Daily reminder that veganism will kill your testosterone and

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>>42390801
that albino kid wouldn't last few minutes in africa because witch doctors would harvest him

no. it's just that only low-test faggots go vegan

well duh

that is an ugly baby holy fuck. also cam we stop having vegan threads all together? i mean i know ulit is a troll and shitpost but people actually believe it sometimes and they post the same 3 autistic people as they themselves are retarded. can we ban these threads? mods?

>>42390841
it's not albino

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>>42390841
fuck, that looks good

>>42390801
Sperm count is down all over the western world. It's most likely due to the hazards of modern living, crappy food, low physical activity, pollution, over medication. The abundance of Wi-fi and cell phone signals might also be causing a negative effect to our bodies.

>>42390906
you'll love this channel then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxbA8FJcEzs

>>42390801

Or is it a chicken egg thing where low test men are simply more likely to go vegan?

Only science has the answer!

>>42390881
Fuck off. Just because you're triggered doesn't mean it should be off limits.

>spotted the low test beta male vegan trying to ban things that make him uncomfortable even though they're perfectly legitimate topics to discuss.

I bet you think those antifa cunts are a bunch of heroes

>>42391016
if you were capable of reading you would notice i am on your side. i am saying end the stupid fucking vegan threads, no one here is actually vegan they just post it to troll and shitpost

>>42390892
So either the black guy had some significant white ancestry or the world's ugliest Aryan man cucked him

>>42390956
>been camping since i was 5
>always cook toast on a shitty fork, half the time burn it or drop it in the fire
>not once in 20 years did i think of buying a cast iron sandwich press

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>>42390801
What the fuck is wrong wither he face? its like someone shoved a block made of bone into skin and called it a skull

>>42390801

This was born Thurg, first of the Orc race

>>42391281

Slavs are very prone to have a square jaw.

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>>42390841
That's fucking disgusting, t. non vegan
>>42390906
>All these sauces at exorbitant amounts mixed with the meat, God forbid you want a bite of just meat
>This extremely non uniform cooking of the meat, half burned half raw, not well done at all
>The way of cutting and handling the meat, like a literal faggot handling literal garbage
>By the way, cut it even thinner, grandpa and the toddlers can't chew
>Only pickled sides, no pita, grilled bread, rice, baked potatoes, fries, some salad or anything to dilute down the already hyperbolic tastes of pickles, charred meat and vinegret so that you can enjoy the next bite anew

>Good

American, right? Or maybe some Celt/Gothic race?

>>42390801
i'd still fuck here

the mom not the kid or nigger

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>>42390941
>The abundance of Wi-fi and cell phone signals might also be causing a negative effect to our bodies.

>>42391081
It's a daily reminder for those that aren't aware of the issue. Just because you know about it doesn't mean all the new people that visit this board every day have.

Stop being such a special snowflake. The world does not revolve around you. You would insult my ability to read only to miss the main point of my post yourself.

>>42391414
But they are though. Bluetooth signals have already been shown to lower sperm count

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>>42390801
>anti vegan shills are also /pol/tards

made me think,

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>>42391893
>Vegan population is nearly a perfect fit to fag population.

Really makes you think.

>>42391312
I keked audibly

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>it's another "angry meat eater posts a wall of links nobody will read to make people take his word for granted" episode
Jesus Christ you faggot, just stop lying already
>Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
Talks about vegetarians, not vegans
No mention of sample size of each group
No mention of other factors like activity level, BMI
Doesn't even say that vegetarians have less sperm, only says "different count"
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/
Thanks for posting this. This proves you don't even read the papers you post. This is pro soy, and you could tell just by reading the abstract, which you didn't.
To save everyone else time, health benefits are in chapter 5 and infertility/feminisation are in 7.2.
Thanks again for shooting yourself in the foot, this is fucking gold
>Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
Again,not about vegans but vegetarians. Maybe eggs and milk are the bad guy, not meat, so you can't claim vegans have it worse than vegetarians
But let's assume you're right. Are you?
"...free testosterone, however, did not differ significantly during the 6 wk dietary intervention periods and neither did serum concentrations of sex hormone binding globulin, dihydrotestosterone, dehydroepiandrosterone sulphate, 4-androstenedione, estrone, estradiol, estrone sulphate, or gonadotropins. ... a minor decrease in total testosterone and no significant changes in physical performance"
(To readers: FREE testosterone matters, not TOTAL)
1/2

>>42390801
>Daily reminder that veganism will kill your test

all ur studies just say vegetarian diets idiot

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>>42392011
>>42390801
2/2 of your destruction
>http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
Same as before.
Tiny sample size
Not uniform population but rather specific group (7DAs)
Vegetarians, not vegans
3 days only
No mention of age, activity level or BMI
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
Same again, this is getting boring
>http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49
Another link you didn't read.
No mention of vegans or vegetarians at all, also this:
"There were no significant correlations observed between any nutritional variables and preexercise C or the absolute increase in T and C after exercise."
>Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Lol, more lies
"We present the case of a (SAMPLE SIZE=1) 19-y-old type 1 DIABETIC but otherwise healthy man (LOL) with sudden onset of loss of libido and erectile dysfunction after the ingestion of large quantities of soy-based products in a vegan-style diet. ...To the best of our knowledge, THIS IS THE FIRST REPORT of a combination of decreased free testosterone and increased DHEA blood concentrations after consuming a soy-rich diet.

COPE HARDER FRUITCAKE

>>42390941
>>42391676
What? Are you guys serious? I guess hospitals are literal deathtraps then, they use a lot of wireless tech.

>>42392027
>>42392011

>meat eaters BTFO again by science

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>>42390801
burn the coal, pay the toll.

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>>42390801
Was this woman Vegan? is poor mental health the reason she bred with a nigger and produced an human abomination?

>>42392593
>Niggers
>Human
Kek

Good, children fucking suck. Im jewish anyway our strength isnt in numbers

>>42392629
Was she vegan? Mental deterioration is like the only logical response as to why you would want to shit out a fucking nigger

I had no trouble getting my wife pregnant within a couple of times of fucking without protection, as a vegetarian of over 15 years.

Perhaps there's no universally good or universally bad omnivore or vegan diet but instead specific food choices matter?

