Yes I read the wiki. I did not understand this part fully. Just

>Can you lose significant weight (10-15 lb) while still building muscles in a realistic time frame?

if you're a newbie, you can do both simultaneously in a realistic time frame

after the first few lbs of muscle, you dont build any more while losing weight

the reasons behind people [fat powerlfiters] not doing moderate-high deficits is :

>hard
>low energy
>possibly lose muscle if you don't lift/eat enough protein

What do you call a realistic time frame? When I first started I dropped 10 kg. I can't tell you how much muscle i gained but my stats went from probably 40 kg bench to 100 kg bench, 50 kg squat to 130kg. It's possible.

>>42388789
ok thanks
>>42388799
>What do you call a realistic time frame?
I used scoobys diet planner thing and I remember getting a result for 20% defecate something like -15-20 pounds in a year, and I did the same with a maintain-10% and got like -2 pounds a year and it made me think, thats even the point?

>>42388789
What counts as a 'newbie' First 6 months? First year?

Am almost at my 1 year anniversary, lost 17 lbs while keeping my LBM at 141 lbs over the last 12 weeks. So building muscle? Not sure if I built anything. But I sure as hell didn't lose anything.