Why shouldn't fat people love themselves? I'm confused

>>42174652
We can't let these mentally challenged people influence our children. While they're only harming themselves now, they can be a potential danger to anyone influenceable.

>>42174652
Come on. Who doesnt hate worthless lazy people?

>>42174652
It doesn't affect our lives at all in the US, and channers hatred of HAES and fat acceptance is just a bunch of people who feel ideologically out of step with the mainstream confirming their superiority complexes by pointing out some supposedly liberal "SJW" types being stupid. Which is not hard to find, especially in teenage hotbeds of idiocy like tumblr and socialist twitter.

That being said. If the US follows suit eventually with the rest of the developed world and establishes a more fiscally effective and compassionate single payer or universal coverage healthcare system (which would save us money and increase quality of care if we did it right) then people who are accepting of their chronic conditions and don't do anything to change it could be seen as immoral.

I mean already they tend to cost the healthcare system a shit ton of money by not managing their 'betes and requiring surgeries without often having any sort d way to pay for them. So that drives up healthy people's premiums. But in a socialized system their cost on society is more quantifiable and hate on HAES activists would be way more common and less fringe and edgy.

1. Theyre a burden to society
2. They make their kids fat too by teaching them their bad eating patterns, which imo should be labeled as child abuse
3. Accepting them is like accepting a heroin addict. Both follow the same principles. Doing something thats harmful to your body and can potentially kill you alot earlier just because it makes them feel good
4. Theyre weak minded, society doesnt need weak minded people, it gets the world nowhere

I could probably come up with 10 more reasons why. Its better if we keep bullying and harassing fat fucks, so they feel the urge to either change or kill themselves.

>>42174652
here is the stance that was prevalent on fit about 6 years ago.

If a fat person is fat and is fine with it, more power too them. If they are telling other people stuff like calories dont matter and being fat can be healthier than being not fat then its fair game.

We've changed in the past years to just making fun of fat people which has always struck me as churlish, but i guess its a sign of the times and the difference in posters over the life of 4chan.

>>42174652
>morbid obesity
>perfectly healthy
>morbid

Corrupting the language does affect me, but if you want a less esoteric reason then it's because my health insurance costs more because of scum that refuse to stop shoveling twinkies down their throat even to save their lives.

Does pouring sugar into your car's gas tank count as love now?

>>42174764
Pretty much this.

If you're actually content with how you are, then I don't give a fuck. Be fat as you want. When you make it my problem that you're fat, then I'm pissed. Doubly so if you're lying to people about the myriad health issues that come with it.

>>42174652
>doesen't affect you in any way.
The estimated annual health care costs of obesity-related illness are a staggering $190.2 billion or nearly 21% of annual medical spending in the United States.

>>42174811

Its always your problem. Even if they are content with it. Fat people are like muslims, if theres too many of them in your country, a great number of issues arise

>>42174652
The fuck? Is this the same person?

>>42174724
>If the US follows suit eventually with the rest of the developed world and establishes a more fiscally effective and compassionate single payer or universal coverage healthcare system
>lel

Let a leaf let me inform you of the joys of socialized medicine.
>it's incredibly expensive
It may be "free" but our taxes mire than make up for that
>the people who need it the most use it the least
If you need any kind of medical treatment more than just a routine checkup enjoy your wait. Any surgery will have you waiting months or years. You will literally die waiting for cancer treatment, most people who need surgery go to the US and pay out of pocket. But if you want to experience the joys of socialized medicine in America look no further than the VA system...

>I love my child, thats why I let them run into traffic because they want to
>I love my house, thats why I don't clean it so it can be the way it wants to be
>I love my body, thats why I feed it everything it craves

From my experiance, FPH is more about Fat people either preaching made up science or doing cruel acts to other people because of their size/their entitlements. I don't usually see just "haha you're fat". I don't hate fat people for being fat, fat people are a scourge on health care just like heavy drinkers, smokers, drug users, whores and tons of other unhealthy habits. I hate fat people who are proud of their fatness. Same way i hate people who are proud that they are bitches, or sluts, or anythign else that you should feel shame for and instead brag about. You have a problem, don't pretend it isn't one, and noone will look twice at you.

>>42174935
Costs less for healthy people to cover preventative care for poor uninsured people with taxes than to cover late stage interventions with increased premiums you evidence ignoring retard. Go take an economics class.

Upstream coverage is better than downstream damage control for everyone. You are indoctrinated and probably have a low IQ. That's ok I still don't want you to die of an easily preventable illness because you couldn't afford prevention or management.

