Why the fuck are ufc fighters not huge in terms of muscle mass.

What are weight classes

because the ufc is fake dumbass

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>>42178476

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>>42178468
What is ss2 you bitch ass faggot

>>42178492
He's a freak of nature. You can't just generalize like this.

>>42178492
IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES

>>42178468
what are quick twitch muscle fibers

Genetic freak athletes go into football or the NBA. UFC fighters are B tier athletes at best, most of them far below that even.

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>>42178476
Current UFC heavyweight champ and hardcore DYEL coming through

>>42178468
because too much muscle mass uses too much energy. pre USADA there were big freaks like Overeem and Lesnar in the HW division but they needed to score in the first 2 rounds because they would gas out quick.

Potato nigger McGregor was quite big for his division as well - but he managed to knock out most opponents in less than three rounds. When he faced Diaz he was unable to do so and he gassed out and Diaz submitted him. Same problem as the HW fighters.

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>>42178710
Genetic freak NBA beast mode engaged

>>42178710
>football
Literally play for 15 seconds and then take a break for 1 minute.
>NBA
Height is the deciding factor for 99% of NBA players because the game changes entirely depending on how tall you are. It decides your positions, your match ups, how easy it is to get blocked, etc.

>>42178744
he has a .2 second shot time
is quickness not genetic?

>>42178744
he looks like a twink

>>42178710
Nigger a lot of the fighters aren't from US, nobody plays football there. And sure, NBA players are genetic freaks, but their freakiness probably wouldn't translate well to fighting.

>>42178786
Only on the most basic level if you want to be completely anal about it. How fast you can shoot the ball depends on your shooting technique and how often you practice.

>>42178784
Football is the largest funnel of genetic freaks in the US. Every year they have tons of hopefull 200+ lb guys running sub 5 second 40 yards, jumping 40"+ verts, crazy strong lifts, amazing hand-eye coordination, and great sense of balance and foot coordination.

>>42178808

Get them into a good kickboxing camp with a coach that will teach how to use their 75 ft arm span with some basic takedown defense and they would do pretty well I reckon.

>>42178813
>anybody could do it

hmmmmm

>>42178744
Hes still a foot taller than you

>>42178488
I bet you think WWE is real though.

>>42178827
>I run forward when the ball is passed and get into a pushing contest with the person in front of me for 15 seconds

>>42178468

Don't got to be huge to be lethal.

>>42178843
For the most part. Look up his age. It's not like he's straight out of high school and shooting like this. He's been an average player for most of his career. Or are you implying that it was genetics which suddenly activated and not that he's been training hard all this time while he was an average player?

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>>42178661
>Freak of nature
Chicken legs and doesn't squat

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god why is /fit/ so stupid.MMA fighters train to fight,unlike bodybuilders who train to be big and look good but are gonna git fug'd over by the dyel mma fighter.
>inb4 weight class
Heavyweight are a joke.

>>42178468
>he still has semi love handles
it gives me hope

>>42178468
It's called an athletic build. They don't care how big they are. They are optimum physique for combat and physical performance.
Also he is featherweight and a lightweight retard.

post yoel

>>42178808
Let me guess, you thought Rhonda Rousey was "the greatest athlete of all time" male or female

>>42178468
because athletes don't bodybuild for girls like you guys on fit

>>42178911
he powerlifts now

If they were 'bearmode' they'd run out of breath by the 3rd round and die of fatigue.

>>42178997
Holy fuck that reaching. I'm not even really a fan of UFC but Rousey was a just a bigmouth cunt that they paraded around cuz muh girl power. Literally who could ever believe a woman is the best athlete of all time.

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>>42178911
He actually does squat.

Also pic related is the same weight as Jones. You can't tell me that Jones isn't just an outlier.

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>>42178468
This faggots tattoos are so stupid.

Endurance is important to them.
And I thought cardio kills gains? At least that's what /fit/ keeps telling me.

>>42179062
You'll fooking do nuthin

>>42178468
they are

you faggots are just on so many roids that you even make roided athletes look small by comparison and you forget what normal looks like

>>42178898
We get it you like the Cavs.

>>42179194
>You'll do fooking nuthin

man, you couldn't even get the quote right

>>42178857
Fact is, they can do it better than everyone else and that's why they're rich and famous whereas you presumably aren't

>>42179194
>>42179238
kek

Most entertaining thing about McGregor is his leprechaun voice

>>42179062
You know what else is stupid? Watching a fake fighting show mainly attended by 10 year old kids with spiky hair and monster t-shirts. Gotta grow up there my man.

