/fraud/

First

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>tanning is bad for your skin even if you don't burn yourself
>the thing in self tanner that makes you tan apparently also ages you skin
what to do?

>>42587003
don't tan your skin like a faggot

>From last thread
>Anyone have any personal stories or wisdom about their first cycle?
I feel like death and no results in sights.

3 weeks into 500mg/w test-e E3.5D, 0.5mg Adex E3.5D
>1st pin was into upper ass cheek, and the next day I felt flu-like symptoms and almost like an allergic reaction, body temperature was up and I had the chills and whole body soreness
>2nd and 3rd pins into side of hips (ventroglute) went ok with manageable pip
>4th pin into upper-outer quad, and same flu-allergy symptoms came back
>5th pin, back to ventroglute went ok and just pip but still feel shitty from the quad pin


Is it because of virgin muscle or my body not accepting the GSO carrier oil? Wtf do I do. I originally planned a 16week cycle but now feel like abbandoning this experiment. Give me some hope /fraud/. I wanna persevere this and get to Gainsville.

>>42587023
Dunno but this is why I ignored Reddits retard advice and just tapered up my test dose from 125 and now I'm up to a full 500. Didn't want any weird bullshit reactions putting me in a weird headspace.

>>42587023
allergy to the carrier oil would cause redness/a swollen area around the injection site. and why the fuck are you swapping sites like that every time? pip isn't gonna get better if you use a virgin muscle for every injection. alternate between left/right sides of one site (whichever you prefer, quads, vgs, glutes, who cares)

as for the test flu, well that's a thing that happens to some people. google it, you'll find some information about it. it's supposed to subside fairly quickly as your body adapts to the testosterone however so... dunno what to tell you specifically in your case.

>>42587079
(longer) esters naturally taper themselves up, retard.

>>42587116
>t. Reddit scientist that doesn't know what he's talking about

>>42587143
there's nothing "reddit" about it, it's actually just science. that's how esters work.

>>42587003
Eat beta carotene

>>42587245
It doesn't really give you a tan. It only slightly changes your complexion and gives you more of a healthy glow, but it's nowhere near what a tan provides in terms of attractiveness. I've taken 50k IU a day for many many months now, so I know the effects quite well.

>>42587003
m e l a n o t a n 2

>>42586965
Brahs, I can't find a recipe for how to make a cream or topical solution with this DHT powder; I normally make Stanolone (DHT) suspension with it, but I heard the cream has a high absorption rate; it's the only thing that can really increase your dick size when rubbed on your dick; I need to experiment with this shit.

>>42587268
Is this shit a meme? I hear a mix of overly positive and overly negative things about it

>>42587297
Nah, MT2 works really well. Just start at a low dose; I'm really pale and started at 100mcg and then upped to 250mcg per day for a week and tanned for 10 mins twice in the 9 days I injected, and then did .250mcg twice a week to maintain.

>>42587283
if im not mistaken dick size only increases while still in puberty

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>>42587474

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This eq gives me hella pip and a slight fever
Ive got fuckin tons, but I think Im going to drop it and throw it away. Or push it on retards

>>42587481
I bet your penis isnt feminine, cute, or big.
Fuckin fagit

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>>42587551
don't fuck on me gayboi

>>42587268
>>42587297
Will give you a fuck ton of moles if you're someone who doesn't tan normally or barely tans. It sucks for those of us who needs it the most.

Spray tans have come quite far and look quite real these days, so that's another better option. Only thing that sucks is that it has to be reapplied every week or so.

>>42587551
donate some poor dyel eq like me?

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>>42587570
Ugly dicklet confirmed

>>42587599
You dont want it

>>42587607
eq was my second choice after bimbs talked me into it.

mast a shit

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>>42587607
>older women molesting younger boys
>actually finding such filth attractive

Ohh Jerry boy...

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>>42586965
just started my pct sunday
>nolva 40mg
>clomid 50mg
what should I be expecting to feel like in the upcoming days?
The cycle im coming off of was only test 500 a week for 15 weeks

>>42587607
What's the name of this hentai?

>>42587685
you're gonna get a shit ton of acne. you will almost certainly experience brainfog and you might experience vision related side effects. overall you will feel like shit.

>>42587698
That's a doujin

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>>42587659
I like eq lots
But I fucked up making this batch
But its such a long blend that if I stop now I can bulk on it for like 2 more months

>>42587672
I just wish that was me ;_;

>>42587699
BnC master race. Fuck yeah!

Just lol at actually coming off steroids.

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>came off 12 week cycle of test
>decided to cruise for 4 weeks on 250mg
>occasionally have paranoia and want to come off
>occasionally remember how much better I feel than before cycling, had low test symptoms and everything
>pre existing gyno got a bit worse even with arimidex 0.5 EOD
>can't decide if i want to BnC for life or come off with a standard Nolva and Clomid PCT
>only 20 years old

I have 7 vials of 250mg/1ml of Test E brand new.

FUUUCK. LIFTING IS NOT THE SAME NOW.

Is it too late for me to PCT? Am I going to lose everything I gained and get fatter during PCT? If I did want to PCT off this cruise dose, would I wait 2 weeks for esters to clear or nah?

Honestly I have no idea what to do lads...fuck...

>>42586965
I'll come out and say it there's nothing wrong with a nice light var only cycle

Not one thing

https://youtu.be/S9qjBq43xxc?t=163
how does it feel that this 18 year old look better then you?

>>42587762
Flip 4 coins, 3 heads you cruise, 3 tails you stop bein a little bitch abd resolve your issues (while cruisin)

>>42587794
So either way I cruise...

aye aye, jerry. will report back with results

>>42587794
what if he gets 2 of each

>>42587787
He doesn't

>>42587736
>jerry
>bulk

Did I miss something?

>>42587736
>I just wish that was me ;_;
Jerry you have some issues.

>>42587807
I honestly think that he does, sorry buddy

>>42587821
Ah nah bigger and thicker

>>42587805
He reflips all 4
Theres more suspense this way

>>42587812
You missed that I was bulkin
But only for 2 more months then I need to be #shredded #7%

>>42587820
>he doesnt want to have sex
Ok gayboi

>>42587787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMUk6mrBoPI

I wonder how much gear he is on. At 18 I was pretty damn strong for my age, but I was nowhere near his size. I was natty back then of course.

