/fraud/

First for lolis

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The Tren/Mast/Sdrol is here bois

some former teammate of mine whos a year older, called me a fatass despite him being obese when I knew him. Ive been lifting and hes been being a 150lb little fucking manlet bitch boy. I challenged him to a competition and I can't wait until I beat him or (most likely) he pussies out. Fucking little twerps talking shit.

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>>42119640
>summer is halfway done and you're STILL not shredded? edition

shut up

>>42119936
lmao you're fat

try beating him at running and not lifting while being 3 times his weight, fatso

>>42119972
hes not a runner

hes a collegiate swimmer on a fucking no-cuts club team. Hes gonna get fucking smoked because hes a high estrogen bitch boy.

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Waiting on DNP in the mail. Very excited to run a 2 week cycle and see how much I can lose

>>42119936
Are you a fatass anon? Why did he say that?

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>>42120036

Run it for longer at a lower dosages for minimal sides.

Or bump it to 500 and psmf away lose 1lb a week

>>42120036
>see how much I can lose
your life

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Been off cycle for 3 months, i actually came off really well and kept making gains afterwards. My first cycle was just test e for 18 weeks, i look forward to next cycle so much i want to hop on the tren train. My buddy said not to do it for 2nd cycle though, any opinions? Maybe deca? Or should i stick to test ?

>>42120299
lol

>>42120257
>1lb a week
>500 dnp + psmf
lmao

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>>42120036
500mg aint bad if you're hydrating, getting electrolytes, use a sleep aid, and most importantly just accepting the fact that you're gonna be hot and sweaty. I like to roleplay in my head that I'm on a different planet with intense heat

>>42120416
Probably meant per day

When I hit 10-11% I'mma run it 500-600/day with a moderate frontload and psmf. Just sacrifice a week, see what comes out the other side.

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>>42119640
Not sure senpai

Really feeling like adding in tren e to my current cycle and running that for a few weeks

:)

I cheated on my gf saturday and now I'm having a problem: the new girl fell in love with me and wants me to date her. I thought it would just be a one time thing and it'd be over but things are starting to go wrong.

I'm seeing her again tonight, what can I do to make her start disliking me and make her want to ghost me?

>>42120627
Take a fuckload of dbol or trest and get your estro really fucking high and then just be yourself

didnt summer officially start like 2 weeks ago senpai

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>>42120257
>>42120423
Planning on 200-400 mg (depending on the sides) I should have enough left for another 2 week cycle in the winter. I only plan to lose 10-12 pounds

I've been waking up dehydrated af in the mornings. first week of my kickstart, taking 50mg anadrol with 500mg TUDCA. is it ok to drink a bunch of water (stereddit said this was bad) or should I decrease my dose to 25mg?

>>42120743
>stereddit said this was bad
wtf

no you need to drink a SHIT TON of water if you're on orals

>>42120299
>>42120326
The picture was a joke, but what about tren for 2nd cycle?

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call me a fucking retard but i started doing a Xeno androgen cycle just yesterday
i'm 19
5'11
and 130lb

how much i'am i going to fuck up my life

pic related

>>42120956
you realize this is bunk garbage right

>>42120956
Don't you ever shitpost in my thread again

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I keep forgetting im on orals and drinking.
Im just going to drop the orals

>>42120956
>>42120979
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AXenoandrogen

> This stuff, 'Xenoandrogens', are a scam. There's a specifc company based out of Eastern Europe that is marketing these 'Xenoandrogens' and they do not list the active ingredients in any of their products. These scamming bastards have also infiltrated Wikipedia to make up bullshit references in order to draw people in to buying into this shit. They made up scientific references and even registred a fake endocrinology journal website.
>These "studies" about modified tocopherols/tocotrienols linked on Wikipedia and the fake endocrinology journal website (http://ej-endocrinology.org/) can not be found in their respective journals. All the 'info' on that fake EJ site is c/p from other sources, except the info about xenoandrogens. So it looks like modified tocopherols/tocotrienols usage as xenoandrogens is a marketing hype made up some East-European criminals.
>Chemically it is also almost impossible to have 'Xenoandrogens' (AKA Phytoandrogens, just like Phytoestrogens). The reason why there are all kinds of Estrogen analogues and Phytoestrogens out there that can be found in foods, plastics, plants, etc. is because anything with a phenol functional group on it will have some binding affinity to the Estrogen receptor. Androgens are very much chemically different and have no unique functional group like Phytoestrogens do, which bind well to the Androgen receptor and are somewhat ubiquitous in nature and in soime synthetic materials.
>Xenoandrogens are a scam, they don't work, they don't even exist. Stay away from this shit.

