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recommend me a cycle to do while on cut

>>42209191
>cutting cycle
beep beep retard alert

just started nolva pct today and im shitting myself about having a stroke or a blood clot form in my leg
getting aspirin tomorrow
is it actually a risk?

>>42209104
Hi, I'd like to start frauding but I don't know where to start. Plus I'm in France, where it's illegal. Any idea/experience to help me plz?

>>42209418
Not this shit again. Gear preserves muscle mass on a cut. That's why it's good.

>>42209511
>Noob questions should be prefaced with age, time spent training, and bodyfat percentage.

When you're steam pressure sterilising new vials is there any reason not to use 70% alcohol instead (assume electric hotplate source, no spark/flame) apart from the fact water is free. I feel like it'd a better job at sterilising.

>>42209191
700mg TrenA/700mg MastP/350 TestP/10ui HGH and 75mg a day of winny and anavar as a finisher

>>42209511
Reddit steroid wiki.

>>42209521
test is muscle sparing at super low dosages. if you are cycling you sure as shit shouldn't waste your cycle cutting.

cutting is done during a cruise for the bnc people or natty for the cyclers. if you're doing a cutting cycle you're a mouthbreather

>>42209511
>>42209522
I just turned 30, lift for 3 years (more seriously since 18 months), 177cm, 80kg, around 15% bf, curently bulking.

>tfw realize 1 gram of "salt" is only 400mg of sodium
>that means as a physically active male, I can have 8-12g of salt a day

fuck that makes things so much better.

inb4 130lbs 33% bodyfat manlets who works in an office and does curls once a week claim "2grams of sodium is wut the jew- I mean the health association of [[america]] says so I should buy premium triple priced low-salt alternatives"

>>42209560
>50ng/dl is muscle sparing guyz

>>42209560
We want to reduce muscle protein breakdown during a cut and even get a nice boost to muscle protein synthesis during it.

The ratio of fat to muscle loss (or even potentially gaining) is vastly widened, especially at lower body fats.

That's why we cut on gear you gains goblin.

Does fatlifts have a gf yet?

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23, year lifting, 6'2", 200 15-18%bf
Gonna be running a 12 week test e cycle and I'm wondering if I should taper on and off at like 250, while doing 500 the rest of the time. Also should I throw anything else in or just use test for my first cycle to Max that out. Was really only thinking var as something I'd throw in. Opinions?

>>42209682
Yes but 150-200mg test is plenty for preserving mass on a cut. "Cutting cycle" insinuates some big event.

Going to get some PT-141 later this week. Any tips for first time dosage and timing?

>>42209576
I do blue collar work and sweat like a motherfucker at work. That on top of lifting and cardio basically means I don't watch my sodium at all. I sweat so much out its probably good to have more sodium than the average person. I'm somewhat lean and have good BP/RHR

Just about to inject test now

>>42210015
I hope you pass

>>42209545
It will evaporate at 67 degrees? You want to get a higher temperature.. besides its not like the water or alcohol will go inside the vial and somehow sterilize it.

Just use water

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>>42206101
Yeah this past Sunday.

>>42209545
Depends on the grade/quality of your alcohol, technical might leave some irritavle residues. Which amount of alcohol are we talking about? Pressure and temperature of the pressure cooker?

You might want to look at the flash point/autoignition point of alcohol. Have I not already answered your question a few weeks back?

I think im getting bigger becasue it's getting harder to take off my shirt after gym session and i've noticed i've got red marks all over my back from shirts seams

>>42209947

I'm surprised my BP is normal when on 2g of test, 40mg drol and lots of salty shit.

that would be the go signal to take even more gear but the lactation issue prevents me

Is sweating/high temperature common for high BP or is it the frauds that directly affect the temperature disregarding BP

>>42210557
post body, i want to see what 2 g's of test and 40 mg of drol looks like
>spoiler: he won't

How do your erections and cumshots differ when you're off cycle and on a low dose TestE and EQ cycle?

>>42210796
We all know only MasT posts pics when his manhood is threathened.

Ps. Mast post your leanest pictures again.

Have any of you guys seen an increase in dick size after doing test?

got my gear before the feds took down my source. feels good man. pity im still fat

>>42211259
no that's retarded

>>42211283
Why? It will grow a clit into a micro dick.

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>Weeks 1-15 500mg test C + bulk diet
>Week 16 250mg test C + maintenance diet
>Weeks 17-19 250mg test C + psmf

Is it fucking retarded or would it actually work? Plan to start as lean as possible.

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>>42210796
Not him but W2C less hairy body?

>>42209104
I was injecting 500mg test E per week and I see almost no different in my body. I was on a 15 week cycle. I also have other warning signs that I was injecting bunk gear this entire time.

Should I still do a 15 week PCT? How dumb would it be to get new good gear and start another cycle right away?

>>42211766
Holy fuck, literal caveman status

300mg test c
150mg mast e
how will this go? will i need an AI also?

also how bad is t400 or mast 400?

>>42211042
When I was on medium test (300mg/w)and EQ, I got boners all the time, sometimes even so hard it was painful. Also sex drive through the roof.

Off cycle get regular boners, usually wake up with one. Fap maybe once a day.

>>42211781
Did your balls shrink on cycle? Also you mean take 15 weeks off cycle right? Pct only takes 4 weeks usually

>>42211781
it might of been bunk. you should be making gains at least a few times faster than your normal amount

>>42211867
Whats the goal?

>>42211781
why the fuck did you wait 15 weeks

were you using any ai? no sides whatsoever?

>>42211867
yes you will

t400 pip hurts like a motherfucker

How much balls shrinkage should I expect on a cycle? Is it going to be noticeable? I couldn't find pictures anywhere

>>42209757
whether or not 150-200mg test is enough for a cut depends entirely on your physique. If you are close to or above your natty limit, then normal test levels in the body is not going to be enough to hold on to your muscle mass in a deficit.

If you're way off from your natty limit, then it's of course a waste, unless you're using specific steroids for that vascular hard look.

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>Don't know if I'm feeling overly emotional today bc of blood levels shit or because Chester Bennington died

I think I'm starting to look better and haven't really had any sides as far as I know, so I'd say my cycle is going okay so far. How are my fellow babby's on their first cycle doing today?

