In simple terms, how long does it take to get "ripped" ?
Not huge muscle mass, just thin skinned or six packed ?
If you have average muscle mass now, 20lbs or so over weight, about 12 weeks of strict calorie counting and training ?
More like 120 weeks, if you're genetically lucky.
>>42491140
If you're jaded about your failure to get fit that's okay but don't ruin it for other people.
>>42491113
8 month - 1.5 year
>>42491168
nah, about 4 months MAXIMUM if you're not a fatass
you cunts don't try hard enough i swear
>400 cal deficit a day
>some for of medium to hard cardio every day for 20 minutes
>do your regular lifting routine (so 4 to 6 days lifting of 45 minutes to an hour per week)
>drink lots of water
>sleep 8 hours or so per night
thats literally it, if you don't see results doing this you're doing something wrong
>>42491113
>12 weeks
Possible if high level training regime and diet.
Problem is you cant really sustain a ripped body without roids, it's way too unhealthy and your gains will suffer.
>>42491231
This, it's really all about consistency