>>42121142
Crafty little fuckers those east european gypsies

But who in the right mind would fall for misspelled roids. Must be the vegans

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NATTY KING 2017

>>42121626
Second half of 2017 year of KAHUNA?

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Getting worried

Run a cycle while being a fat fuck
Begin losing a little bit of weight
Up to 12 weeks now on cycle and I'm continually dropping weight like a mother fucker right now
More than I think is normal, feel fine, nips are good
test conversion should be fine, but the weight is beginning to fall off of me

Basically I do work out
Follow my b/c cycle
I also do IF and eat at a 6-8 hour window and I'm dropping weight..........

>>42119640
>this woman looks like a raging cunt

>>42121626
You aren't dead and you don't have gyno but that jawline took a hit

Noob here, literally just started reading into this today.

Thoughts on HGH vs. Test? Based on the wiki here, it seems like HGH has lower risks/side effects?

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/growth_hormone

Also apparently (according to same wiki) some level of penis/testicle growth isn't uncommon on HGH, which can't hurt.

I'm only 23 so not planning on doing a cycle for another couple years, but curious about this. I also like the idea that after test use, even if you stop the added nuclei in the muscles remain...

Lots to consider, but mostly curious about HGH vs Test. HGH is mostly what I'm considering now.

>>42121847

HGH runs thousands a month whereas Test runs less than $40 per. HGH causes intestinal growth and enlarging of the heart which in non-reversible whereas Test causes temporary high blood pressure and raises Estrogen. HGH has a half-life of four hours and has to be injected once a day MINIMUM whereas Test can be injected once every other week pending on the ester. Most sources of HGH that are synthesized by underground labs are horribly under-dosed and mixed with unknown chemicals whereas Test is so cheap, easy to brew, and readily available that it's not common to find it cut with other compounds.

Unless you're rich, have access to pharmaceutical grade HGH (which would require being rich to convince a doctor to prescribe it or paying a cancer patient that was okay with not using it), like injecting daily, or are okay with spending hundreds a month to inject cooking oil into your body, HGH is an ungodly stupid idea.

>>42121931
Thanks. According to the wiki, every-other day with HGH is also an option, but in general I get the point.

Thanks anon.

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>>42119640

Someone please give me a 8-12 week cycle and post cycle breakdown...

For somebody on Finasteride (Propecia)!

Halp!

>>42121847
both if you can afford it. hgh in its own is a waste

>>42120743
RIP kidneys

>>42120299
You take steroids?

>>42120627
Are you 16 years old?

>>42121931
Generic hgh has gotten pretty good anon.

Ghrp+ipamorelin is also pretty good (for an amateur bber) and very cheap

>>42121847
Look into peptides.

But honestly nothing beats aas
Why wait until 25? Do you really think some arbitrary age distinction matters?

You aren't a teenager, your life is hopefully in check, you're not really going through significant development by 23, and if anything that extra testosterone for 22-25 might help.

>>42122044
Wait, this is supposed to be normal though right? I also wake up dehydrated but no real health issues

I get blood work done often and have my kidney/liver etc.. checked out

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>>42121705
HALF YEAR OF KAHUNA

2018 COMING SOON

>>42121820
I ALSO SHAVED MY HEAD SKINHEAD BALD WHILE LIVING IN LOUISIANA AND IT LOOKS BAD

QUADS COMING UP THO

>>42123121
>Why wait until 25?
cause the reddit wiki everyone boasts about linking here says so

>>42119640
Jokes on u it's winter here

>>42122073
no

p.s. we just had sex again and she's even more in love than she was before

>>42123668
>Not making informed decisions for yourself based on available evidence

>>42124365
Lol @ coming to 4chan to get information for decision making

Just lol @ ur life

>>42120627
>>42123926
Stop fucking cheating on your girlfriend you piece of human fucking garbage. Or better yet, tell your girlfriend and let her make the decision to either stay with a piece of human shit or not.

I fucking hate people like you.

>>42123479
Welcome to the the skinhead gang bro 1488

>>42124740
Actually it's a fuckdup thing to do indeed. Monogamy doesn't exist. Like you are thinking about how it would feel to fuck that other fresh pussy or squeeze those tits, she is also thinking about how the bbc would fill out her pussy. It's inevitable.