I know, shocking. Maybe vegans that eat mostly processed carbs have lower sperm count and omnivores that eat a lot of fatty beef full of hormones get heart attacks.Maybe any effect of the diets can be attributed to these instead of the general arbitrary philosophy behind the diet?

>>42392644
>>42392593
I like how you baselessly insist on the red herring instead of >>42392011 and >>42392011 which actually expose OP, the non vegan, as mentally ill.
COPE
HARDER

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>>42390956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9oIYE4iWMk

CHECK THIS SHIT OUT YOU DUMB NIGGERS

MOTHER FUCKING ESKIMOS ATE STRAIGHT UP RAW FUCKING SEALS

THESE NIGGERS JUST DID NOT GIVE NO FUCKS

>>42392717
And why are Eskimos an example to follow exactly?

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>>42392713
>red herring

SEE>>42392717
Humans in colder climates eat an all meat diet raw you think the mother fuckers just did that shit because they were not adapted and performed better on it?

hurr durr They could have migrated to warmer places to find more plants but thrived on it instead of dying off. Fuck your stupid cherry picked scientific bullshit

>>42392746
Eskimos eat meat because they literally have no choice

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>>42392724
>>42392724
Eskimos, Sami in Sweden and some other fucking pacific islanders, Plus native Americans had very little incidents of heart disease and cancer

>>42392405
hahahaha who the fuck made this?

>>42392787
Nice source, I'm convinced

>>42390892
>not albino
>nigger dad
U wat?

>>42392405
This needs to spammed on zuckerbook immeaditly

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>>42390956

Have you ever grilled bacon?

PERFECT BACON

>>42393210
It would never gain traction because noone influential would post it
Even if it did, sjws would shoot it down
Even if they fail, what do you think you'll achieve?

>>42391651
hey dont be mad cause you dont have the brain capacity to read a post lol

>>42391893
>vegans are also cuckolds
really activated my almonds

>>42393156
>source

It is right, i made a statement your job is to be my bitch and disprove me

>>42393533
Why would I disprove you if I'm completely convinced, anon?

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>>42392405

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>>42393596
>Have decent ancestors 100 generations ago
>Inbreed like crazy until you're low-IQ with lots of diseases

pottery, no other ancient civilization has destroyed itself so hard, not only economically but genetically as well

>>42390841
looks disgusting, compeltely overcooked

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>>42392717
>>42392746
can confirm, i eat an all raw diet, plenty of raw eggs, raw milk, and raw meat everyday. i even eat raw chicken and pork and i feel better than ever

>>42393671
>2017
>not cooking your milk for optimum protein availability

>>42393703
quality vs quantity

>>42393596
>Left
All I see is stolen Byzantine architecture
>Right
Accurate

>>42393766
>All I see is stolen Byzantine architecture
do you actually study architecture or... ?

>>42393820
Are you unironically implying that the Mongol Seljuks had any form of culture before they invaded the Byzantine empire or are you just shitposting?

>>42393633
Looks carmelized given how easy it is for him to cut

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>>42393248

>90% fat streaky bacon

>perfect

what did he mean by this

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>>42393596
i love how somebody was assblasted enough to make this

somebody post the uma delica magda edit

>>42390801
Poor kid, she's ugly as sin. Also LOL. Being a coal burner, 100% guarantee transition to single mother.

>>42393596
Middle East had/has some great civilisations. You can't compare them to Africans.

>>42391312
KEK

>>42393633
>overcooked
Do you not know how smoking meat works?

>>42392082
Hospitals really are literal death traps though. You are more likely to get sick from spending excessive time in a hospital than almost anywhere else.

>>42392027
>>42392011
>vegetarians, not vegans
>thinks that bodes well for vegans
>assumes the scientists don't know how to control variables
>thinks normal humans don't also drink milk and eat eggs

go have autism somewhere else. i'm about to cook up some chicken breasts wrapped in bacon and stuffed with jalepenos and cheese and then pound a few glasses of milk to maximize my gains.

>inb4 hurr durr milk has 1 ppb of pus in it you're basically drinking the sludge from an abscess, look into modern crop production and discover what YOU'RE really eating. lots of animal shit and organophosphates.

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>>42393633
Is that a joke?

>>42391692
kek

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>>42391692
Top tier kek

>>42395924
Kek why so mad, struck a nerve?

>>42396279
>mad
>low test vegancucks projecting their feminine reactions to confrontation onto real men

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Doesn't seem like there's too much scientific consensus on this, couldn't find much research at all really, tho tbf I only did a quick search on WoS.

>>42391356
>That's fucking disgusting, t. non vegan

found the picky eating faggot who only eats quarter pounders with no onions 24/7.

your parents didn't cook, i guarantee it.

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>>42396295
Wow I did strike a nerve. A sensitive one too. Sorry I hurt your feelings man, I hope you recover soon

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>>42396299
Also this

tl:dr Veganism won't affect your test unless you eat a ton of soy

>>42396331
>The only ways to cook meat are either badly charring the outside or eating fast food burgers
>Your parents didn't cook
The fact that your (wrong) opinion on how wide the cooking range of meat is or isn't shows that rather your parents can't cook for shit. I'm so sorry you never had a well done steak, and will scoff at its sight and not appreciate it. God knows what your opinion is on grilled pancetta, makloubeh, mansaf, crepinettes, Smyrna meatballs, and souvlaki with pita, fries and tzatziki. You probably won't even encounter these words again, let alone taste the dishes.
I am very glad I'm not you. I literally pity you. I typed all this out to engage you on the 1% you actually care to discover what tasty food can be like.
Recognise your shortcomings. The world is much larger than you.

TLDR FAGGOT

>>42396377
>appeal to emotion
>concern trolling

You've sold me on veganism.

>>42396474
>veganism won't affect your gains unless you eat too much of one of like 3 viable sources of protein for vegans

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>>42396507
Pretty much

>>42391939
jesus

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>>42396507
>You've sold me on veganism.
Concern trolling much?
Anyway, please help me mend your feelings.

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>>42396556

>>42391939
>>42396541
Textbook example of correlation vs causation
>>42396534
You do realise this is a joke post from r/vegan itself, right?

>>42396580
Lol
1) there are vegan alternatives for like 90% of the things in that shitty infograph
2) appeal to futility
3) Google "vegan society definition"

>>42396582
I don't browse reddit

>>42390801
>not naming the file radicalbatboyvisage.jpg

Reminder that Plato suggested that the lower classes should have restricted access to meat so they should remain docile.
>vegcucks

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>>42396615
>Plato
>Not cucked beyond repair

>>42396377
You realise those animals only exist because we eat them right. To call for global vegetarianism is to call for the genocide of pigs and cattle.