>>42211781
>15 week pct
Holy shit no

>>42212059
As a man you're probably well aware of the normal size of your boys, so just see if they're smaller than they usually are.

>>42211781

did you do everything else correctly?

>>42212059
mine shrank like 20%.

why do people even care about this, they will revert back to normal size after the cycle so stop whining

>>42212043
TRT, and unfuck my body from being lowT and bad hormones for years. been highly effeminized and hips are growing. i want to see if I can undo any of that, while simultaneously not getting bloated from all the test.
extra gains is just an perk, not the main goal

>>42212108
300mg test and 150mg mast for a TRT?

Try 200mg test instead. You shouldn't need an AI on that dose, and if you do, it's going to be quite a small dose.

>>42209871
about 10 hours prior, seriously. works great though, start with 1mg. with pt141 and a little caber i can cum several times without losing stroke or my hard on. dont just take caber for no reason though thats retarded

>>42212175
i was thinking about just doing the 300 and 150 for a year to speed up my "recovery" if that's even possible, then going down to 200/100 or something. maybe even drop the mast totally

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>>42212226
why the mast?

let me guess you googled it and came across a few sites saying side effects masculization

>>42212105
im never coming off and fuck hcg, i like my balls smaller, they stick to my leg less and it makes my dick look way bigger.

>>42212226
Try 200mg first and see how that feels. Don't do half measures. If you want to go higher than that, then just do blast on 400-600mg of test for 3 months before going back to 200mg.

>>42209104
I fucked up
I'm on the 8th week of a test e only cycle (500 mg ew for 12 weeks).
And I lost my HGC. Literally. I recently moved and the baggy with pregnyl was lost.
Am I fucked? I can't get more, and all pharmacys here say it's been discontinued.
My balls are already like 60% of their normal size. Should I end the cycle now and hope that they return to normal after PCT?

>>42212260
HCG is considered optional for a test only cycle. Most guys PCT with nolva / clomid only without ever touching HCG throughout their cycle and bounce back fine. Don't stress.

>>42212246
did you die?

>>42212305
So I should finish my twelve weeks?
Also if my nips are getting sensitive should I start nolva?
Thanks man.

>>42212352
I would man you've come this far. I wouldn't touch nolva for nips unless you have some serious puff going on - for sensitivity I would just increase AI first to see if that solves the problem - if gyno seems like it's setting in I would start it

>>42212370
Why up the ai but not touch nolva?
What negative effects would nolva have?
Just curious

>>42212388
brain fog is pretty annoying on nolva but gyno in very very early stages doesnt do shit and can still be controlled by AI.

>doctor appointment on a pin day (a Monday morning, when I normally pin) next month
>he wants to do basic metabolic and lipid panels
>started cruising recently, but haven't gotten bloods yet

Should I get bloods as normal, or get them before pinning on Monday, to see how things will look to the doctor? I think the doctor will see a trough, right?

I aromatize a bit heavily, so there's a chance my estro will be right up against the high end of the reference range at peak.

On that note, does anyone have that chart of estrogen levels in relation to pinning time?

>>42212246
I believe that mast is purely androgens and androgens are what actually would masculize my body yes,

>>42212255
why do you think that I should do one or the other and not just an in-between?

>>42211766
motherfuckers going back in the evolutionary chain and turning into primal humans with tons of body hair.
thing is that chicks probably fucking love that

>>42211895
No they did not shrink at all.

>>42212057
>why the fuck did you wait 15 weeks
>were you using any ai? no sides whatsoever?
I waited 15 weeks because I kept thinking "maybe it will get better, I've heard the last few weeks are the biggest gains!" so I kept going. I didn't use an AI except twice and both times it crashed my E2 even though I took a half of a pill. Never got any sides whatsoever.

>>42212104
I ate calorie surplus and worked out 5 times a week doing high volume high intensity and sometimes low volume max outs. Ate 200g protein every day.

>>42212532
It depends on the chick. You'll notice no men in hollywood have hair except a select few. It's standard for men in hollywood and in any commercial to get a full body wax.

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My ass hurt lads

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the shorter the cycle = less chance of there being a permanent adverse effect on natty test levels?

is 300mg test e for 10 wks a viable cycle? afaik cycle lengths are typically 12 wks, but to have the extra 2 weeks I'll need to buy another vial which is not preferable.

please help

>>42212888
1g tren a or bust

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>>42212751

from what?

>>42212494
unless you're still in puberty or somewhat after puberty 18/19 I doubt it will do much.

but hey your money.

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>>42212927
Homosex, i used a 1.5 pin and i normally use 1 so i injected to deep

>Get memed into this tinder plus thing
>Set location to japan so I can meet some qts before i go
>Accidently boost myself
>its only 6am japtime

I feel like this was a waste, at least my tren comes tomorrow

>>42213000
did the same thing, boosted at like 1 am monday night.

felt really dumb, still got like 7 matches (i live in a really small town) off of it.

tell me friends, how bad exactly is t400.
would someone get used to it eventuall?

>>42212440
But there isn't a negative effect on gains by nolva?

>>42213098
It's pretty good, it's like all other thinkpads so you know the build quality is good and it is durable.

>>42213119
th-thanks

>>42213035
An ex friend that I haven't seen in two years invited me to a party with a bunch of people I don't know, his and her friends basically.

Do you guys think I should go? I mean, I probably won't know anyone there and it'll be awkward. On the other hand I don't have friends anymore and I haven't been to a party or club in +5 years.

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>>42213251
>>42213035
Woah, I didn't mean to quote you. Sorry!

>>42213277
>Woah, I didn't mean to quote you. Sorry!
You are dead kid, nothing personnel

>>42213251
>I mean, I probably won't know anyone there and it'll be awkward
>it'll be awkward
Never going to make it.

>>42213310
Pd: Go to the party lad, get out of the confort zone and go, best case you make friends and worst case you make some social gains CMON

>>42213310
N-no please!

>>42213354
Will I make it if i go? I was thinking of getting stoned and going.

>>42213421
But I am SCARED
Is it weird if everyone is having alcohol and snacks and I just drink water the whole time? I'm doing intermittent fasting and at that hour I'm done consuming calories for the day

>>42213495
then dont go.

i can smell your autism and only acohol will cure it.

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>>42213495
It's friendship day just drop the autism and drink some SIPS® of ferneh and socialize

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>>42213529
I am a bit nervous about everyone talking about their jobs and schools... I am a NEET so I never know what to say when they ask me what I do.

