DEADLIFTS ARE A PERFECTLY SAFE and GREAT EXERCISE FOR BUILDING

keep on deathlifting never going to make it with a snapped up spine

>>42691010
>As long as you use good form and work within your limits

That's a massive "IF". Why do you think PT's NEVER EVER suggest Deadlifts/Squats in whatever gay as fuck 3x10, 8 cable machine exercises routine they give people?

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>tfw almost at 4pl8
4.5 by the end of the year

you will get nowhere with good form and working within your limits.

>>42691041
ego lifters deserve to snap their shit up

>>42691041
because PTs are too lazy to teach barbell movements so they just put them on machines and meme exercises

>>42691041
Because they're harder to coach than shitty meme exercises and they don't want to be responsible for novices injuring themselves? Also most PTs are there to get paid and don't care about what results you get as long as you keep coming back to them - so they give you isolation exercises that feel effective and in reality aren't doing all that much.

>>42691038
obvious b8 is obvious

>>42691010
because if you're bad at something it's much easier to discredit that thing than to actually put in the effort to improve

>>42691010
That depends on the kind of spine you're born with. Spines are thin or thick. Thicker spines are more tolerant of deadlifts but are susceptible to injury from twisting motion and vice versa with thin spines being better at twisting but can't take heavy loads too well.

Anyone who tells you "everyone should deadlift" is a liar and a moron. I'd gut you in real life if you said that to me.

Read up on Stuart McGill's work. He's not against deadlifting but he puts some of the issues people have with it into context better. It's not just your form it's largely genetic.

>>42691426
you wouldn't gut shit nerd, you couldn't put out a candle

if i met you in the street you would get mogged on every level srs

>>42691010
>he fell for the deadshit meme
lmfao enjoy your wheelchair faggot

>>42691873
prove me wrong bitch

>>42691873
Enjoy being weak

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>>42691010
Like everything else here, opinions on deadlifts are cyclical because we're all contrarian assholes.

It's a fact that deadlifts are great and everyone should be doing them. But when too many people agree on that, popular opinion shifts toward "they're dangerous and unnecessary." Then when THAT becomes too popular, it's back to "deadlifts are good"

Same deal with squats, SS/SL vs brosplits, and other topics

>>42691848
Quit posting you fat retarded piece of shit. You know absolutely nothing about the human body or fitness. The fact you blindly defend deadlifting is proof you're a shit eating meme spewing faggot. I'd absolutely rip you apart limb by limb. Don't close your eyes tonight, bitch.

i almost broke 3 plate but things were shaky and could've got snappy. (30, sedentary, history of back/knee injuries) however, when a busted out some solid volume with lmao2plate then all my lower back pain went away.

just treat them like a big accessory if you're afraid of snapping your shit. they do so much good for core+lower back+quad+grip you're really missing out otherwise.

if you want to throw up big numbers, get a lesson from a real coach.

protip: the coach will be a built fat guy that doesn't comb his hair or is bald.

>>42692077
I would post a picture of my body to prove you wrong, but I could be identified based on my scars (used to be involved with a fight club, stabbed multiple times) and my gang affiliated tattoos from when I spent 10 years in one of the toughest prisons in the country (I’m, probably, in the top priority list of the FBI right now).

I know your type, though. You think because you can squat and deadlift heavy that you're a big guy with an impressive physique. I have built plenty of muscle without those autistic lifts. You probably think you're superior because you follow the routines of a fat little redneck man with no real knowledge of building muscular or strength. You don’t know shit about muscles and strength if you have not trained the way I had, I literally learned from the best, and you got no shit on me, you fat autistic neckbeard.

>>42692077
cope

i'd shit in your mouth srs, i mog you on every level physical, metaphysical, intellectual, and dick

>>42692145
why the fuck are you giving advice if you just barely got 3pl8?
>>42692077
cringed hard

>>42691150
Eeeeh, I don't think so.

If you keep coming back to them for several weeks, it'd make sense that they teach you the barbell exercises.

If you go to them for one session and ask them to "give you a program based on your goal to tone" they'll give you some meme routine so you don't injure yourself.

