Is there a correlation between right wing political views

>>42633495
The right/left wing dichotomy its so outdated and vague that it effectively means nothing

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>>42633495
libertarian isnt really right wing tho

Yes, but that's because Democrats have left left-wing become batshit SJWs. Now libertarians and centrists are hard-right neo-nazis.

>>42633536
If you consider "right wing" as conservative, it isn't, but if you consider right wing as "capitalist" (as most political spectrums do), then they are.

Weight lifting is blue collar and thus rightist, aerobics and cardio are white collar and leftist.

>>42633556
well then most political spectrums are retarded

>>42633495
I have seen articles saying stuff like "gym douches more likely to be right wing assholes" but it may have just been a meme

Why is it any surprise that philosophies that emphasized the primacy of the individual would attract people who are drawn to self-improvement?

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>>42633556
I think most peoples idea of 'right wing' is socially right. most people dont know/care about economics and most fall into the category of capitalists whether they know it or not

>>42633495
If that's the case, then why does no one on this board lift?

>>42633657
Yep, search that on Google and you get the vice article. I have no idea why they would want to spread the idea that gym goers are right wingers, surely thats gonna damage their cause more than it benefits it?

>>42633685
people who write vice articles dont have a cause, they make click bait based on their jaded views of the """"jock"""" kid who bullied them at school

I was a liberal skinnyfat fag who never stepped foot in a gym and became /pol/ tier right wing and got shamed into going to the gym by rightwing twitter trolls.

>>42633536
>libertarian isnt really right wing tho

Depends. Are you Libertarian because Democrats are totally fucking clueless about economics, or because Republicans can't get it through their fucking heads that the Bible is a fairy tale?

I mean, probably both, but which of those two facts is MORE important to you?

>>42633755
I agree with both of those, but here's the problem: can a capitalist ever be considered left wing (unless it's "center-left")

>>42633772
yes because capitalism is the only system in which your personal freedoms can be protected. the real question is how can a society that steal from and control its people be(socially) left wing?

Jews hate anyone who improves themselves to a point where they rely on themselves. Lifting is means to an end. For most people it's a sense of pride and accomplishment and leads to bettering themselves in other areas. Outliers remain, but still.

>>42633772
depends- by some standards, socdems like bernie are centre-left politicians, whereas by others they are centre-right, centre at most because they are still capitalist

imo, left-wing implies anti-capitalism

>>42633556
right wing does not mean capitalist you fucking idiot

>>42633828
being right wing economically means supporting free market capitalism???

>>42633812
fucking hell i hate you retards.

>>42633847
right and left are spectrum INSIDE of capitalism. There is no serious debate on or in any other system

>>42633536
>libertarian isnt really right wing tho
The word "libertarian" in its contemporary usage is a 100% right wing ideology and you're a fucking idiot if you think otherwise.

I go to the gym

t. marxist trash

>>42633495
guess which side pushes Healthy at every size BS
there is a reason why the left tell their followers not to work out.

>>42633828
Yes it does, dingus

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Yes. Anyone who denies this is a retard

>>42633878
yeah but historically (and in a lot of places outside the us) libertarianism has been used somewhat interchangeably with anarchism and anarchist communism

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>>42633495
hmmmm i wonder

>>42633536
No

>>42633874
there are plenty of legitimate economic systems separate from capitalism. what the fuck are you talking about

>>42633916
>REAL communism has never been tried

t. brainlet marxist

>>42633851
>t. 15 who wants to suck marxs cock

>>42633894
That is true, but even then most have distance themselves from the word libertarian nowadays because of it's current usage. How many anarchists call themselves libertarians nowadays?

>>42633495
There's a direct correlation between strength and right wing views.
There's also a direct correlation between physical beauty and right wing views.

>>42633939
even if youre not talking about communism/socialism, there are still plenty of systems that rely on counter-economics and syndicalism- e.g. agorism, mutualism, corporatism, etc.

t. actual brainlet

>>42633962
>There's a direct correlation between strength and right wing views.
Stop pretending you know what direct correlation means.

>>42633878
economically, not socially. and most people dont consider economics when they discuss politics, they discuss social issues

Im not american tho. maybe its different there tho

>>42633495
Because you and only you are responsible for your gains and loses. Can't steal gains from others through welfare.

Would you be willing to give up some of your gains to those who are unable to work out because of their disabilities such as hypothyroidism or PCOS?

We've all seen that FPH image where the fatty tells the fit person that "privilege is never, ever earned." Are they right? Is being fit a privilege we did not earn?