>>42587803
>>42587794
Got 3 heads

Looks like I'll be cruising, jerbear. Wish my puffy nips weren't sore all the fucking time tho... hopefully I can get my free gyno surgery while in the military soon

Fuck everything, I'm just gonna blast tren deep in my ass and get cut and hyooge

>>42587821
>>42587807

Agreed, bimbo is more aesthetic
>no homo

>>42587845
Lower the dose, try like 125
See how your nips are

>the military pays for cosmetic surgery
That actually makes sense for gyno though so no one catches on that they put dbol in the food

>>42587868
>lower the dose, try 125
But jerbear I won't make gains off that. I'd practically be a disgusting natty

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>>42587842
I thought you were constantly trying to cut through unsustainable psmf and social drinking?
Either way good luck. More muscle burns more fat I guess

>>42587889
yeah it won't last more than a couple weeks before jerry looks at himself in the mirror and thinks he's too fat then starts psmfing again for months

for the 50th time

>>42587842
>he doesnt want to have sex
Jerry molestation is wrong. Besides I thought you were afraid of women, why would you want them to assault you?

>>42587892
I've come to fraud for idk 18months maybe. I don't think Jerry's ever said he has been in condition. It sucks because it insanely counter productive to yoyo diet

>>42587881
Oh, youre right.
You're making such great nipple gains right now.
Cmon

>>42587889
>social drinking
>social

>>42587892
This is accurate
Its already begun

>>42587889
I was too small
Too used to bloof

>>42587896
Because then Id be wanted by them.

>>42587913
>bulk for a few months
>cut for a few months
>start a bulk

Yoyo dieting!

>>42587958
>Because then Id be wanted by them.
You should probably talk to a counselor.

>>42587003
>>42587590

Mt2 good shit, im on super low dose 2 or 3 times a week and have solarium, maintains a nice tan all year round so i dont look like a translucent fuck, no moles or shit like that, just start super low if you're super white like me. Also prevents you from getting burnt too badly. But if you do burn a bit its not as bad as being a pale ghost off of it.

apparently increases insulin sensitivity too :)

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>>42588332
I'll check this shit out, I don't like being a ghostly faggot

>was planning on using 5mg accutane for mild acne
>fuckers gave me 20mg liquid filled capsules
how can I split the dosage up? Can I dissolve them in anything and dose that way?

>>42589099
>5mg
wow it's fucking nothing

>>42589117
what's your point?
had reports of people having great results on 5mg with no sides

>>42589132
5mg wont do shit 20mg is the low dose and it gave me zero sides

about to brew a fuckload of gear, anons.

literally have enough tren and npp to feed a small revolutionary army

day of the rope reeeeee

>>42588332
Sounds great.
I tan from time to time but it goes away quickly when I dont keep up a regular tanning schedule.

Dumb question related to it: do I just inject the bacwater into the vial and stir gently? What is the best ratio (10mg vials)?

Injection is subq right? What dose do you reccomend to keep a nice tan year round?

>>42587551
> I think Im going to drop it and throw it away
eq gave me the worst anxiety, even as low as 200mg a week.
>>42587590
it gave me a lot of new moles. some still remain after a year of stopping. i never was able to get as dark as i wanted. it also made my facial hair darker too so that was nice.

>>42589099
every other day or every three days?

>>42589585
eod

>>42589481
there's a post on r/steroids that says to inject 2ml bac water down the sides of the vial, and then to roll the vial gently to reconstitute.

/r/steroids/comments/2bzdlp/bio_active_peptides_and_melanotan_1_2_questions/cjah6jn/

>>42589792
Thank you, a very interesting read

Test 500 and Deca 500, or Test 750 and Deca 400?

I've heard varying opinions on dosage and some people say test should be almost double the deca otherwise your dick falls off.

>>42589915
both equal
would get good gains on 400 400 2bh

>>42587775
Agreed or a nice little bit of Epi

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bois, ever since i started pinning my ass with chinese chemicals i feel like shit, i look like shit, i don't feel like eating anything at all and most important, i don't feel like lifting anymore

inb4 bunk gear, it's legit (proved by bloods results)

When is the best time to add anavar during cut?

>>42590188
what's your estro look like?

>>42590223
it was around 80pg/ml last time i've checked

i would like to mention that i've felt this way before roiding and it was the reason why i decided to pin but it's getting worse

>>42590242
what are you running?
are you depressed?

Going to be pinning 125 tren a and 125 sust every second day. How much adex should I be taking failing for this size of a dose

>>42590256
500mg test/week

>>42590256
>are you depressed?
I hate this gay term. I'm unable to get enjoment out of anything and i feel tired all the time since 7 years, let's put it that way.

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>>42590287
go see someone dummy

>>42590297
fuck off, im 5'7

i would rather die hanging from the ceiling rather than die from embarrassment

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>>42590188
That's what you get for blaming your problems on 'muhh low test'. Actually work on yourself and get treatment for your depression (cause that's what it is, accepting it is step 1).

>>42590321
then stop fucking winging

>>42590322
actually my test was low before (still in range for an old man)

>Actually work on yourself
it does nothing

>get treatment for your depression
i was at the doctor looking for help but they told me to do shit ton of medical examinations, blood tests and after calculating this it turned out it would be cheaper to get 6 months worth of gear.

also, doctor told me it's probably schizophrenia

>>42590342
Anyone wanna put odds on when anon starts to inject 3ml of air intravenously?

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>>42590368
4 weeks

>>42590208
bump

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>>42588726
nice

>>42590242
Shouldn't it be below 40?

>>42586965
I've edged for 10 days straight.

Ask me anything

>>42590188
Maybe start taking some aromatase inhibitors.

>>42590997

to what?

Metformin sounds like it has a nutrition partitioning effect, anyone take it?

>>42591141
Whatever porn I find appealing in the moment, or my imagination. My balls are the size of onions.

motherfucker

I forgot a vial of test e on my bathroom counter overnight. I hope my roommate didn't go to the bathroom after me last night

>>42591181
He most likely did, if he's a nu-male cuck he might alert someone, if he's a gymbro like you he might ask for your source and you might be able to earn a little extra as a middle man between him and your supplier.

>>42590297
Is.. is that a trap or an actual female?
I genuinely cannot tell.

>>42591204
Doesn't matter, if it gets your dick hard then go ahead and jack it.

>>42591198
Injecting male privilege?

