>be virgin at late age >idolize sex and having a girlfriend

>>42471591
You're probably right, but I'm a virgin so I refuse to believe you.

>>42471591
Congrats anon. Now you can leave this place. Go, be free.

You can balance it, but many great men throughout history chose to forgoe women in pursuit of greater things.

>>42471591
>mfw i realize sex is a meme
It kind of is if you actually have to work very hard for it, the opposite case are those guys who literally get girls by just being them (I know a few), the time in our life is limited so better to use it in more fullfilling stuff than in the pursuit of pussy. Also, a gf is a pain in the ass in the long run.

>Have really good sex
>Realise sex brings pleasure, but fulfilment comes from sacrifice and spiritual investment

>>42471591
>>mfw i realize i was happier forever alone
Fuck me, I'm on the doorsteps of leaving her and I'm already thinking about how better my life was before I met her.

>>42471660

I don't agree with you. The way I got this girl was basically meeting her through a friend, and then meeting up with her like three times to just do whatever I was going to do that day anyway. After that we went to my place and she pretty much pulled my pants off and forced her mouth onto my dick. I really think it's a meme either way

>>42471591
Maybe if you had loving sex with a girl you really care about instead of degenerate sex with a girl you vlearly weren't compatible with, you would enjoy it a lot more.

>>42471783
It's certainly possible, but I'm not really sure where to find anyone like that

>>42471783
This is correct. Sex isn't a meme - YOU are a meme, and sex is how you repost yourself. The point is to have a family. Your relationship failed because it had no direction.

>>42471795
But where do you find girls who agree? All the girls in my age range (20-24) seem to be into more into fucking randoms off tinder, weird restaurants, and netflix.

>>42471819
Please respond

>>42471795
>the point is to have a family
You were good until that.

>>42471819
You don't, world's fucked

>>42471591
You were a desperate horny idiot who jumped on your first opportunity of pussy instead of actually dating someone because you like them. It was nothing but your own horny desperation that got you into this mess; take responsibility for your own shortcomings, learn from them, and move on.
If however you choose to continually blame others instead to avoid ever having to admit you were wrong, you will continue on a depressing downward spiral in life.
The choice is yours OP, choose wisely

>>42472296
No you're right dying alone and childless is much better.
>>42471819
You don't. They will find you once you get serious about your career. They appear like Pokemon the higher your level is.

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>>42471591
Great post, m'sir. Us enlightened gentlemen need to let these degenerate heathens know of the inferiority of women! Ignore degenerates of inferior intelligence, their social success is evidence they are unable to understand the world as we do.

>>42472706
I don't think women are inferior to me though ? For example, my sister is quite successful and seems to do a lot less stupid shit than me

>>42471591
Just find a gf that's not shit

>>42472374
Honestly it sounds like it's his fault. He "got the impression" that his life was getting worse, he got fat, he got miserable. Why? He doesn't say she cheated on him or demeaned him or spent all his money or did anything to fuck with him at all. Going purely off OPs greentext the problem arose purely out of his head. He sounds mentally ill and in need of therapy or he will just repeat this pattern with the next woman, even if she's a decent person.

>>42471819
Guess what that's all the guys are interested in either. Most men and women go through life totally blind and unthinking. If you want someone with real value you need to possess real value yourself and that usually means having a life and a career.

>peak
>Realize life can only go downwards now
How to avoid this feel?

>>42471591
Hello me and nice blog post

>>42472784
I guess I haven't put a huge amount of thought into my career, but I have a degree/skills in a marketable area and make about 70k/yr in a relatively low COL area one year out of school. I don't really feel that behind unless I'm comparing myself to people on the CEO/star researcher track

Materialistic culture is the real meme.

Having a lover, having material possessions like money and cars affords more status. More status affords better money making oppotunities, more money affords more respectable women and more respectable women afford more status.

For status you have to work hard and demonstrate your worthiness to those above you who afford you status. Sometimes this lines up with your own goals in life but, eventually you will feel like shit.

Status is like dopamine. Most people think dopamine satisfies you like a reward but, in reality dopamine only reinforces behaviours that trigger it's release like an addiction. Status works the same way.

The only relationships that are truly valuable are those where either you have total control or you are able to engage outside of this reward system. Both types of relationships are increasingly difficult to obtain.

how do u get gf

>>42472820
Good guide for bros
>See lady
>Bonk
>Gf
Simple

>>42472816
Honestly I'm thinking about just becoming full Christian. Unless some relationship to God (or a god for people who practice other religions) is in the picture, I feel like I'm too likely to be pushed around by petty impulses like desire for money and sex and status.

>>42472841
Religion can be a good thing to give your life structure and guidance. I myself am a lifelong atheist but I still see it as being a constructive force in communities. Most people are too misguided to live without it and turn to shit like social media and drugs and money obsession. That said, don't be autistic about it and become super preachy or hardcore. People around here seem to only believe in extreme measures.

