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>>42252807
thanks OP, I'm phoneposting and was struggling to find a good fat wojak.

>>42252807
6'3" and just under 220 rn, down 40 some lbs, how much longer do I keep cutting? 170? 180? 190?
Been almost 3 months already.

>>42252840
It's up to you. I'm personally cutting from 265 to 180 lbs (6'4 height).

5'9" Male 82kg

I eat 1500kcal a day with low carb, low fat, high protein macros and in check sodium. Why the fuck am I not hungry. I used to eat 10 times what I eat now, but I feel like I could go even lower without a problem.

>>42253196
because your diet isn't garbage now.

>>42253196
>check sodium
How much sodium is too much? I think i might be talk too much of this stuff.

>>42253224

Just go by daily recommended value. Too much can cause you to retain water.
All the people here that talk about gaining a lot of weight after 1 cheat day and then losing it really fast is because of a spike and subsequent decrease in sodium

For those who made it, are the final 10 kilos the hardest

Because it sure fucking feels like it

>>42253299
Haven't really made it yet, but yeah. I just started maintaining randomly and didn't have the discipline to cut more consistently.

So i just started lifting and eating maintenance instead lol

Do you ever feel like you can feel your fat being chewed up by your body? I used to feel really pudgy all over but after a days lifting the skin starts to feel more taught.

Maybe I'm imagining things.

>>42253403
Fat leaves your body through your breath, so no it's not getting "chewed up".
What you're feeling is a pump.

>>42253419
How does that work?

>>42253428
When you lift your muscles fill with blood and get temporarily bigger.

fat fucks

>>42253665
yo

>>42253665
thats me

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>tfw you don't need to use mfp anymore

I went from 370 lbs down to 230 and then just lost all motivation for almost a year.
I finally started eating right again and lost 5 lbs already. Boy, does it feel good to eat right again. I guess the silver lining here is knowing I didn't shove food in my mouth like a hog in that time and gain a ton of weight back like a lot of people apparently end up doing.

>watching the latest GoT where Samwell treats Jorah
There goes my appetite

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Hey /fat/ I'm a new poster here. I've been following Eric Berg's videos on YouTube and wondering if they're of any help. I've been getting my body used to eating within a 6-time-frame of which I will only eat two meals and then fasting for the rest of the day. I'm intending to follow through and reduce the time window to one hour. Is this a good way to go about losing weight?

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>Just finished week one of C25K
>legs sorta hurt

Its not extreme pain but it was noticable during my run. And it didn't make me want to stop. Is this normal for people who haven't ran in years?

>>42253880
As long as you are eating under your TDEE still it's fine. What you are doing is called Intermittent Fasting.

You'd lose weight if you just ate under TDEE, but some people find it easier with fasting.

>>42253901
Definitely normal. The first week or two are always the worst when it comes to soreness, at least in regards to lifting, not sure about running though since it can be harder on your joints.

You should be fine unless you weigh quite a bit

>>42253955

Ah yes. I just plugged in my meals and I apparently I'm under. I'm eating less in general with this tighter window so I'm probably most likely hitting under my TDEE.

I don't really want to get into calorie counting and constantly plugging in my meals and snacks and recording my walks in MFP. Intermittent fasting seems a lot simpler.

Also on a somewhat related note: Can anybody recommend vaping as an appetite suppressant? I'd like to enjoy something /comfy/ while I'm at my computer shitposting and playing vidya that won't set off a glycemic response and I thought vaping would suit.

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>45lbs down and I don't see any progress

when will i start losing inches on my fatass gut

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35kg lost. Still more 15kg to go.

We're all gonna make it, bros.

>>42254129
Counting calories is absolutely necessary. It is very easy to go over and if you go over your TDEE it wont matter if you are doing IF. You don't have to do it forever, but if you want to lose weight you need to for a couple months at least in order to get a good idea of different thing's calorie contents.
Don't track walks either, over estimating amount of calories you burn during the day is the number one cause of fatasses thinking they should be losing weight but aren't.

Black coffee is a /comfy/ as it gets

>>42254148
You clearly are losing gut, dumbass. It doesn't happen all at once. It's not like you're gonna lose 100% of your gut once the scale reads 200 lbs or something.

Read the sticky, fat and weight sheds from everywhere in fairly even amounts simultaneously. Your gut will be gone when most of your other fat is gone.

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Guys, when I look at myself in the mirror or even a progress pic regularly I get used to seeing that image/perspective and my mind starts making me think I'm not that fat.

It's difficult to explain.

I was videochatting with my friend last night and I saw myself on the video and was like holy shit I am out of shape. I look at myself in the mirror and progress pics every day, but I was still somehow delusional about how out of shape I am. The problem is that when I get used to seeing myself in the mirror or progress pic it's like my mind filters out the out-of-shapeness. When I see myself in a different context/unexpectedly I see myself how others see me and realize that I am much fatter than my mental image of myself.

How do I get around this? I objectively know that I'm fat, but how do I get my mind to change my mental image of myself to a fat person? Like I said, this is a difficult thing to explain, but I'm sure I'm not the only one, right?

>>42254224
I think you're too worried about nothing. Just step on the scales daily and be objective. It sounds like you're just pleased with any progress you've made, which is fine. It should server as motivation to keep it up and look even better.

>>42254159

I've been counted every other day and I'm under. Like... in the realm of 900cals under.