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>>42396615
>Trusting philosophy virgins instead of STEM Chads

>>42396556
>even if it involves needlessly abusing animals
But.. they don't need to be abused though? That's just a retarded statement.

>>42396688
No, you're wrong. Pandas, tigers, Tasmanian devils etc are not food but we still help preserve their population

>>42396592
>there are vegan alternatives to refined sugar, fireworks, linoleum, rubber. plywood and plastic

you're right about one thing, the vegan alternatives to manure developed by Monsanto and Bayer are great for animals.

>>42396703
Anon, thank god this is an anonymous forum. Otherwise, this would have been an extremely embarrassing moment for you.

>>42396717
Right, because they're cool and exotic we keep them around for our entertainment. So basically the only way pigs and cattle would continue to live is because we think they're interesting and go out of our way to make sure they don't die.

>>42396728
Projection.

>>42393596
Kek

>>42396582
you realize the source is literally in the picture and it's not reddit?

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>>42396377
>appeals to emotion
>disapproves of emotional responses contrary to the particular emotion he wished to elicit.
Consider my almonds activated.

>>42396731
>>42396703
Watch Earthlings. Inb4:
>But I can't stand to watch it
>NOT ALL slaughterhouses are like that
>It's propaganda! Tinfoil hats everyone!
Eating someone else INHERENTLY requires their death. Killing someone for your profit/amusement is BY DEFINITION abuse.
https://www.google.gr/search?q=abuse+definition

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>>42396501

>>42390845
Kek

Correlation doesn't prove causation. You chould be right.

>>42396778
No, they literally don't need to abuse them. Some do, I'm aware of that and would prefer they don't but there's no need.

>Eating someone else INHERENTLY requires their death. Killing someone for your profit/amusement is BY DEFINITION abuse.
First of all calling an animal a someone is kinda weird. Second of all it's not really abusive, they would likely have never been born if they were not going to be eaten and their death does not have to be painful. THIRDLY if you insist on saying killing something without pain is abuse my response is lmao I don't give a fuck they're tasty and nutritious and I'm glad they died for my benefit.

>>42396765
>>Appeal to emotion
Don't use terms you don't know the meaning of. "Appeal to emotion" implies I made a fallacious argument. I wasn't making any argument at all, I was just making fun of >>42396295 >>42395924

>>42393596
you know that the mathematicians of the babylonian were more scholars collecting the work of white greek men?

>>42396717
Pigs and cattle would not survive in the wild like their undomesticated relatives (boars and bison/buffalo, respectively)

They would go extinct pretty quickly without human protection

>>42396820
you are so butthurt holy shit


vegancucks etarnally btfo

I really wish we could have comfy vegan/vegetarian threads.
Not either but I try to keep my consumption of meat down and would like non-shitflinging threads.
9/10 posts are shitposts, from vegans and meateaters.

Posting those awful comics should be a bannable offense, they are tumblr tier.
Arguing about the morality of it is asinine as well, some value animals differently.
Discussion should be limited to health benefits and foods.

Question to anyone ITT: How do you cook non-shit seitan?
I tried to cook it from vital wheat gluten and the only edible way so far is fried nugget style.
Any tips?

>>42396501
Explain souvlaki to me, it's one of my favorite albums and it would be cool to have it to be one of my favorite foods as well.

>>42396807
>First of all calling an animal a someone is kinda weird.
Do you call your dog he/she or it? Do you interact with him or do you use it?
Animals definitely qualify as someONE and not someTHING.
>Second of all it's not really abusive, they would likely have never been born if they were not going to be eaten and their death does not have to be painful.
Philosophical debates are a tall order, I am a simple man trying to fall asleep
>THIRDLY if you insist on saying killing something
Someone*
Things don't feel pain (or anything, for that matter)
>without pain is abuse my response is lmao I don't give a fuck they're tasty and nutritious and I'm glad they died for my benefit.
The fact that you don't care doesn't make it ethical, it only makes you selfish

>>42396871
That's the way nature works and has worked for millions of years, deal with it.

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>>42396820
>I made a fallacious argument.
Yep

>>42396867
I only post the comics as a direct response to someone, they are always on topic. They are just a tool to cut down on typing to explain a concept.
Souvlaki is basically skewered dead pig/dead chicken bites in a tiny wooden spit, grilled. You can put eggplant, zucchini, pepper, mushroom, onion and tomato bites too

>>42396900
Please articulate the argument in P => Q form
>>42396890
Cobra poison, tornadoes and freezing to death in the winter are natural too anon, as is shitting where you sleep.
Know what is unnatural? Cars, phones, computers, the internet, vaccines etc.

>>42396765
HORRIBLE! how could you kill that innocent fish who was only trying to eat the worm meat!
eating living beings is wrong!

>>42391356
This post gave me a good idea of how to compose meat centric meals, thanks anon

>>42396919
>Cobra poison, tornadoes and freezing to death in the winter are natural too anon
There's nothing wrong with any of these.
>as is shitting where you sleep
Actually not even animals will do that unless given no choice.

>>42396926
Did you seriously just imply that we should look for ethic examples in the "kill or be killed" (hint: not the case with us) animal kingdom, or did you imply you are as smart as a fish? I'm confused

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>>42390801
>kill your testosterone

Inject it

>make you unable to breed

>implying I can breed trannies

>>42396582
And how do you know that? go back and find us some epic pictures friendo!

>>42396935
>I am trying REALLY HARD to miss the point, I think I'm succeeding

>>42396871
not anon but...

>Do you call your dog he/she or it? Do you interact with him or do you use it?

I have a personal relationship with my pet. additionally, anon is referring to animals as a whole, with no singular identity. otherwise it would probably be "a cow" or "a dog". hell in the way it's put you could imagine "something" as human if you'd like. it's open ended to allow your mind to fill in the blanks.

>Philosophical debates are a tall order, I am a simple man trying to fall asleep

says the man trying to apply terminology normally associated with personhood to the entire kingdom animalia.

>Things don't feel pain (or anything, for that matter)

so some animals are things then?