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because cardio is more important. there are a couple jacked freaky dudes in mma and they either gas early trying to finish early or they do pic related and go 20% effort the first couple rounds, read opponent and then go mach speed unexpectedly and fuck their opponent royally

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>>42179270
>grow up
>still posting on 4chan
I got bad news for you buddy...

>>42179280
That's the shittiest triangle choke I've ever seen. Literal grade schoolers do better than that.

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>>42179290
Agreed.

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>>42178726
wtf Overeem still fights in the UFC and just won his last match like two weeks ago

>>42179308
there is a point where you got to start defending yourself

>>42178857
you have obviously never played football or any sport i would assume

>>42179315
he almost got KO'd like how he did against Browne

>>42179318
it was over at the first punch

>>42179343
your probably right. He seemed pretty out of it when he hit the floor. But if a guy walks up to you with fists up, i wouldn't just stand there

ITT: faggots who pick things up and put them down very slowly thinking they're physically superior to top tier athletes

Have a sage

>>42179327
did you even watch the fight? he beat Werdums ass but thats besides the point

>>42178476

Hungry skeleton division.
Right between the Starvin Marvins and myproana weight classes.

>>42179367
did you watch the last round. If werdum had not hugged him he could have put away overeem. He did well first 2 rounds(overeem) but the guy is a glass canon

if you ever attend an actual bjj/mma/muay thai gym, you'll see how ripped these guys actually are

there's maybe one or two hopefuls out of shape (including one of the coaches, likely an older retired fighter) the rest are literally monsters

You're better off improving cardio while keeping a decent level of strength. Boxers often get punched a hundred times during a match, doesn't matter if they're weak the damage adds up.

>>42179367
>beat werdums ass

wat? did YOU even watch the fight? Werdum nearly KO'd him and then shot for a takedown like a fucking goober

>>42178492
doesn't he always get suspended for drugs (some recreational, not always PEDs)
and isn't he higher weight class than connor...

>>42178857
t. contrarian faggot

>>42178898
Clearly he killed a family member recently and activated his ultimate bloodline technique.

125ers knockout each other.

You don't need a lot of power to KO someone.
There are certain "weak spots" on the head/jaw that produce loss of consciousness/ disrupted equilibrium, so timing and technique are more often the determinants.
Strength of course can give you the advantage in grappling situations but good technique in that area leads to using less power anyway.

>>42178492

man MC Ride got fucking swole

>>42178492
Don't need mass to poke the shit out of peoples eyes

>>42178726
This man knows whatsup. Even the big guys are at their smallest when you see them ready to fight.

>>42180535
but having good technique also translates to more power or force produced. timing is good too since the other person isn't preparing for a hit.

>>42179915
His most recent was some type of illicit steroid. He's not a freak of nature or anything like some other retard in the thread said, hes a roided asshole who fights with his elbows and fingernails.

>>42178744
Steph Curry is still 6'2 and was probably trained since toddlerhood to shoot with his kind of accuracy


Though he is still a cancer ruining the NBA like the rest of the warriors

>>42180439
My nigga

>>42180711
And muscle memory although people some people say it's a meme.

>>42178911
He squats 500lbs even with those proportions you absolute faggot

Being strong is useful in a fight. Technique, speed and reflexes are all far more important though. I used to kickbox and I'm not that strong of a guy but I was in great shape. I have crazy hand speed for a guy my size though and it was literally like cheating against lower level guys. I could just punch them repeatedly in the face and they couldn't do a goddamn thing about it.

>>42180646
Idiot. Every pro athlete is on gear, the ones that stand out are the freaks of nature.

>>42178947
>heavyweight are a joke
Why don't you fight one then

>>42179315
That's not the point. Check out how he looked before he got caught for eating horse meat and compare it with how he looks now

>>42178786
>.2 second shot time

What do you mean? What is that?

>>42181051
steph curry has an insanely quick shooting motion. It's one motion, his jump and his release. In most NBA players, they jump and cock the ball back then bring it forward to shoot.

Steph Jumps and brings the ball forward into a fluid shooting motion. This is why he's impossible to defend.

Why are jabs the easiest punch to land on a non boxer ?