>Black coffee is a /comfy/ as it gets

Black coffee is nasty and bitter and I don't want to stay awake all night. I want something /comfy/ for when I'm at home unwinding. The stimulant affect also seems like it'd increase stress and cortisol which kills the point.

But I might consider some sort of herbal tea.

I don't know what I should eat tonight

>>42254290
>waaaaaa I want to be comfy

Fuck off faggot

>>42254290
Water, green tea

>>42254158
Started at 100 a month back, now down to 96. Seeing results on the scales every week feels great and it's good enough reason to go on. Plus getting on the protein has made me a lot less of a hungry fatass snacker than I used to be.

Just a matter of time ey.

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>>42254307

No shit I want to be comfy. It's better than doing some stupid pseudo-Spartan bullshit and then cheating and fucking everything up and then posting pictures of crying fat Wojak.

>>42254379
>he thinks anything we're doing is "spartan"
>he's of the mindset that serious sacrifice is completely impossible
>he thinks that admitting mistakes so that you might learn from them is a negative

Never gonna make it, stop posting

>>42254290
>Black coffee is nasty and bitter and I don't want to stay awake all night.
tfw was a black coffee drinker before I even started weight loss

I feel like when you drink enough coffee it's just the natural final destination. Adding other shit to the mix puts precious seconds between you and your caffeine. Then again I drink dark beers too so maybe I just like bitter things.

>>42254379
Why not just get a good whey flavor? Smooth chocolate is extremely good and filling

>>42254290
>The stimulant affect also seems like it'd increase stress and cortisol which kills the point.

Dumbass

>>42254379
/fat/ btfo lmao

If you are losing weight then just keep doing what you are doing man. Vaping is lame af tho

>>42254379
>working hard and failing on occasion is proof that the entire enterprise is flawed
>therefore I shouldn't work hard at all

>>42254148
>276 to 255

>45lbs down

nigga u math?

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>>42252807
>finish voring my protein shake
>still hungry

NO!

>>42254532
That's why you don't drink your calories on a cut

>>42254551
How else to get enough protons though.

>>42254578
Chicken breast and fish.

>>42254615
What if I don't like fish and chicken breast never makes me feel full?

>>42254615
I just do shakes since its easy. I have frozen din dins made that I'm just trying to save.

guess ill just survive off water for now

>>42254702
if you need to consume vast quantities for low calories, and good protein ratio, then go for cottage cheese.

>>42254148
Dyel? Also can you count?

Consensus on honey? Fatty here who managed to cut out all regular soda and energy drinks by going to sugar free. Lost weight. I'm now wanting to kick all forms of soda and energy drinks. Especially after reading into artificial sweeteners.

Im doing well abstaining from drinking diet soda. I replaced it with iced water with a lime/lemon cut up and thrown into the metal bottle I drink out of. However I still work long shifts and need caffeine. I intend to have coffee but sugar is a no. As is other fake sweeteners.

TL;DR would a teaspoon of creamer and teaspoon of honey in my coffee everyday hurt a fatty on a cut?

>>42254781
Don't make a habit of eating honey. Even if you have fastidious oral hygiene, ingesting honey routinely for a long time will cause a shitload of cavities. Learn to take your coffee black or tea unsweetened.

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>>42254473
I started at 299 but didn't take pics then

>>42254781
It's still sugar

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>bought some new shirts online since I've been going down in size
>just found out I have to sign for them
>my self-esteem is so low from being fat I'm actually dreading meeting some dude for two seconds and scribbling on a paper for him

>>42254793
Really? Never thought of honey as being a cavity causer. Makes sense when you think about it though. It's liquid natural sugar. Alright then. Any coffees you'd recommend that don't taste terrible black?

>>42254825
write a letter that they can leave it behind the door and sign that

>>42254781
>artificial sweeteners
meme. they're not that bad unless you drink gallon per day.

>>42254835
Coffee grinder + whole beans + french press/aeropress

>>42254835
Just get anything that's not a powdery fine grain. Typically the fine grain coffees are the cheap ones that taste like shit.

>>42254825
I used to be the same way. Don't worry, it should get better over time.

Also, if this is USPS and they leave you the orange slip, you can go online and schedule them to redeliver the item again the next day and leave the signed notice in the mailbox. It at least worked for me.

>>42254847
Didn't know you could do that. Thanks.

>feel too depressed to go to the gym
Tomorrow is a new day :^)

After 2 weeks of bouncing between 248 and 250, I finally weighed 246 this morning.

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>>42254890
>>42254893
I usually have this stuff. I change up the flavors.

>>42254917
NO!
Go to the gym.
Even for 10 minutes. If you'll feel down after 10 minutes then leave.

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How does one fix the always hungry problem? I wasnt this way when i started. After cutting calories from 2000-2600 to 1500-1800 for 3 weeks and inceeasing my exercise output even if i eat a full meal i still have the urge to eat. I take a full stack of a vitamins and eat nutriet rich food. Does anyone else have this issue?

>>42254917
I went the day after I got dumped by the first person I ever loved.

You have no excuse.

>>42254950
>>42254974
All right I'll go this evening.

>>42254973
I try to busy myself with water or gum.

>>42254973
you're supposed to be hungry when you're cutting dufus. just because you're a little hungry doesn't mean you're about to starve to death. you're eating less calories than you need, just drink some water/coffee/tea and suck it up.

>>42254781

I just drink zipfizz

>>42254973
Fiber. Lay off any carbs that are not vegetables. It's anecdotal, but I notice I have less cravings when I don't eat bread, rice, etc.

