guy who has his own life and hits them up when they want.

>>42720460
Stop drinking sips and maybe it'll turn out better fag

>>42727118
>>42727156

Intention needs to be set from the start. If you're just getting the number for the sake of getting the number, then you will turn up with nothing.

Remember when you get a number it's just a means by which to see her again, and she HAS to know that. If it's too casual the girl will always flake.

>>42728134
Thanks or the advice. I was autistic in high school, but managed to become pretty charismatic in college, at least friends-wise. I just struggle with anything flirting related

>>42728176

You should also consider that the next day, the girl is in a different headspace. She could be having a hangover, diarrhea, etc. and you'll have to build her emotional state back up again.

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>>42720460
>Eating Ben and Jerry's
That's how you know you're a pleb.

>>42728333
>trips
>implying wealthy piano was a pleb

w-what

>>42727901
I remember anon. Good for you bro

>>42728179
Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbfFLt1a8Dk
And read the way of the superior man (I'm still making my way through it)

I have always been flirty and Charismatic but have struggled with the close. Had a 4-year relationship that ended, got halfway to in shape and started banging every date I had. I am honestly bored with sex, for now and want to work on myself physically before I look for "the one"

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i feel so lost guys
my job sucks, my gains are stalling, i'm getting older at an alarmingly fast rate and the only girl i actually like being around is a lesbian

>>42728411
>>42728411
Start by changing your words. My current job is to make ends meet until I switch to something better.

ive achieved a decent physique and making gains is so much harder now that ive come this far. But it makes all progress even better

I'm a man and men age like fine wine. Only getting more sophisticated, richer

And boy am I going to pound some lesbian pussy soon. Hope she brings a friend

>>42722552
no shit nothing is assured

what sort of stupid shit is that

do you think JFK was planning to get shot in the head? No. He was thinking about getting some pussy later and BOOM

LBJ's hitman got him

>>42728446
I appreciate what you're saying here. I sometimes dig myself into these ruts.
I don't think I'm smooth enough to talk my way into some dyke pussy though.

>>42720460
You could drink every night. That's hazardous to your health of course. You could toke every night if it's legal where you live. That might be pretty comfy. Has drawbacks too but I'd prefer that than simply being alone sober. I know I will probably never stop being alone. At this point I wouldn't feel anything if my family died.

Being fit feels good even if you're subhuman and never shirtless. If you're fit you have more testosterone.

>>42728134
>Chicks love a guy who has his own life
Exactly, and that comes back to

>>42727410

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>>42728597
I don't really have friends, I am a lone wolf and women can respect that if you respect yourself. I have been screwed too many times to trust anyone but myself.

Do you guys feel better or worse after fapping? Does it make a difference what you fap to?

>>42722530
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>>42722530
>>42722530
>>42722530
>>42722530
>>42722530

>>42728694
mild short-lived gratification..and disgust

>3 years ago
>Jesus fucking Christ was it really that long ago
>had group of friends that I hung out with a lot, worked out together, went out drinking
>never been so happy in my life because prior to that for about 5 years I was friendless spent every night alone no gf
>the good times last for a year
>I meet a girl
>start dating her
>slowly see my friends less and less, honestly I blew them off on going out to be with my gf many times. It was my fault
>after a year and a half my gf dumps me
>now all my friends have girlfriends
>never see them anymore
>back to spending every night alone
>it's all my fault

I mean I saw them a few days ago we all went and had breakfast but it had been months before that. I have other acquaintances but I'm never invited out to do anything. It's like people like me but don't actually want to hang out with me idk

>>42728728
Holy fuck. Are you me? Down to the timing too. Only difference is she cheated on me but I'm still with her. Haven't worked out since I started dating her 3 years ago. Kept trying to get back in it, but end up not... just finished my first week again. I hope I could keep it up

>>42728740
>she cheated on me
When was this? If I got cucked like that I start feverishly lifting immediately.