>The fact that you don't care doesn't make it ethical, it only makes you selfish

would you say you would like to end/limit suffering? if yes, what would you say the lesser of two evils; a complex creature suffering for a short period, or thousands of lesser creatures suffering for the bulk of their existence?

>>42396871
>>42396890
Both terrible posts.
Evolutionary psychology and reasoning isn't the end-all and people on here are stupid for thinking otherwise, it's important but an appeal to nature is refusing to think for yourself.

Calling an entity a thing or "one" is semantics and is dumb, some people call trees/plants he/she so your argument is flawed.
Also would argue the definition of thing being "something that doesn't feel pain".
Fish don't feel pain, and some less developed animals react to stress in similar ways plants do.

>>42396904
Those comics are just making people hate veganism even more.
I will agree the other guy was being a faggot and I don't understand the sense of inbreds stating "W-Well I-I'm about to go eat a piece of meat" like they are sticking it to you or holding a loved one hostage.

Maybe I'm being a dick now, I'm hungry.
What's the difference between Souvlaki and kebabs?
I know I've grown up at cookouts eating mushroom/chicken/squash cook on a wooden spit grilled.
I don't mind you saying dead "animal" but remember that you are just pushing people away vegetarianism/veganism and you are just giving people excuses to be shitty.

>>42396951
>TRT
>trannies
enjoy your prostate cancer and dead bloodline

>>42396956
Literally your only point is that the animals probably prefer not being dead. Though I do wonder if many of them can even conceive of their own existence. I really don't care what they would prefer, I'm doing what's best for me as my ancestors have done for thousands of years and descendants will continue to do long after I'm dead.

>>42396919
>Know what is unnatural? Cars, phones, computers, the internet, vaccines etc.

>USING TOOLS IS UNNATURAL!

no, it is not.

>>42396951
>implying you CAN'T breed trannies

>>42396970
>"something that doesn't feel pain"
That's not what either post said, it was talking about the method of killing being without pain not that the animal being killed doesn't feel it.

>>42396970
Will add I've been thinking about practically cutting all animals from my diet except fish and other animals that have undeveloped brains.
Healthy (if you can get stuff that isn't drenched in mercury) and you are killing something that can only react to stresses, not much different than a tree imo.
Might have a celebratory steak once a year though, if I do this I'll treat it more as a diet and as such a couple cheat meals a year won't kill me.

>>42396974
Incredibly stupid reasoning, evolution doesn't choose the healthiest, happiest, or longest living.
It chooses something that can procreate and live long enough to get to the age where it can procreate.
You are a conscious human being that has desires, goals that are not conducive with just living till you are 20 and fucking a few latinos.
Read up on literature you piece of shit and stop being so close-minded, if somehow pork gave humans cancer humans probably wouldn't evolve an immunity and stray away from it since it would kill them well into their late life.

>Someone*
Things don't feel pain (or anything, for that matter)

Was the part I was pointing out, thought it wasn't really a big point.

>>42397018
>You are a conscious human being that has desires
Like eating delicious flesh.
>fucking a few latinos
Now THAT'S disgusting.

>if somehow pork gave humans cancer humans probably wouldn't evolve an immunity and stray away from it since it would kill them well into their late life
This is not actually true, there have been things we've developed an aversion to because they have a negative effect on our bodies no matter how distant or subtle.

>>42396970
>1/4
I never appealled to nature (I'm not the second quote though)
>2/4
The sooner this becomes a widely accepted definition, the faster we can stop mass killing 56 billion land animals anually. It's a start at least.
>3/4
I don't know, for some people (like me) this is the approach that worked. Shoving undeniable truths at my face, one after another. The more I tried to argue against it, the further down I was digging myself. Before I knew it, I had no arguments left besides taste/preference, habit/tradition and convenience
>4/4
Kebab is minced meat afaik, souvlaki is actual meat bites. They take a big slab of meat (don't remember which part of pig, for chicken it's breast), cut it into rough inch wide cubes and skewer it. Marinade, season, grill.

>>42397047
>Before I knew it, I had no arguments left besides taste/preference, habit/tradition and convenience
Or like, health. Fuck that one though, humans are a planet virus anyway. DEATH TO HUMANS, save the real people of mother earth!

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>>42390841
tfw bulking
>HHHNNNNNGGGGGGG

>>42397062
>Implying plants are unhealthy
>Implying there is a single nutrient a vegan diet is inherently deficient in
Lol

>>42397037
Yes, there have been things, doesn't mean everything.
Just "muh nature muh values" shouldn't make you disregard health science.
Also yes, eating flesh is a desire because fat and and protein is good for the animal.
You know what else is a desire?
Eating a shitton of fatty sugary desserts, doesn't mean it's always good for you.

>>42397047
Obviously I was talking to the other guy about appealing to nature.
You are using a term incorrectly if you are trying to change it's current definition, it's semantics and semantics doesn't make an argument, only causes cognitive dissonance.
I don't see any of these truths undeniable, honestly curious what you are talking about, I would like to hear them and won't be an ass about it.

Kind of disappointed honestly, I live in the midwest and apparently grew up eating souvlaki because no one minces the meat, they just put slabs of meat on it.
Does beef on it disqualify it from being souvlaki?

>>42392011
supporting this message

>>42390801
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
>vegans
>first link is about ovo lacto vegetarians

>>42397079
B-12, calcium, iron, and zinc

>>42390881
Holy Beautiful

>>42397151
B12 is very cheap to supplement and presents no downsides. Whereas taking it from meat presents multiple downsides.
Zinc is an issue for vegans and meat eaters alike and it's not because of the veganism.
Iron isn't really an issue if you eat beans.
Calcium can be gotten from sesame seeds, kale, chickpeas.