>>42254997

Im really hungry, even if i eat a 1000 cal meal. Something like that 2 months ago would keep me full for 5+ hours, now its like 30 minutes

>>42255080
It sounds like your metabolism is getting faster. Try to eat less at time but eat a lot more frequently.

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>>42254404

>he thinks anything we're doing is "spartan"
Hence why I preceded it with "pseudo-" It's mostly the shitty attitude my wanting comfy.
>he's of the mindset that serious sacrifice is completely impossible
What sacrifice? I should forgo flavored air because it will net me some tangible benefit in my goal of weight-loss? This is bullshit Spartanism I was talking about.
>he thinks that admitting mistakes so that you might learn from them is a negative
And you think that people are only doing that shit for learning and not just getting (You)s from other people that cheated and want to comfort each other.

>>42254986
That's the spirit :') we're gonna make it, bro

>>42255218
Improving yourself isn't supposed to be comfy. Why do you think there are so many obese people? Fitness is the harder way and fatness is the easy way. If you really want to change, you will learn to love the harder path

I'm on my period, and I tend to crave junk food. How do I prevent this without getting godawful stomach cramps?

>>42255080
eat smaller meals throughout the day, why keep doing 1000cal meals if they're not working? be smart about your food choices, protein fills you up more.

>>42254919
Same shit happened with me. Such a good feeling after being unsure of what you're doing is even helping/worth it. I'm proud of you, dude.

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>>42255283

Cool platitudes, bro. Don't really give a shit.

>>42255547
He's right though. You won't change in the long run at all if you're not willing to make sacrifices for your health.

>>42255304
I'd say if you want junk food, perhaps making baked sweet potato fries would help with that. It's a more starchy food, which we often start craving, but it's not as many calories as regular potatoes, has a boatload of vitamin A and it can help with that need for something sweet and salty at the same time.

I usually just try to eat a lot of veggies. I made some homemade hummus and dipped red pepper, celery and cucumbers in.

>>42252807
holy fuck I'm such a fat brainlet. I I thought the little scooper that came with my protein was half a serving so I'd do 4 scoops (I thought it was two)

I don't even know why I thought that, my brother asked me why I used four servings after we had drank

>>42255706
You know typically with dietary supplements, vitamins, medicine, that kinda thing, it pays to read the box...

>>42255706
At least you got a fuckload of protein, I guess.

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>>42254973
keto and intermittent fasting

>>42254148

You can see obvious differences within this pic, keep it up!

>>42255080

> Smaller, more frequent meals
> Get carbs & Fiber from veggies only, no rice or anything like that (This will cause you to eat A LOT more food in order to attain your daily allotted amount.)
> Eat leaner meats (Fish/Chicken) so you'll have to eat more of it

>>42255547
Fuck off then, fatty

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>tfw losing a lb or more a day of water weight
>feels good but I know it'll stall soon, don't know when
I wish it could just continue on at this pace bros

officially down 40 pounds, 130 days after starting.

253 -> 213. gotta keep going

>>42255893
How big are you? How big does someone have to be to drop that much water weight that fast?

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Lost 198lbs (6'4 392lbs to 194lbs)

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>>42255943
Sitting at 213lbs and bloated. Wanna get back down to 200lbs but diet has been hard while trying to learn front end web development (mostly Javascript). No excuses. I just don't have the same willpower I used to have because I got too comfy for too long.

Anyone else here code?

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currently making it.

take it from a former fatty: never give up, cheat days are called cheat days because those days you are cheating yourself. If you need cheat days you are not adopting a new diet, you are just dieting. If you want pizza, make room for it in your daily allowance. There is no reason to ever cheat.

>>42254973
i agree with
>>42254987

and skip breakfast

>>42255972
makes me happy knowing you still come to /fat/ even though you're pretty much already made dude

>>42255972
>If you want pizza, make room for it in your daily allowance. There is no reason to ever cheat.
Shit nigga that's exactly what I've been doing and I thought it was cheating. Had cereal and a pizza for my entire daily allowance the other day and I guess I was still under since the scales are still going down.

>>42255972
how tall are you ? just to compare with me , i still dont know my weight goal (6'4 here)

>>42255985
A lot of times I still feel like a fatty. I also learned the hard way that I need to be more sensitive around fat people in public. When I say anything people don't see me as a fellow fat person but only as a mean jerk who wants to hurt people.

the mind changes slower than the body.

>>42255994
don't call it cheating if it is just your diet.

>>42256013
I am also 6'4'' 195 cm

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>>42255939
right now 166 5'11''. Was in a week of food debauchery before this week so just getting back on track

>>42256040
ok cool so i have to go to 90kg aswell, well i started at 152 and i'm at 126 right now so i still have some work

thanks for the info and nice job

>>42256018
do you carry a picture of you when you were fat at all times? i think when i make it i will put it in my wallet as a reminder

>>42256085
166 pounds or kilos?

I'm losing about two pounds a week at 5'8", 160. Is this too fast and does this imply that I'm losing a lot of muscle? My lifts are still going up, if only slightly.

>>42256101
Same goal brother. I'm 6'4 and sitting and 118 kg, goal is reach 85-90kg.

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>>42256253
lb

>>42255931
wow good job anon. Keep it up

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>>42256328
we are gonna make it

>>42256379
starting to doubt..

not that I'm worried about failing, but that I don't even want to make it

how can you tell if you're having trouble because your goals are unrealistic, or you're just not trying hard enough?

