God tier supplement right here >cheap af and safe >studies

>>42259350
kept giving me thyroid issues.

How can a pill make me more relaxed and reduced stress?

This honestly sounds like some bro science shit

On a scale from loo to D E D I C A T E D, where do the producers of this product shit?

>>42259404
Because it reduces cortisol the stress hormone. Actual research on this believe it or not

>>42259396
How do you know what a thyroid issue even feels like? I've never had any problems so I'm curious

>>42259350
Does the world anti doping agency allow this?

>>42259446
If that's true then why isn't everyone in the world taking it?

>>42259404
Heres one of the studies

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23439798

You get a test increase too by reducing cortisol because high cortisol usually goes hand in hand with low test

>>42259482
Motherfucker are you just trolling or something?

Ok then if lifting and eating a clean diet is so great why isn't everyone in the world doing it?

>>42259350
Tongkat ali is better desu

>>42259544
Are you comparing hours of hard work every day to a miracle drug that takes 3 seconds to take?

Ashwaganda is some good stuff. It's a common ingredient in test boosters like P6, and Nugenix Maxx. Does help with mood support and mental focus.

>>42259556
Good to take both, here's a good study on tongkat

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3669033/

>>42259587
You are really annoying

>>42259462
began being really tired through the day. even tho i drank my usually coffee + pre workout.
neck and my mouth kept getting swollen.

>>42259587
Just another scrawny or fat fuck dont mind him.

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Fuck this
Phenibut is godmode

>>42259350
This is just a meme right? If I buy this and feel nothing I'm going to be pissed.

>>42259749
thank you anon, I hope you have a nice day

Will l arginine and pycnogenol make my dik work

It gives you energy?

>drop in cortisol

How is my IF gonna work if I don't get into ketogenisis

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>>42259587
>a miracle drug
Its not going to make you high. Try Passion Flower as well. It helps alot with relaxation. And it looks cool as fuck. Valerian Root and Kava are great as well.

https://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/passionflower

>>42259587
Can I know some background info about you? I wanna understand how a human brain, having gone through thousands and thousands of years of evolution ends up sputtering some dumb shit like this out.

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>>42259350
Great indeed. Japan should take this to avoid their suicide crisis.

>>42260034
You want to get harder erections but cant get access to or dont want Cialis or Viagra, right anon? I've been there, let me guide you.
Long term:
-Cardio
-Kegels
I recommend doing both of these 2-3 times per week.
Short term:
-L-Arginine (make sure you get a good quality one, one brand got my dick rock hard the other one did nothing)
-Arctic Root (aka roseroot)
If you take these for a long time the results will get even better.

After 2 weeks of doing this (assuming you actually follow through with it) your dick will be diamonds. Also stop watching porn, it's bad for your pshyche and can also give you ED. But remember to still jack off if you arent having sex, just dont overdo it, once a day is golden.

>>42259350

lmao do you all shop at sprouts?

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>>42259404
GO FUCK YOURSELF CUNT !

>>42260301
I do.

So what's the deal? Does this stuff actually work? Currently I've found the only supps with noticeable affects that are well researched are zinc, magnesium oil, and creatine.

>>42260413
Are you an indian shill trying to make money of off selling supplements?

>>42260523
I've had good luck with cissus for tendonitis.

>>42259587
I'm lucky if I remember my multi vitamin once a week.

Just switched to this from panax ginseng. Feel a bit more anxious than normal but it's only been two days

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>>42259350
What is placebo effect?

It does affect your thyroid and hormones so do your research before taking it long with SSRI's.

just letting you all know you gotta cycle this shit.

I only use it when I am cutting. Using it everyday will just fuck your hormones up brehs.