>>42213574
Wait, how do you know about all of that again? Is it friendship day everywhere? Why did you mention ferneh? Do you know where I am from? HOW DO YOU KNOW? I WANT THE TRUTH!

Rows are still the worst of all. Worse than calf raises

>>42213720
"im inbetween jobs"

>>42213720
I am your GEAR SENSEI, now go to that party and make friends fag

Say if was to need to pin 1.5ml of oil and I only had 1ml pins, how bad of an idea would it to be to pin the same injection site two times in a row given I use 2 different pins.

How do I inject painlessly? It always hurts going in. I'm using a 27g needle

Just got an email from Coinbase about UAHF and UASF. It looks like Bitcoin is potentially getting forked into two blockchains.

Does anyone know what effect this will have on the use of Bitcoin for gear purchases?

>>42213886
What the fuck, a 27 gauge and it still hurts?

>>42212465

/fraud/ pls, I only have a couple of Mondays before the doctor's appointment.

>>42214171

I'm piercing the skin as slow as possible, is that the technique?

>>42214254
Will you get in trouble for being on gear or something? Just tell them, it's literally their job to help you. I told my doctor before I started my cycle and got blood work, it's more common than you think

>>42213886
I use 23g 1" man up homie

went into my Ventro gluteal like butter today no feeling

>>42214355

I don't want to risk it. If the insurance company finds out (burgerland), then yes, I'm in big trouble as far as money is concerned. I don't know this doctor well, so I'm not going to spew my illegal activities at him and just hope that he isn't going to tell them.

Anyway, I'm not so much worried about getting in trouble as I am about things showing up out of range. If it's in range, there are no issues.

If I get blood tests for peaks (useful for me), I won't be sure what the doctor sees. But, if I get bloods to line up with the doctor's timing, then I won't have the information useful for adjusting my dosages.

>>42213864
it's fine. heck, you could use the same pin also if you wanted

>>42214316
no, you hold your breath and put it in fast

>>42209545
>>42210479

Actually wouldn't microwaving the vials sterilise it? Maybe you couldn't do the rubber but just curious here. I don't mean from the glass heating up either. Any bacteria or virus etc are all cells which contain water, they'd burst from water in the cell absorbing the microwave energy right? Assuming the vials are dry.

Actually the whole cell may just vaporise before the glass even warms up?

>>42214438
i don't know this, but i THOUGHT doctors aren't allowed to say shit, just like lawyers

>>42213886
the only thing that should hurt is when you pierce the skin. other than that it really shouldn't hurt at all.
if the needle hurts the skin, then what you do is pull the skin apart and go for it. it eases the pain

>>42211042
Is it low e or high e that kinda weakens boners when on high test?

>>42214472

I wish. That rule doesn't apply to insurance companies, since they're paying for your treatment.

So it turns out that you can only swipe right on 2000 profiles a day even with tinder plus or else your account gets banned for 12 hours. And here I am think that Japanese women are not attracted to tall muscular white males.

>>42214525
it doesn't get banned at all, you just don't get shown any profiles anymore.

you're still shown to everyone.

Just thinking about this here.. there doesn't seem to be any injectable steroids for growth outside of high test, nandrolone, tren, and boldenone. I'm talking about a typical source here carrying all the main stuff.

Outside of more exotic stuff like trest and DHB I can't think of anything a typical source has that's injectable for growing mass.

>>42214525
I got a lot of matches in Japan

Also tfw starting home brew in Japan

>>42214580
To be fair, for a person with average genetics those compounds are more than enough. Test nandrolone/bold and anadrol are supreme for efficient mass. Hell even just a gram of test.

>>42214548
W-well its still early over there

>>42214597
I got matches a while ago when I used a gps spoof but I just reinstalled the app and signed up for tinder plus. I might get more matches eventually.

Also whats the steroid culture like in Japan. If I enjoy this visit I might do a longer stay next year and will need to get my hands on atleast some test.

>>42214633
From what I understand it's tough finding a legit weight lifting gym. I've heard of entire complexes just being cardio mills.

>>42214633
You can import gear without a script legally even if customs checks it, I did by online order. They might complain about the amount since you're only supposed to import one months supply which normally means at a prescription dosage.

If you're importing stuff that has never had a defined prescription then they wouldn't know I guess.

They won't tell you what the actual limit is in mg etc until you try importing it. They'll just say one month when pressed further for a defined amount they'll say 30 days x dose.

Tfw imported stealthed raw powder, got letter asking what it is, told them oxymetholone (anadrol) and some other stuff

>Sir 15000mg of oxymetholone is above the limit of 1500mg

That's all they had a problem with. Sender resent it and so I just said send it back (you can also have offending items taken out and take everything else you ordered).

I told them new package with correct amount is on its way (I asked seller to reduce anadrol and add bunch of other stuff instead)

Tfw they didn't reduce anadrol but did get all the other stuff. Luckily customs didn't check this one probably because I visited in person and told them that and new one had just shown up in customs when I visited.

But there's local sources too.


Importing syringes/pins isn't legal iirc (maybe it's just syringes rather than pins I not sure), but there's local sources - you can't get them from a pharmacy iirc.

>>42214622
Not necessarily asking for stronger, just occurred to me there isn't a lot of choices if you want something that's not high test, and if you maybe exclude EQ for being weaker than the others and requiring high pin volume. Then youre left with nandrolone or tren.

>Haha anon why would you take 19nors if youre not a competitive bodybuilder at high levels

Ree desu

>>42214655
>>42214633
Internet meme. Even public gyms have weight room with squat rack and bench press. People will dead lift in the squat rack if there's no dedicated area. There's even a Smith machine so you'll see bench and shrugs in the Smith machine too.

Should feel right at home.

Many private gyms have weights too. There are some private ones that don't which are more like a cardio+machines+day spa center with maybe tanning beds and physio stuff.

In the private gym sector they even have golds gym.

Most private gyms are 24 hour.

>>42214783
There is a gold's gym with in 10minutes walking distance of my hotel in both Osaka and Tokyo so I'm hoping they will be sufficient. I also want to spend the money and go to the maid gym in Akihabara for a session.

Should I wear a compression sleeve to cover my tattoos or is that also a meme?