>>42174652
Because there is a difference between accepting your faults and pushing them as a baseline for others

>>42175098
Costs a lot less to let them die if they're too stupid to make preventative healthy choices and prioritize insurance. Penalizing people for making smart decisions is immoral and dysgenic.

I don't give a fuck if they love themselves as long as they don't force/try to make me love fat fucks

>>42174652
Nothing wrong with loving yourself, but tricking yourself into thinking that being a lardass is healthy and fine and attractive to others is stupid.

>>42175190
Oh so you'd prefer that poor people die. That makes sense.

I don't think you're mainstream or grounded enough in your sense of ethics for me to tell you why that's fucked up so I'll just say that poor people don't die quietly.

You're asking for riots and death and violence. And someday you or someone you loved would be the victim.

This valueless cesspool is poisoning your mind. I bet you're so depressed and isolated and angry all the time.

>>42174652
sorry guys, but i'd fuck the shit outta that

>>42174652
You shouldn't hate fat people. You're right it doesn't affect you. It is sad to see the spiral of fat parents raising children to fall into the same trap but I am only responsible for myself and others can live as they please. People here get angry and hate fat people because all they do is lift and can't stand people who don't care about their only hobby.

>>42174652
Yes just love everybody no matter what they do. I would love someone to murder my family. There are no right or wrong decisions, just love. All people are worthy of love. No wrong decisions. It's impossible to be human and not worthy of love. Love is deserved just by being born and you can do anything you want after that and still deserve love even if you do something completely destructive and humiliating for no reason other than being weak and a burden to other people.

>>42174880
Oh I see now before and after weightloss/cosmetic surgery

>>42175337
>Oh so you'd prefer that poor people die. That makes sense.
I'd prefer they make proper choices, but taxation is theft. Just because you "need" something does not justify putting a gun to my head and robbing me.

>I don't think you're mainstream or grounded enough in your sense of ethics for me to tell you why that's fucked up so I'll just say that poor people don't die quietly. You're asking for riots and death and violence. And someday you or someone you loved would be the victim.
I don't think you understand ethics desu. People's reaction to something has no bearing on whether or no it is ethical. Just because they would riot does not mean that we shouldn't do what needs to be done. Theft is unethical. Just because a thief would react badly has no bearing on what is ethical.

>This valueless cesspool is poisoning your mind. I bet you're so depressed and isolated and angry all the time.
Quite the opposite. I'm actually surprised how you managed that. 4chan has improved my life immeasurably.

>>42175563
You're not even a libertarian. You're an edgy teen. Once you enter the professional world and have some investment in a sane society you will feel differently.

>>42174724
You said it yourself, they already cost healthcare a shit ton. So why would people suddenly view obesity as immoral when they're already a drain?

And it's not as if countries with socialized medicine aren't dealing with obesity crises of their own.

>>42175817
Because of the more direct and measurable relationship between unmanaged chronic illness and healthcare costs, also because of the increased ability for increased opportunity for sick and poor people to get help.

The difference (oversimplified and cheesy I know) if someone steals a loaf of bread to feed their family, vs if someone steals a loaf of bread to feed their family despite there being a free bread center for low income people down the block.

If fat people had to pay extra taxes and I got tax breaks for being active then I would be all for fatties killing themselves with food

>>42174652
I'm fit and I still hate myself so fuck fat people.

>>42174652
No problem, but other people seen to hate fat people and people who are hated find it kinda hard to love themselves

>>42176128
kek

>>42174724

>It doesn't affect our lives at all in the US

Except that we have socialized medicine and I pay for the health issues of these fat fucks.

>>42174724
Haha fatty fat fuck nobody will ever love you.

wrong, you're disgusting, and I have to look at you. I have to be part of the society you are as well, thinking that every person is an individual that has no effect on one another is retarded.

>>42176234
Kek alright bud hmu when you hit 4/3/2/1 in three years

>>42174652
You can love yourself as much as you want but the problem still lies in that no one else will, because no one thinks you're attractive, or as attractive as the competition.

>>42174746
This. I would also add that we need to bully them so that they are not allowed to breed

But most FPH stories do involve the subject of the story affecting the storyteller in some way, whether by criticizing their own more fit lifestyle choice or through some other toxic behavior. I don't think I've ever seen a FPH that was just "Today I held the door for a fat lady and she smiled and said thank you, god I hate fatties so much"

>>42174652
Not hating yourself : great

Loving your body even if it's unhealthy: sure, fine

Deluding yourself into thinking your unhealthy body is actually healthy : fuck you