>>42261101
What dosage do you take? Capsules I found were 1000 mg

>>42260753
Go read the study faggot

bump because this looks like it's becoming a general supplement thread

Do you also take fat burner pills because there has been a study "proving" it?
This board is full of retards these days, wow

>>42261153
no u

>>42259462
I supposedly have a thyroid issue but with or without the medicine I feel no difference at all

im starting to think I fell for a meme

>>42261267
kys this is the type of mindset that no fun having niggers have

My psychiatrist put me on this to ween off my bipolar meds and I'm not noticing a difference. It's been 4 weeks, starting to think it's a meme.

>>42261153
>good goyim, hand over your shekels for this plant root
>we have a (((double blind))) study

>>42261332
are you an actual jew?

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>>42261385
nop

>>42261422
you sure think and talk like one.

>>42260274
thank you senpai

Fish oil and letcithin. All you need plus maybe a non-acidic vitamin C pill

>>42259419
designated?

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>>42259404
>how can a pill, which chemically affects my body, have an effect on my emotions, which are chemicals in my brain?
are you retarded?

>>42260105
He's not wrong though, you are. He's right. If getting lean and fit was as easy as swallowing a pill, everyone would be doing it, so he has every right to be skeptical about buying some stupid herbal supplement. Being skeptical is a prudent thing. It's a wise decision, because you could be ripped off. So, sir, I contend that you are the stupid one because you're so willing to believe anything you read on 4chan.

>>42261332
dr goldberg would never shill for a plant you idiot.

Lmao yeah bro, a fucking herbal pill really redues stress and increases energy. Truly ground breaking stuff. This could change the industry forever! Give me a fucking break.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28207892

>Triethylene glycol, an active component of Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) leaves, is responsible for sleep induction.

So it supposedly gives you energy AND helps you sleep. Has anybody who has taken it experienced either?

>>42261994
lurk moar

>>42262308
An herb called cannabis does wonders for stress. An herb called coffee is great for energy.

>>42260753
>The study
>What is an actual placebo

>>42262138
>If whey makes you gain muscles then why doesn't everyone drink like 4 scoops everyday and become like arnold hahaha

>>42259556

Tongkat ali is awesome, but it's making me almost too aggressive.

>>42262932
An herb called tobacco causes cancer

See I can be a moron too

>>42263108
Proving my point further. There are many plants that have power effects in the body.

>>42263108

You just proved his point even more, jfc.

>>42259350

OP, does this make you sleepy, so it would be better to take it before going to bed or def. not before lifting?

>>42262932
Neither of those are herbs tho..

>>42259404
Goddamn you must be dumb, ever taken Xanax?

>>42259350
>ashwagandha
>https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/
Hmm... Examine actually seems to support OP's claims. Might give it a go. Pretty cheap.

>>42263119
>>42263136
How does that prove your point? None of those three are memes, their effects are well known and have been for hundreds of years backed by hard evidence. The only point you proved is that you're a dumbshit

This thread has proven /fit/ is flat out dumb and nobody should take advice posted here from anybody.

>>42263195
They sure as fuck are. Herbs in this context means plants.

>>42263225
Do you have any advice to offer me?

>>42263200
You're an idiot. You claimed there was no way something herbal could be effective. It's painfully obvious that MANY herbs have mild to strong effects.

>>42263273
No you're an idiot for comparing two well known substances that have been stuided to death and have mountains of evidence to support it to a literal meme pill. But hey coffees a herb, so surely they all work then! This is the reason the market is flooded with these ridiculous "herbal" pills in the first place.

>>42263360
I don't know if this works. You don't either. There are hundreds of plants that do significant things in the body. The fact that it is a plant is no reason to dismiss it.

>>42263225
starting with you

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>>42259350
Supplements are nice but you don't need them.
>good diet is more important and necessary.

>no, goy, a simple plant has no power over the human body, if you want something that works go see my friend dr. Rothberg who can prescribe you some sheklnol
>don't worry about the price, it's manufactured so it obviously works

I'll try it out OP, amazon reviews make it sound pretty great. Should go along nicely with my recent meditation practice in controlling my anxiety and stress levels

>>42263653
Not one person here has claimed antidepressants work, go fuck yourself

I don't know why people are so quick to put this stuff down when they know fuckall about it. Sure there are tons of plant based "herbal supplements" that are shilled to the weak minded, but there are obviously plants that affect our bodies. There are plants that make us high/low, give us energy, supply vital micronutrients, poison the shit out of us, make us throw up, etc. So why can't there be a plant that makes us jacked?