At least that's how it makes sense to me that it works.

>>42692231
i guess i'm saying you take my advice if you're my age, don't play sports, have serious pre-existing injuries and don't want to snap your shit because i never have in 3 years of dead lifting.

>>42692394
your advice holds absolutely no relevance because you deadlift 315x1 after 3 years of training, which is something most teenagers can do in a few months

>>42692176
kek'd i got the reference

also that anon is an idoopt

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>>42692195
Explain the the genetic difference in spine thickness and its studied relationship with disc herniations. If your response is another meme shitpost you're dead.
>>42692231
keep cringing cake ass

I plan on reaching 4pl8 deadlift and then stopping and just maintaining that forever. Same with 3pl8 squat. That's enough for my spine and legs to stay swole.

>>42692421
oh ok thanks. you too.

>>42692674
how embarrassing

>>42692771
Yes your lack of intelligence is a blight and shame.

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>Works your abs
>Works the other half of your legs
>Works traps
>Works forearms
>Works biceps
>Works rear deltoids
Lmao how the FUCK is deadlifting bad???

>>42692421
nice b8 retard

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>>42692077
Spooky. Did you lurk on /k for a week or something?

>finally hit 4pl8
>people discredit it because I pull sumo

ITS NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS YOU FUCKS

>>42693394
Wrong.
Low-bar back squat is the virgin lift.

>actually doing 'le look how much I can lift' memelifts
lmao

>>42691041
>Going to a commercial gym
Holy keks batman

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>>42695300
lel

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>Stuck on 4pl8 for over a year
I'll get to 5pl8 I fooken swear on me mum

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>>42696034
Forge your own 500g plates and progress that way.

>>42691010
>it's mostly perfectly safe as long as you do it absolutely perfectly absolutely every single time
The same can be said for mountain climbing and parachuting, anon. Other exercises are much more forgiving.

>>42691096
This is always the progression in logic
>it's impossible to get hurt doing deadlift
"Actually, it's fairly easy to get hurt."
>WELL YOU DESERVE TO GET HURT
Just admit that, like bench, deadlift has benefits AND is one of the riskier exercises you can do.

>>42692283
naive is the word

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>>42691054

>>42692145
Mailman 8 miles of walking a day. Tightest hamstrings imaginable and chronic lower back pain since world of warcraft came out. Stretching and diddly's reduced it by like 90%. I popped Molly last week and skipped both leg days and lower back was in unimaginable pain. Day after deadlifting 2pl8 4x8 it's all gone again.

>>42691010
I have v bad scoliosis mane i dont wanna die desu

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>>42696267
Look up Lamar Gant, pound for pound one of the strongest deadlifters of all time.

>>42696066
i hope you aren't seriously suggesting microloading deadlifts
>>42696034
up your training volume, make sure you're in a caloric surplus, add in variations of deadlift to address your weakpoint on a second day
>>42694525
i'm not b8ing, 315 is something most people who lift seriously (not you) are pulling in a couple months tops

apply yourself

>>42696329
>up your training volume
Gonna try that
>make sure you're in a caloric surplus
Check
>add in variations of deadlift to address your weakpoint on a second day
Weakpoint is lockout, so rack pulls?

>>42696343
what is your programming right now?

lockout being a weakpoint on deadlift is tricky, because it can either be A. actual weakness at lockout (address with block pulls from below the knee), or B. getting out of position at the bottom of the pull (deficit deadlifts to make you stronger off floor, deadlift to knees to make your positioning better)

>>42696352
5/3/1 4 days a week + First Set Last for more volume

>>42696438
that's pretty high volume, i'm surprised you're not progressing on that

add rack pulls from below the knee on your squat day, see if that extra volume helps, and if not switch programming to something like nuckols 2x int deadlift (more volume in the 75-85% range, more sets for you to practice setup - I doubt that FSL at low percentages is really going to do that much for your technique)

>>42696482
Due to an injury I'm cutting out squats anyway so I will do just that. Thank you based anon.

>>42696508
gl, 500 deadlift is the biggest rush when you get it