>>42214852
Probably a meme. That's typically an old rule for bath houses and some onsens about banning tattoos - banning yakuza. I've been to onsen that don't ban them and bathed next to a guy with sleeve tattoos and massive shit all over his back (yakuza). Though being out in the country so far from anything they're going for vacation not to cause trouble after a night of drinking in the city.

Golds Gym is what you'd expect, it caters especially to lifters.

It's about $100/month if I remember (you can check online).

Public gyms can be like a few hundred yen per visit. They're not 24 hour though.

I've seen other private gyms from 3000 yen per month and higher. Some of those will have everything you need, even if it's only 1 squat rack for everyone to share etc. But they're 24 hour.

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/6og2kb/ask_anything_20170720/dki2ww1/?utm_content=permalink&utm_medium=front&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=steroids

>>>>>>>roiding for this

>>42215821
what the actual fuck

>>42212986
Nah even starting at 22 I've noticed my head has changed shape slightly over the past 2 years, my ribcage seems a bit bigger and exercises that used to hurt my shoulders and sternum no longer do, that may be unrelated though

Mentality gains off the charts though.

>>42215828
Powerlifter with 14 inch arms 30% bf

>>42215821
Jesus i thought it had to be bait until i looked at his post history. I am beyond upset.

>>42214580
What else do you want?

Seriously test/deca/adrol/dbol all you'll ever need unless you compete, and even then.

>>42215896
Second this. If you can't get decent size results with even just 750mg of test then either your training ,nutrition or genetics are lacking

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>>42209104

someone explain this study;
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172

Guys who took 600mgs Test-E for 20wks had the lowest incidence of acne, the guys on 50mgs and 300mgs had the most.
They didn't take an AI or SERM...and none reported sexual problems, mood problems or gyno. wtf

Also they didn't work out yet: "Fat-free mass increased dose dependently in men receiving 125, 300, or 600 mg of testosterone weekly (change +3.4, 5.2, and 7.9 kg, respectively)"

In the study, the researchers divided 61 men into 5 groups. Groups 1-4 had 12 men, and Group 5 had 13 men.

For twelve weeks, the groups received the following amounts of testosterone, via injection, each week:
Group 1: 25mg
Group 2: 50mg
Group 3: 150mg
Group 4: 300mg
Group 5: 600mg

For twelve weeks, the following number of people in each group reported acne. (The denominator is the number of people that completed the study from each group):
Group 1: 2/12
Group 2: 5/8
Group 3: 3/11
Group 4: 7/10
Group 5: 2/13

>>42216034
FFMI increase = Water, Glycogen. Everything goes away the second their test levels plummet. Not a lot of it is muscle.

Acne is genetics. Can't read too much into that since its genetics and how your body handles hormones.

>>42209655
200mg is enough

>>42215849
is power lifting just an excuse to look like shit?

>>42216034
>>42216060
> tfw back and shoulders 100% free of acne when on blast
> start cruise
> going well
> 1 month later (probably when EQ left my system)
> acne all over

>>42215896
I don't compete. I'm just talking about injectables only not methylated compounds. If you want to do something other than high test.. keep the test lower.. then you've got EQ, deca/npp and tren a/e.

I see people like
>you don't need to do high test when there are stronger compounds that'll get you better results with less sides
Then at the same time
>No need for 19nors when you're not competing at a high level or prepping
That leaves fucking what exactly? EQ?

Mast, Primo, Proviron aren't exactly what you'd use for gaining mass lean or otherwise.

>>42215896
>dude creatine and protein powder is all you'll ever need

>>42216334
Those compounds are the best at building mass, unless you're trying to bring up a discussion on hgh+slin

Somehow I doubt it though. You just a dumb bitch without much experience

>>42216214
Wowowow

There's not much else that mimics the effects of TESTOSTERONE as far as producing lean mass on a frame?

What the fuck do you want anon. Everything you take that's an AAS is going to be a testosterone analog. If you want designer aas get a biochem degree and develop the next gen sarms

>>42216214
> Mast, Primo, Proviron aren't exactly what you'd use for gaining mass lean or otherwise.

Stop being a little bitch. Those are great for building mass unless you compete.

How many calories below TDEE should I eat on a tren cut?

>>42216411
And tren is best at making you look sexy mr permabulk fatass waterbuffalo

>>42216498
Confirmed retard natty kid, why did i even bother responding

I've just pinned my left quad and of course this fucking muscle had to twitch. I've pinned my right quad 3 days ago and i could hit legs without a problem 2 days later. Im afraid this time might be different.

People who get raging boners on tren (I'm one) does nandrolone do the same for you? Or does it shut your dick down?

>>42216785
Actually on Deca and NPP my boners were harder and also swear my dick is bigger when I'm on nadrolones felt this same thing on my very short tren run.

>>42216784
Went straight throw a little vien this morning with a tren shot. Thought i was going to throw up my lung.
If you can't train legs atleast do your cardio on the bike. Blood flow helps immensely with healing the site and breaking down the oil

>>42216785
I get raging boners on all 19 nors (except for trest which I am to scared to touch). Your dick will shut down if you don't control the unwanted elevated hormones. It's not actually the nandrolone, it's the elevated prolactin and estrogen.

>>42209730
You're young and a fucking vain idiot.

>>42216830
Prolactin and e2 are important for boners, but DHT is also necessary to get an erection, so running high deca with too low test can cause the infamous "deca dick".

>>42209730
I'm an oldfag in his 40's been juicing since 1998. Just do 250mg the first and last week, and 500mg in the 10 weeks in between. Go oldschool, it works.

If you want to throw something in, throw in 20mg of Nolvadex per day. If you want to use Anavar then use a low dose of 20-40mg with 5-10g of Creatine Monohydrate per day.

Creatine and Oxandrolone go hand in hand and I'm surprised that I don't see more people recommending it.

my bp monitor won't be here for a few days. I have funny feeling in my calves since taking anadrol. is there any easy way to ballpark bp without a machine?

>when you leave work and your car got repod

Y-year of kahuna right guys?

>>42216922
Ah okay I didn't realise it was the DHT. I've killed my dick on both tren and deca but I have always come good pretty quickly once i included prami.
As your deca dose goes up do you need a higher test level to maintain DHT or will the normal trt does be enough?

>>42216991
Not him but why include Nolva on cycle?