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But OP, that looks comfy as fuck, I love my solitude when it's available to me

>>42728750
yeah, but I doubt you'd feel the same when it's the only thing available to you

>>42728745
Well around 2014 I went to study abroad in Germany and fucked a prostitute. I came back and during the rest of that year and the next things felt weird and I find out she cheated on me for a bit after I came back so I spilled the beans about Germany. She continued it a little and that really fucked me up, but I felt like I couldn't lose her. Now I feel apathetic to her and feel like I need to break it off. The only motivation I have to lift is to find a better girl. Funny enough, the first time I got in to lifting and /fit was 2012 after my other ex also cheated on me.

>>42728765
idk man, my family has a history of being alcoholic shut ins, I try to force myself out to socialise but there's something so appealing about being on my own.

>>42728728
sometimes you got to make an effort and do some work to find something to do such as calling/texting people and asking them what they have going on during the weekend. sometimes they will invite you to something, you can ask to tag along(when appropriate), or they have nothing going on in which case you can come up with something to do.

>>42728781
You're probably right. I feel like I'm bothering people when I do this because if they wanted to see me and hang out with me I figure they would invite me but maybe I just need to put myself out there more.

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>>42720460
>tfw you don't want friends but you want a gf or a fwb
Pretty retarded isn't it I wish I felt differently
Pretty retarded indeed just destined for failure with unreasonable feelings like this

>>42727075
Too many feels. 27, all the friends I have left never want to/have time to hang out. Clubbing is starting to feel weird. all girls my age that are single are fat or have kids. After bills I have about $100 a week to play with. The only thing i look forward to is sleeping in on the weekend.

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I don't get why you people don't try to use the time you have while staying in your house every day, i picked up a hobby that could maybe turn itself into a job someday (working in 3D, Sculpting or creating VFX and a bit of animation) and thats why i do every day, it feels better than literally wasting time playing video games like i did before.

>>42720460
Better than pic related but weak

>>42728833
Already tried doing that. I don't have any artistry in me. Just destined to be a consumer I'm afraid.

>>42720460
I hated night because they felt so lonely, the day is over, everyone is going to bed and I couldn't sleep so I got a night job so I could sleep all day and be up all night.

>>42728869
Well then if you are into fitness then buy a punching bag pick up some lessons of boxing muay thai whatever and train train train at home every night. Really there is a ton of possibilities.

>>42726328
You have to put yourself out there and be vunerable, you have to learn by eating shit at it. Go talk to people you want to associate with aske them what they are doing say you're new and ask if you want to chill. Keep up with normie shit like sports as long as youre fit and decently coordinated you can also play ball with them and watch games, easier to form relationships with more people liking what others like.

>>42727221
>And if you're so clever

aaaay i love the smiths anon

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>>42727901

Honestly, yesterday there was a thread in which anons discussed bipolar disorder and this shit helped me a whoooole lot to get over my recent break up

i even unblocked her on any form of social media

Come to realize that overthinking and being a miserable sad fuck for days has been enough

>>42729016
What were the take aways from the thread

>after ex dumped me
>deleted her on all social media
>secretly hoped she would reach out to me
>a year later and she never said a word to me

I'm a lot better than I was say 6 months ago regarding it but it still hurts from time to time

>25 years old
>have ADHD, socially awkward, also weird as fuck
>kissless virgin, never even asked a girl out or been desired by one
>haven't had friends since I was literally 12 years old
>only child and rarely see small extended family and never in contact with them
>no friends in high school = not learning how to socialize = no friends in college = no friends post-college
>working a shit job because i cant get into grad school and don't really care
>basically been a shut-in for my entire life

>get flat out annoyed and pissed off interacting with people and listening to the shit they talk about
>literally do not care about trying to get a girlfriend, have sex, or even make friends or hang out with people, but it doesn't matter because everyone hates me anyway and i know that everyone knows im a pathetic autistic loser from the moment they meet me and want nothing to do with me other than forced interactions and if they saw how i live they would be completely aghast and ditch me
>have terrible relationship with parents even though i live with them because they are the same type of shut in people hating asshole that i am
>literally cannot remember any times in my life where I have ever been happy

Op that picture has been me since I was 12 years old

>>42729032
A lot anon basically if you have time and please take it read:
http://gettinbetter.com/fiftyways.html
http://www.sharischreiber.com/BPDlove.html
http://www.sharischreiber.com/fallout.html

and
https://www.reddit.com/r/BPDlovedones/comments/3xot4w/expecting_the_unexpected_a_bpd_breakup_guide/
>yesyes reddit

My ex checked not every box but a whole lot, no self harming while she did that once again she realized it was wrong
But the other stuff.