Uh oh anon, it's time for you to go the left wing re-education camp of tolerance and peace.

>>42590188

You mean a $20 vial didn't fix all of your life problems? Imagine that

>>42591218
hehe check mate, I'm still natty

>>42591198
he's a normal dude who tries to go to the gym like twice a year but ends up quitting after a week every time. he's also done dnp before

there's no risk in him alerting anyone but I definitely would prefer avoiding him and all our friends knowing. I can already imagine the retarded arguments in my head

oh and irl "roiding for this"

Started taking cardarine to maintain cardio schedule on tren. Seem to be grinding my teeth a noticeable amount.

Normal?

>>42591226
well, i was hoping that injecting synthetic hormones will somehow magically fix my problems but it turned out i was wrong

>>42591300
>he's also done dnp before
Well if he's done a diet drug found in dynamite that can literally cock your insides then he can't really judge you for injecting synthetic testosterone.

>>42591355
>cock your insides

Is that a word for gay anal sex?

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>>42591388
I fucked up

>>42591210
I'm at work m8
Risky

>>42591337

The only thing that can fix your problems is you.

will pinning less gear result in less pip? Im thinking about going from 1cc to 0.5cc

>>42591455

How long have you been pinning? It goes away after the muscle is used to it. If it doesn't, get better quality gear. The only thing that has ever given me discomfort consistently is short esters, but I wouldn't call it outright pip.

>>42591477
>How long have you been pinning?
10 weeks

>get better quality gear
i think this might be the case becasue recently every shot ends in pretty bad pip. Never had bad pip in my quads but now it hurts to even walk

>>42591498

>10 weeks
It's the gear. If it was your first week, I could see walking being an issue, but at this point, I would order more from a different source and discontinue the use of your current bathtub chemicals when it arrives. It's not red and hot to the touch is it?

>>42591544
nope, only bad pip

like how much muscle will additional compounds add to a 600mg test cycle?

>>42591703
two muscles

>>42591703

Which compounds? What is your routine? How much sleep do you get a night? What is your diet? There are more factors than just "adding more gear".

>>42591229
Oh dear, you haven't been taking your mandatory estrogen+progesterone prescription? That's oppressive binary genderism transphobism.

An emergency team of feminist doctors are on their way with your medication.

>>42591154
M E T F O R M I N

PLS RESPOND

>>42591821

PED radio episode 38

After you stop the orals and any water erc drops, will Anadrol or Superdrol leave you bigger?

100mg Adrol vs 30mg Sdrol

Or should it be 50mg Adrol+20mg Sdrol?

>>42591843
>2 hrs 40 mins
ree

How far into it?

/fraud/ used to have images of hot women all the time but not anymore

what happened?

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>>42591861

>>42591861
We realized men are objectively better.

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>>42591861

>>42591455
Nigga people pin 2-3ccs at a time without any issues. You're doing something wrong or your gear is shit

>>42591861
Marriage

>>42591857
Just skip the commercials and listen to the rest. It's a podcast, you.can listen to it while doing literally anything else

>>42591846
>mixing Superdrol with a hormone infamous for BP issues

>>42591914
Dbol spikes the shit out of my BP, Anadrol doesnt raise it.

>>42591941
Every anecdotal I've heard for Abombs not bothering them, Dbol does. I wish I was smart enough to work out why by myself.

That said, anon also is considering 30mg of Sdrol. He wants to die.

>>42591154
I do take a low dose after a carb heavy meal. I feel like it does help gains and composition.

>>42591987
Anadrol is probs progesterone based, tren doesnt give me gyno either like it does some people. Test gives me gyno at 500mg if I run it long enough.

Dbol fast gyno, its estro.

Although high test with no ai still didnt skyrocket my bp like dbol did... and that wasnt 20mg dbol..

Ive run 20mg then 30mg of sdrol before, no tudca. It doesnt seem to bother me that much,

>>42592012
250mg?

>>42591305
Not really (experienced user here). Maybe its the tren (anxiety).
I'm on tren and cardarine atm and i'm good.

>>42591941
j00 made a d00d00
in j00 underpant

>>42592023
quarter or a half of 850mg.
Always taking a half recently.
Initially I took a full dose 2 time and both time I felt sick the day after. Either its the dosing or my body adapting, but I have zero problems now.

>>42592055
Cool, Ill get the powder on my next raw order

>>42592071
Cool. Ill squirt the semen out my next fat boner

>>42592088
You dont get fat boners anymore.

How do you guys pin your left quad lateralis? It's so hard to do being right handed

>>42592138
boyfriend

>>42592138
how the fuck is that hard? just sit down and insert the needle. even your right hand should reach if you're that incompetent with your left hand

now left glute, that sucks until you get the trick

damn McCarver is dead

>>42591811
I live in Sweden so this wouldn't surprise me all that much, there will probably be mandatory estrogen and progesterone injections in the future tbqh.

Feeling a bit sad today guys :(

Just swapped from prop to enth for bulk

Is it gonna be ~4 weeks until back to normal?

>>42592227
holy fuck, how did he die?

>>42592288
steroidcalc.com

but yes

>>42592350
no info yet. He was only 25 though

>>42591455
It's usually as a result of shitty UG materials. I've never had any pip ever and I only inject pharma.

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>>42592227
>>42592350
>>42592423
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYGRwMBhckA/

>>42592227
Muh favorite up and coming bodybuilder :(
Feels bad man

>>42592471
Using BA as a solvent is a big issue - high BA hurts, also when BA leeches out it crashes the compound if the BB alone cannot keep it dissolved.

BA should only be present to keep it sterile, and not as a solvent/co-solvent.

>>42591987
The magic that is genes. Dbol barely raises my bp. Drugs will affect everyone differently. I also have always had top tier bp if that means anything. Even when I was out of shape and fat many years ago, my bp was still "excellent" according to my doctor.

>>42591846
Adrol should give a bit more strength and muscle gains, but sdrol will give completely dry gains, so you won't look like shit while you're taking it. If I were to choose between the two for a bulking cycle, I'd always pick adrol. For recomp or cutting, I would pick sdrol any day.

>>42592516
Another victim of protein powder. One too many scoops ;<

>>42589481
>>42589792

I prefer to only use 1ml with 10mcg though because i can inject less (personal preference) even though i only use about .2 a week total when im loading and .1 or less maintaining.
The main reason i use it is for my psoriasis (i can stay in the sun for longer without burning and UV fixes psoriasis)
But i do get a not too dark nice tan.