>>42263742
Look faggot, there have been a lot of people in this world, that are much smarter than you'll ever be, that have studied every plant known to men and continue to do so today. And I'm going to tell you this now; without a doubt, 99% of herbal supps are absolute bullshit. If you weren't such a weed smoking dudebro faggot you would accept this and move on with your life.

>>42259350
>Himalaya
Kaise ho bhai

>>42263742
Because this is blatantly a shill thread.

>>42263801
Yet another faggot that doesn't know how to read the study posted in this thread.
The whole point of being skeptical is to wait for scientific evidence before making a conclusion, and here we have a group of people taking this herb and another group taking placebo and the herb group had serum cortisol levels drop 30% on average.
I mean what the fuck else are you looking for?

>>42263801

Great job on completely missing the point, retard. I never said 99% of them aren't bullshit. I was asking why can't there be a plant that has the ability to affect our cortisol levels when there are plants that affect other hormone levels. Since you're such an expert though, please tell me exactly how you know this shit doesn't work, pref. with scientific evidence. Also, I do not smoke the devils lettuce.


>there have been a lot of people in this world, that are much smarter than you'll ever be

Absolutely, but you're not one of them.

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Just got some and took a pill, how long until I see results? The studies on examine.com all measured after 8 weeks

So I take all kinds of shit. Arginine, Citrulline, 5 HTP, Lonkat Ali, Horny Goat Weed, Maca, etc. etc.

There is a noticeable difference in my sex drive and erections when I'm taking Ashwagandha, and when I'm not while taking the other stuff. I have anxiety issues that can sometimes lead to me not getting hard in the bedroom. It's not caused by porn or anything, just straight anxiety. When I take Ashwa, I'm a fucking monster in the bedroom. Rock hard every time. And I think it's because I'm just not anxious at all. It's amazing.

Ashwagandha is the fucking shit. Just make sure you get the KSM-66 version.

>>42259350
Where can I get this?

>>42264304
Who is this American blessed beauty

Whats the right dose?

>>42264712
I don't know, but she motivates me to be a better man, so I can be a better American

>>42264631

I hope you're not lying to me brah, sounds too good to be true.

>>42264756
It's a herb, if course he's lying

Wouldn't be surprised if he lives in India or some shithole in afica

>>42264750
lmfao cringy loser

>>42264712
>>42264304

Bump for her bumps. Who?

>>42264781

here's your (You)

>>42259350
cheers op, i'm going to look into it.

>>42264879
Be a better American with me, it's what she would want, for all of us ;)

>>42261983
just eat fish and chocolate sometimes faggot all you need

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>take daily magnesium supplement
>look it up on Labdoor out of interest
>"this product contained a concerning amount of arsenic"

>>42259587
> hours of hard work every day
literally what
nigger it takes 45mins every second day at most
you're probably a fat fuck who comes here to complain about his genetics

>>42260274
What brand l arginine?

>>42264712
Beth Lily, she's British

>>42265356
British women are ugl-

>look this shit up on examine.com
>actually looks legit

Seems like it could be unhealthy though, what happens if I stop taking it?

>>42259975
Got amazing social gains the first week I took it.

Now I get nothing.
> tried 250mg tuesday - no effect
> tried 1000mg friday - no effect
I only take it two days a week

>>42260274
>L-Arginine
It's a precursor to nitric oxide, so it's helpfulness is rate-limited with nitrates/nitrites.

>>42265347
I have this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EJTZH0Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

..taking enough so that 3 scoops of whey tastes slightly basic.

>>42260034
Epimedium, and peppermint oil (diffused).