I am seriously thinking about doing it, but i am scared i will end up like you or Bimbo crying like a pussy because i miss muh ex

>>42125431
seek help for your niggervfetish it's unhealthy

>>42125455
SEEK HELP FOR BEING DYEL AND UGLY

it's unhealthy

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Why can't i achieve this level of nartty shredss anymore. I am doing the same as then with even more cardio.

Then i wasn't even doing cardio because i was scared to lose gains.

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Hey fellas, I had jaw surgery a couple weeks ago, wherein my lower jaw was cut off and re-attached in another position. A bone graft was taken from my hip to fill in some gaps.

Now I've been off gear for a while before the surgery, to avoid any complications. But man, do I miss the sweet taste of tren cough in the morning.

Recovery is advanced enough that I can eat normally and start lifting again. My question is, will roids negatively affect the healing process of the bones? I found mostly conflicting opinions online. One thing that is often mentioned however is that E2 is important for bone repair, so I'll be gentle with the AI.

>tl;dr jaw surgery a couple of weeks ago: ok to roid?

>>42125585
don't be a fucking moron. let the jaw heal completely first.

>>42125585
Maybe 200 test 200 deca/npp for healing purposes?

>>42121745
She is, ask bimb's

>>42125566
Unholy shit what flavor of juice do i need to achieve this mode

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>>42125757
I was never able to achieve it anymore since I am roiding.

I can you that's it's very addictive to look in the mirror and see those ab veins appearing. I could just look all day at those veins. Those were the good times.

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>>42124740
t. girlfriend took a break to try some other cocks

rather than asking a medical professional

I want to take antibiotics for face acne, shouldnt be a problem on cycle right?

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>>42119640
All right, lay out to me straight, /fraud/: how many people who push decent amount of weight actually roid? I still haven't handed in my natty card after 5 years, and I consider my lifts to be relatively decent (210, 170, 240, 110 OHP at 90, all in kgs), but then I see even female IPF competitors in heavy weight classes squatting 200 and pulling 240.
At the same time, I remember that I have shitty genetics (used to be skinnyfat, couldn't even do 10 push ups from the floor when I was 16 and first stepped into the gym), and this is exactly the part which makes me doubt if competing athletes are on gear.
So what is it, /fraud/?

>>42126084
>comparing yourself to girls to prove that athletes don't roid

You are a special sort of retarded

People on fin, how does it feel that you can't use deca?

>>42125431
Get on tren, kill the feels

>>42125790
>I was never able to achieve it anymore since I am roiding.
Seems Canary was right when he always told you about being lean is harder than just big and bloated

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>>42126544
No i will turn into a pussy if i use that shit. How do i cheat without getting caught?

>>42126556
I am currently not bloated at all. I am talking about bodyfat not about bloat

Low carb and low test + mast never makes me bloated. Arms i can get shredded to that point again, but that crazy ab vein action never returned. Maybe because i was still in school by then, had more time to sleep en rest.

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hey guise, whats a first good cylce? asking for a friend who need to know for science

>>42126623
campagnolo are top tier

First cycle babby here. Not even 3 weeks in of simple test e blast and my weight has gone up 10 lbs. Is this normal or maybe im delusional and i can't see how much food im eating?

>>42126623
consider killing yourself

>>42126715
wouldnt that make me lose gains though

>>42126670
Campy!

>>42126670
No this isn't normal

>>42126587
You usually end up getting caught

>>42125914
Don't combine antibiotics with orals. Other than that its fine

>>42126833
>No this isn't normal
This is weird. My weight was fluctuating before (as expected) but since my first pin scale is showing higher numbers every single day. It never shows anything below previous numbers.

gal if you are lurking, i just used my last serbian olive oil. i miss you pls come back :/

>>42126908
Gal died in a luge accident

>>42126930
too soon dude, too soon

Gf says she thinks the tren makes her extremely horny around me. I went off during my shoulder injury and then when I went back on she told me that she started wanting sex a lot more.

I thought the whole "girls can smell tren" thing was a meme.

>>42126894
Could be water my dude. Are your lifts going up?

>>42127076
lifts went up a bit but i guess it's only because my weight has increased

My face is not bloated, vascularity is better but my abs are fading away (there were already fading away before i started gear so im not sure)

Hey how many mg of the pumpkin seed shit do I need and also saw palmetto mg because day 4 of the drol and I'm shedding really bad in the shower.

>>42128351
Holy shit didnt know you can bald from abombs.

>>42128434
I'm gong to be losing my hair anyway eventually but I want to slow it as much as possible, fuck propecia though that shit made me feel dead and my dick limp.