>>42391893
90% of pol are /fit

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>be vegan
>have to take b12 supplements so my brain and memory works
>b12 supplement comes from animals
>therefore not a vegan literally
>you're either not a vegan or dont remember being one

>>42397083
>You are using a term incorrectly if you are trying to change it's current definition
"One" means an individual. "Thing" means a thing.
Individuals can be interacted with. Things can be used.
You say "I've got something in my shoe" to talk about a pebble, but "who (not what) is a good boy?" And "looks like someone's hungry!" when talking about your dog.
I am really convinced that I'm using the word correctly.
I looked both words up. According to all dictionaries, someone can only refer to a person and something can only refer to an object or an abstract idea. Animals were nowhere. Since a cow is closer to a human than a rock, cold or peace, I believe "someone" is correct.
> it's semantics and semantics doesn't make an argument, only causes cognitive dissonance.
That's an approach to spreading veganism, to make people realise that it's not something like bacon on their plate, it's the abdomen is someone who didn't want to die
>I don't see any of these truths undeniable, honestly curious what you are talking about, I would like to hear them and won't be an ass about it
Think of any anti vegan argument, like evolution, canines, protein, B12, animals kill each other in the wild all the time etc, and watch a video where an educated and well articulated vegan like UV or Mic the Vegan, maybe even VG talk about it. They deconstruct it word by word and attack the parts and the sun until there's nothing left. VSK comic shorts or yourveganfallacyis.com are the same thing but in easy, bite size format.
You're asking me to tell you the anti vegan arguments. You already know them. Post the most convincing one, I'll do my best to deconstruct it and defeat it.
>Does beef on it disqualify it from being souvlaki?
No. "souvlaki" means "small spit" in Greek. So anything that is cooked that way qualifies. Athenstards have even corrupted the term to mean "any type of meat, including gyro, meatballs or schnitzel, wrapped in pita bread and served with fries and tzatziki"

>>42397151
>B-12, calcium
Soymilk
>iron
Lentils
>zinc
Oats

>>42397238
>B12 is very cheap to supplement and presents no downside

so what you're saying is it's inherently deficient to the vegan diet?

>Zinc is an issue for vegans and meat eaters alike and it's not because of the veganism.

if you eat 2 oysters a day you will not be deficient in zinc.

>Iron isn't really an issue if you eat beans.

at least a 3rd, if not half of your caloric intake would have to come from beans in order to avoid an iron deficiency. to put that into perspective 300 calories worth of mussels more iron (and protein) as 670 calories worth of pinto beans.

>Calcium can be gotten from sesame seeds, kale, chickpeas.

Fair enough, I'll give you that one.

>>42390845
literally came here to post this

>>42397343
>if you eat 2 oysters a day you will not be deficient in zinc.
Neither the mercury

>>42393766
>Byzantine architecture
holy fuck are you actually retarded

>>42390941
>crappy food
it's like you didn't read the fucking op

>>42397389
>>42394052

>>42396556
>needless suffering of animals
but i don't caaaaarrreeee
why don't you understand i just don't care

>>42397403
It's like you didn't read >>42392011 and >>42392027

>>42397259
realistically it's like 30% max
t. /pol/lack

>>42397301
>That's an approach to spreading veganism, to make people realise that it's not something like bacon on their plate, it's the abdomen is someone who didn't want to die

Kind of interesting. I feel like people know bacon is part of a pig's dead corpse, using these words with negative connotation seems more like a marketing thing to me.

Well I'm not a an idiot so I know protein sources are still easy as a vegan, and that getting a complete amino acid profile with B12 is child's play with modern nutrition.
I think I understand what you mean, if you're qualms with veganism/vegetarianism involves the lack of nutrients and such you're an idiot.
I know full well the extent of the nervous system of a mussel, there's no really undeniable fact that can be told to me when I know full well what I'm doing and have no remorse for it as it is barely more than a plant to me.

>>42397343
I don't think anyone who argues like this actually has a foot in the race, they are shitposting or retarded.
If you live in the first world there's no reason to hate on a diet because it requires a couple cheap supplements, because those themselves are part of the diet now.

>>42396582
yes the gayness doesn't cause veganism; the vegans just happen to also be homosexuals lmao

>>42397421
Mussels are ok to eat by me. I personally don't like them, but I don't think they're *wrong* to eat. If that was your argument, I won't attack it.

>>42397321
>Soymilk

you'd have to drink a little under 1000 calories worth of soymilk a day to get only half of your daily calcium intake. additionally, soymilk has no B-12, and has been shown to stunt testosterone production.

>Lentils

so two serving gives you about 70 percent of your daily iron. but it's fairly high in caloric content when you compare it to meat alternatives, though they are a good source of potassium as well.

>Oats
so you need two cups of oats (approximately) to get about 80 percent of your daily zinc.

so in this scenario, you're drinking 1000 calories worth of soymilk, eating 530 calories worth of lentils, and eating an additional 1200 calories worth of oats just to avoid deficiencies in calcium, iron, and zinc, and you're STILL B-12 deficient.

>>42397376
>Neither the mercury

oysters have about the same mercury content as seaweed. and actually, they have a smaller mercury content than kale and other lettuces from certain regions of the US.

>>42397421
>If you live in the first world there's no reason to hate on a diet because it requires a couple cheap supplements, because those themselves are part of the diet now.

I wasn't hating on a diet. the statement made was from >>42397079
>Implying there is a single nutrient a vegan diet is inherently deficient in

I wasn't saying that a vegan diet was bad, or that those things couldn't be overcome with supplements. what I was saying is that the vegan diet is inherently deficient in some things. simple as that.

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>>42397441
Yeah eating mussels isn't really an argument of mine.
My only argument would be that either you should have priority of living things based on complexity of nervous systems (Humans>mammals>reptiles>birds>fish>insects>mussels>jellyfish>bacteria/plants) or they are all equal which means they are all fair game. I don't believe in this second argument, I understand most vegans would not eat plants if we had a diet available that didn't kill anything, but obviously something needs to die so might as well be yeast and plants.

For me it just depends on where your cut off point is, I'm assuming some people would eat plants but refuse to eat yeast.
Veganism seems to be about the minimization of pain, people who just want to be angry at things act like a vegan needing to do one thing that might cause an animal pain (like animals dying during plant harvest) makes them non-vegan which is dumb.
Obviously I'm not vegan, all I can do is look at my capacity for compassion and it doesn't spread past fish.

>>42397445
Just supplement zinc my dude, it's fucking cheap.

>>42397494
Oh carry on then.
There are some things that need a lot of careful planning if they don't plan to supplement.

>>42397421
>couple cheap supplements, because those themselves are part of the diet now.

while this is semantics on an exceptional level, i'd like to point out that supplements considered part of your diet. they're supplemental TO your diet.

