Why Scientists Can’t Agree on Whether It’s Unhealthy to Be

>>42508510
Shut up, fatty.

I don't really trust "health reports" from major newspaper or media outlet if it conflicts with what I've been reading from health-specific websites. All of their articles are usually lean towards justifying unhealthy lifestyles (like CNN telling people fasting is a dangerous fad diet that's simply too hard).
>6% lower
Even if true, that's not much. I'd rather be strong, sexy, and be able to appreciate myself in the mirror than have a 6% higher chance of "dying." (from what exactly?) I'm a 30 right now and I fucking hate myself.

>>42508510
Probably because fat people stay inside and do nothing risky all day besides eat.

maintenance medication has come a long way.
Get your insulin and you won't die 30years younger, just maybe 4 or 10years younger.

The thing is the vast majority of overweight people are in a transitional state from normal to obese. No shit they aren't dying like obese people, the damage takes years to add up - by the point it does they're no longer just overweight. This is like pointing to smokers under 40 and saying the risks for smoking aren't clear because they aren't keeling over like the older smokers.

>>42508510

In the immediately following paragraph:

> A “pile of rubbish” is what Walter Willett, a Harvard University professor of epidemiology and nutrition, deemed that paper. Willett has co-authored studies finding the opposite effect. He and Andrew Stokes, a demographer at Boston University, say Flegal’s work suffers from a problem they call “reverse causality.” They think that because she didn’t examine her subjects’ entire weight history, her study didn’t control for people who used to be overweight, but became normal-weight because they got sick before they died. They argue her study conflates normal-weight, healthy people with formerly overweight people who lost weight due to liver disease, cancer, or some other illness. Having those individuals in the pool of normal-weight people makes the normal-weight people seem sicker, and the overweight people seem healthier, than they actually are.

>>42508510
Fuck that shit. When I was at a BMI of 30 I felt fucking awful. The emotional issues alone of being so unhappy with my appearance were enough to get me to finally start losing weight.

I'm now at a 25.8 BMI and working to get back down to a 22-23 range. I feel so much better and I look 5 years younger.

>>42508510
>being overweight is healthy
>meanwhile every single HAES fag dies in their 40s

BMI over-states the bodyfat of men and understates the bodyfat of women. Over-fatness in general helps extend the life of people with wasting diseases (aggressive cancers, chemo side effects, etc).

>>42508510
Most people between 25 to 30 BMI aren't really that fat. I'm 25.8 and people call me skinny, outline of my ribs is visible at all times, etc. It's an arbitrary line - the practical difference between 24.9 and 25.1 is really nothing.

And maybe, just maybe, when we're talking about life and death issues - and obesity certainly is one, not to mention a growing public health crisis - we should use measurements more nuanced than a person's height and weight.

>>42508744
TL:DR
Fatties lose weight on their deathbed and count towards "unhealthy thin people"

>>42508744
Go figure a female tried to make healthy people seem like the worse off group.

>>42508510
That's fat out wrong.