>>42180963
They're freaks of nature because of steroids lol. I won't try to convince you otherwise because making generalizations like that aren't usually a sign of intelligence, but I will say I hope you endure a world of pain and disappointment through steroid abuse, and one day realize that they aren't all they're cracked up to be.

in boxing, big arms take from ur punching power since they give u contraction power instead of explosive extension power, thats why the biggest the boxer the more unskilled, he is the only boxers who look really big ar those of the amateur grade, since in rookie level booxing tey see a little upgrade of their strenght by adding muscle mass without understanding why, whioput knowing that beyond that rookie level muscle mass in arms is going to be a negative factor to improve punching power.

>>42178960
I think theyre just how his obliques look

>>42179062
Is that David Hayter?

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>>42181286
Sure buddy.
You don't see a lot of boxers with big arms because if you want to get good at boxing you have to box, not lift weights, they don't really have time to make specific muscles growth. The only exercises they do are big bodyweight exercises or polyarticular exercises such as squat or deadlift.

>>42181238
Because they can't into defending their face and jabs are thrown from a range where people most often think they aren't within reach to be hit. A hook or an uppercut requires bigger momentum and more telegraphed movement which gives the opponent time to instinctively react and dodge/block, while a good jab is quick and seems to come from nowhere

>>42178468
yo he got blood on his dick

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>>42180646
He has a 215cm/85 inch reach which is like 7 inches more than the rest in his weightclass, of course he is a genetic freak

The guy fucking outwrestled fat man DC too. You can't be the best fighter of all time pound by pound without being a genetic freak

>>42178492

>LHW
>6'4"
>Bear mode massive

I want all casuals out REEEEEE

>>42181348
Thanks for your answer, I did close to 2 (stopped withing the second year) years of boxing, and I noticed that. Problem is I never really learned to dodge, I just dodge backward or deflect with my hand when a jab come, when I should probably dodge on the side. I want to come back to boxing but I love to spar "hard" and I don't want to get brain damages...

>>42178911
Obviously shooped

Has there been any study on how common a big wingspan is? Like how big of a % has a wingspan 4 inches bigger than their height? And so on

>>42181494
Yeah Google it, wingspan is same as height or around 1 centimetre more on average. Mine is like 5% and then there are freaks like jo jones with 11,5%

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>>42179062
THE GAY COMMUNITY

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>>42181631
>tfw wingspan smaller than height

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>>42178715
he's 6'4" and 245lbs

>>42178911
squats 500, deadlifts 600

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>/fit/ think their muscles are useful in a real fight

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>>42182317
they are

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>>42182347
but they're not

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>>42182369
they are

>>42182347
overeem's mass is 10% roids, you could make around 50k dyel become arnolds in a week just by letting them snort his sweat

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>>42182411
it's just horsemeat anon

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>>42178857
>>42178784

Europoor faggot with weak bait.

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>>42182391
but they're not

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>>42182432
but anon, they are

unless you think a 6'4" 245lb man with striated arm isn't more muscular than 99.9% of people here

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>>42182443

he's dyel and chubby
but the point is anon, why won't you see, they aren't

>>42182464
post your body you fat nerd

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>>42182464
but they are

>>42182464
>chubby
low bf% is completely useless for fighting, other than making weight

>>42182464
>>42182443
that is not DYEL or chubby, are you deluded or just stupid?

>>42182551
>>42182556
why are you retards feeding that obvious baiter?

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>>42182496
but they're not

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>>42182281

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>>42182556
>>42182564

if this was posted on CBT 90% of posters would call him DYEL

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>>42182574
600lb

>>42182589
and if it was posted in /ck/ fast food general it would be deleted as off topic
i dont get your point, but you probably dont too

>>42182599
His legs don't look like they could do 500 what about the calf meme it doesn't even look like he has a calf

>>42178468
He's in the forever a boy weight class. Those guys don't hit hard and peak performance is a very different game to adult male weight classes.

Teddy Riner, the olympic gold judoka, is close to the sort of thing you're talking about.

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>>42182686
and yet this 5'10 fatass reined on top of the big boy division for a decade

>>42182906
fedor was probably at a weight at which he was comfortable. it may have been complementary to his striking (big overhands) and sambo ground game. fedor had great cardio for a HW and could drop the weight easily if he wanted to.

also there is/was the perceived prestige of being a heavyweight (i believe something along the lines of 'that is like winning the heavyweight belt at msg' is still a saying). Bas Rutten never cut weight and sometimes drank extra water to make weight back in the day.