Basically:
>emotional abusing
>gaslighting
>belittling
>"sex with you is the best ever"
>can be completely cold to you in an instant
>irrational decisions based way more on emtions than woman normally do
>make you feel like you're crazy and doubting your actions

Give it a read, it helped me overcome sobbing the last couple of days anon

>>42720460
dude i wish my nights were like that. i get shitface and do stupid shit all the time even though i hate it but i cant control it

>>42727318
Spending every night alone is fucking shitty and eats away at you

>>42729047
Too relatable anon. Thanks for the resources

>>42729280
No problem my man read it thoroughly, if there are a hand full of points you can check than read more and realize it really wasn't your fault in the end
don't be sad that she is this way, just don't be anything about her, move on now

>>42725822
Going into a bar for young people alone is a bad idea. I like to hang around the ones full of old people. You can go in alone and nobody cares it's just normal

>>42729035

if it helps, there are thousands if not millions of other guys who are the same.

including me, the only difference is that I'm 2 years older than you. I'm basically just working, sleeping and waiting until my life is over.

>>42729035
>grad school
You're not helping yourself. What is your bachelor's in and what are you studying right now?

>>42727878
Those nights when we were watching a movie and she leans on me while I hold her were the best thing.

>>42729289
Any resources about avoiding triggers while in a relationship with a bpd

>>42729433
You can't avoid triggers anon there will always be triggers, either leave or accept that you'll not get what you want ou of the relationship

>>42727699
>>Talk to girl every day for months, she's flirty and seems interested
and here where you failed so bad.
She was flirty with you for months and you didnt step to her? Welcome to friendzone, you slow faggot

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>>42720460
I learned how to play an instrument aka the saxaphone and signed up to take a bjj class. Being fit and more confident made me a better all round person. JUST FIND STUFF TO OCCUPY YOURSELF WITH ONCE YOU GET FIT DON'T STOP THERE.

>>42720460
Own crib
Nice couch
Probably watching cable/satelite/youtube on a big screen tele
No girlfriend, kids, nosey parents to worry about or take care of.
Decent job if you can afford the above
Can make a call and have a big tittied sort of legal college escort show up on your doorstep with a dime bag and a case of beer.


Yeah fuck your miserable life.

>>42720460
It'd be worse if you were fat and lonely.

>>42727118
>not just texting whenever you want
beta as fuck

>>42727339
these are posted on a daily basis, newfriend

>>42720460
You can stop being lonely, but you can only give oral and receive anal and cuddle. If it's a girl you can also touch her feet. HAHAHAHAHA what you do say does that sound like a deal?

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>>42727901

I'm gonna join a men's hockey league probably next year which is exciting, haven't played since I was about 15. The thought of having something to use to body I'm working out for is nice.

Anyone have tips on how to enjoy time alone more when you're not lifting?

>>42723050
Have a fucking beer mate

>>42725822
>I'll have a beer
>You get a beer

jesus

>>42727529
You are dependent on others. Do you.

>>42722522
/thread

>>42720460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4dKwOMlS78

>>42720460
ITS TO GET FIT. WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

ENJOY THE SOLITUDE; EMBRACE THE SUCK.

>>42726012
this. kys op.

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>>42720460
Would you rather a night like this?

>>42731019
Unironically been there.

>>42731019

I could never understand getting drunk to the point of puking. It literally doesn't make any sense to me.

For me alcohol, drugs and cigarettes have always been a replacement for the ultimate pleasure that sex is.

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>>42722522
>you can look at yourself in the mirror
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>42720460
I forgot why I started, now I'm just going through the motions

>>42728765
This is what really scares me.

I've spent the last 4 years dating a girl I really love, but also enjoying my solitude. I don't really have any friends aside from her, and have no idea how to make them.

She has now decided that, "she loves me" but not romantically anymore. I'm depressed as fuck, but not feeling like the world is going to end.

My biggest fear is that I self isolate myself until the point that I completely forget how to be social.