If you answered "yes" to the above, then you are a left winger. If you answered "no", then you are a right winger.

Some of you will actually try (unsuccessfully) to argue with this, because you are young and haven't developed your political opinions enough to resolve hypocrisies you have been brainwashed into believing.

>>42633966
those are fairy tales, not legitimate economic systems. youre the brainlet child if you think the world could work like that

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quite possibly

>>42633989
imagine being this retarded

>>42633966
made up shit from a textbook doesn't count as legitimate systems. do these things work in practice? I'll wait for a first world country example

>>42633991
fascist italy was corporatist and didn't fail because of its economic system

>>42633989
apart from the unearned smug,

that is a valid test to determine the mindset of someone who is statistically likely to vote left or right

not all left voters believe in privilege, but all people who believe in that nonsense are left voters

>>42633976

I'm an American and I consider economic issues almost exclusively when I vote.

I don't smoke pot so I give zero fucks if it's legal or not. I've had a vasectomy so I give zero fucks if abortion is legal or not. I'm not gay so I give zero fucks if gay marriage is legal or not.

But goddammit, our economy will collapse into total anarchy under the weight of unfettered liberal/communist economic policy.

>>42633997
I will never not laugh at the fact that this was drawn as an insult to republicans by some commie beta

>>42634032

Oh, and if you want to take my guns, you can have them - I'll give you the bullets first though.

>>42634032
youre not the norm. most people are swayed by strong social opinions. like
>fucking faggots, I hate them so Im going to vote right
or
>poor dindus, I feel sorry for them so Im going to vote left
or
>dude weed lmao Im voting left
or
>REEEEEEEEE young people are shit Im voting right

>>42633989

Those things don't prevent you from working out or making it.

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>>42634057

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Me personally, I got into the extreme right/fascism thing, and it made me realise how slobby and weak I am, and how I have to improve if I want to help my fellow Man to rise among the stars
So, I started reading, started lifting, started cardio
Maybe it's like that for more people
But it's probably just blue-collar workers voting conservative, nothing new or special.

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>>42634091

Being a liberal is about trying to make everyone as shit as you are (i.e., don't go to gym and bitch about it on Twitter)

Being a Conservative is about being dependant upon yourself (i.e., actually go to gym and strengthen yourself)

I feel myself getting more conservative as I age too, in general.

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>>42633772
>can a capitalist ever be considered left wing
yeah cause mark zuckerberg is the typical right wing conservative, right? Bill Gates, you know one of the richest men in the world too, right? Definitely right-wing. Steve Jobs, etc etc etc etc
What a dumb question

>>42634088

We know that, but go read any FPH thread - there's lots of people out there who genuinely believe fat is a genetic thing that can't be changed.

>>42634117
I meant "advocate for capitalism", not "business owner"

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>>42634116
a fetus isnt a person and isnt protected by the nap. pro life cucks fuck off

>>42633685
from a right-wing POV I have mixed feelings about lib attempts to brand gym-going this way. on the one hand it would become heavily stigmatized, on the other our enemies would be physically weak

>>42634139

Thats because being fat is a mental disorder not a physical one.

>>42634105
This

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>>42634149

>Relativizing human life just because he doesn't want to take responsibility

also 10 commandments > NAP

>>42633507
It's a crude measuring stick but it still holds true for many people.

Right wing people generally agree on free markets, small govt, meritocracy

Left wing people generally agree on socialism, authoritarian state, and oppression hierarchies.

Someone less lazy than me should make a straw poll for /fit/ to answer the question

>>42634142
those men are all clearly advocates for capitalism. none of them would've ever allowed the state to run their enterprise. Steve jobs was notorious for avoiding paying corporate taxes. How much more can you possiblyadvocate for capitalism

>>42634149
Do u have the strayan version?

>>42633639
Wtf

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/05/25/study-physically-weak-men-more-likely-to-be-socialist-strong-men-more-likely-to-be-capitalist/

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/07/are-socialists-physically-weak/533787/

I've long since suspected this. Lefties are weak, and insecure, and that's where their political beliefs stem from. They don't want to have to fend for themselves in the big scary would and get left out in the cold, so they imagine a society that takes care of all your needs. No matter how unproductive you are, no matter what useless degree you study, you will always have a comfortable wage, health care, etc. Words such as self-determination and free-enterprise have little place in the leftiest vocabulary because that means competition which means they can, and think they probably will, lose.

Those with stronger bodies and stronger minds favor the struggle to surivive and thrive because they are confident in their abilities to overcome. The know they are the cream which can rise to the top.