>>42216867
welcome to fraud newfag

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>>42209104
purplepandalabs.com

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>>42217072
also anyone else constantly want to tweak cycle?

Whatever I run/think about running, I'm always torn about running something else instead. The ride never ends.

>>42217078
TRT should be enough in theory, but as the deca dose increases the chance of it binding instead of DHT also increases, so it might be a good idea to increase the test dose accordingly.

>>42217092
People used to use SERMs for e2 control instead of AI's back in the "old school" days. I'm guessing that's where it's coming from.

>>42217078
>>42216922
>>42216830
I've never used ai, serm, caber, prami or anything on tren.

But I only used 200mg test on tren and 500mg tren. Insane boners.

700mg test though been giving me kinda softer boners. I'm not sure if high e2 because not enough ai or low e2 because too much ai.

If nandrolone can give me raging boners like tren I wanna switch to that and lower the test to 200 and just forget about ai.

>>42217295
I've never heard of anyone having boner issues on 200/500 test/deca, but it's possibly I guess. Try it and find out.

>I'm not sure if high e2 because not enough ai or low e2 because too much ai.
BLOODWORK

>>42217202
Whenever I start a blast I'll look forward to the next blast.
"When I start THAT cycle I'll get the sick gains I want."

Looking forward to my October Tren blast.

When it comes to current blasts, I always want to up the dose.

how hard is it to use letro as an ai?
hmm

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>>42211766
beautiful

>>42217284
Good info, I was thinking about using deca for another blast. Tren just kicks my arse too much

>>42217293
I feared that would be the case, great for masking symptoms lol his phrasing just made it sound as though he was suggesting it had anabolic properties.

>>42217295
good luck but what he >>42217348
said

>>42217412
I always taper up. I think it's a good mentality to start low and only add what you need. Plus I can't imagine the body likes going from cruise to 4 compounds at high doses.

>>42217531
would not recommend it. The extent you you can tank your e and have a bad time with letro is way greater than that of asin. why are you considering it

>>42217531
>>42217798
because it's cheaper for me to get.
aromasin is just too expensive

>>42209560
there are so many things wrong with what youve said. jesus christ

youre right tho. all those pros taking all those drugs precomp in order to drop bodyfat and preserve muscle are all retards. good thing theres /fit/

>>42217854
try ugl aromasin?

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Bois, when does balls shrinkage occur? Im already 4 full weeks into my first test e cycle (500mg/week) my balls still look the same and im still waiting for test to "kick in". I know that it takes up to 6 weeks but im starting to get paranoid thinking that i've got bunk gear

>>42217952
4 weeks and not feeling or seeing any difference?
might be bunk, but i never been on a cycle before so don't listen to me

>>42214464

>>virus
>>cell

No.

>>42214464
Go to the bathroom
Just put a wascloth under the hot tap with the vials in it while you prep your set and clean your shit.

>>42217952
I've gone upwards of 2 grams of test+eq for months with no shrinkage.

I've lost my nuts after 3 weeks of 30mg of Epi.

All depends on your sensitivity to dosing and compounds, and shouldn't be a sign to look for until you've got a bunch of cycles under your belt, knowing what to look for in your own reactions.

>>42217952
my balls get 0 shrinkage no matter what gear i use, unless my estrogen gets high, then the higher the e2 the smaller my balls.

>>42217952
you dont feel any hornier?

So, in your opinion, what's the closest thing I can get to meth in a can when it comes to pre-workouts?

>>42218503
ephedrine literally

>>42209553
This.

I regret not using var to finish my tren test cycle

>>42210015
Good luck

>>42211042
Nice

>>42211293
Lengthening a clitoris via test is due to the fact that women are full of mainly estrogen. Having additional test as a dude will do nothing to grow your dick. It'll shrink yer balls tho.

>>42217202
That pretty much what I did my second cycle I kept adding things in and changing dosages to find what works best but I all I ended up doing was wasting my time and got covered in acne

>>42218450
Not at all. My sex drive is close to zero. If we are talking about gear being bunk i must say that there are minor changes like weight, bit more strength and some new veins slowly coming in. Still no energy or will to live.

also, should i do bloods already or wait 2 more weeks to have full 6 weeks?

bemp

>tfw shoulders are better
>but tfw gf keeps hinting I should buy her a boob job for her birthday

I could but I really don't want to. Imagine how much tren I could buy.

>>42219385
bible is against fake tities

>>42219385
LMAO if you do that you're the biggest cuck in the world. You're getting a FREE upgrade and when she's leaving your ass she will have brand new titties to get titty fucked by the BBC

And beside that; you gf should also have something she is insecure about, especially when's with a beta like you. Otherwise she wouldn't be with you.

>>42218090
A virus needs to exist inside another organisms cell or it's not going to be on a glass surface naturally genius.

>>42217888
You are not a pro, you are a skinnyfat manlet shitposting in a basket weaving forum tho

>>42219444
Bible says nah.

>>42219481
But I want her to get new tits masT. Should I just go halves?

>>42219538
>Bible says nah.
Ask your priest you philistine

>>42219538
bibl is against bitches n hoes and materialistic bullshit* and women in general.

*unless you're giving it to your local paedophile

>>42219538
You think you will be with her forever? In what kind of fairy tale do you believe? The bible?

She being insecure about her small titties is just in your advantage you dumbass.

LET THE BITCH WORK OF HEW OWN MONEY. Is she a NEET? Fuck that shit, you work you ass of while she's at home mirin those new titties and postin them in the Whatsapp group app to her new potential boyfriends.

>>42219576
>Implying I respect the current clergy

>>42219616
You might be right but I still want big titties.

>>42219385
I have a hard time believing this is real

>>42219616
Post yourself shredded again, I lost the picture and I've set you as my goal to surpass.

Also Crusader, this sentence MasT speaks is the truth.
She'll just bail once she has new tits.

>>42219592
What are you? Some sort of commie?

>>42218803
well im also 4 weeks into first cycle 600/week and im literally 10x hornier

>>42219644
>Implying I respect the current clergy
Why are you even catholic?

>>42219674
Sedevacantist Catholic

Pope Francis is the biggest heretic on Earth. Although he's right some times, a broken clock is still right twice a day.