That feeling of checking your phone even though you know there isn't a single person who would want to talk to you sucks. I have no idea how to get back from this point.

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>>42728065
>The smile of a girl I love, even if she doesn't love me back at times,
I know that feel my brother.
>meet really cool chick
>super cute
>not an airhead at all, fucking wicked smart
>she's a lesbo
ITS NOT FAIR

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Is there any pic more relatable than this?

>>42731144
I had a gf in that innocent range at 12.
>Not a single one since then
>Still not a virgin
>God damn I think in my 40s i'm gonna be lonely

oh well i'll just lift away the pain

I met a girl that I -really- clicked with but she's bipolar and an aspie. That may reflect poorly on me but I'm relatively well-adjusted these days.
I'm very conflicted on what I ought to do though.

>mom says "you've gotten really buff. You should be going out and trying to meet girls.
>she offers to drive me to the bar.
>I have never been to a bar let alone ever drank alcohol.
>I put on my best tank top
>I get dropped off at the bar and immediately I realize that I am under dressed the girls and guys are all wearing dresses/nice shirts.
>mom has already left.
>I stand there and feel really uncomfortable because it's loud and hard to hear because of the music.
>I go to the bar and after waiting for about 10 minuets the bar tender says "hey bud what can I get you?"
>I ask to see a menu
>"um we don't have a menu, just let me know if I can make you something,"he points to the beer levers and says "those are the beers we have on draft."
>I say ok. I'll have a shot of the beer with the red lever.
>the qt next to me bursts out laughing.
>the bar tender looks confused. "What?"
>I repeat myself
>the bar tender says "we don't do shots of beer?"
>I say, make it a whiskey then.
>the bar tender says can I see your ID?
>I explain that I don't have one because I never learned to drive.
>the qts are in stitches.
>the bar tender says, sorry bud, I can't serve you, and you can't be in here.
>I start fighting back tears trying to explain that I am 24. And allowed to drink.
>the bar tender waves over a big guard guy.
>this guy is massive probably 2/3/4/5
>he says ok bud it's time to go.
>tears are rolling down my cheeks now, and everyone around is laughing.
>I get escorted out.
>have to walk 3 miles home.
Wtf /fit/. I try and play by the rules of the normies, but I just get ridiculed. I wanna be chad so badly. It's not fair.

>>42731101
>That feeling of checking your phone even though you know there isn't a single person who would want to talk to you sucks
feel you

gf called it quits with me too, no friends around anymore all with their SO living somewhere else
no idea where i can meet a girl , turning 30 in 3 years now

>>42731144
Eh, when I was 17 I beta-orbited a girl hard for a while and fucked a prostitute in the same year.

I'd say it counts.

>>42727699
Yeah, do you guys live in the same city? If yes, you should've gone out with her after like a few days or less texting.

Don't worry anon, I've been there too, you'll get better, and you did the right thing, don't talk to her again, even if she breaks up with her boyfriend

>>42723298
Funny thing about basketball, I actually lost friends playing that fucking sport. They get so mad at you for being bad they treat u like shit. I guess they were shit friends from the beginning but they were all I had. Thats why I sticked to lifting, where nobody can tell me shit.

>>42731290
that how easy it for you to cry? maybe you should stay in

>>42727699
I had something similar to this but we are both in relationships, I don't talk to her anymore, but I still miss her, I ended up liking her more than my gf.

I thought about sending her a christmas card at the end of the year, to see if she wants to meet up again soon

>>42731290
I laughed so fucking hard I nearly choked

>>42731290
>I put on my best tank top
lel dude, stop trying so hard

>>42731478
>the lol effect

Admit it, you were afk anon.

>>42726491
>having a fat gf

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>>42731290
thanks anon i haven't laughed like that in a while

>>42727462
#blessed #wwJd #proverbswoman

>>42731478
Volleyball is kinda the same way, if you suck everyone hates you

>>42728740
>Only difference is she cheated on me but I'm still with her
Jesus Christ man, you're pathetic.

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>>42731478
this is why I hated team sports.

Anyways its for pussies. "pass me the ball knee kmeeeee" Yeh fuck u.

Real men know to go at it alone. I love lifting, putting my own tunes, enjoy proper physique not than unilateral development bullshit team sports do to you.