>>42592550
Would you pick sdrol for recomp/cutting or to look the best over any other oral as well?

>>42592550
I read that he had a upper respiratory infection or something. Obviously the hormonas exacerbated the problem though.

>>42592562
>Psoriasis
Find selsun shampoo containing 25mg/ml Selenium Sulfide. Apply undiluted to the affected area after washing in the shower for 5-10min daily.

Also great for the face, seborrheic dermatitis, eczema etc.

Thank me later.

>>42592569
It's nice, but it's not what I prefer the most. It can leave you feeling quite lethargic. Really really nice strength gains though and possible gains in caloric deficit.

Anavar is really nice and much less harsh, but it's expensive as fuck. I would pick anavar over it any day of the week if money isn't a huge issue.

>>42592612
Ive got both, have run sdrol before, but never anavar.

>>42592624
If it's a long cut, you could run sdrol 4 weeks at the start and then anavar towards the end of the cycle, as long as you give your liver enough time to recover between the two and use enough TUDCA.

>>42592600
Hahah yup got that too, Thanks.

I have fucking horrid skin(read as tried every soap/moisturiser/shit to fix and selsun/solarium/mt2 fixes the psoriasis outbreaks). I think maybe its the climate, when i am in more humid areas, my skin is less dry and less prone to psoriasis.
Probably shouldnt complain. Could be worse.

>>42592624
Eat my sdool

>>42592637
I dont have it over here which is a pita.. ordering some online, otherwise predninoslone cream keeps it in check in the mean time.

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>>>42592630
>>>42592630
>>>42592630
>>>42592630

steroids make my pussy smell like a gross diaper filled with boom-booms

>>42592724
that's not how any of this works

>>42592724
>t. Insider
Sounds legit. Plz send all hormonas to me for independent testing.

t. Sterons scientist

Why does my 23g needle take forever to inject? Took about 20 seconds in my glute.

>>42592908
Sexy thick glutes.

>>42592908
because of the viscosity of the oil.

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So I've been told a lot of times the average rest time is around 36 hours and then you are full ready to train the same musclegroups again. I just follow this advice and been cycling between musclegroups in a A/B pattern while going to the gym 6 times a week.

Will taking test make me able to just do a full workout daily? I heard it decreases rest time. Or will I need something else to do it.

>>42592847
I have sources tell me that the crab people have infected all tren a with aids. Send me some for testing purposes.

t. aids specialist

>>42593001
>So I've been told a lot of times the average rest time is around 36 hours and then you are full ready to train the same musclegroups again.

It all depends how hard you hit that muscle. If you did 25 sets, it will take a lot longer to recover, even on roids.

>>42593010
My sources tell me that the government has infected all vials of D-bol with the gay gene. Send me some for testing purposes

t. homo specialist

>>42590188

p sure its the estro bro. When i was high e2 i didnt lift, i skipped school and wanted to kill myself.

Any of you fag work manual labor? How did a dnp cycle affect you? I'm a package car driver doing 10 hour shifts, for reference

>>42593072
You're a fag

>>42593072
p sure you'll overheat on DNP and die.

package car driver is tough

>>42593072
you'll die of dehydration is my guess

>>42593072
Maybe if you did like 250mg/day u'd be okay.

>>42593100
>>42593184
That's what I figured. Thanks.

Being on BNC gave me alot of body hair. While it doesnt bother me generally, it hides your asthetics.

Shaving gives me pimples. Do those laser therapys really remove your body hair for good?

Or atleast for some years?

>>42592227
Makes you think.

I am curious what killed him. Just 25 with insane monster genetics, especially for a white man.

>>42593263
FDA approved medical grade laser more or less permanent

>>42593306
found with food in his throat

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>>42586965
Best designer steroid? Iv taken dmz 3.0 before with great success. Anyone recommend me something similar? I'm not st my natty limit yet but I don't want to pin at all, I have no interest in it, my uncle died to a heart attack from gear

>>42593379
are you aware that designer steroids are also bad for your health?

>>42593349
He choked his food?

That's how Prodigy also died from Mobb deep. Everyone was saying he died from kind of rare disease but apparently he died because he choked in some food.

Same people are now blaming he died from steroids.

>>42593379
LGD i guess.

All steroids raise your hormone levels, even SARMS. So a designer steroid wont keep you safe.

Anavar is prolly least harmful, but the gains are also kinda meh.
Also expensive and hard to get

>>42593388
>Choke on some chicken and brown rice
>Fucking steroids did this, man.

>>42593263
laser is pretty permanent

waxing won't give you pimples if you don't wanna go the laser way

>>42593428
its not just the pimples, just having to deal with shaving your shit off every week is annoying.

I'd rather pay sum 2000 dollarinos and be done with it for the next few years or whatever.

Do those DYI lasers you can buy from amazon work too? They are supposed to work the same way, just slower, but the end result is supposed to be permanent too

>>42593495
>Do those DYI lasers you can buy from amazon work too?
it will take hours of and not even sure to work because you are a guy

>>42593349
more proof that steroids don't kill you but food does. nattys btfo

>>42593072
When I was a electrician it nearly killed me on like 250mg. Would not recommend.

>>42593549
What was your cycle? Did you succeed on your cut?

>>42593581
>What was your cycle?
dunno
>Did you succeed on your cut?
penis

>was $9 from free shipping from source to save $25
>Just buy some extra PCT
>Just now realized I could've got free viagra instead
I am genuinely sad

>>42593581
I can't exactly remember how well I did. That was the first and last time I ever cut on DNP. I hated how weak it made me feel in the gym. I did 250mg per day I think.

I take it a lot slower on cuts nowadays and I feel a lot better because of it. I mean at some point cuts have to get drastic if you want to get into the single digits but if you just want to get 10% and look shredded I don't think the EC, DNP and all that is necessary.

>>42593495
light treatment should work on light skin with dark hair, dark follicle will absorb more light and burn

>workout in the morning for once
>normal breakfast afterwards
Fuck Im starving

>>42588224
>wanting to be wanted
You need therapy!

Yoloing all sorts of drugs while pretending every fat girl is your mom in bed
>yolo xd thicc milky tits

Fuck off

>>42593537
All the proof you need is the rate of heart disease in the U.S.

