I'm 200 Ibs and close to 6'1 my lifts for 3x5 are

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>>42613918
You weak af for your weight man, if u natty... get more strength so u have more muscle to cut down and see.. 225lb minimum bench if you're that big my dude

>>42613918
>Making the image more interesting than he thread

Classic blunder

Do you have source on the image?

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>>42614830
It's from some Eastern European air show, that's all I know offhand.

>>42614799
I'd rather cut to skele mode than gain more weight now and cut later. I'm tired of being fat. But yes, I know my lifts are weak as fuck.

>>42614778
Why?

>squat and dead 2 pl8

LAD

>>42615069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsekqge84ZU

>>42615073
Is 2plate squat really that shit?

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I'm 6'1" 200 lbs and my squat is only 1pl8. Only 3 weeks into lifting though and squat has been increasing bretty fast for eating at a deficit.

>>42615710
Yea it'll go up quick. I was adding 20ibs a week for a while

>>42615668
your proportions are off that's for sure. you should be at a 3pl8 deadlift

>>42616284
Yea, I think I just need to focus on Dlift more. I haven't really trained it that muh. But I'm seriously looking for some info on lifting vs bodyweight for cutting weight. I feel like bodyweight would get me to my desired weight faster, and I wouldn't mind having to bulk longer in return.

>>42616342
Also, I'd plan to do a 6 day PPL after I cut down to my goal weight.

>>42613918

Your squat is passable but everything else is shit

I'm same height, weigh 40lbs less, and all my lifts are better after 4 months of lifting

>>42616735
Yes I know my lifts are terrible, what I need help with is deciding how I go about losing weight before I actually commit to a 6 day program and bulk.

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>>42616750
> wants to do a 6 day program
> with lifts like that

My friend im not trying to make fun of you here but you have no business whatsoever doing a 6 day program without the condition and strength base to support it. 6 day programs such as push pull legs are only good for late intermediate or advanced lifters. With a 175 pound bench and a 120 pound row you would get jack shit out of it.

That is, when you refer to a 6 day program, I'm assuming you mean push pull legs.
If youre referring to a bro split you're wayyyy off the mark. Split routines are the worst programs for natural by far. They are only good for steroid users or elite level naturals.

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>>42617475
I meant PPL, and I wouldn't plan on starting it till next year. I'm just wondering if I should cut down to 160 with bodyweight or with lifting.

I'm guessing that doing Greyskull would give me a better foundation? But my Uni's Gym is closed and I'm not sure if I can afford a membership at a private one.

>>42616750
As far as losing weight goes, cut your daily calories down by 100-200. You want high carbs, moderate protein, low fat. Do it very slowly. One day a week do a refeed.

>>42617500
I eat mod carb, high protein, mod fat, at a 500ish deficit, what's wrong with that?

>>42617498
>>42617500

And yes you'll want to lift to lose the weight 100%
Bodyweight sucks for maintaining strength

>>42617524
Okay, so if I do intermittent fasting, lift/light cardio 3 times a week and eat clean, will I be able to have a decent base by January to switch to PPL?

>>42617515
500 is way too big of a defecit. Max I would do is 300. If you want to maintain or build strength you have to lose weight slowly.

"High protein" diets are never a good idea and are extremely inefficent and also unhealthy. Your body doesnt use protein for energy, it uses primarily carbs and secondarily fats. Eat your necessary amount of protein (0.8g per pound of bodyweight) and never exceed it
When you're losing fat and want to retain muscle you need as much energy and glycogen in your muscles as you can get to keep your strength. Carbs are the best source of fuel for them, so it make sense that they would make up most of your diet.

Essentially, find out your required amount of fat and protein, and let carbs make up the rest of it.

>>42617622
To be perfectly honest, PPL is also very inneficent compared to fullbody, for all experience levels. I'd reccomend 5/3/1 instead but youre free to do whatever program you like.
And yeah if you do everything properly and don't get carried away with the caloric defecit, you could definitely get 1/2/3/4 by January

>>42617737
Why is PPL inefficient? It seems like everybody on /fit/ recommends it, you're honestly the first person I've really seen shitting on it.
And do you mean that I should start 5/3/1 in January after I have/am close to 4/3/2/1?

I'm also curious about some things you mentioned in >>42617648
I only eat 160-180g of protein a day, so I'm good in that regard. But I'm wondering why you say 500 is too much. It's what I see recommended here all the time. And how many carbs should I be getting? I try to shoot for 150-200ish a day.

>>42618029
>Why is PPL inefficient? It seems like everybody on /fit/ recommends it, you're honestly the first person I've really seen shitting on it.

With PPL you're in the gym 6 days a week, only to hit each muscle group twice a week. With proper fullbody training you can hit everything three times a week in half the trips to the gym. Use a fullbody Heavy/medium/Light set up

> only eat 160-180g of protein a day, so I'm good in that regard. But I'm wondering why you say 500 is too much. It's what I see recommended here all the time.

500 can work in some instances. For you tho it would benefit you to lose weight slower with a 100-300 defecit because you're trying to gain strength too.

> And how many carbs should I be getting? I try to shoot for 150-200ish a day.

You'll need to calculate it. I dont know your activity level. Like i said, eat only the required amount of fat and protein and get the rest of your calories from carbs

>>42618472
Alright, thanks. Any TDEE calculators you recommend?

>>42618472
And I guess my last question is, how fast do you think I could lose the weight if I went to a 1-3 hundred calorie deficit?

>>42618472
Oh yeah, and most people dont realize lifting 6 days back to back every week wrecks havoc on your joints. Heavy pressing on your PUSH and then doing chin ups or lat pulldowns the next day for PULL will overtime negatively effect your joints due to overuse and can lead to injury.
also fundementally it doesn't make sense, why would you separate legs from back? You're going to do deadlifts and rows and then squat the next day? Your lower will hate you I can promise that

>>42618540
>he's too soft to do legs every day or lift 6 days a week
lmao what a faggot