>>42731478
Then get better?

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>>42731086
to get fuckin shredded anon, that's why

>>42731307
We are exactly the same age. Same thing.

Just try to get out there dude...if you like music go to shows. That is what I'm doing. I'm also member of a political group. Like minded people, helps making friends if you can put yourself out there. Unfortunately I just sit in the back silently wish I could joke around like a normal person.

>>42731989
DESU even if I looked perfect I'd still suck at making small talk. I guess it takes practice like anything else.

Regardless of what people on this site say, if you are charming/cool you can get women who would be way out of your league to be interested in you. I know some guys who are very interesting, play in bands etc with beer guts and acne who date good looking women.

Being in shape helps a lot though...but not necessarily with finding a gf/partner. Spending all of your time lifting just so you can fuck hot white girls is pretty degenerate desu. You should be doing it for yourself.

>>42731992
i too sit in the back, i'm social but not around people i don't know
i look good, but still

my relationship was my "way" the reason i should improve myself
since its gone i don't feel like going out

>>42722552
good post

>>42731144
>twenty
>teenage

>>42731989
Right. Seems obvious to me breh

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>>42727529
Brother, I think I'd rather have girl cheat on me, so I could hate her whore ass and dump her immediately without any regret.

I dated a girl for 3 years. 3 fucking years of having someone you actually love. 3 years of having someone to talk about everything, even the deepest and most sensitive shit. I honestly saw her as THE ONE. She was my comfort after shit in my life has been piling up on me non stop. At least I had her , and that's all I cared about.
Then, one day, it was all over. Been more than a year now, and I am still not even interested in anyone else. It didn't end up this way because we fighted, or somebody cheated, or anything like that. It just ended one day. I honestly get it, and can't blame her.

I am not the best person there is.
>I suffer from non-meme depression, I tried to keep her away from it as much as I could, and that often created a distance between us.
>I am not doing well financially.
>I am stubborn as all hell.
>A lot more shit.
Despite everything, I can't forget her. I couldn't even keep her out of my life, even broke my "no friendships with exes" policy.

And this is why I'd rather get cheated on. It is something I'd hate a person immediately for. I could just carry on. And now I constantly beating myself over this. I hate myself for not being good enough for the only person I actually love. I hate myself because I was not able to give everything she deserved. I hate myself because I know it was my fault. I don't give a shit if I sound like some kind of fucking pussy faggot, but if you actually loved someone, not just had a crush or wanted to fuck, you'd understand.
Now I am going through all the garbage in my life alone, without having anyone to lean on. To comfort or reassure me. And this will either kill me, or make me stronger. So far it has ruined my body and my health. But I am determined to get in shape again. Still uncertain where it all will lead me, though.

>>42732014
Your appearance only matters if you are really hot or really ugly, and in either case I'm talking about genetically determined features that you can't change.
That isn't to say that one shouldn't pursue fitness, but that it won't help much with women.

>>42732144
And yes, I know it's hypocritical coming from someone like me, but you should be glad they showed their true colors, and it ended up being a worthless fucking whore. You wouldn't want to end up with someone like that in the first place.

>>42720460
pick up reading Anon, time for some intellectual gains, I started reading Stoic philosophy (Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus etc) and American Transcendentalism poetry (e.g Ralph Waldo Emerson, Walt Whitman ), can't help but feel happier after reading Nature by Ol' Waldo

>>42726019
Fuckin this

>>42726995
Simp ass niggas like you are the reason there are disgusting fatties out there that think they're hot shit

>>42732144
For all you know she did cheat on you. A friend of mine has been dating her bf for 2 1/2 years but cheating with me. She just told me she loved me a few days ago, so I stopped talking to her and told her to go back to her shitty bf. DESU I'd rather be in your situation than his.

>>42732170
A well-rounded citizen I see

>>42732170

Waldo went batshit insane tho.

>>42731341
We don't, but we've met before.
We went out for coffee and dinner after a few days.

But she lives a few hours away and both of us are busy so we only met up because I was in town coincidentally.

>>42731582
I feel like messaging her every day, I know she'll respond.

I just want to move on but I can't and it's destroying me. I'm going to msg her some day when I'm feeling really down, I can already tell.