>>42634115
You're confusing neoliberalism with classical liberalism. Classical liberalism is the most American philosophy there is. Protection of personal liberties is what it's all about. It's what the fucking constitution is based on. Don't confuse "liberal values" with "sjw values." Not all liberals are fat chicks with problem glasses and high waisted shorts.

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>>42634207
if you think the church has any say in what you should be doing youre not a libertarian f a m. and Id happily take responsibility. if I had a womb and it had a cluster of cells in it, Id happily stick a whisk up there and "kill " it myself

>>42634247
nope sorry

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>>42633495

Yes.

But correlation doesn't mean a thing.

What you're looking for is causation. Which isn't there.

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>if you think the church has any say in what you should be doing youre not a libertarian f a m. and Id happily take responsibility. if I had a womb and it had a cluster of cells in it, Id happily stick a whisk up there and "kill " it myself

the famous /r9k/-/fit/-/pol/ overlap

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>>42634327
>not even giving me a (you)

I thought you were a bit dumb before, but this is just bullying. you might have violated the nap lad

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Any who has an ideology, that doesn't involve themselves becoming an absolute monarch is a cuck.

>>42633755
*tips fedora

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I have significantly more right-wing views after I started lifting, however I also went to a very diverse, liberal college and saw the madness of the left untamed. I was extremely liberal before college and lifting however.

>>42633495
There was a study done that showed Right Wing correlated with being stronger.

>>42633495
This video pretty much sums up why

https://youtu.be/GiVWLOTiw_k

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>>42634247

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>>42634149
But what if John Moses browning was aborted

>>42633884
I would not say rippetoe represents or shows a good health. The guy is clearly overweight.

>>42633495

I'm a socialist and I lift. Most people in my gym are probably corporate Democrats and socially liberal Republicans though.

>>42633702

What are you on? Literally everyone who works at VICE is gorgeous, male or female, except for that one chubby dude.

Yeah, right wingers hit the gym and go full throttle
Left wingers show up malnourished on a vegan diet and lift some peanuts

>>42634301

I've turned more Socialist as I've gotten more and more diligent with my exercise, work and hobbies. Society is structured in such a way where people who feel vulnerable are desperate, and have reason to be. With baseline standards for quality of life, we would all be able to lift, pursue our hobbies, and only do useful work (imagine no office and retail busywork).

Also, if you visited Snap City, you wouldn't go broke trying to get your shit fixed.

>>42633755
Libertarians used to be right wing, but all the conservative libertarians have moved on to the alt right and the only libertarians left are the lefties who are in it for the drugs

>>42633755
Protip:

If you want to convince Christians that the Bible isn't real, use an actual argument, don't just use "fairytale" and "flying spaghetti monster"

*tips fedora*

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>>42633495
Self-improvement tends to appeal to right leaning people, whereas self-acceptance tends to appeal to left leaning people.

>>42636193
obie trice real name no gimmicks

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>>42634207
>wanting more liberals and minorities

>>42634245
Those globalist business owners are mercenary corporatists. They use their money to bribe government officials to create tax loopholes and higher barriers to entry to kill off their competition. Capitalism becomes corporatism when governments become too powerful and start meddling in the free market on behalf of their corporate donors. Zuckerberg and friends are all anti-capitalist because they do not allow for unfettered market competition. They use the government to stifle the market so they can get ahead and make a buck. This is the essential difference between a right-wing business owner like Trump and a left-wing business owner like Zuckerberg: One is more open to fair competition than the other.

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>>42635275

>>42633495

yes, leaning right is largely predicated on being conscientious (i.e., hard working), which is a necessary trait for going to the gym. Also being /fit/ makes you naturally more secure which pushes you away from being a statist (although that's not left / right but in the US it seems like the left wing is certainly more statist than the right wing, although that's not true in all countries)

>>42634040

lol I assumed it was pro trump

>>42634032
It's always difficult to talk economics and politics with people who have "American" point of view on political/economical terms. In my country, liberal is strictly an economical stand point and has nothing to do with societal views. Hence most liberals here are centrist or slightly right. Always confusing when I read liberal for hard-core leftist views.

As for the thread, I think going to the gym is mostly egoistic. Right wing goings I know are far more egoistic (not in a bad way, I am myself one) than leftist youngs.

