Has anyone here had success doing SS as a noob? I see it constantly being shit on here but praised in other places, but I tried doing a higher volume program and plateau'd pretty quick despite not skipping days and eating at a 500 surplus.
Now I see people talking about how back squats and deadlift aren't worth doing. There is so much conflicting information I can't decide on what program I should be doing.
tl;dr - best routine for dyels to reach 1/2/3/4 ?
Anyone who shits on squads, deadlifts or SS is nu/fit/. Do SS until you stop making linear progress then do whatever the fuck you want with your solid base of strength
>>42698849
what this guy says
>>42698271
If you take /fit/s advice seriously you deserve everything you get. You do realize this website is synonymous with trolls and retards.
>>42698271
do stronglifts
Read the sticky you fucking retard
>>42698271
calisthenics and 2000 calory surplus is best when starting. calisthenics deplete calories like crazy, 5x ammount of regular lifting. 2 months n u will be fit even by /fit/ standard
>>42700166
I read the sticky. I also read plenty of shit that contradicts what's in the sticky. Kick rocks faggot.
>>42698271
SS helped me get to almost 4 pl8 squat and deadlift after 3 months in the gym
>>42698271
For starting out it was great, but after a few months it gets boring doing the same few lifts every week.
I ended up switching after month 3, but SS/5x5 did help me figure out what my body was capable of, and how to get proper form.
>>42700237
SS helped me get to a 5pl8 OHP in a month.
>>42700197
They're trolling you fucking noob. Read the sticky
>>42698271
SS got me from narrow nooblet to within 20 lbs of 1/2/3/4 on all lifts. It was a short trip to finish it off from there with Texas Method.
Keep in mind, I'm in my mid 30s. Also, I DID THE PROGRAM, including drinking milk and eating way too much. I went from 155 to 185lbs. Probably shoulda eaten a bit less and certainly should have eaten less fast food.
Now I gotta figure out how to come back down from strong fat land.
>>42700272
So all the posts about SS not having enough upper body volume, deadlifts being too dangerous to be worth doing, the only viable squats being front squats - all that stuff is just people trolling and nobody actually believes that?
>>42698849
>>42700237
>>42700247
Thanks for the input everyone
>>42700328
How long did it take you to reach 1/2/3/4 ? Did you have linear progression the entire time?
>>42700348
The only one of those that isn't 100% trolling bullshit is the bench volume, which I never personally had a problem with. Just don't do the program for a stupid long amount of time. It's a beginners program, get your noob gains and move on.
>>42700348
>he fell for memes and took it as 100% fact info
>>42698271
it's too lower body focused. squats and deadlifts aren't bad, but it's likely when starting your upper body is smaller than lower and this program might make that worse - and if you follow this program for a while it'll take possibly years to even yourself out again.
SS = GOMAD
>>42698271
Do stronglifts or ICF 5x5
Do SS if you wanna have a thicc cute butt for your bf to fuck
>>42702211
well what the fuck should beginners do then? less squats and more upper body?