>>42397445
>a little under 1000 calories worth of soymilk a day to get only half of your daily calcium intake
Soymilk has literally the same calcium as cow milk, it's made that way on purpose. So what you're doing right now is claiming that cow milk is a poor source of calcium.
>additionally, soymilk has no B-12
That is simply wrong. Virtually all brands are fortified, I don't know one that isn't.
Oh, nooch has also B12. Tons. A tablespoon has like 1.5 times your RDA.
>and has been shown to stunt testosterone production.
That is literally a lie. Source or fuck off.
>530 calories of lentils is a lot
Lol, you should be eating way more than that anyway. Lentils (all pulses) are great sources of vitamins, minerals, fiber and protein. They should be the majority of the caloric intake of anyone serious about health and fitness
>Implying ONLY OATS have zinc
200 g lentils and 100 g oats cover your RDA, try again

>>42391893
>vegans are pot smoking cucks
I mean you'd have to be high to eat vegetables for every meal

>>42397514
I guess but I would hardly think it's worth pointing out, it's like saying "veganism is a deficient diet *unless you buy a few really cheap supplements".
Though education is important, I know a guy who became vegan without educating himself and didn't know why he was depressed.
The madman didn't have B12 for an entire year.

>>42397512
>Oh carry on then.
well I think troll vegan anon is gone now... so I'm not really sure what to do with my hands.

>There are some things that need a lot of careful planning if they don't plan to supplement.

I honestly don't know why some people don't take the supplements. like I get it when it happens to people who kind of dive into the diet and don't do some research, but there are people who literally refuse to supplement their diet, even when it's clear that they aren't doing so good.

>>42397494
>what I was saying is that the vegan diet is inherently deficient in some things
You still haven't named those "things". Unless you are >>42397151, in which case I've answered
>>42397512
>My only argument would be that either you should have priority of living things based on complexity of nervous systems (Humans>mammals>reptiles>birds>fish>(I guess a little sentient)>insects>(most likely not sentient at all)>mussels>jellyfish>(not sentient)>bacteria/plants) or they are all equal which means they are all fair game.
Let me put it this way. Even if I agree with that hierarchy (which I do), why should I eat anything sentient, if I don't need it?

>>42397552
It's dumb, supplements are so cheap and are 0 calorie generally, the only reason not to take them is because you want to be "natural".
Zinc deficient?
You don't even have to eat anything different or consume mercury, just pay 10 or so dollars for a year supply.
I'm an omnivore and I still use the fuck out of nutritional yeast, tastes good and I get a shitton of B vitamins.

>>42397552
>troll vegan
You've really convinced yourself, haven't you?

Why do we have 2 threads about veganism?
Do we reach the the third stage of truth?
Does vegan Christiany to Ancient roman?

>>42397519
>Soymilk has literally the same calcium as cow milk

my bad, I was rolling off of the generic soymilk that google brings up when you search it. when I changed it to silk and the nutritional data changes completely. which kind of throws off my whole argument, so i give you that.

>That is literally a lie. Source or fuck off.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17416779

yeah, no it isn't.


not trying to get the last word in, just figured you should be informed.

>>42397583
>Even if I agree with that hierarchy (which I do), why should I eat anything sentient, if I don't need it?
No I completely understand this reasoning.
My thoughts are that sentience in itself isn't important, there needs to be a complex nervous system for me to care.
Me being afraid of eating a mussel would be hypocritical because I don't care about the mussel more than I do a plant, sentience itself isn't a factor for me, the complexity of the nervous system and whether it was able to observe the universe in any meaningful way is what I personally care about.

This is coming from someone who doesn't think anything inherently has worth or meaning to it so believe me when I say this is entirely opinion.

Also that guy was talking about the vegan diet without supplements or fortification.
Semantics but that is what he was meaning, the vegan diet does require SOME fortification or supplementation, not much and it shouldn't dissuade people from doing it but it's there.

>>42396507
"too much" = more than any human would anyway even if in full bulk mode.

>>42397625
Very, very poorly designed study. No control group (this one alone discredits the study completely bit I'll continue just for fun), tiny sample size (12), no mention of activity level or BMI before, during and after the study.
Also, maybe I missed it, but it didn't say anything about FREE testosterone. Only the bioavailable form matters, not the total serum concentration.
Also, soy protein powder and soy milk aren't the same thing. Soy milk is ground up dry soybeans and water. Soy protein isolate is a highly processed product. It's like using bacon as an argument on why chicken breast is bad. Shiggy diggy.

But if you have more studies, preferably better ones, I'm all ears.

>>42397276
No, it comes from bacteria.... Which are not animals.

>muh animals

I like cats, dogs, ferrets seem like pretty alright guys too even though I've never had one, but stop counting right there. I hate the vast majority of animals and they seem to hate humans too. If given the choice and they happen to be delicious, I'll eat them and no amount of gory videos will change my mind.

>>42390801
nigga I'm a vegan and I could literally fuck 24 hours straight if I had the time.

>>42393633
retard doesn't know what bbq is

>>42397343
>so what you're saying is it's inherently deficient to the vegan diet?
Yes. You can't get b12 from a vegan diet. Well you might be able but there's not enough studies to show the bioavailability of b12 from certain seaweeds. It's better to just stick to a supplement.
Plus most seaweeds contain high levels of mercury.
>if you eat 2 oysters a day you will not be deficient in zinc.
Same if you eat sesame seeds, pumpkin seeds, raisins.
Minus the mercury. Also easier to eat.
>at least a 3rd, if not half of your caloric intake would have to come from beans in order to avoid an iron deficiency
That's if you don't eat other foods that have iron. 100g of oats for example have 25% of iron requirements. You can easily eat get your daily requirements from a vegan diet.
> to put that into perspective 300 calories worth of mussels more iron (and protein) as 670 calories worth of pinto beans.
You forgot the mercury.

The only useful addition to a vegan diet would be sea food if we didn't fuck our environment as bad as we did.
Sure even most vegetables, legumes, fruits are contaminated with chemicals but then again you have to do best with what you've got.

has anyone trying to disprove the vegan diet actually tried it?

>>42391356
Have you never fucking eaten American BBQ before?

The meat isn't charred, it's smoked you dumb fuck. The blackness you're seeing is caramelized rub, not burnt meat. The meat is cooked perfectly fine. In fact, smoking is one of the best ways to uniformly cook a piece of meat because it's so slowly done.

What's wrong with the thin cuts? Just makes it easier to cut chunks off by knife or fork, or throw them into sammiches.