>>42219664
cos test makes you 10x a man

best brain gains sup

>>42219644
Then you find yourself a new gf with big titties. I would never invest money in my gf. You can force her to eat right and train for a good body. But INVEST MY HARDWORKING MONEY INTO THAT PUTA, never.

That's the most cuck shit you can do. Let her work for her own money.They want emancipation, not?


>>42219650
https://forum.bodybuilding.nl/media/users/th0maz.121335/

btw check conversation of the second pic.

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>>42219694
I'm worried I won't find another girl without a gag reflex.

Your gf is cute. Don't leave her.

>>42219694
Mirin'

Thanks man, hope I can outdo you next year.

>>42219538
Fake titties are the worst kind of titties

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>42219743
Only if you get them done ridiculously big with shitty round saline implants by some latino doctor.

>>42219664
feeling anything else besides that?

>>42219743
>says a guy with fake muscles

>>42219711
There is always better and there is always worse. Even when you think that your girl is a 10/10 in every way possible, there is one girl that's better. The same she's thinking about your ass.

Hormones fuck with my mind; one day i think fuck she's everything i want, other day i am thinking she's shitty looking and i should do better. Probably the IRL LIGHTNING AND ANGLES

>>42219718
Sure breh, just believe in yourself. Everything else comes naturally


>>42219743
Not with fat, silicons look like shit yes especially on a skinny girl.

>>42219686
unless its an electric clock in which case its never right

>>42219760
Is that her real hair or is it extensions? If real, am jelly.

Hey guys, I'm trying to get some input on a bulking stack that I came up with:

50mg Test P ED
75mg Tren A ED
75mg NPP ED

Comes out to 350mg/wk Test P, 525mg/wk Tren A, and 525mg/wk NPP. I don't need Caber on 500+ mg of Tren, but I have it on hand in case the double 19-nor thing becomes an issue.

How do those dosages look for a bulk? I'm a Tren fan, but I'm at the point where I need some joint support when lifting heavy on a bulk, so NPP seemed like an obvious choice. The potential for extra mass was a plus, too.

>>42219796
NPP doesn't actually help joints. It masks the problem by reducing inflammation.

>>42219803

Well, I'll take masking the problem over feeling like my shoulders are going to explode every time I bench...

Speaking about plastic surgery. I called the clinic yesterday for my consultation appointment regarding my transformation. SOONEST WAS FUCKING SEPTEMBER

fucking need to stay ugly till that day, it's a sign from ALLAH he wants me to stay ugly.

>>42219794
Real, she got really long hair.

>>42219817
What are you getting done?

gf has started growing her hair out for me because I prefer it long. She also dyed it blonde for me.

>>42218718
This is pretty much the steroid experience in a nutshell

>>42219686
>Sedevacantist Catholic
I learned something new!
>Pope Francis is the biggest heretic on Earth.
He is a lefty peronist scum i agree, still you are a degenerate bb

>>42219826
Ear correction.I hate the not symmetrical ears. You can't see it on pics, but i can see it in the mirror, which concerns me the most. If you look at yourself in the mirror and you're not happy, change it.

WHATEVER IT TAKES to be happy, right faggots. Just be yourself.

My advice;

You ugly? just be yourself
You balding? just shave.

>>42219826
How long is her hair now? I hope it's not dyke short for you.

Blond is shitty. Dark hair and light eyes are best.

>>42219860
Her hair is currently at the start of her boobs. But I want it down to her navel.

Blonde hair and blue eyes is what Hitler would have wanted.

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>>42219892
>turning beautyful dark hair into ugly fake piss blonde

wew

>>42219860
you undergoing a plastic surgery boggles my mind, never expected something like that from you.

>>42219860
>You balding? just shave.

I'd rather hang myself

>>42219757
more veiny, a bit stronger and angrier. Feel pretty good actually but no super pumps or anything yet

>>42219892
Seems acceptable to me.

That's why he died, because nobody liked them anyway.

>>42219933
You would never survive if you would even know what's going through my mind.

>>42219942
It's better to be dead, then being bald

>>42219758
Roids = real muscle tissue

Synthol is fake muscle. Which I do not use.

>>42219813
If it's a tendon issue. Ostarine at 50mg ED was magic for me. Other than that the typical BPC157 or TB500.

>>42219385
Your selective understanding of Christianity and degeneracy really confuses me Crusader. I still like you and all that but man, you're weird when it comes to women.

>>42209191
600mg/week test e.
50mg/day anavar
you was eating at a 300cal surples (natty) started a three month cycle and i gained 22lbs of muscle while losing a lot of bf (about 5%)

>>42220047
I never stated I was a good Christian. The whole point of going to Church is admittance that I am a bad person.

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Don't you guys get tired of having to pin testosterone every week?

>>42220219
I love pinning so I pin daily.

>>42219933
Her natural hair colour is shit. Trust me it's better this way.

>>42220219
it didnt bother me the first 4-5 months but now its annoying yes.

>>42220214
>Only God can judge me teehee
wew lad, how are you trying to correct your crooked way? Because in base of your shitposting here you seem quite proud of being a bad Christian
Pd: post more cuckdiary PLSSSSS

>>42220236
It's really not that bad though. I have a alarm set for every three days at night and it takes me 5 minutes. Throw my vials in a heat blanket while I shower and brush my teeth. Warming the oils makes everything so much smoother

>>42219796
Looks like a decent stack for a lean bulk. Definitely have caber on hand tho.

>>42220280
He's a crazy person in all fairness.

>>42220214
The only purpose of you going to church was to avoid your mental break down and total unwillingless to face, admit to and solve your problems.

>>42220366
Don't be so harsh. Outside of church and /fraud/ it doesn't seem like he had much of a life. I mean if he did he wouldn't have laser focus on his gf. Crusader probably has, like most people, a deep need to belong to something. Church gives him that, even if he's a facsimile of a good Christian. No hate just understanding.

>>42220388
he's a dipshit, his Christianity is just a character.

He's a closet case too

>>42220407
100% agree but I'd use less hurtful adjectives. I just write him off as a weirdo and fun to read. Puts my life into perspective.

>>42220433
I dont dislike him, I just fully understand that he's an arse

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>>42220433
He stopped being fun after he got his gf back, i miss old cucksader

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>>42220489
"The gang comes up with a plan to make Crusader single again"

Operation "Holy Crusade" is a go, gentlemen.