>>42472820
Have healthy self esteem
Be normal
Put yourself around girls

Most guys are too fucked from porn/video games/bad food to compete

>>42472841
Just get some self awareness as control yourself. Go full stoic my dude.
If you're serious about going full Christian I'd recommend reading Pascal's Pensées to see the true and proper Christian or rather Catholic Life.

need pussy to stay sane
gf is a meme
never fall in love

>>42472908
Note that most guys ignore this advice because they have too many fantasies about being the king millionaire alpha dbag pimp god. Position in the male status hierarchy and getting girls have NOTHING in common unless you confine yourself to playing that game. Girls will fuck and bf random scrubs who can just be normal for long enough

>>42471591
Yeah sounds like you met the wrong girl, you're supposed to meet someone who you're compatible with, not someone you have to bury the true self for.

>>42472841
I suppose surrendering yourself to a higher power could work but, I know plenty of religious people who basically use their faith as an excuse to be even more insufferable.

What I do is basically the opposite. By only thinking of what I really want and outright dismissing every concern, idea, person or concept that comes in my way, I feel much more in control of my destiny and social urges. I define everything by how it is of use to me and my overall goals. For me this meant dismissing things like money, status, morality and conventional ideas of what it means to be a good person since all of those things ultimately get in the way of my goals. This could be just as bad as becoming religious if you aren't careful in considering your actions.

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>>42471591
>my relationship with this girl failed
>therefore sex and relationship is bad in general

>>42471591
Youre making it sound like its an either/or scenario when its really a both/and

>>42471591
Anon, you're not 95% correct, sex is indeed a meme.

However, the other 5% is on the off chance you find the rare girl who isn't a vapid shallow purse loving whore, isn't an unemployable no skill money wasting cunt, but is someone who shares almost all your interests and values, life is a lot better when you're in a relationship with her than when you are alone.

But other than that 1 in a million girl, being alone is way better, and you're right, never compromise your standards and values for pussy.

>>42472912
Thanks for the recommendation, I'm going to add it to my list. I'm planning on reading more scripture, and then the classics like Augustine, Aquinas and some theology . I was born into the Protestant tradition but I've been exploring what the Catholics are up to lately. They seem to have a lot that seems extremely wise to me, but I'm not sure whether I should consider converting or not yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxvtYOITvg

>>42472788
fuck off

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>>42471591

>>42471591
I'm torn.
>mfw i realize sex is a meme and self-improvement was the real prize
This tells me you know the truth, but ...
>study scripture, history, mythology, math, languages, etc.
... tells me you're a turbo autist making shit up.

>>42471600
he is right, a decent gf is extremely rare nowadays

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>>42471819
You know you can date girls who are younger than you right? Try to look for sweet girls, rather than ones who will be a good fuck.

[spoiler]I say that but it seems that even girls as young as 16 or 17 have already fucked at least two guys. It's fucking depressing.[/spoiler]

That's usually how it goes, think of it like sanding, you're smoothening out the all the rough spots, it gets better, you learn and grow etc. A lot of people have first relationships like this.

>>42473112
Protestantism is a meme. What you really need to read right now is Augustines Confessions. He was a Pagan who fucked lots of girls and sinned constantly, yet still found his way to God and became a saint. He realized that the things he was doing were completely meaningless and searched for a higher calling.

>>42474549
Thanks, that is probably #1 on my list. Loyola's biography sounded inspiring to me as well but I'm not sure if I'm ready for his actual work yet

>>42474673
*Ignatius of Loyola's

>it's my girlfriend's fault I'm a paranoid workaholic with no self-control

Okay. Meanwhile, I'll be over here with all the other guys who don't become spineless cretins just because a girl lives with us.

>>42471591
Sounds like you were an idiot that didn't know how to set boundaries, dumbass. Your woman should not impede your life, she should complement it; if she is interfering, you fucked up. Reset your boundaries with her, stick to them, and you'll be fine.

>>42471591

>Religion

There's your problem, anon. You suffer from delusions and believe in magic and entities that cannot possibly exist. You should work on eliminating these harmful deviations from reality.

You suffer from a genetic illness that causes the brain to become delusional and irrational. I recommend watching Rick and Morty to cure this.

>>42471600
yeah he is, it was truly a redpill for me

>>42474745
OP do not listen to this gains goblin. OP speaks the truth and this person feels threatened by your independence.

>>42471591
If only I learned this after fucking twenty girls. My gains are forfeit, for I have aids. Not hiv, but aids. How I wish I had more time to read literature

>>42476316
I'm really sorry dude. I prayed for you.

>>42474834
>tips fedora
M'lady

>>42474834
>Rick and Morty
Not gonna lie, you had me going there for a bit. 8/8.

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How can i get work ethic gains?? Does the degenerate desire for pussy was what inspired you to work hardware?

>>42471591
Your girlfriend isn't the reason you got fat and didn't get enough sleep, you are.

>>42471591
Congratulations
You became a normie for a month.

>>42476893
If you want more work ethic, you might have it already. I've hurt myself repeatedly from trying too hard and tunnel vision; my life always gets better when I focus on reflection rather than trying to make things happen

>>42471591
What I've realized is that self-improvement and becoming more sexually attractive are the same shit
>fit
>well-dressed and groomed
>money
>social skills
>cultured/interesting hobbies
It's like if you start lifting for girls, then end up lifting for yourself. Except it extends way beyond fitness into all aspects of your life.