Or maybe I'll just send one message telling her how much this is affecting me and how difficult it is for me to deal with, see how she responds and then either re-block or go from there.

>>42732144
I know exactly how you feel.

It's so much easier if you can hate the person because you no longer want to be with them, and you can turn that anger into something productive ("I'll show that bitch what she threw away").

But when it just falls apart and you're still on good terms and love the person, you can't be mad at them, only at yourself for not being good enough, this leads to self destructive behaviour. You feel depressed rather than angry and become unproductive, it's MUCH harder to move on when you still love the person and want to be with them.

crying again

yesterday i was happy actually about the break up

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>>42723752
>>42727339
Superior version

>>42732813
Tbh I wish I could talk to you fags in some chatroom so we can all vent our shit

>>42732908
would be great

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>>42732824
is it okay if I save this

>>42720460
Your chin doesn't stick to your neck when you lean back

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>>42720460
what faggot shooped a monster into this already perfect image

>>42723279
Lol

>>42726989
Www.roll20.net

t./tg/ crossboarder

>>42727196
Watch the edge, you might hurt yourself

>>42720460
To achieve your maximum potential physically.
The women will follow afterwards.
Also, it's important to be the best white man possible.
1488.

>>42733512
>1488.
?

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>>42733524
>hownew.ru

>>42733662
not new at all actually

>>42723050
DIG
A
HOLE

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>>42733704

theres only a point in getting fit if you want to get fit

>>42733907
the point of getting fit is to get fit and if you want pussy and want to get fit to get pussy then you got another point in getting fit which is to get pussy

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>>42723752
>>42723979
>>42720460

Get a hobby. Develop yourself. Stop thinking of yourself as bald guy but little girl with a passion in a bright, airy, and cheerful room - not darkened, closed-curtain room

>>42733662
>.ru
hehmda

>>42727699
>I block her

Good job anon, it's for the best old chap

>>42726019
The upscale ones are just as bad and the people are just as shitty

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>Think someone's my friend
>They just use me as someone to vent all their problems towards
I guess I'm just something you talk at.

>it's been 7 months and I'm still not over her
>It was my fault she left
>I have never ever been as close to someone as I was with her
>she was mutually close
>I only knew her for a few weeks

When does this nightmare end?

>>42728446
This is replacing one delusion with another.

>>42728610
mu nuggu

>>42735466
when you grow up and realize that shit like that happens to everyone and makes up less than 10% of life at best.

>>42729035
I'm in the exact same situation as you right now minus being a virgin or never being in a relationship. Except for I'm just now starting to go to community college. I have made 0 friends hate talking to people in class or interacting with anybody.

>>42735466
once you stop putting all your faith in someone else and realizing you're the only source of your own happiness

>>42736484
but that's wrong, socializing is a basic need for normal people

perhaps you're getting /fit/ for the wrong reasons? moving weights in the gym and adding more protein to your diet will not cure your depression nor your social ineptitude. this is the oldest /fit/ meme around.

>mfw all these people drepessed for no le gf

Like really what the fuck, im a kiseless virgin too and i dont give a fuck.

I lift to be hot af and turn down girls to damage their egos. (like how they did it to me ;_;)

>>42736517
Who said anything about socializing.

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>>42736773
>I lift to be hot af and turn down girls to damage their egos
You think girls are going to approach you just because you have abs, you autist?

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>start browing /r9k/ because I thought I could take solace from the fact that there are people worse off than me
>everyone there is literally me

>>42736895
Some do, pecs, arms, etc

>>42736912
Im germanic

>>42735698
If it was anybody else I would probably be fine, but I could tell her everything, and I didn't have to put on an act when around her. I could actually be myself around her.

>>42735361
I hope you find genuine nonjudgmental friends someday, anon. It took me 26 years but it happened. It may happen when you least expect it. Goddamn, this sounds like platitude nonsense.
Be good, anon. I believe in you.

>>42732144
Can I use this pasta?