>>42256379
Yeah, i know. I'm already 10 lbs down since July 2nd.

>>42256429
What are your goals?

Generally they recommend only trying to lose 1 pound a week

>>42256451
I was advised not to use numbers as goals
I just want to like what I see in the mirror

Just realized I've been measuring my waist wrong for the past few months after watching some youtube vids. Thought I was just in denial when I had trouble accepting the bf% I got from the navy calculator, feels good bros.

>>42256550
what video man?

I'm sure my skeleton is deformed because the numbers those calculators give me are so far off

>>42256429

Check these things in this order
1. Do your long term goals (months to year) and short term goals (week to weeks) match what is generally conceived as possible (1-2 pounds lost per week, after initial water weight purge)?
2. Does your target (daily objectives such like 1,500 calories consume) match your goal? Estimate the number of calories you think you should be burning each day using online calculators. Calculate what you think you should be losing each week based on your consumption.

Based on this you can know the problem is one of two things.

1. Your target was never sufficient to achieve your goals.
2. Your estimation of your target success is not accurate.

Problem 1 is fixed by either setting a new target or adjusting your goals.

Problem 2 is harder, but can generally be fixed by taking your current estimated number of calories consumed and multiplying it by 1.1. This will better account for error in calorie calculation (people almost always underestimate). Reevaluate after 2 weeks minimum. If it still isn't working try 1.2. If that doesn't work you have a fundamental problem with your method of tabulation and you need to relearn how to count calories.

>>42256593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5IwwuK5VmQ
I had been measuring too low and getting my hip bones and lovehandles instead of my waist. Bunch of shit online says to measure right at your navel but that doesn't work when you've lost ~100 pounds and have a droopy gut.

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keep up the good work /fat/bros

t. Auschwitz survivor

>>42256732
that's helluva big frog

>>42255966
you're cute...your eyes are so soft...and you have a nice body. Great work, you made it, it was all worth it.

>>42256732
Sometimes I wonder what is worse. At least skellingtons get to wear fitting clothes.

>>42256830

At least fat people (well guys) are seen as funny. Are any positive attributes associated with skellingtons?

Is it a good idea to drink protein shakes on recovery days? I'd still be staying well below TDEE, it's actually the main reason I want to do it, don't want any gains I make being chewed up by the weight loss.

>>42256548
>I was advised not to use numbers as goals
What idiot told you that? I remember losing my first 50 pounds and looking exactly the same in side by side pictures. Metrics are valuable.

>>42256855
both are unhealthy and ugly, that's all what matter

>>42256548

You were advised by a moron.

>>42256949

True

what's a good weight to cut down to before i bulk up and gain muscle as a guy who's 5'11?

I'm 202lbs atm, I was thinking 170 but maybe that's too high.

>>42256548
numerical goals in the context of fitness are critical because it's entirely objective.

for example if your current weight is more than your goal you know you need to keep working on it.

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>>42254825
Don't open the door. Ask him to slide the paper under it so you can sign it and slide it back, then wait til he leaves before you open the door.

>yfw he's still there

is my nigga rainman in here? how're you doing lad? is your family and shit doing okay? how've you been holding up diet wise? hope all is well bro.

>>42257140
there really is a dissonance between what you feel about yourself in the mirror (the subjective) and the weight on the scale (the objective).

last week, i was around 86kg (6ft) and i looked at myself in the mirror and for whatever reason i felt really good desu. coming from 100kg, i genuinely thought i looked attractive. however a few days ago, now around 85.something, i looked in the mirror and i felt so fat and disgusted with myself. my stomach, my love handle, my double chin, i wanted all of that to go.

anyway my point is both the scale and mirror matter. no one things rules, and everything should be considered thoroughly and holistically.

>>42253299
>10 kilos
Talk about the last 5 kilos bro

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>mfw I just ate 2000 kcal worth of dinner

best way to eat sauerkraut?

>>42257528
Put it in your mouth.

>>42254973
Cut out white starch and sugar, seriously you'll have to force yourself to eat.

>>42257468
Wow what was it even

>ate everything that I was supposed to eat as previously planned, probably ate under my calories
>but felt incredibly full half an hour later
>ergo I felt guilty

Fucking hell

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Who /pottage/ here?

Lentils, wheats and veg cooked in stock are so filling bros it's unreal. Cheap as fuck too.

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>>42252807
How am I looking? See reply for after. I've lost about ~55 pounds and still cutting. I'm planning on cutting to either 200 or 190, then eating at maintenance. What do you guys think?

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>>42258158
After

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>>42254148
Following up.

I went to the doctor for a follow-up on a previous visit. I was down 40lbs from where I was at my last visit.

Both the nurse and the doctor said it was amazing and to keep it up.

We're all gonna make it

>>42255677
Thanks anon. I'll stock up on sweet potatos

>>42258158
What's your face look like now?

Also current weight?

Looking much better. Your tits are a lot smaller.

Make sure you lift so you don't get loose skin

>>42258175
That is fantastic

>>42258175
your nipples decrease in size?

>>42255972
Good job man

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>>42258199
Current weight is probably around 211 at my lightest. I've been lifting for over 2 months now, just ready to stop cutting so I can make some serious gains. Here's a photo taken just now, that other one was like a week ago.