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What dose of adrol do you guys like best? I was probably going to try 75mg today because I felt like epi was kinda underwhelming even at ~100mg prewo.

Ever gotten any acne or gyno sides from drol?

>>42126670
>>42127076
upon further inspection i've noticed that my lower gut seems bit bigger and it seems like i've got more fat/water on my lower back. I don't know if i should try to cut a bit before test kicks in or i should keep everything as it is and hope that test will make me leaner.

>>42126623
Who is this semen demon

>>42126623
Who's the cock murloc?

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Do you guys know if I can buy shit from GPZ med lab using pic related? If not, do you know where I could use this card to buy needles, syringes, and alcohol wipes?

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>>42129083
Also, this was the response I got after asking them if I could use the OneVanilla MasterCard, but the part where they talk about the billing address and issuing bank makes me think the card won't work, because you don't attach a billing address to this card and a bank doesn't issue it to you.

>>42128563
>Ever gotten any acne or gyno sides from drol?
lol yes

I hope you have nolva on hand cause AIs don't do shit

>>42126623
Who is that sexy harpy?

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>>42129187
I figured acne but I've heard several guys get gyno fast as shit which sucks. I'm doing 90mg of ralox 2x a day anyways so hopefully that will keep it off or I'll just stick to finishing my epi. I kinda wish I would've gotten more var and some sdrol.

>>42129386
I've never heard anyone ever say they like var more than epi, you're a weird dude

1-Would it be ok to buy from localbitcoin with steam cards (as it is totally untied to any bank account and stuff)

2-How to check the source exchange rate? Because I dont want to check out and find out that I don't have bitcoin enough because of exchange "tax"

3-I heard Nolva is not compatible with arimidex. Is it true? I could buy aromasin instead but its like three times the price.

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>>42129600
Really? I love the vascularity from var.

>>42121732
Did you not read the wiki? Get to <15% bodyfat before doing a cycle retard. Do a stack of over the counter supplements and high protein no carb diet if you wanna burn fat quick. I recommend primatene/aspirin/caffeine/berberine/egcg. Or do DNP if you wanna be edgy.

Start the cycle as lean as possible and then few weeks/months cutting whatever fat gained (through a psmf maybe) or doing a bulk cycle and then after a few months a cut cycle?

>>42129756
my advice. Do a bulk blast and then a 250 mg cruise for maybe 2 months to get rid of the fat

staying on longer for a tad bit doesnt hurt

>>42129654
who dis

>>42129654
more brap posts please

>>42129617
1. Yes, if you're fine buying stuff higher than the source exchange rate
2. Google or Coinbase, which you can also buy bitcoins from at the source exchange rate

>>42129779
not him but, 250mg cruise on maintnence calories will do the trick or you have to be in a deficit?

>>42129600
Good Var is the best roid for just looking good and mental effects imho.


On a non related note, don't any of you ever regret starting roids?
I love em, but part of me feels like I've lost some form of purity. I'm genuinely a good guy, for better and worse but ever since being on for a longer period I feel tainted.
This normally never bothers me, but knowing how innocent some people like my little sister and girlfriend are I feel like a piece of shit degenerate scum for being on drugs 24/7.

>>42129779
I don't have any idea about b&c, but by what you tell me it could be something like this, right?

15 weeks @ 600mg/w on bulk diet
6 weeks @ 250mg/w (2 weeks manteinance, then psmf until all fat gone)
4 weeks PCT nolva 40/40/20/20

>>42127059
It is a meme, my best guess would be the increased aggresion/confidence.
Its a hormone, not a pheromone.

>>42129931
>I love em, but part of me feels like I've lost some form of purity
You left humanity behind

>>42129654
did you buy the epi capped or did you buy raws? cause real epi is literally just better var

>>42129931
ever tried epi?

>>42130034
Legit Var > Epi any day.
Var is my go to, would run it year round if I could.

>>42120423
I did a week of 400 and a week of 700 right after that. Lost 10lbs, got abs for the first time in my life. Its not that rough. The night sweating was the worst part. Everything was soaked. Every morning.

Off cycle, went broke sometime ago.

I have 12 days left till my paycheck and I literally have no food or money, not even a single cent left.

I do have free fruits in my office so I wonder if i should occasionally eat fruits and just starve the whole 12 days or attempt fasting and actually shut down my metabolism down for good for 12 days (i heard the first 3 days were hard but after that you stop being "hungry" or someshit)

What do? No gains to lose either and could lose a few % of fat desu.