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>>42220280
I'm not a white girl.

Here's more cuckdiary. I can't remember where I was up to so, sorry if it's a repost.

This is only about a quarter of that days' entry.

>>42220336
I think I'm fairly normal.

>>42220366
Semi-correct. I had a mental breakdown and saw solace in Church.

>>42220388
You're not wrong. I don't have friends except for redhead girl. I have friendly acquaintances most the time. People who I enjoy being around at work or Church but I wouldn't invite them to anywhere outside of those venues nor would they invite me.

>>42220407
Are you calling me gay or crazy?

>>42220489
I can't please anyone. Everyone bitched at me to stop when I was crying nightly on here.

>>42220665
>Are you calling me gay or crazy?
They're the same thing, faggot

>>42220621
I may not say it, but I genuinely enjoy your posts.

>>42220698
Thanks mi amigo, I am glad you seem to have the GF thing going for you now. Don't agree with the boob job thing but hey, whatcha gonna do?

>>42220806
I like big tits as much as the next guy but something about fake ones is the ultimate turnoff.

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>>42209104
have there been any recent sightings of bimbo

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>>42218803
Is is possible that somehow my apetite is increasing instead of sex drive? I've ate SHIT TON of food today and im still hungry.

>>42217202
How was rehab? Hows your gf? Assuming its still your gf?

>>42219385
is this exgf or redhead gf.

i missed a lot apparently.

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>>42220665
wait the cuck diary is a real thing? I want off this fucking ride.

>>42220835
Really? I fucking love bolt-ons. My past two ex's have had them, but the current gf doesn't. She want's 'em though.

>>42221188
You lucky fuck, not having to endure this faggotry. You missed absolutely nothing of value.

How does anavar work together with say test+npp?

>>42221298
there is often disputes over lockers and fridge space

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How do you manmores typically hug shorter girls? I'm 6'3 and this girl is like 5-5'2 so it's kinda odd and I have to squat down unless they like to be picked up which I'm all for.

Her arms usually go around lthe bottom of my ribs in the front I guess sternum level. I'm not gonna lie it's cute as fuck though.

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>>42221613
6'4 here. Yeah, you tend to develop slight scoliosis when dating the shorter broads. Just kinda assume the double-overhook position and hug her into your (hopefully well developed, /fraud/) chest.

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Is there ANYTHING out there that you can keep your gains from long-term after cycling off?

>>42221986
Food and training

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>>42222023
very funny

>>42221986
gains from GH

the lean part of your roid gains that isnt water, glycogen, nitrogen retention etc.

>>42222023
Can't you keep your gains from slin? Do you have to also use AAS while on slin or not?

>>42222101
Do you have to use AAS on GH just like I asked about slin?

>>42209104
what kind of degenerate subhuman do you have to be to risk dying to this stuff. my dad works as an ambulance worker and might i say that even i have seen people fall over due to heart failure. have fun being vegetables after 10 years on this stuff

>>42222130
Have fun being dyel for life

How much does drinking history affect oral usage? I don't drink at all (one beer every few months). Does this leave my liver more "unused" than that of someone who drinks regularly? Or maybe less used to strain, and therefore weaker?

>>42222180
>oral gear

bad bad idea very bad

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I belong here now, I started taking my daily dose along with my oats.

I'm no longer natty.

I've started taking creatine.

I'm two weeks into my 20 week cycle, with 6 week oral kickstart

should I get bloods real soon to see where I stand with both or wait til mid cycle when it's just test?

looking mainly to balance AI/E2 and check lipids and liver

>>42222195
retard

>>42222180
the former more than the latter but don't base anything on that idea. I don't think but my liver is absolute garbage and it goes to shit real fast on the more hepatotoxic orals without tudca

Anyone here take DIM for hair gains while on cycle??

>>42222423
Get them at six weeks. Test levels should be good and you'll see how bad the orals fucked you.

>>42209104
Is it stupid to do just Clenbuterol only "cycle"? 23, lifting for three years, 20% body fat. If so, how? Obviously a noob

>>42223531
Clen isn't a steroid. You can do a cycle of clen, some people like it and others don't. It's decent at burning fat but can be uncomfortable. Do more research.

what's the best compound for recovery other than test?

>>42224421
HGH

>>42222788
>DIM
bumpppp

Well fuck

I might be losing my HRT clinic, they might try to kick me out or something

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>>42224710
What happen? Don't be such a tease

>>42219968
>It's better to be dead, then being bald
Well.... this is always the case. Unless you know of skeletons that keep their hair.

>>42224746

I don't know right now

Basically, I had a health issue before starting HRT...

I got started with them and they had been doing my blood work etc.. I had a meeting last week to get my test results, they said there was an issue with the test and they had to take the blood again and I have an appointment tomorrow to discuss my results and options continuing HRT. Here's the odd thing, I got an email today and the info they gave me is wrong and bullshit I think they want to kick me out since my levels might be out of range or something.
Their email makes ZERO sense, I will find out tomorrow what happened and if they "have my results"

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>>42224783
Spooky

>>42224484

is it even worth it to do HGH if you aren't pinning slin and/or other 3 compounds including a test base?

>>42224821
If you have a lot of money and your goal isn't to be a mass monster, then yes.

>>42224821
Define "worth it"

i injected 1 mL subq and I can still feel a lump of oil after a few days

hepl

>>42224903

as in that the money you spend on hgh couldn't have been used on other things that isn't in your routine, but would give you ten times the result

the prices for good HGH is wack, unless you buy Chinese stuff or something

>>42224922

massage it

>>42224809
you were on exogenous amounts around a testing interval?

how important is it to keep your HR until while during lifting? I'm getting 160-180 BPM for a few mins after some of my leg lifts

>>42224978
I think chem said that the chink stuff is gud to go but i have never tried it tbqhf

>>42225000
no this is something else. ill find out tomorrow..

daily reminder that if you did tren at 14 it would have given you a 10 inch cock because of the androgens

I am injecting test at 100mg a week. Should I cycle for the lolz?

>>42225311

Yes, that's the only reason we roid

Well guys it's finally happened new girl is back with her ex, my ex is probably fucking my old roommate and now I'm seeing a new new girl on Sunday but I'm more depressed than ever now. Got paid today so going to be starting that high deca low test cycle now.