Who gives a fuck about sides? Good smoked brisket, ribs, or pulled pork is all the food you need faggot.

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>>42394751

Mostly because vegans fall into fads like soy and flax seeds, which are highly estrogenic. If you stick to staples like rice, broccoli, green peas etc it's great for your hormones and overall health. There are studies that litterally contradict your results (more test in vegans), mainly in cultures where it has been adopted a long time ago instead of faggy hipsters.

>>42398138
Can you link me a study where a diet high in soy over a period of time was linked to higher estrogen levels?

>>42396582
>correlation vs causation
So? He never claimed one caused the other. Just that vegans also happen to be flaming fucking faggots, which is true.

>>42398173

No but feel free to test it on yourself. There are easy to find studies that show the exorbitant amount of phytoestrogens in soy and flax compared to other food (like 10 000 as much). It is used as population control, it's in every fast food (soybean oil) and processed food. That's why there are no published results on this.

>>42390801
>Daily reminder that veganism will kill your testosterone and make you unable to breed.
Goddamn right, OP.

Just as bad:
Veganism RUINS the health of top athletes:
https://blog.bulletproof.com/carl-lewis-vegan/

>>42398401
"local veganism ruins everything"
More at 9

>>42398401
>>42398709
LOL at the comments section

>>42396295
>he thinks he's a real man for going down to the grocery store and putting some pre-packaged meat in a shopping cart

Woah dude. That's so masculine. Physical fitness, leadership, practical skills? Nah man, don't need any of those, just gotta go to the grocery and buy my masculinity.

>>42396959
>suffering for the bulk of their existence
like confinement disfigurement and shackles?

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>>42390841
I'm scared to view this. What is it?

>>42396703

98-99% of meat comes from factory farms.

Even the remaining percentage that aren't factory farmed use the same slaughterhouses as those that are factory farmed.

The idea of happy cows roaming in a pasture is a fantasy, most animals spend their lives in a tiny ass crate and never see the sun

>>42399056
My statement had nothing to do with the lazy greedy reality. I simply said they do not NEED to be abused to grow and be slaughtered.

>>42391312
Kekerooo

>>42390801
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
>66 sample size
>study occurred in 1978

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/
"However, in contrast to the effects in rodents, a recently published meta-analysis of the clinical research found that there were no effects of soyfoods or isoflavone supplements on total or free testosterone levels or levels of dihydrotestosterone—the biologically active metabolite of testosterone"

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
"Endurance performance time was higher for six and lower for two after the mixed diet compared with the vegetarian diet. This was not significant, however. In conclusion, 6 wk on a lacto-ovo vegetarian diet caused a minor decrease in total testosterone and no significant changes in physical performance in male endurance athletes compared with 6 wk on a mixed, meatrich diet."

>http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
"These subjects hormonal milieu was related to specific dietary constituents, possibly leading to a decreased plasma concentration of androgen and estrogen in vegetarians. Implications include the possible modification of prostate cancer risk through dietary intervention."

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
"These results show that diet modification can induce hormonal changes, If similar changes occur in patients with breast and/or prostatic cancer, diet modification may be of benefit in these patients with tumors known to be hormonally dependent."

>http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49
This study as nothing to do with vegan or vegetarian diet.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
>a study encompassing 1 man
not relevant due to incredibly small sample size.

>>42390801
It looks like a high elf from oblivion.

>>42396798
that statement doesn't apply here you pseud.

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>>42391229
Are you fucking stupid? Look at the dad then look at a native african. Of course that dude has white, or some other race in him. Most blacks whose ancestors left africa do. THAT'S WHY HUMANS OUTSIDE OF AFRICA DON'T LOOK LIKE AFRICAN ANYMORE.

Pic related, tell me what african "tribe" you think she's apart of.

>>42396582
>correlation vs causation
stop saying this, or go back to rddit.

>>42396534
Is-is that a twig?

>>42396919
>Please articulate the argument in P => Q form
This isn't a technical subject class on Logic, you autistic fuck.
If you faggots would get out and actually talk to people you wouldn't be so fucking autistic.
There's your causation you pseudo intellectual redditting faggotron.

this is /fit/ we can always take a dick up our ass to keep our testerone levels normal

>>42399144
>>42390801

Basically, none of your sources indicated that veganism is linked to the "killing of testosterone" nor does it lead to the inability to breed. None of the sources ever mentioned lower sperm count.

Many of the sources were based on soy specifically, not veganism in general.

They only say that free testosterone is lowered, but only by insignificant amounts.

Also they state that estrogen is lowered, leading to potential treatment and prevention of breast and prostate cancer.

Basically, you are an idiot too stupid to actually back up your silly claims.

>>42392082
>guess hospitals are literal deathtraps
>>42395124
>You are more likely to get sick from spending excessive time in a hospital than almost anywhere else.

These posts are dumb for two reasons:
1) You are messed up, hence why you went to the hospital. Screw the wifi, when you are dying of cancer!
2) More likely to get sick? You are sick and the patients cause the hospital to be a sick place. No patients, then it is as clean as any other empty building.

>>42399358
>More likely to get sick? You are sick and the patients cause the hospital to be a sick place. No patients, then it is as clean as any other empty building.
Obviously I meant if you weren't already sick retard. And also obviously I meant you were more likely to get sick in a hospital because of all the sick people in it. Bad day for you?

>>42398938
just a guy prepping meat, sausages, and other side dishes

>>42390841
this video makes me salivate

>>42397079
>>42397343

B T F O
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F
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>>42396377
>I AM SILLY

>>42399064

This is the same sort of person that argues against socialism because it didn't work as a system in a couple of awful implementations of communism in a few countries.

The irony is literally palpable.

Just admit that you only care about yourself and argue from that position, otherwise no one will take you seriously.

>>42400824
But socialism has failed in almost every country it's been tried in. Even the Scandinavian countries are starting to crumble from it, though we know why... that is.

I'm not taking back what I said in that post, it's true. But like I said in another post I really don't give a fuck. They're tasty and beneficial for me, I really don't care that they die for my gains, I'm doing what's best for me and if a couple of animals die for it that's fine.

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>>42397723
>imprisoning bacteria in a giant vat to mass produce B12 so I don't die on my deficient diet
>taking a product orally or injecting it that must be grown from bacteria in a vat is natural and healthy

hmm something doesn't add up

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where did all the vegan niggers go?