>>42258231
Thanks anon
>>42258240
Maybe a little

>>42258276
Yeah you are doing really well good job

>>42258158
Looking much better, anon, keep that shit up. You just inspired my lazy ass

How tall are you? Starting weight? Current?

>>42258261
You're doing great so start smiling in your photos nigga

Any fat cunt looks 200% better with a grin.

Learning to smile is hard but is a real skill.

>>42257673

Fucking McDonalds... I still had coupons in my glove box and found them after working out ...

>>42258301
6'3"
Start: ~260 pounds
Current: ~211 pounds

If you have any questions, shoot away.

>>42258321
Yeah. I've been told I have a really nice smile. I can't really force a genuine smile. My best smile is when I'm laughing and in a really good mood.

>>42257737
same. I feel like I could eat less, but I know that it wouldn't be healthy and I would lose the little bit of muscle mass I gained as I'm already at a 1000kcal deficit (1,5k)

It's the worst feeling. At least we're not actually over eating.

>see all others posting about current weight
>they weigh more than me, but they're taller and look fine
>i'm shorter and look like shit

Life. Is. Not. Fair.

>>42258451
That doesn't make sense. Stop whining.

>>42258451
>i'm shorter
How short?

>>42258451
I'm the 6'3" guy that was just posting. It all comes down to body fat. Even at 213 pounds rn, I have like no muscles and my lifts are shit. You can see all the fat on my body especially around the midsection.

>>42258347
What was your general routine? What are you doing for lifts now?

>>42258451
Bruh I'm 5'6" and weigh more than the guy above me at his starting. All we can do is let it push us to lose that shit faster. Can't change height but can definitely change the makeup of our bodies.

Has anyone dealt with stretch marks? Is there way to get rid of them?

I'm sick of this. All the food I have is sugar. No more fucking sugar, toxic piece of shit. Fuck you bitch. No more. If I starve to death then so be it.

Also, hi /fat/, hope you're all doing well.

>>42258525
Started out with SL 5x5, did that for like 2 months then quit. Surprisingly, most of the weight I lost was when I wasn't doing any type of extra exercise. I'm a college student so I walk around a lot. It was mainly due to eating at a big deficit. I plateaued at like 230 because I got lazy. Started up again about 2 months ago which is when I started doing PPL 6 times a week.
>>42258571
Don't say that anon. You'll break your diet and binge. Have a cheat meal/day once a week and take that opportunity to satisfy cravings.

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what foods do you miss the most /fat/?

>>42258478
5'4

i've lost 131 pounds and still look like garbage while weighing 189

>>42258671
yeah but think about it, you lost 131 pounds. Why stop now? Go have a nice big cheat day and hop back on it. You're gonna make it.

Bought a 330 calorie pint of ice cream.

As long as I'm in my calorie limit I'll be fine right?

>>42258697
I don't want a cheat day. I want to grow 6 inches

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>42258662
Pasta and I havent had it in like 4 months :..:

>>42258768

nice I really only miss comfort diner food

>>42258662
I just miss eating without calculating. You see - you eat.

>>42258646
Thanks for the response man. I need to get my ass walking more. Did a half hour earlier, and I think I'll go out again after dinner. From what I've heard on this board PPL seems bretty gud so I'll look into finally joining the gym. Feeling pretty pumped up now.

We're all gonna make it

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>cutting 500 cal deficits every day, sometimes more
>had 155g of protons today
>/fit/ says too little
>friend says too much

Huh.

I just finished my plan, anyone else have one that looks fun? been searching some at bodybuilding but they all seem to be too different.

>>42258888
>still believing in the protein meme

>>42258956
how else do you recover faster from workouts.

>>42254973
eating carbs and sweets makes your body crave more carbs and sweets and you'll get hungrier faster

Hunger is fat leaving your body.

Embrace it.

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Reminder to get your sleep

>>42256812
You have to be meming

Any other recovering fatties that have cardio'd themselves into postural hypotension? If I stand up too quickly now I'll get lightheaded. Heart rate is also in the low 50's.

I'll take it versus the opposite, but hopefully my body adjusts over time from my bp going from135/85 to 110/68.

>>42258671
Dude you've lost so much be nicer to yourself man you're gonna make it

>>42259128
Got a source for that?

>>42258158
>>42258175
why do people post their body like this without any stats? Do you expect us to know your height and weight from your pictures?

>>42259128

This is absurd, you should never be losing more lean tissue than fat. The worst it should possibly be is a 3:1 ratio of fat to lean tissue.

Something about this study smells fucky.

>>42258671
>5'4
>ever exceeding 200 lbs
where you in a life or death situation where you had to eat to survive?

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>>42258662
stop reminding me i'm tryina fucking make it here

>>42259175
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951287/

>>42259140
n-no anon, I was being serious.

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>>42258671
>5'4"

>binge and eat a milkshake
>milkshake was 1800 calories
How in the fuck

>>42256929
yeah but the lower you get the more it can fluctuate
you could have already hit your goal and just not weighed yourself at the right time of day to see it on the scale

I agree when you're starting out it's useful because you're shoveling tonnes of sand
but when you get to picking up the last few grains then it's not going to help much
(i hope my shitty analogy was comprehensible)

thinking about starting keto, any real advantages to doing it over a balanced diet besides the satiety aspect of it?

>>42259368
Uh was it a dairy queen shake

>>42259394
if you want unbiased info on a ketogenic diet then you're going to have to find it yourself
people here will only shill it to you

>>42259394
Just fast for a while.