>>42636243
You have really utopian views on society

>>42633495
There is definitely a correlation between being fit and ideologies cemtred around self-determination etc
You can't make the change to be a fit human being unless you've conquered a lot of mind hurdles that were holding you back. I say this all the time: "Look at antifa"
What do you see? Piss weak meandering shriveled up nu-males with nothing going for them with a propensity towards drug taking and ill-health.
And what does their ideology call for? A big overreaching government that caters to their every need.

>>42633495
He's not right wing until he appears on the Daily Shoah.

Right wingers think they know everything, and as a result they're the ones you see in the gym doing everything incorrectly.

Leftists that lift follow science and proven methods with proper technique.

>>42633536
>posts hoppe inspired meme
>libertarians arent right wing

Im sorry but you are wrong

>>42633812
Someones got subisize my abortions and gender reassignment surgery

in my personal experience the absolute no hope brainlets tend to be conservative while the mediocre or slightly below average people who think they are fucking geniuses tend to be more liberal. thats why you see all those annoying retarded liberals while hardcore conservatives are more of just a joke

>>42638176
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>42634247

>>42638231
that's a broad generalization
brainlets tend to be left-wing, mostly because it's the status quo
it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to understand Marx or Stirner, and it doesn't take a lot to realize how stupid it all is
now Evola, on the other hand...

>>42634236
no anon, you see, it's the right wingers who want an authoritarian state in order to protect their traditional values. oh wait, politics, is more complicated than just left and right wing. A lot more. Gonna ignore the oppression hierarchy thing, since I have no idea wtf you're on their.

>>42634236
your post would imply that only the red and purple squares of the political compass exist

>>42638283
Different anon here, and speaking about American politics mostly. Yes there is authoritarian/small gov't spectrum on both right and left but there are definitely major differences between left/right. Leftists in general believe in more state systems and functions like healthcare, welfare, social support systems. All of these require more state agencies which must be invasive in order to perform their duty. Think of how much control and influence a system like the NHS has over people. All of a sudden the government has access to medical records, controls the treatments available, and issues like common conditions (smoking, obesity) become matters of concern to the state budget. Or as another example the BBC versus American broadcast networks. The BBC is funded by the TV license fee, which means state police are used to find and prosecute those who don't pay and watch. In the US you can simply not pay your bill and they shut it off, or there is free over air signal that no one charges for. Also the government now has their own media group both in terms of news and also entertainment/documentaries. These are now all under direct authority of the government to regulate and control the content. If the UK government decides to censor some topics as "hateful" then they're stricken from the air. Government ideas and ideals are now intermixed with news and entertainment. Think of the importance of issues like the first interracial kiss on Star Trek, vs how the UK government handled the same. If they want to promote an issue they have great power to influence society through Overton Window and also to censor disfavored ideas. The US has an agency (FCC) which regulates broadcast standards but this is a step removed from direct control, and also cable are entirely exempt (I know the UK also has private networks like satellite).
The general idea is that leftists rely on state control as a type of nanny, redistributing wealth, etc.

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>>42634040

"In 2014, he was again a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize and also received the Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award for his cartoons related to social justice issues."

Pic related

>>42636928
lmao, source?

>>42633828
Yes. It literally does

>>42634149
It is human life and it does violate the NAP

>>42633495
No, there's actually a correlation between being Republican and being fat and uneducated though

The left absolutely hates testosterone unless it's being injected into women
Lifting increases testosterone in males

The answer is obvious.

>>42633755
People seem to be libertarians because they lacked proper social development. They don't understand human interaction very well, and their spergy robotic thinking leads them to believe that the point of society is to ensure economic transactions happen efficiently.

It's a very "beep boop the peas cannot touch the mashed potatoes" worldview.

>>42633966
You're spending too much time online buddy. Go outside and play with your friends like little kids are supposed to.

>>42633772
Capitalism is the same as communism in that it puts power in the hands of "the people." The only difference is whether it puts the reigns of government authority or the power of the economy in the hands of normal fucking retards. The fact remains that both systems essentially want normal fucking retards to run everything.

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>>42634301

>>42636243
post body

>>42634301
>I've long since suspected this.
Real fedora-tipping post, but that single study isn't even remotely comprehensive and all it "proves" is a weak correlation (which might be reversed - i.e. people who are right-wing are more likely to locate their masculinity in physical strength). Not to mention that the vast majority of people who are politically conservative in this country do not benefit from Republican fiscal policies and vote based on bullshit social issues, which has nothing to do with "muh world of strength".

Amusing that you morons always rattle on about "useless" degrees, despite the fact that universities were never intended to be vocational schools. I'd love for you to spend a year in your wonderful utopia of all engineers and doctors and see how enjoyable your life is.