Thats from being a fat cunt.

They dont change their behavior and fix their health.

Same message for roiders - if your blood pressure, cholesterol/lipids, rhr, etc start getting worse then fucking fix it.

Ultimately its people ignoring the warning signs.

>>42593796
nice because i have very pale skin and very dark hair.

Just googled, one good DIY laser for home costs like 300€.

god damn

>>42593752
That reminds me that I need to restock nolva in case I ever have to come off. Popped some because of a gyno flare up and I don't think I have much left. I'm sure my endocrine system would be so fucked PCT wouldn't do much.

>>42593841
Im wondering if the flash gun for my camera will vaporise follicles, the flash only lasts like 1/1000th of a second on full power but it does feel hot briefly doing it against your skin in general, follicles should absorb way more energy then general area.

>>42593865
If that did end being the case (doubtful), a single dose of triptorelin should fix you up, which you can use a serm after.

>>42586965
what does Connor Murphy cycle?

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Would there be any negatives to doing strength workouts in the morning and hypertrophy workouts in the evening? I do PPL, currently on Test and Tren. And should I eat anymore to account for this or stay on my -500 amount?

>>42591498
>>42591477
It's not about better "Quality" gear, it's about the carrier oil they use. GSO is known to cause pip, but it's used because it can carry a lot higher concentrations.

Anyone else hit a plateau during their cycle?

I'm on my 10th week of 500mg test and my weight isn't changing since about 2 weeks.

Im eating around 3600 cals and now I'm upping it to 4000.

Also, is it possible to overtrain? I doubled my volume and I assume it's due to the increased volume that I'm not growing anymore, but I'm pretty much stumped. I'm now reducing my volume but I don't know if it's that and may just waste my last two weeks.

I went from 70kg to around 81kg in the first 8 weeks.

Also, funny that people say I looked bigger last winter when I had a lot higher bf percent... But that was fatceps.

Was hoping to look bigger than that with a lot less bf.

>>42593388
Apparently he tried to ingest two scoops of Hyphy Mud at once without water.

>>42593495
>its not just the pimples, just having to deal with shaving your shit off every week is annoying.

Welcome to adult life. I've had to shave really often way before steroids. It's a pain in the ass. Get yourself one of those body hair trimmers. It's much easier to use and way less irritation of the skin.

>>42593884
Test, tren, mast, anavar.

>>42593811
>yolo xd thicc milky tits
Wait are you having a go at bimbo now?

>>42593884
>connor
>steroids

dyel detected

>>42593942
i mean i had bodyhair before, but after getting on test, my entire chest and stomach is covered in thick black hair.

I have a body hair trimmer, i still get pimples.

Yes its easy but im still annoyed by it.

>>42593934
Just because your weight isn't increasing, doesn't mean that you're not putting on muscle.

What's the current amount of sets you do for the different body parts and how close to your 1RM? I do 25-30 sets a week for most body parts, split into body parts over 6 days. I've never had any issues with overtraining.

>>42587685
try to get acutane as soon as possible, i did literally the same and got acne on shoulders and back and those fucking pimples won't come off for shit, its been almost two months now and they are still visible

>>42587845
get tamoxifen, its better for gyno while cruising imo

Going to teach in Asia for a year. Taiwan has pharmacy test OTC in many pharmacies. Going to get juicy as fuck, and nut in as many tight sideways snatch as I can. I'm going on a war path, and you should all join me.

>>42593912
I switched from bathtub source to a parma source and pip went away. Same oil base and everything

>>42593973
According to a calculator, around 80% of my 1rm. So I can do about 8-10 reps per set.

Around 12-24 sets per bodypart, depending on the bodypart. Chest/back get the higher end.

I only train 4 days a week. Chest and shoulders monday and Thursday, Back and lats Tuesday and Thursday. I don't isolate biceps and tris because they get trained enough during bench/rows.

The thing that grew the most for me was chest and shoulders so far... But I expected more from this cycle to be honest. I guess I'll need a few cycles to reach my goal body.

>>42594087
Forgot to mention, sometimes legs on Wednesdays when I feel like it.

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>>42591544

I've been using bathtub test prop and after 2 weeks my belly has a red lump

>>42593953
Yeah damn just @ me next time wow

>>42594087
You're definitely not overtraining then. You have to royally fuck up to be overtraining on that amount of test. Not hitting arms directly is a huge mistake if you want good arm growth. You're really missing out on some potential gains.

What works best for me is to dedicate an entire day to arms, that's how my arms grow.

I recommend doing 1-2 exercises for your biceps and triceps (biceps back day, triceps chest day) at the end of your workout, 45-90 seconds rest.

>>42594097
Don't overlook your legs. Have a day dedicated to them. I like going really high volume for my legs, 30+ sets. I recently started employing 10x10 squats into my leg workouts, it's amazing.

>>42593965
lol at the idea of calling Connor natty

post your body big boy

>>42594161
Thanks for the advice. I'll increase my cals and add isolation for biceps and tris.

How much sets do you do for arms if you already hit them with compounds? 6?

>>42594264
Different anon here. Anything is better than nothing. I don't have an arm day, but I throw on 2~4 sets of isolation on arms every work out.

>>42594264
Arms recover quite quickly, so I hit them quite hard.

16 sets tri, 13 set bi is usually somewhere along what I do. I kind of don't have a "set in stone" workout. I mean, I have my main exercises that I try to put weight onto every week (Right now those are skullcrushers for tri and biceps curl for bi), then I do whatever exercises I feel are the best and I always include exercises that will hit all heads. My main goal is to exhaust the muscle, sometimes that takes more sets, sometimes less.

That kind of volume may be a bit too high for some people, but it works perfectly for me. Never had any trouble with progressing on my main lifts because of it.

>>42593953
>>42594144
Lmao it did come out that way

>>42593386
Of course. I'm just not interested in pins, my uncle would not have wanted me to follow him

>>42594386
>my uncle didn't want to me to shoot dope, so instead I smoke meth

>>42594386

>not interested in pins.

If there was a magic pill, everyone would be taking it. You might want to rethink your goals.

>>42591166
Checked, I've been going almost 4 weeks here edging most days. Have recently started doing kegels again and already seeing decent gains, would recommend (the kegels, not abstaining from jacking off)

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Well Dr. Elist is currently refusing to send me data or erect examples of his penile enlargement surgery. Suppose they have something to hide.