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>>42727676
>by the way im a kissless virgin so please disregard my advice
4chan in a nutshell

>>42732147
Agreed

>>42731478
wtf I've never seen this. As long as you hustle on the court no one will hate you. If you just stand there and do nothing then I guess people wouldn't like playing with you but if you show effort like run for every rebound, play hard defense, even when breathing hard run in every play then they'll like you regardless how shitty your shot or dribble is.

>>42736773
that is the dream

I feel like wanting to hurt anyone's feelings goes against basic humanity but I can't help it

>>42730561
Put some music on that you enjoy. Don't be embarrassed to sing along. Sounds autistic, but it can help

>>42720460
i am so fucking depressed

>>42729339
this, Im a social retard but for some odd reason I find myself getting along with older or really seedy type people. Being only 23 years old, this worries me, I can't shake the feeling I ought to be hanging out with people my age.

Shit, I can get strippers and hookers to open up to ME, for Christ sakes I'm paying them to pretend to like me

>>42731582
It's called the grass is greener you faggot.

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Is /fit/ the most pathetic board in all of 4chan?

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>>42737886
Keep your chin up anon, we're all gonna make it

>>42725822
>go to liquor store
>stare at beer until you decide to buy one
>go to youtube
>look up different hard liquor mixes
You can be weird, but its your choice to be weird and retarded

>>42737934
Far from it. Doesn't mean it isn't pathetic

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>>42727338

"Hello mademoiselles might I be correct in assuming at least one of you is an archaelogist?"

You know what to do from there bro

>>42720460
>all nights end as a corporate shill
Seems alright. Do they pay well?

>>42737982
I don't know man. I lurk several boards and every board has their "feels threads" but holy shit it's like people in this thread want to be sad or some shit.

>>42727646
I can completely relate.

'Be comforatable being alone with yourself' doesn't mean 'be not depressed having no social network or support system'. Which is what people who say that don't get.

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>>42729402
I wish to know this feel.

>>42731290
Of this is true, my condolences anon.
I've been there, truly. Normie social stuff was just not my strong suite.

My advice is to give less fucks. When you get to the point where you run out of fucks, things get easier.

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>>42732144
Harsh medicine incoming -

Dude. Bitches do bitch shit. There are no such thing as good girls. She probably wanted to be fucked harder. Women do not love us like we love them. 'True love' is a pipedream, I'm telling you. Vaginas are nice, women are not. The only true relationshsips of value you will ever have in your life will be with other men if you get lucky enough to find actual, real, bros.

Welcome to the world, and for gods sake move on because you are better than this baggage you are keeping yourself down with. Cope, brother. She is not fucking worth it. Get better. BE better.

>>42735466
>few weeks
try a year and a half and a model who was as /pol/ as me

>>42732144
I'm
>>42738341
Again.


You will find that this pain will force a part of you to die in order to move on. You will find yourself so much stronger some parts of you may be unrecognizable. You will find the world to be a pretty cold place, and truely appreciate the beautiful moments and relationships you forge in your future life. You will eventually find that when you want something, you go take it. You take it. Unapologetically. You work your ass off and fucking get it. And you find this new you rather intense and powerful, atleast compared to the old you.


Or, you can let your anxiety, incomprehensibly painful thoughts and bitterness fester like a sore in your mind until it destroys you completely.

Speaking from experience, don't let it destroy you.

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>seeing beautiful woman
>first time lady actually goes on several dates with me
>cute, funny, tiddies, and thinks im great
>after two weeks i go on family vacation for a few days
>texting cutsy messages all the while:
>want to form a relationship with her
>get back, aching to see her
>she starts ghosting me
>find out she actually has a boyfriend and I was a side hoe
this was about a month ago. im not hurt, just... empty

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>>42738395
You dodged a bullet. The shoe could've been on the other foot and you could've been the BF in the situation. Honestly, I think you should do the right thing and let the BF know he's dating a thot, but you're probably not going to do that.

>>42738515
this

>>42722522
"The man in the mirror" resonate deeply with me for that reason

>>42727974
Salem is a huge tourist trap.
Especially at Haloween.
Unless you absolutely have to go to the halloween carnival thing, go in the off season to visit the good stuff like the house of seven gables.

>>42738395
if she was willing to cheat on him, she'd be willing to cheat on you. consider the experience good practice for next time

>>42737874
This guy knows

>>42731290
i hope this is real. its comforting to know that there are other losers out there.