>>42129848
>>42129822
>>42128993
>>42129008
>>42129226
samefag fuck off

>>42130060
you didn't answer, have you ever tried epi?

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>>42129910
>not him but, 250mg cruise on maintnence calories will do the trick or you have to be in a deficit?

>>42130274
>implying I'm giving you answers without trying both.

Var is better for me, I love Var, I respond amazingly well to Var. The only downside would be price I amagine.
Ran the Epi with Test for 8 weeks during a bulk. It was okay, but not what I want.

>>42130329
>I respond amazingly well to Var
In what way? I've read that it upregulates androgen receptor expression so was thinking maybe it's a good idea to run at the tail end of a blast or something.

What doses did you run and did you also take anything for liver support? I've read it can be harsh at >50mg even though I also read something that said that it's not liver toxic since it's broken down/cleared in the kidneys. Like, in a paper or something not just a forum post.

Considering buying var and proviron raws since these seem like the most interesting and least harmful orals, which is why I'm interested in your experience with var before pulling the trigger.

>>42126084
Weak fag

>>42130413
Vars good
Weak if you're a guy, I ran ~75-100mg a day for months
Proviron is the weakest thing ever and is a total meme

>>42130297
who the fuck are you with your useless answers? If you're going to namefag, don't be a cunt

>>42130413
Var brings a cut look to my physique, to the point where it gives an obvious roid look.

I run Var at 80mg, ussually stacked with a 19-NOR and test base. I drink caffeine while on for that added benefit, studies also suggest it increases Var effectiveness.

As for liver, while its not exactly healthy, the worst I've had it at was after 14 weeks of reckless use. Which was only a mild case of "stop or it might turn out bad". Dbol hammers my liver way harder.
Kidneys are fine really.

I mostly like Var as an anti depressant.

>>42130229
pls somebody respond

To anyone naysaying epi, what doses did you run it at? 75-90mg of epi is like 350-500 tren for me. Hard, dry and strong. One of my favorites next to msten.

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2 weeks of dnp.

>>42130465
Your question is retarded you need a deficit to lose weight, happy now?

>>42130520
Woah it burned away all the muscle?!?

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>tfw constant test flu
seriously wtf is this shit i never had this before i feel like shit everytime i pin

>>42130533
thanks guy :(

>>42130549
Placebo, its all in your head.

>>42130564
Sorry man, why are you running dnp tho?

>>42130520
i love when retarded fat kids who don't even bodybuild get the idea to use DNP thinking they can handle it

best part is when they start the binge eating after a couple of weeks

repeat a few times and fastforward a bit, you have them posting on reddit acting like DNP experts for being on their 20th dnp cycle while still being fat as fuck with 0 muscle because they just keep dnp cutting + binging

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>>42130448
>Proviron is the weakest thing ever and is a total meme
Thanks jerry - I had read rave reviews on gh15 about proviron turning you into a dry hard sex god but I trust you more sounds like I got meme'd.

>>42130470
>I mostly like Var as an anti depressant.
Oh, cool. I like that you specified that - now I'm definitely getting it to see what you're talking about. Tried benzos but they just wipe my brain.

Do you split the var doses into 40+40 btw? Seems like a thing a lot of people do, but I go to the gym in the morning so I'm thinking of just taking 50mg ED pre-workout once and then upping the dose to 100mg ED for the last few weeks.

Would be in conjunction with test only blast, but good to know it stacks well with 19-nors

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How true is this

>>42130528
not even my question, cunt. just love when it's babby's first namefagging day and all of a sudden they're a big deal. you're utterly new here, put your dick away.

>>42129931
I regret not starting earlier

>>42130660
Based upon Var's half life I split it up in 20mg morning, 40mg middle of the day and 20mg before I hit the sack.

Var makes me happy, like how Tren shortens my fuse Var does the exact opposite. I'm generally a pleasent person down to the point where people asked of I hopped on Var again since I'm so nice while on.

>>42130695
Don't we all.

>>42130717
Not if you regret starting.

>but knowing how innocent some people like my little sister and girlfriend are
Lol

>>42130686
You are free to try recomping in a low dose of test if you want, it's still retarded no matter how mad you get bb

>>42130660
It might do that at huge enough doses but at that point save money and go tren mast winny var no test get serious dry

>>42130465
Kill yourself fat fuck

>>42130739
I'll be staying on but there are these tiny sprinkles of feeling down for shoving needles up my ass.
My girl is incredibly naieve, she never has any hostile or harmfull feelings towards anyone. Something I've got plenty of lately.