>>42594537
B-b-b-but Nofap told me that my test would skyrocket on day 7 of not jacking it.

But seriously are there any actual benefits to not jacking it or is Nofap all just a giant meme. I think my dick is starting to become retarded, I got a blowjob a few months ago and it took forever for me to cum.

>>42594612
HHHNNNNNGG

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>>42594613

I did nofap for an entire year. The end result was finding out I had no Testosterone. And all of my joints failing.

Masturbation is normal. If you don't masturbate, something is wrong. No fap is a load of shit that is far easier for low test men.

>>42594667
That explains why I've never managed more than one month and only because my friend bet me a thousand euros to get to day 90. Other than that I can barely go 2 weeks without going fucking insane.

>>42594704
I meant 100 euros, lmao.

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>>42594667

I can expand on this...

Even in the native american 'bible', men masturbate, using dead deer liver. The main teaching, by an owl, was fuck women instead. The owl also ate the liver which the man cummed in.

Men have always masturbated,. It's nothing new. The only new thing is we aren't raping women (like they want).

>>42594704

There's really no reason to, although I suggest limiting masturbating to once a day before sleep.

>>42594667
Funny how most high test chads don't jack off and instead they...you know...spend their test working out, playing, living life, fucking women.

Pissing away your test and manhood on porn and jacking off makes you less of a man.
No seriously, heavy masturbators have lower test levels then trannies and castrates.

Got diagnosed with low test the other day at 206 when it should be much higher (I'm only 26). Unfortunately the doc refuses to give me test since it's in the "low range" of acceptable.

Plan on going on TRT and doing 300 mg test cyp every two weeks for 12 weeks. Would you guys recommend nolva during the cycle and clomid for PCT or is it not necessary?

>>42594612
What is your dick size?

>>42594752
>Phd in Broscience
Use it or lose it, that's practically how your testosterone works, you need to cum at least once or twice a week

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>>42594752

Sure, as many masturbators value women too much. I fuck on the regular and she gets pissed as fuck when I don't cum inside. Abstaining from masturbation promotes desperation which is self-defeating.

>>42594762

6"x6", as always. I really never had a problem making women orgasm.

>>42594759
>Got diagnosed with low test the other day at 206 when it should be much higher (I'm only 26). Unfortunately the doc refuses to give me test since it's in the "low range" of acceptable.

Your doctor is retarded. Find a new one more willing to administer TRT. It's going to be much less of a hassle if you do it through a doctor instead of having to break the law, buying steroids, potentially getting bunk.

>Would you guys recommend nolva during the cycle and clomid for PCT or is it not necessary?

With TRT you don't have a PCT, it's a lifelong commitment. You probably won't need an AI, but if you do, use low doses of arimidex.

>Plan on going on TRT and doing 300 mg test cyp every two weeks for 12 weeks.

What do you mean? You're going to inject yourself only every two weeks? You want to inject more often than that to have stable blood levels. Inject AT LEAST once a week, preferably twice.

>>42594809
>I really never had a problem making women orgasm.
Why do you want a enlargement then? Stop looking at the bbc, it's fucking with your sense of reality.

Your dick does the job well. Do you have some kind of dick dysformia?

>>42594775
That's the single dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen posted.
You use your test simply by existing.
And being active, training, fucking, being a man means that your test is used and the aforementioned actions increase test overtime.

>>42594809
>Sure, as many masturbators value women too much. I fuck on the regular and she gets pissed as fuck when I don't cum inside. Abstaining from masturbation promotes desperation which is self-defeating.
Abstaining from masturbation promotes self control, increases your gains and makes sex feel good.
Just because I want to fuck and havent' sunk all 9 inches in anything in a while doesn't mean I'm going to stoop to banging 4/10s and reversetraps.
Besides, what's wrong with a creampie? Makes me feel good and it's been proven that it makes bitches happier then heroine and mood elevators combined.

>>42594403
Exactly
>>42594427
Imean there's stuff that definitely does a lot more than nothing.

>>42594872

Cause it'd be cool to have an 8"x8"? Lol, why don't you want a bigger dick? Bought into women's bullshit, apparently.

>>42594893
> abstaining increases your gains and make sex feel good

Spoken like a true virgin. Beyond that, I can't tell what the fuck your point is.

>>42594869

Unfortunately I don't have health insurance and have to pay out of pocket for every doctor visit and prescription - so buying my own stuff would be far more economical.

So would you recommend I up the dose to 200 - 300mg per week and take arimidex 0.25 mg per day?

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>>42594948

Armidex is not necessary but you should be injecting a minimum of 500 mg/wk

>>42594948
>0.25mg adex a day

Do you hate yourself?

>>42594893
>Sex increases test, masturbating makes you a low test beta male
Go back to your safe space on r/nofap you retard.

>>42594948
No dude, inject ~50-60 mg test e every 3.5 days. You won't have to use ai and your test will be in the middle-high range.

>>42594987
This isn't fantasy or making shit up.

This is proven science.
But sex does drop your agression levels and evens out your test so you won't have that spike when you need it, which is something that athletes want for competition.

>>42594948
0.25mg of arimidex ed is way too much, I take 50mg eod right now, but I am on 75mg of dbol. 300 per week of test is too much for TRT. 200 is the upper dose. Do 150mg a week, two injections of 75mg.

Start off with no arimidex. Then many weeks into TRT (8 weeks or so), have your test, E2 and other values tested. If you need to lower your estrogen, start taking a small amount of arimidex eod, perhaps 0.125, 1/8 of the pill or 1/4, depending on how high your levels are.

>>42595011
You know where you are right? We don't rely on natural test levels here.

>>42594989
>>42594976
>>42594989

Thanks for the advice.

I'm obviously new to this whole thing. I was shocked that I had low test since I've always had a deep voice, loads of body hair, and a generally masculine appearance. Then to hear that the doc wouldn't give me test made me flip out on him over the phone.

I'm experiencing the main symptoms of low test with diminished motivation, hair loss, aggression, shitty sleep, and lack of appetite. Also I haven't had morning wood in nearly a year. I just want to reverse things back to normal since I hate feeling like this. My strength at the gym has ceased to go up as well.

>>42595035
I mean 0.50mg eod...