>>42181340
He is far from big, he is just small sized, thats why he looks so stocky, but still far from big.

Boxers, aint big because is not good for fighting, big muscles take out stamina, mobility without giving punching power, the places were muscle matter the most ar back, neck, legs and abs, because those muscles, help with stabily, and with the ability to take punches without bitting the carpet.

Is quite diferent for other sports were big muscles matter more, like american fotball,thats why on those sports, people train the sport and also lift weights.

I do boxing to get better at boxing, but also run and dance, because those sports help u improve ur cardio levels and mobility.

>>42178847
There isn't much difference now-a-days.

>>42182613
broke a guy's arm with a kick tho

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>>42179062
Remember that time the W tried shoving shoot boxing matches into the show, then they brought out an actual boxing legend and he knocked the wwe champion out in one punch?

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>>42179272
Dis motherfucka is one scary guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYPkE5LPKC8

>>42180578
This. Also steroids

>>42185808
he is on steroids btw

>>42179308
i'd like to see those side-swinging niggers go against this guy

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Fedor is bearmode. He looks pretty strong.

>>42186933
Is he Russian?

>>42180535
THIS ^^
Fighting in the ring is all about technique, speed and endurance. Being big does have an advantage, but there is only so much lifting you can do while still having enough endurance to fight.

All of this doesn't mean that you can't lift and do boxing or mma or muay thai, if you are just an amateur.

>>42186933
>tips Fedor-a

>>42185808
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYPkE

Hes shitted his pants and doing a salute, what a classy fine young man

>>42178468
Because muscles require oxygen. There are huge fighters, but that usually ends up hurting their stamina. But at the lower weightclasses it doesnt matter.

>>42178488
>fake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhdQhss8OJk

>>42178468
Because when weight classes exist speed is literally everything. Besides it's been proven KO power is not as relevant to muscle mass as people thought.

>>42181340
the strength this guy possesses is frightening.

>>42178468
Because huge != good at fighting

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>>42181286
This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read.

>Inb4: moves behind you, tough luck kid, bulk reduces speed, muh anime, etc

UFC fighters are deceptively big. I don't know if it's the kind of camera that they film them with, or what, but some of the dudes are jacked. Not just jacked, but rather, strong-jacked, where they are big while also being way stronger than you'd expect them to be even at their size. Jon Jones is a perfect example of this -- dude's bizarrely strong despite being anatomically lanky.

>>42178843
Congratulations, you have learned the ultimate truth of reality. Anyone can accomplish any physical feat they can think of, so long as they work for it.

>>42181273
don't you get that if everyone is using steroids, the ones that are at the top are freaks of nature.

>>42190641
Bulk does reduce speed though you jackass. Just because your gook cartoons might talk about it doesn't make it fake.

>>42178827

>be Army
>new dick is a college grad football player
>training exercise
>clearing buildings
>climb through a window
>new dick falls through giving away our position
>clearing rooms
>new dick throws a grenade into the door frame, bounces back at us
>High altitude mission
>new dick slips and tumbles down a mountain side
>door breaching
>doesn't shoot hinges off the door correctly
>fails to kick door down

In every other respect he was a fucking animal though. Dude was an absolute stud when it came to lifting and running - anything physical.

>>42184579
>Mike Tyson
>far from big

You really must be living in a basement, browsing /fit/ 24/7.
Mike Tyson had the muscle mass of a bodybuilder and almost looked like a big ball of meat.
You are probably only not seeing him as an built, because of all the retarded Manlet threads which tell you that everything under 6'0 can't be considered a muscular being. Your perspective really confirms the delusional insecurities which are spreaded by this board.

TL;DR: MIKE TYSON WAS STACKED LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

LE DURRHURR

>rigorous roid testing in UFC
>sport is largely about endurance as well, excess muscle is inefficient
>fucking weight classes

you win the most inane thread of July 2017

>>42178468
Take Connor McGregor for example. He is a lightweight and at the top of his weight class at 155lbs. If he gained 1 extra pound of muscle, he would be at the bottom of his weight class in welterweight and he would be fighting guys 14lbs heavier than him.

You want as much muscle as you can get without getting too heavy for your weightclass.

>>42178911
Squats make you shorter

>>42191913
Ubereem