>>42263716
They do though...

>>42259975
>>42265508
Is there literally any downside to pheibut?

>>42259587
>the simplicity of controlling calories, maintaining 5-20%BF

>>42259350
Anyone else completely against drugs/supplements?

I think we should only eat clean food and drink only water, and get adequate sleep and exercise daily. That alone will fix 99% of health problems. Everything else is a scam.

>>42263619
>>42266270
>bunch of preparation and gorging quinoa and buckwheat just to get 90% of your micro needs (plus greens)
>a multivitamin
The answer is obvious. There are even benefits to reducing volume.

6-9 scoops up to 180lbs., flaxseed oil, and a few other ingredients (9 tall glasses of water.. OJ) -- after that, it's herbs and other fun things.

>>42265902
>KSM-66
It's addictive and has bad withdrawls so you should only take it a couple days a week at most

>>42259350
It's pretty great, seemed to have helped with my low t, although havent done bloodwork yet. I take 1000mg a day with 10% withanolide for two months now, make sure you don't get some weak ass 1% shit brehs.

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>>42266270
I created pic related so I have been thinking whether or not I should remove foreign substances, even in supplement form, from my diet too.

But some things are better with industry. You know, in winters in the past we would have had less vitamin D in our bodies because of less sun. Now one could supplement it.

Some substances also are cheaper and more easy to consume when put in pill form, like garlic oil. Saves a lot of time for zero negatives.

and to foreign substances still, the risk kinda does increase that they may not be compatible with your biology. But at the same time, some research around your own race is done with these foreign substances. Though not reliably I guess as most are still struggling to identify things like jewtube link related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCQmfRMwHfA

which encompasses a lot of the lore that I Also have in my chart.

And some things now are different too you know, we may need more aromatase inhibitors since we are living in a more estrogenic environment thanks to modern industry.

>>42265314
>45mins every second day at most
Hey i hope your third week of SS goes well!
I need 35 mins just to do squats
15mins to get to gym and change
15mins after session im home again.
All in all about 8h/W.
Get real buddy the guy has a point.
Raising test by 35% just by chugging some herb seems too good to be true.

>>42262138
Seconded. He has a right to be skeptical but he's also wrong because he should do some research on google scholar instead of getting ass blasted by obviously biased opinions.

>>42259350
15% increase in test aint going to do shit for your muscles or strength.

You need a big increase for it to matter.

>>42264651
https://au.iherb.com/c/Ashwagandha?gclid=EAIaIQobChMItP2zkLqk1QIVlCu9Ch0o3QEQEAAYASAAEgJ-uvD_BwE

I buy all my skin care products from this website, haven't tried their range of supplements though. Quick delivery (I live in Australia) and it usually takes around 3-4 business days without any shipping fees (over a certain amount). The pricing is pretty good compared to other sites.

>>42262932
>an herb
>an
hory shet triggered

>>42266667
What a retarded thing to say, it adds up obviously.

>>42266707
>What a retarded thing to say, it adds up obviously.
it does not. First i want to see the study, as it could be sponsored by the company who are fidling with the numbers to make it look better.
Second, a 15% increase in test does not equal to 15% increase in muscle/strength gain. Not even half of that, it may not affect it at all. because its within normal range.

>>42266690
Its because americans think its a silent h

>>42259350
doesn't this shit have a lot of heavy metals in it?

>>42266667
~100ng increase in test for 15 cents a day, hmm better pass that up because some faggot on a Cambodian snorkeling enthusiasts forum thinks it doesn't matter

>>42264631

Dies it matter if you take it in the morning or night? I'm seeing some people report it makes them drowsy, so I wouldn't want to try it in the morning if so.

>>42266270

Some of these herbs are not a scam and do work, but I still think your point stands. If you eat well and drink only water/juice, get good sleep and exercise, then why are you supplementing? It's kind of like cheating.