>>42390801
From your own article:

However, in contrast to the effects in rodents, a recently published meta-analysis of the clinical research found that there were no effects of soyfoods or isoflavone supplements on total or free testosterone levels or levels of dihydrotestosterone—the biologically active metabolite of testosterone [225]. Similarly, the clinical evidence shows that soy does not raise estrogen levels (see reference for review) [226]. In the case report described above, the individual in question did have dramatically elevated estrogen levels (5- to 10-fold above average reference values) [224]. But this increase was in response to the consumption of 3 quarts (~12 cups) of soymilk daily, an amount (assuming it is made using the whole soybean) that would be expected to provide approximately 300 mg isoflavones (the authors suggested 361 mg) [12], an intake roughly 9 times that of the typical Japanese [12]. Clearly, excessive intake of even nutritional desirable foods can produce untoward effects. Clinical studies have shown that isoflavone intakes as high as 150 mg/day-which is still 4 times higher than typical Japanese intake—are without effect on estrogen levels [226].

>>42390801
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
This study is about meat eaters vs. egg and milk users.
Not about vegans.
>Milk is bad for your hormones
Yeah no shit.
OP confirmed for retard

>>42390801
>http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
>vegetarian

>>42390801
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
>vegetarian

>http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49
>Nothing in here about vegans

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
>1 case study

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yessss the vegan niggers are back

Not a single study in OP proves that soy is bad for your testosterone levels. In fact this article lists tons of benefits.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

>>42391356
>Eating pork shoulder without spices or sauce
>Doesn't know what smoking meat is

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>>42397259
Yeah, you can clearly see those alpha men all completed SS and are doing on the road to a 5 plates deadlift

Right wingers do lack self awareness

>>42392717
And yet they're unhealthy as fuck and don't grow old.

>>42390841
Oh god I need this protein in my life

>>42394052
Yes, they had already stolen their architecture from the Persians. Also nothing posted above looks remotely byzantine.

>>42390801
i'm already unable to breed desu

>>42391939
That picture is pretty bad and the only states that really match up are California and a few northern states

>>42401261
the only thing those map ever correlate with is the population density

>>42397062
Meat, dairy and eggs are unhealthier than whole plant food, anon.

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>>42401266
wrong

>>42401266
If you eat them in grotesque amounts, sure.

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>>42390801
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
Seems like a poorly controlled study.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
This study isn't even about veganism.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
This is a poorly designed study because they're trying to measure 2 things at once, as a result of this you can't determine whether the changes are due to a vegetarian diet or the dexamethasone.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Case reports aren't good evidence.

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i need more raging vegan niggers plox

>>42390801
>lower sperm count = low testosterone
>a study of one single idiot shows anything
>correlation is causation


We got ourselves a pro cherry picker here people

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>>42401384
>MOAR

Didn't vegetarianism start out as a self-denial practice? Somehow it turned into a modern cult

>>42401434
I have not looked into this at all but I bet the modern cult was founded by a jew.

>>42390801
>We know the gender.
LMAO how do you know if the baby can't even tell you yet, bigot? No wonder this gentleman left her.

>>42401773
>Someone typed this and thought it was so meta and funny

>>42401263
You fucking idiot.
Those maps are per capita, not population density
Fucking idiots see one xkcd comic and think they're so smart to shout "hurr correlation does not mean causation"
You're worse than the average low IQ idiot
You're a low IQ idiot who thinks he's not

>>42390801
That first study have very low participants and don't even mention vegans.
The second study is promoting soybeans as healthy and saying we don't eat enough
"In fact, even vegetarian legume intake is less than optimal [261]. Thus, both vegetarians and nonvegetarians would benefit by including more of these fiber- and protein-rich foods in diets. [257]."
"With the exception of allergic reactions to soy protein, which is relatively rare among adults, there is little basis for concern that excessive amounts of soy will lead to untoward effects in healthy individuals [262]. "
After that it stopped reading because it was very clear you didn't even ready the studies you posted and probably just googled "VEGANS TESTOSTERONE STUDY" and copy and pasted.

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>>42391356
i'm anglo and with tastes like that you're a fucking gook

>>42391939
murder and ice cream consumption have a perfect fit
Really makes you think

>>42391312

Kek

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>>42390801

>>42403014
So I was right, Goth halfbreed
And no, not a gook
Read >>42396501 and learn to cook

>>42391356
man just admit you've never been invited to a BBQ

t. Brit

>>42403279
Lol, another Goth halfbreed, 2/2 so far
Read >>42396501 and learn to cook

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>>42390801
LMAO

>>42401220
>that GOMAD squatting guy

>>42390956
I hate how much I like watching his channel. He's over-the-top with everything and does so many unnecessary steps and tricks but that food always looks amazing

>>42403593
WOW! A handsome actor has a handsome grown man son!

A different actor has an awkward looking TEENAGE son! Incredible!

>>42401289
>meta analysis at the top

Picture fucking discarded

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>>42390801
Daily reminder that /pol/cucks have their own containment board. Shitty bait is shit.

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Can soy increase estrogen?

>>42396582
Most vegans are faggots? What is your point here ledditor

>>42397436
actually i think it does. If you are a fag you are much more likely to be a vegan by choice. Its not like they were born vegan they became vegan because of their gayness.

>>42401813
>someone got this triggered

>>42394679
Your filename says ham, you prion infested limey.

>>42393296
Redpilling people to not do it, you fucking stupid faggot.

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>>42390801
Delete this

>>42392405
She's Polish, she's a Nigger too

>>42406960
Slavs are white niggers ? like South and SE asians to chinks?

>>42407037
Notice how Slavs look off? It's their Mongolian blood or something. They look and act like subhumans.

>>42390801
Am I supposed to care? I'm not exactly planning to impregnate my boyfriend.

>>42407090
>can't M-PREG
phaggot

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>>42407065

You are one to talk faggot, only in your parts do you find homosexuals and feminists. Maybe it's something wrong in your genes? Who knows lol but one thing for sure, is that you and your culture are weak.

>>42391893
>vegans are blackposter cucks
>people who are anti-/pol/ are unironically cucks
the memes just keep coming true

>>42391939
That's really just for liberal states in general. There are similar maps for abortion, feminist marches, people who are pro-refugee, and all that other cancer that is killing society.