>>42731290
>>I explain that I don't have one because I never learned to drive.

>tfw 25 and no drivers license either

>>42729346
No there aren't. It's just us. Maybe only me

>>42729346
nah dude, i highly doubt there are many other guys like that.

>>42736912
I think that that only happens to african-american gents like us

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>>42723867
Jesus christ wtf man, why.

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>>42723867

>>42739003
>coons
>hot

you look like apes

>>42739017
I'm not actually black it's just that that namefag is in denial of being a nigger. He talks shit on "germanics" (which is any white person in his mind) and claims to be "Mediterranean" master race, meanwhile he is a dominican half breed nigger.

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>>42723867
holy shit is that really it? you've opened my eyes anon, thank you.

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No one is going to care but I've had those realistic Wojak images in my mind all day. I don't want to make it and then just hate myself. I'm typing up a schedule for myself right this moment and I'm going to get to it.

I'm drunk and I'm telling my story regardless

>really got into fitness
>gf would judge me all the time
>the longer we dated, the fatter she got
>one day I take her to the movies
>I go to the bathroom and it's empty
>a guy walks in right behind me
>there are literally 15 urinals to choose from
>he stands right next to me and starts playing with himself
>as soon as I'm done pissing he grabs my dick and starts jackin it
weirdestboner.jpg
>he pulls me across the bathroom by my dick into a stall and starts sucking me off
>cum in like 2 seconds
>put my dick away and walked out of there like I smelled smoke
>go back to the movie like nothing happened
>a few weeks after that I break up with my grill and stop hanging out with people

I looked up all the cruising spots in my city and started exploring. started off small, handjobs at urinals but I've upgraded to smoking cigars in the woods and waiting for other cruisers to come and play. I don't use apps or go to gay bars or do hard drugs or anything, I just wait like a fisherman with my pole out waiting for a bite.

IT beats sitting at home drinking rum until the sadness went away and it never did, it was getting bad. I picked up smoking again though, very few people will stand 30 ft off the main path in the trees to smoke a cigarette and even fewer people will walk up without saying anything.

call me what you want I'm closing the thread and going to sleep

>>42722695
You can't just find a passion.

I get in these slumps where I don't want to do anything. Nothing seems valid, nothing seems to have a point. It's hard.

>>42726010
I think you're a funny guy. I bet you have a girlfriend.

>>42727649
Fug bro I know this feel so strong. I was there all of 2016.

>>42727122
I've got a mate who for some reason got really into fishtanks. Don't get me wrong, he's chad as all fuck, tanned, fit after rugby player, girls froth over him, but he's just obsessed with fish.
>His room turned fucked, it was just full of tanks with various fish
>For his 21st his parents gave him money to build bigger tanks
>He ended up building and decking a shed out the back to house all the tanks
>He got mad into water filtration now the tanks self clean and self feeds
>Sweet automatic led lighting so the fish can sleep at the same time every day

It's so fucking weird but hobbies just come from nowhere dude

Should probably look at pragmatism tho, stop receiving information for no reason, receive information with the intent to achieve some effect on your world

>>42727644
This is life mate, you take the good with the bad.
It's interesting, I think many people here are stuck between the two philosophies of "if your motivated and act smart, you can achieve anything!" And "you have no control over some things!".
Sometimes it's hard to tell where your personal jurisdiction in the world starts and ends.
I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle, where you continuously act as your own "best mate" to improve your situation and offer somewhat objective support when things get difficult
Best of luck mate, fuck dumb bitches man

>>42727878
cute

>>42727122
discipline your ind with books the same way you did it your your body with weights
/fitlit/ never forget

>>42720460
Well, depends on your priorities in life and what bothers you the most. There are people who are just social and charismatic normie people who are satisfied by being around people, but are fat, so they could use gym and a good diet.
Like, i am naturally a guy who doesnt care much about being around people and not being alone. I did combat sports since my childhood, loved training, liked men who are reliable and liked people who could argue well. Raised by a single father on 80s and 90s movies and a lot of autistic occultism and philosophy. I sleep well at night knowing that i have given my all doing things that i like and did what i could. I guess thats the answer to your question.