Everyone in this thread needs to just stop eating for a few days. It's amazing. I feel so different and my blood sugar doesn't spike anymore.

>>42259409
>>42259427
clockwork

>>42254148

The first 30 or so pounds of weight loss is almost entirely visceral fat and glycogen, so you won't see a crazy difference so early on. Keep going and eventually you'll lose the subcutaneous fat which will make you look much smaller.

Ate half a pizza for 1250 calories....already hit calorie limit.. not gonna make it : (

>>42259368
Food contains calories.

This is how people get fat in the first place ,they don't know how much they are actually eating.

>>42258671
for 5'4 you should be like 120-130lbs. >>42258888
you need .8-1g of protein per lean body mass. lean mass is excluding tissue, water, organs and fat. most can be fine with 100g.

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>tfw accidentally ate two pbj's right after coming home from chipotle
>tfw accidentally made another and can't let it go to waste
fml

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>went from 315 to 249
>manbreasts still haven't shrunk at all

They'll go away eventually, r-right?

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You know you want it, /fat/

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Just binged and purged around 1.5k-2k cals and since I can't accurately be sure how much I threw back up, I'm not going to eat the rest of the day and just get back on the horse tomorrow. I sure feel awful about it though

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>>42259784
i cannot stop laughing at this. Who the fuck goes to a restaurant and then gets home and IMMEDIATELY eats something???

>>42260142
Just get back on the diet horse and don't worry about your eating disorder.

Wait, no, that would be stupid. Get help for your eating disorder. Are you the same guy from the last thread?

>>42260107
330 calories per pint? Does it taste like shit? That's actually pretty tempting.

>>42259784
>throw in oven
>crank to max heat
>profit

>>42260142
A good fast never hurt nobody.

>>42259784
Do you know what a refrigerator is? You can put a sandwich in there.

>>42260208
Tastes pretty good honestly. I was full of it at the 1/3 pint point so only 110 calories

>>42260227
That's really something to consider. Ben and Jerry's is fucking 1200 calories per pint.

>>42260142
we dont accept eating disorders here. go to /thinspo/ in /fa/ if you want that.

>>42260204
No, I don't binge a lot. I've had a very stressful week and there isn't a lot of food in the house, I've purged thrice in the past week or so but before that I didn't purge at all for at least a month
Fuck that stupid "Get Help" bullshit though, I can't get help, there is nothing I can do. Nobody gives a shit enough about me to see the blantant problems I have and I am a NEET.
Hard to really even consider it seriously considering I only do it occasionally.

I really wish I'd stop fucking up, If I wake up tomorrow and don't weigh 184, I honestly might cry, These last few pounds are tough but the huge depression fit I'm in makes it so much harder

>>42260352
>nobody gives a shit enough about me

I'm sorry, I meant professional help. It doesn't matter if they care about you personally, they have to care professionally. That's why they help.

Losing weight won't fix your depression or unhealthy relationship with food, dude. But good luck either way.

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>tfw meet weight goal for month so you don't have to worry about eating at a deficit for the rest of the week

>>42254290

Two recommendations: Rooibos. South african herbal tea. Probably the most tea like herbal tea I've had. I started drinking it when I stopped being able to drink black tea due to meds.

Hibiscus Flower Tea. Bright red, really refreshing cold.

tfw no sodie pop
Every time i drink soda, even diet, i relapse a little. water used to be so sweet.

>>42260448
>for the month

But you aren't at your final goal? Why would you stop? You aren't done yet.

>>42260418
I know what you mean. I'm not paying for some dunce to spout his bullshit

>>42260478
because i want to lose weight at a steady rate, 5 pounds a month every month until i reach my goal

down to 225 from 295

>>42260486
If you knew what I meant than why did you respond that nobody cares about you enough to notice your issues? That's completely irrelevant. I hope not dealing with your other problems and just focusing on weight pays off eventually.

>>42260496
Interesting strategy. If it's working for you keep it up dude.

6’3 284>263 so far

OHP 175

Bench 245

Squat 335

Power clean 225

DL 405

Had a date last night. Cute, 5’9, smart, financially responsible, nerd like me

Went well! Great date (dope food, then aquarium, then froyo). She comes over and we get frisky. She’s all about me. Hanging out later. Good times

Just sharing. Never posted in one of these before

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>girlscouts camping outside Publix again

>>42260208
having less calories doesn't negate the damage of the amount of sugar it has in it

>>42260592
so you went 1/2/3/4 switch to ppl then, don't go t rex mode

>>42260619
did you just diagnose diagnose diabetes from an anonymous forum post?
that's pretty fucking impressive if you're right

>>42260597
>carrying around cash

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I'm hungry.

>>42259180
I posted that purely for visual. People asked so i gave stats

>>42260689
I heard Little Caesar's has a "buy two get one" deal on large pizzas this week.

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>>42260723
devilish

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>>42260723
r-really?

>>42260689

you should get something naughty! reward yourself for your hard work anon. maybe something sweet afterwards? don't go overboard, though. :)

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>>42260689
I'm full

>>42259264

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951287/

Jesus fuck this is why nutrition science is terrible.

>10 overweight nonsmoking adults (3F/7M)

> BMI: 27.4 (2.0) kg/m

> diet with caloric content restricted to 90% of their resting metabolic rate at the time of screening

>Daily calories were divided among breakfast (25%, 8:00–9:00), lunch (30%, 12:30–13:30), dinner (35%, 18:30–19:30) and an evening snack (10%, 21:00)

The big things I didn't see in this paper, (though I just skimmed it so if someone more thorough has seen it please correct me): Macros. No mention of protein intake.