>>42225738
>Well guys it's finally happened new girl is back with her ex
well who would have thought

have you learned your lesson yet or are you gonna be a literal, non internet meme, cuck again with the next girl?

>>42225757
Honestly same shit will probably happen texted my ex yesterday to tell her I found some of her stuff and she replied which means now I'm unblocked I guess.

>>42221188
This is exgf.

>>42221226
Yes the cuckdiary is an actual thing.

>>42225738
I feel for you desu

>>42213354
>>42213421
>>42213529
>>42213574
I ended up going senpaitachi, had a good time. Nothing crazy though, just a handful of people getting together. All guys and 1 grill. I knew some of them from before.

>>42213808
>>42213831
I told them I was making crack

>>42221226
What do fake tits feel like? Aren't they not soft and jiggly

Isn't disappointing when they don't bounce around like real ones

I fucked this girl with real DDs for a while and it was pretty awesome.

Advice on first dates with dating app sloots?

Just general tips namsayin. Thanks much love

>>42226156
Just be yourself

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>>42225093
Eh. I got on test at 16 and on a good day mine is 8.2" so maybe. Guess I'll never know.

>>42226201
That goes without saying. You can't do anything but be yourself, since you are yourself.

>>42226156
>>42226201
Anyway I meant along the lines of what sort of first dates do you guys find the most success in.

>>42226478
I invite them straight over because tinder girls don't deserve respect

>>42226485
And you have success with that?

Post physique

>>42222207
Just do var and primo Ace oral instead. Doesn't shut you down in low doses, shown by bloodwork

What the safest thing to take? Im also in gymnastics.

>>42226707
Test

Really want to get bloods done with MUH FREE HEALTHCARE but I am concerned that if I were to affect my career as a doctor. Don't know if they check your medical records or some shit.

>>42225986
I am proud of you bb

>>42226903
LOL yeah you're gonna be a doctor.

I'm on a cycle

Just took a leak a few minutes ago

My urine is extremly dark for some reason and it has never been like this before

I usually drink a lot of water, and I take liver/kidney and some other supplements since I take gear

My fucking urine was so dark, my body started shaking when i saw how dark it was and my mind just can't stop being worried

I just drank another 2 cups of water and in 30-1hr will have another 2 cups of water

Why is it so dark?

>>42226987
fuck

I should have taken a picture and examined it a little more, I looked at it for 10 seconds but i started shaking and ran to get some more water...

>>42226987
Kidney/liver damage or your e2 is wack

>>42226987
what gear are you taking and what liver supplements?

>>42226903
Are you already a med student? I seem to remember you having a job, are you planing the going back to school thing?

>>42227005
>>42227010
I don't fucking know

I am going to wait until my next piss

It is now dark when it was fine all day

I have to be honest, I felt like shit today, like really bad but I thought it might have been stress

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I need another cup of water and see what is going on

>>42227026
You dont know what gear and supplements youre on?

>>42227033
I do know what i am on

I'm fucking trying not to panic, this is the first time my urine has looked that way and i just couldn't stop shaking, i didn't see the urine coming out. I looked down after and was in fucking shock

i am trying to stay calm right nowww

>>42227048
I'm on drol and mine is dark but I should be fine.

>>42227019
I have a degree in the finance/economic area. But I work in a medical role.

>>42227073
What made you not want to stick with the finance? I'm graduating at the end of the year probably going to just do the stock broker gig

>>42227048
tell us what you're on you retard

>>42227085
Because people in finance are degenerates and people in economics are dreary. Love the content, not the people

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>>42227073
>But I work in a medical role.
What you doing bb? Can i be your med student senpai?

>>42227127
I won't say directly but I get to see titties regularly if that's what you want.

>>42227072
I just pee a lot and dont get darker urine on adrol, dont seem to hold that much water either as I would expect (a little but not much).

>>42227048
Tudca can cause liver problems apparently if you preload it and then go out drinking. Ie you preload tudca prior to doing something liver stressful.
https://examine.com/supplements/tauroursodeoxycholic-acid/

>>42227141
Are you still afraid of getting doxed? CMON

>>42227175
It'a not so much I am afraid for myself, I just don't want 4chan freaks harassing my family

>off tren
>nuked estro

Damn its just normal depression

>>42227125
This is so true lmao

>>42227159
i dont even drink!!!!

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>>42226987
Here you go this is about accurate.

If it's not black and it isn't consistently super dark, you're probably fine

>>42227233
you missed the fucking point
>Ie you preload tudca prior to doing something liver stressful.

>>42227207
People in finance are the biggest degenerates known to man. Including the women.

I remember when I worked for a finance firm the boss told me on my first day
>Around here we're racist, we're sexist, we swear, we get drunk and we do drugs. Just don't let any clients know and you'll be fine.

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Ehh

Took a leak, I'm good

Drank 4 cups of water in an hour

Cleared right up

>>42227259
It was like IPA originally but here's the rub

I have stayed hydrated today so not sure how it could be that dark in a couple of hours...

>>42227328
Yea man you're right about the people that work in that industry but I'm no better I suppose lol.

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>>42226936
Thanks bb <3


Something funny that happened was that I was convinced by fraud to go, and then at the party roids conversation ended up popping up. Normies talking about how it will only give you fake muscles thare are only water, and how Animal Pack multivitamin might probably have some steroids in there, etc. Then another guy came along and he actually lifted and the convo of steroids popped up again (without me asking/starting it), and he knew about them and had been on gear before.

It's crazy how things always ended up being connected somehow. Like, life has something strange where things end up threading on one another even if there should be no apparent reason for it.

>>42227363
Metabolic processes are gonna happen and shit mayne. One instance of relatively dark but not close to black piss is not a sign you're having some kidney or blood or liver issue.

Repeated instances yeah maybe go to the emergency room at piss 3-4 still dark, especially if it gets worse. One or two I wouldn't worry unless it's black.

>>42227328
All women are degenerates

>>42227259
i use to drink a lot and my piss was black a couple of times, came out the consistency of syrup too.

>>42227914
Still trying tinder out? I'm about to run through so many freshman when the semester starts. I'm feeling soulless the more hookups I go through though....

>>42227994
I deleted it.
My most earnest one yet, and by far the worst results

Fuck em (but not literally)

>>42228040
You freak out too quickly jerry

>>42228129
I am laughing at the irony.