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>>42595011

I thought the anon went too far until you posted. You are an idiot. Go back to your safe space. Stop calling bullshit "proven science", what the fuck is wrong with you?

If it wasn't clear my point was the fact you do nofap is because your endocrine system is fucked in the first place.

>>42595061
does this woman not realize her facial makeup is a vastly different color than the rest of her skin tone?

>>42595050
You can lose your test production later in life. You could have had a super high test during puberty, which would give you all of those traits and then have it drop off later. It can also drop off after a long and harsh diet, that shit can permanently fuck up your test production.

Nofap only has a provable benefit up to day 7, after that your test decreases.

Id like to see a study on nofap longer than a month. I'd assume your test would go below baseline, especially if celibate.

>>42595078
This

I had high ass test during puberty, one day I wake up and it's like part of me died. Now 2 months on TRT and I'm starting to feel like my old self.

>>42595090
They don't care, I point it out all the time and its just >whatever.

>>42595061
It's proven science because they tested it out, wrote down the results, and I read it.
I gave you the results, and you're sitting there saying NO YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE MEN HAVE MASTURBATED BEFORE!!!
Yes we know all of that.
But not 10 times a day while watching all manner of porn starring a nigh infinite amount preternaturally beautiful women.
And there's no telling of what equating sex to being a voyeur and masturbating is doing to the minds of people who grow up watching porn.

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>>42595050

Just inject 250 mg of Test Enanthate every 3 days and you'll feel a lot better. That's 1 cc.

Inject into your quads at testicle-height. I recommend a few beers before hand to prevent PIP. But trust me, you'll feel so much better.

>>42595090

What are you, a woman?

>>42595011
All I've read about abstaining is that after 7 days your serum testosterone spikes and after 15 days the androgen receptors in your brain gets back to normal and after abstaining for to long your test levels drop dramatically, there's been a doctor who has confirmed this and other than that there's a lot of anecdotes from men who did nofap far to long.

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>>42595109

I'm not advocating masturbating or fucking more than once a day. Sex isn't productive but it's human.

Thre's no evidence to believe that nofap is healthy. You're basically being religious. I believe nofappers have an endocrine disorder just like I did. If you had sufficient Test, you'd be masturbating or fucking ever day.

>>42595112
>Just inject 250 mg of Test Enanthate every 3 days and you'll feel a lot better. That's 1 cc.

That's not TRT. He shouldn't go that high. I mean, if he gets his test under control at a stable level, he could easily do blasts, but for now, his main concern should be to normalize his levels.

anybody ever ran dhb and boldenone? about to start 500dhb/week and have some bold leftover that i might toss in since im not pinning that much oil as it is

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>>42595183
> he shouldn't go that high

Why not? it's nothing compared to what I've done and I'm the healthiest mofo my doctor has even seen. 500 mg/wk Test is nothing and it's a standard.

What is the end result of your philosophy? To alleviate or to cure?

>>42595123
>7 days your serum testosterone spikes
Yes. There is also a study concerning college aged men who abstained for a few months and saw that their resting testosterone levels remained elevated for the entire time they abstained.

>and after 15 days the androgen receptors in your brain gets back to normal
Have not heard that. Link. I'm genuinely curious.

>after abstaining for to long your test levels drop dramatically, there's been a doctor who has confirmed this
That came from a doctor that talked about men who were suffering from ED. He said that men with ED had lower test and the way to fix the ED and Lower test was to have sex. That's the brilliant conclusion he came too.
Needless to say pro masturbators shilled the fuck out of it and the people who looked it up thought that everyone who talked about it as if it meant anything were fucking retards.

>and other than that there's a lot of anecdotes from men who did nofap far to long.
What anecdotes?

>>42595236
He is low T and he needs to fix that. He is going to come off a 500mg dose and dose at 150-200mg TRT at one point anyway, so why not find out how that dose affects his body first before he goes all blast mode.

>>42595311
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/masturbation-downregulates-certain-androgenic-receptors-in-the-brain-and-upregulates-certain-estro.6998/ the guy included all the studies he cited.

>>42595311
I've seen a bunch of guys saying that due to the fact that they had ejaculatedso little their hormone levels were fucked and they had to go on TRT, if this has anything to do at all with nofap I can't confirm, might be that there was something else at play and they wanted to blame Nofap.

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>>42595364
> 500 mg is blast mode

Look, I'm drunk, but I can't tell what you're on. If you're going to inject, then 500 mg Test-E/wk minimum. Everyone who actually injected for a bit should agree,

>>42587787
honestly why does anyone watch this autism

Is there anyone online who openly used roids since early in his gym life?
Kind of want to see what its like for skeletons/fatfags to hit the juice from the beginning.

>>42595789
Zyzz, to be honest, he was a retard and actually looked like complete shit for the amount of stuff he was taking.
But he started almost immediately.

>>42595707
500mg is the modern standard for lazy fags who want to go into late 80's early 90's era swole with as little effort as possible and as quickly as possible.

Guys from the golden age, arnold and nubret's era, were doing 250 at best and doing REAL workouts.

Hell the guys from Steeve Reeve's era were microdosing at best.

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>>42595844
I honestly really like how he looked, even at pic 5.
Did people ever find out what he was on?

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>>42595369

if I can't fap, then I will sublimate all that energy into watching anime

The Tren is really fucking with me, I had a panic attack earlier this morning and I was about to have one 5 mins ago but managed to calm down.

I dont want this guys, I've had this pre-roids on a very regular basis and its the thing I hate and fear most.
Anything that helps? Didnt happen last cycle.

>>42595844
>>42595789
Yes Zyzz would be a good example.

Had a glass of wine, should I still workout?

>>42595903
If you still feel sober I couldn't see why not.

>>42595863
caber?

I'm the palest, whitest motherfucker on the planet. Will melanotan 2 save me or should I keep going to tanning beds? Spray tans?

>>42596006
Explain. Can't find anything on Caber and reducing panic attacks.

>>42596027
your prolactin levels are out of control, caber might help stabilize your hormones

>tren is to blame for this

>>42596100
Its only been 2-3 weeks on 980mg on and I've run 800mg with no prolactin issues.

Can't imagine it ramping this quickly. Got bloods next week, will pop a caber pill and see what happens.

>tren raises prolactin
>prolactin causes panic
>surely it cant be the tren

Cmon man....