Body fat percentage.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15615615

Suggests an upper limit of 31 calories per pound per day for calories produced by fat.

Without knowing the body composition of the participants, or the diet, it's hard to tell if this is lack of sleep, lack of protein, cutting too deep, or some combination of all three.

>1am
>450kcal under target for today (now yesterday)
>know I'm not going to sleep tonight
should I grab some food to take to bed with me?
I know that sounds like a horrible idea, but if I'm stuck in my room all night whilst everyone else is asleep, I'm probably going to be fixated on how hungry I am until morning and get a huge breakfast again

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Day 8 of Whole30

Lost a lot of bloat.
Feel good. Can breathe better. Not as lethargic as day 1 or 2.

Farts smell like a tire fire. Currently blowing up the toilet.

>>42260945
We don't know what time it is where you are, or why you aren't sleeping.

But if it's a long time, I guess? Fix your shit and start getting back to sleep.

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>>42253821
I went from 308 to 245 through diet and exercise, and have kind of sat there for the last 6 months even though I slacked off for a week every month or so.
I'm starting keto, strict free weights, and more cardio to see if it helps.

So it's been a week and I've lost 6.5lbs already. Original weight was 250lbs? Am I doing good?

>>42260977
>We don't know what time it is where you are
first line
>or why you aren't sleeping.
irrelevant
>Fix your shit and start getting back to sleep.
that doesn't help me get through tonight

1/5, stop giving advice

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i looked at her facebook again. she's probably already fucking someone else.

>>42261078
If the reason you aren't sleeping is irrelevant, then the fact you aren't sleeping is irrelevant. It doesnt matter that it's late night, you just wanted to ask to eat your previous day's deficit the next day.

Stop including information if you don't want people to bring it up.

>>42261078
Are you on any painkillers, opioids, corticosteroids, antidepressants, thyroid medication, laxatives, stool hardeners, indigestion remedies, or proton pump inhibitors?

Also do you have a history of diabetes, heart condition, depression, anxiety, bowel or digestive condition, cancer, or joint pain?

>>42261130
>Patient: Doctor, it hurts when I do this!
>Doctor: Don't do that.

>>42261175
I was a bit harsh and I apologise for that
the take home was that I was going to be spending the next 6-10 hours alone and bored, sleep isn't relevant at all. I just thought people would deduce that without me having to spell it out
I shall remember for the future though

>>42261192
no and no

>>42260823
the only variable they changed in the two weight loss phases was the sleep - yes there are other factors, but this study demonstrates sleep IS a factor, every single data point confirms that

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>>42259394
>>42259409
>>42259427
Why do I still come here?

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>>42260208
>>42260227
Sure is good of them to not have to include the calories from sugar on the label

250 lb 5'9" guy here. I'm just starting out taking my health really seriously and I'm wondering what % cut I should do from my TDEE. I want to lose fat and gain muscle I don't really care about losing lbs but I want to look and feel better. Whats a good % deficit for what I want to do?

Also online calculators say I need a ridiculous amount of protein. How on earth am I supposed to eat 260g of protein in a day?

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I ate 360 grams of chicken, 2 cups of rice, and a half pound of broccoli for supper. My plate was literally overflowing with food.

Never buying chicken again, didn't know 360 grams was that much. Cottage cheese seems much more efficient.

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>5'10"
I've gone from about 240lbs to 199 in the past 2.5 months. I have been running and walking a lot and taking in about 1.9k calories and 200g protein a day.

I feel like I need to start lifting, I'm pretty much dyel and don't know where to start. should I buy a weight bench?

>>42261399
get protein powder

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>>42261410
>tfw living with family and don't have the luxury to buy all the chicken rice and broccoli that i want

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>>42258662
sugar
sweet chocolate
dalis cake looks fucking so good

>>42261484
I drink 2 scoops of Muscle Milk almost every day because it's what my roommate buys. Is it any good as a protein powder because it has a suspiciously high amount of calories.

>>42260107
I would be interested if it was a lot cheaper than halo top but I don't think it is.
>>42261399
You don't need 260 grams of protein a day, half of that is fine.

How does exercising for 3-5 days instead of 1-2 days change TDEE by 500?>>42261484

>>42261721
That's why everyone all the time says to use sedentary setting when calculating TDEE. It's less inaccurate.

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> tfw hated myself all my life
> hate being chubby
> not grooming myself properly due to being meme-depressed
> start eating right, get fit and muscular, look good in everything
> self-confidence through the roof

if you are white you should already be grateful for getting that aesthetic genetic gift. one thing that helped me the most while losing weight and working out every day, (still do no matter what), was focusing on the positive genetic traits i cannot change. instead of bitching and moaning about muh metabolism, muh height, etc... also, unless you are really fucked and an abomination losing weight will make you infinitely more handsome. we are all going to make it bros.

How long a person survive without food, wondering if I should just go 1-2 weeks without food

>>42253196
nigger i weight 90kg and my uper abs are showing, i'm your height.

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>>42260597
>coconut Samoa
>lemon cookies
Holy fuck this shit is tempting

>>42262035
Water fasting is a thing. You can certainly just not eat for 2 weeks. It can lead to cycles of binge eating and fasting though.