>>42268122
I see it more like paying for shit you don't need. If you keep in good physical and mental health you'll already be running at optimal capacity, you won't need anything to focus your mind or keep you awake or anything like that

>>42268258

My pre-workout stack definitely gives me a boost over my optimal capacity, but I still feel like it's cheating.

>>42268258
>I see it more like paying for shit you don't need.
Whey and multis are the inexpensive path though.

>>42268345
Caffine is shown to give 12% improvements on exercise.

>>42259350
One of the few supplements that actually work.
I actually notice having better workouts, especially cardio ones.
Gives me raging boners and sleep better. Would reccommend.

bumping for interest

which brand should I try if I decide to try it?

>>42269578
Britfag here, I fell for this shill, here's where the brand I ordered
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HA95WMA/ref=pe_3187911_189395841_TE_3p_dp_1

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>>42269578

>>42269717
> plant root
> Country of Origin: India

what are the chances that you also get some typhus and parasite filled poo in your powder?

>>42269578

This one looks pretty solid.

http://nootropicsdepot.com/ksm-66-powder-ashwagandha-extract/

>>42265465
What do you mean? I looked it up on examine.com as well and didn't se anything that made it look like it could be unhealthy? All I saw were several studies that said cortisol lowered by 30% in 60 days, which seems pretty damn amazing

>>42259350
>ashwagandha
Isn't that the Black Panther super magical city?

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rundown on this?

>>42271067
expensive

>>42271087
Is it worth it?

>>42260274
Zinc and Magnesium are worth a try. For some reason you might be deficient, and it's an easy fix

>>42259350
>Ashwaganda

good luck finding a brand that actually has enough Withanolides to make a pharmacological effect. Of the many, there are only two that do; Solaray and Pure Encapsulations. Technically "pInt by V" does but you have to take it three times a day to reach 9mg of Withanolides.

https://examine.com/supplements/ashwagandha/

>a bit of evidence for increasing testosterone but it is not overly convincing at this time.

>>42271540
>examine.com
ok buddy

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0006628
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2958355/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Clinical+Evaluation+of+the+Spermatogenic+Activity+of+the+Root+Extract+of+Ashwagandha+(Withania+somnifera)+in+Oligospermic+Males%3A+A+Pilot+Study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4609357/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996571/

Here, try peer reviewed studies instead of fucking examine.com. More are needed of course, but there are some promising results

>>42271621
>Here, try peer reviewed studies instead of fucking examine.com.

You realize that examine only uses peer reviewed studies, right?

>>42259350
isnt it expensive

>>42271641
examine is the anti hype site of the internet, they pretty much BTFO nearly all supplements, basically only tell you "lol only creatine and caffeine work well"

that is why people should trust the site a bit more. Any site that wants to prevent you from buying stuff and with that, ALL of the stuff is definitely worth giving your trust to lol.

>>42266433
what's wrong with tasty legumes hombre? or spuds?

Genuinely curious, everything else is pretty much 100% my diet, plus the odd bit of fruit.

Oh and beer

Does it help with hair loss?

Recommended brand and mg?

Side effects?

>>42271641
u realize well over 50% of peer reviewed studies are statistic mumbo jumbo cherry picked bullshit lies paid for right?

>>42259350
because low cortisol is the cause of my asthma

>>42271486
>good luck finding a brand that actually has enough Withanolides to make a pharmacological effect
just curious, how much do you need?

Has anyone tried nettle root and fenugreek seed?

>>42261283

You think a blood test is a meme?

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Is this a good brand and dosage?

$11 on amazon

>>42259350
Honestly lads if you fall for the ashwaganda meme then at least do Sensoril. It's just the clinical form of it, so you don't get some shit quality memeshwaganda instead

>>42273026
Reduced stress helps with hair loss and if done with other things can lead to some regrowth

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nootropic stack
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Ursolic Acid
Creatine
ksm-66 ashwaganda
HMB
Betaine
Phosphatidic Acid
Resveratrol
Epicatechin
Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione
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