>>42595863
Rub your waifu tattoo to calm down

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>>42596013
embrace it, wear it like plate armor

>>42595844

Arnold was popping D-bol like candy. 500mg is decent to 'fags' who actually have lives and don't spend all their time on fitness.

You're a fucking idiot.

>>42596242
500megs to LOOK like you workout because you don't want to actually sully your hands with training AND is willing to sacrifice your natural long term manhood and lose a decade or more off of your life is the gayest dumbest thing I've ever heard.

The Dbol like candy thing? Do you honestly fucking think that Dbol from back then was as strong as it is now? Fuck no.
He was probably getting no more then 150-300mg.

>>42596232
Goddamn it tyrion

I want to stop looking like a serial killer. The dark circles ubder my eyes don't fucking help either.

>>42596269

I really have no idea what you're going on about. Trust me, lay off the crack, I know first hand

>>42596269
>Do you honestly fucking think that Dbol from back then was as strong as it is now?

100mgs is 100mgs

>>42596312
So you're fucking stupid.
Okay

The handful of Dbol that they took? It's not dosed the same as the stuff we have today.
So that entire thing that retards like you throw around is fucking bullshit.

Lastly, you are saying that you would rather trade a decade or more of life and your natural manhood to only LOOK like you train hard in the gym.
That's stupidly vain and the kind of thing that paves the way to narcissism induced faggotry bruh.

>>42596285
>goddamn it tyrion

mah fucking boy <3

Yah it looks shit and unhealthy on the face.

>>42595112
>TRT
>500 mg/week
ok

>>42596342
The orals they took weren't as potent as what is around today.

I think you should look up the steroid cycles and what kind of gear they took back then.

This bullshit about fist fulls of steroids has gone on long enough.

I'm the same lad with minor pectus that posted here once. Think I'm gonna go for melatonan 2, my pale brother. Even mr panini used it an one point.

Meant >>42596405 for >>42596361

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>>42596343
>>42596374

Alright, can anyone here offer any studies indicating 500 mg/wk is unsafe or ineffective? Tired of debating with these retards. If you don't like steroids or you blame them for your inadequacies then fuck off, you're in the wrong thread.

>>42596391
1 mg is 1 mg

If you have 10mg pills or 50mg pills doesn't matter, just take 5 instead of 1.

The compounds potency does not change either as that would mean it's a different compound.

>>42596432
This is exactly why I hate you so much.

>>42596432
Yes, it's effective TRT.

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>>42596506

Hating me didn't accomplish much, did it?

>>42596541

Yes.

Why do people say steroids are expensive.
For me it's just like a slightly more expensive gym membership.

>>42596973

Higher doses and more compounds will drive up your costs significantly, but for the average user, the big cost is blood work. Doing your ideal "pre-cycle, mid-cycle, and post-cycle" blood work tacks on quite a bit of money to a cycle.

Consider the costs for a basic test and dbol cycle. That would run you maybe $200 (roughly). Three sets of basic blood work would run you $255, more than doubling your costs.

But if you're just yoloing it, steroids are cheap as fuck.

>>42597053
>Tfw free healthcare

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>>42594948
dont listen to >>42594976
If all you want to do is TRT then do 50mg twice a week, this has me at 1300-1500.

>>42597053
I am only running test actually.
Should I get me some Dianabol as well? My source only has oral though.

>>42597139
Nope, dbol is a meme oral.

>>42597198
What about injected?

>>42596269
>Do you honestly fucking think that Dbol from back then was as strong as it is now? Fuck no.

If anything, a lot of the UG dbol these days is underdosed.

>>42596013
It can and it can also give you tons of ugly moles all over your body. Not a risk worth taking when there's self tanning that looks quite real.

>>42596133
Just run it at 525mg a week or something, no need to go that high for good results. You're going to have much less sides.

>>42596973
Testosterone is cheap, other shit like tren is expensive. When you start stacking multiple compounds, it starts getting quite expensive. You can easily just run test at higher doses and get great results for cheap, though, it's not like you have to use tren and other compounds.

>>42597139
It depends how far you are into your test. Dbol should only be used as a kicker.

>>42597198
No, it's not. Dbol is one of the best steroids out there. You do gain a lot of water, but you also gain a lot of muscle and strength on top of it. It's a great steroid if you have your E2 under control. It's also super cheap, so that's a plus.

>>42597285
>It depends how far you are into your test. Dbol should only be used as a kicker.
I'm actually waiting for my stuff to arrive. I might just get some injectible dbol actually, to maximize my gains.

>>42597319

Don't bother with injectable dbol. Just get the oral and use TUDCA.

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>>42597330
>Don't bother with injectable dbol.
>>42597198
>Nope, dbol is a meme oral.

>>42597354
well dbol really is a meme oral. doesn't mean it's bad, but it's memed for no reason as T H E kickstarter oral when literally the only hard thing about your first cycle is AI management and dbol comes shit all over that.

basically if you're above 12% you really shouldn't be using it as a kickstarter. even if you aren't... another oral is probably better. but you do you, I got memed into dbol too and I lived.

>>42597407
What if I go the easy way and just inject it

>>42597413
it doesn't make it any easier on anything. it makes it slightly less liver toxic, that's about it.

>>42597354

Dbol has been on the market for over fifty years. There's a reason for that.

Injectable dbol is still hepatoxic (though some claim it's less so), and you have to pin before lifting, so what's the point?

>>42597413

Injecting it won't change the estrogenic effects.

>this thread
>crtl+f "crusader"
>0/0 results

What the fuck guys?

>>42597407

>memed for no reason as T H E kickstarter oral

I would probably suggest it for that because it's somewhat less hepatoxic than other orals, and noobs are the ones most likely to not use liver support or generally fuck up in that regard.

>>42597442

>expecting people on a Malaysian basket-weaving forum to be upset when some faggot who only whines about abusing his girlfriend isn't here

Try actually making on-topic contributions to the thread. Maybe then people will miss you.

>RIP Marcel

nuevo

>>42597484
>>42597484
>>42597484

>Last week before I leave for Japan
>Virtually no side effects from 150mg Tren A Ed
>Decide to up it to 175mg Ed to finish off the vial before I leave
>Back is now covered on acne
Just fuck my shit up

I'm already in 20mg of accutane Ed and it would probably be pointless to up it. Also I don't know if this acne is progestogen related or maybe it's the high androgenic rating of tren. I guess it serves me right for running it so high.