>Heard Mom ordering pizza
>I know she's getting the garlic cheese bread, which isn't good cold/reheated
Lord help me

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>>42260107
I've realized all the added fat and sugar, not to mention assload of chemicals, is not worth my health.

Try this:
1 large sweet potato, 2 Fuji apples cored. Place in oven and cook until soft (I leave them in until they start to caramelize).

Peel skin off apples and sweet potato.

Puree in blender with 1 tbsp honey and 1 tbsp pumpkin pie spice.

Place in baking dish, sprinkle with cloves and nutmeg, and cook until pumpkin pie consistency. (Broil last few minutes for caramelized top)

Eat warm or freeze if desired.

>>42262398
You're better than your temptation. Stay strong anon.

Is there some sort of "gain fast lose fast" rule? Whenever I binge for a bit and gain one or two kilos that weight is lost just as fast as it came. But when it's back to losing the weight I've had for years it can take a week to lose a single kilo.

>>42262485
You're basically shitting what your body hasn't fully digested yet.

Your body doesn't have time to process everything.

Skeleton here, the secret really is to just not eat for 99% of the day. I drink a pot of black coffee and pop in some chewing gum before work. It's a very physical 12-hour job at a distribution center. Initially you might be ravenous when you get home from work, but eventually your body adjusts and you're not even hungry when you get home. I just drink like a liter of ice water during every break period, sometimes more. I drink so much water during the day it borders on polydipsia. It's just a reflex at this point and it feels weird to not be constantly sipping on something.

>>42262485
When you binge a lot of it is water weight because your body retains more water to help digest the large amount of food you just ate

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Confess.

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How come I'm not losing weight

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>>42262681
i hate myself father

first day at the gym, exhasuted after 20 minutes of jogging and 10 minutes of lifting. i don't think i'm gonna make it

>>42262622
hold up so you're telling me the secret to losing weight is to not eat so much... damn...

>>42262696
triggered
i'm trying so hard to stick to a diet don't make me think about cookie dough

>>42262763
fuck that faggot, dont give in it isnt worth it at all

>>42262681
>>42262398
I ate three pieces of garlic bread.

They were already kinda cold.

Ive dedicated myself to live as clean a lifestyle as I can for as long as I can, no binging, no tobacco, no weed, no alcohol, no soda. I feel genuinely happier this way, every time I drink I binge out on stupid shit

>>42262732
Intermittent fasting is the magic bullet. The "smaller meals" meme is just self-torture like having sex but only being allowed to put the tip in for a second. It's easier to not eat at all than to force yourself to accept 3 blueberries for lunch. You got a taste of food and are just left wanting more, your fasting state is broken, and you're more likely to say "well just one more bite couldn't hurt". Before you know it you went 500 calories over your plan for the lunch.

What's the frequency of your cheat days/meals?
I've been on keto for a month and had one cheat day but still kept the calories equal to my TDEE.
But I feel like my willpower is struggling

>>42262954
One Meal a week

>>42253196
because carbohydrates make you fee hungry when you really don't need food. basically fake hunger. also, you're probably eating more fat than you think, and fat is great for satiety.

>>42262954
>>42262976
This, make it count fattie

>tfw down 50 pounds since march and started going to the gym recently, drinking only water/black coffee, and eating 9 hours out of the day
Thanks guys

work to do yet, but it's a system, not a goal

Might be a stupid question, but does drinking a cup of black coffee break my fast?

>>42263178
yeah
it's calories

>>42263178
That should be fine. Some people think black coffee is fine for fasting. Also taking vitamins which have a few calories.

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I'm hungry right now this 1700k diet is killing my lifts and making me irritable. it's been months and I've lost plenty of weight but shit lads, I'm hungry

>>42262681
I had 2 slices of bread with peanut butter and bananas on top.

>>42263178
No, it's a negligible amount of calories, the vast majority of intermittent fasting advocates use black coffee during their fast to blunt hunger without breaking their fast.

Remember that the coffee is black with nothing in it at all except coffee and water, obviously your fast will break if you add in sugar for example, the coffee by itself is next to 0 calories

cheated saturday and sunday, jumped back onto omad psmf today.

i got too full today so i only ate about 900 kcal and blasted water about 3 times after. question is should I weigh in tomorrow to check the damage or wait until friday for the contest?

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>keep telling myself I'm gonna go on my diet
>eat a huge pizza and some other small things for like 2500 calories again
"I'll start next week"

E N O U G H

Next time I go shopping I'm clearing all my trash food out and fixing it properly

This shit just tastes good for 5 minutes then makes me feel like trash after

>>42254224
That's good mang. Delusional confidence is healthy. Insecurity isn't.

>>42263365
Next thread

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>Finally broken into 220s

Well 229.2. My worst was 247 and I was sort of slowly moving in 230s

>>42252840
Until you look skinny enough in the mirror. Dont forget to lift if you want muscles

During the weight loss process, is it common for your posture and lower back to change?

>>42257109
I would use a mirror and see how much muscle you have already

Do a lot of the fatties here diet and exercise or just diet? If so what exercises are you doing?

I ate a gross quantity of shitty food the past 2 days, now I feel like a disgusting fat freak and genuinely just want to die

>>42255972
How much did your lower lift cost?

>>42253713
inb4 yo yo effect

>>42263319
>next time I go shopping
Throw everything away now. If you have to fast for a bit til you get the right kind of food, it wont kill you. The longer you wait the more chance your fat ass brain will try to rationalize not doing the right thing.