>>42130900
>she never has any hostile or harmfull feelings towards anyone.
Even worse, she has loving feels towards the bbc.

Ask mast he is an expert

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>>42130934

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>>42130699
>Im the nicest guy youll meet

>>42130900
>and the darkest adversary youll face

>>42130900
I suggest you lower your dose, you're getting the pussy beta cuck side effects i also got. It was a nightmare feeling

>>42130934
Once you go black..

>feels towards bbc
implying she didn't had some bbc before and during the relationship.

most woman lie about how many dicks she had before you because she don't wanna come over as a hoe.

>>42130961
>most woman lie
All women.

Are you becoming a feminist?

anyone else get so much pump it feels like the skin is gonna burst?

>>42129910
you cant lose weight at maintenance lol

>>42129954
this is not B&C, just a slightly extended cycle
16 weeks blast
cruise 8 weeks, so you have enough time

>>42130999
Ye, dedicated an entire day to forearms, felt like they were gonna explode if I got so much as a paper cut the next day. And for some reason, my biceps have been pumped for a solid 3 days now, even though I haven't been to the gym at all.

thesis: you meet a new girl, you love her to death and start a relationship with her. But after a while you find out she had some thyrone bbc before you.

what do?

>>42130988
You already found some of that feminine penis jerry

>>42125585
If you're okayed to work out I don't see why not.

>>42130448
>Proviron is a meme
Proof that you've never made it to shredded.

How come no one posts their bodies but mast?

Do you all look like shit?

>>42131032
If I drop from 500 mg / week after 16 weeks, what's a good cruise dose for most people? And how soon after my last 500 mg week is it probably safe to drop the AI?

>>42131050
Break up with her probably

>>42131134
Most guys posted bodies more then once. Blame your ADD.

>>42131134
'Cause I'm taking Ligandrol instead of an actual steroid so I still look DYEL as fuck.

>>42131134
dyel & scared to face the truth.

>>42131050
Keep fucking her until I find a replacement, just use a condom

>>42131142
I don't religiously follow these threads but seems like I only ever see mast post

I mean there was 2 other dudes in this thread who posted their bodies and they both look natty?

>>42131134
Gyno and 15% bf so yeah I look like shit.

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>>42131134
>

>>42131134
Yes

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>>42131196
>

>>42131196
How tall are you?

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>>42131215
>

>>42131132
Ok post your sick proviron shreds

>>42131134
Other people got my pic from a

>>42131219
>
5'11" master race, emporer of manlets, courtesan of lanklets, the balance, ying and yang, the avatar.

6' subhuman in shoes, so i prefer walking barefoot to stay part of the master race

If I have POTS syndrome, would I be fine taking testosterone, Aromasin, and Nolvadex? My doctor said I would eventually outgrow it in my 20's.

My main symptoms are an increased heart rate when standing (which is relieved by sitting down) and sometimes after eating, feeling all the blood rush away from my head when standing sometimes, and it might make my blood pressure high. It also causes blood to pool in my feet when standing, and it makes them red and my veins swell, same with my arms and hands.

My standing blood pressure on Tuesday was 102/78 with a heart rate of 132, lying down was 124/73 with a HR of 88.

Wednesday was 121/97 with a HR of 118, lying down was 125/77 with a HR of 74.

And today, it was 103/63 with a HR of 143 while standing, sitting was 117/73 with a HR of 90.

quick reminder that if you're holding btc right now you should dump it all.

>see mom for first time in a while
>"You look fat"

WELP FUCK THIS BULK THEN MOM
>goes upstairs and injects an additional 250mg for the week

Adding in tren next order and hitting high rep ranges starting today fuck her opinions

>>42131175
It's not that easy; she is the love of your life a 10/10 in every possible way. She cannot be matched with a replacement.

>>42131297
thats a meme, bitcoin rises and rises, the big short term drops dont mean anything

>>42131332
no, it's not a meme. you have no idea what's going on.

if you have btc right now you need to dump it or you'll be really fucking sad on August 1st

>>42131332
>he doesn't know about segwit
https://bitcoin.org/en/alert/2017-07-12-potential-split

if you're holding, sell. you can rebuy in about 3 weeks if you're still confident in the long term, but it WILL drop by minimum 500usd, probably way more.

for those who just bought some and are waiting on whatever to order their gear, you're affected the most

>>42131375
>At Mon Jul 31 2017 17:00:00 GMT-0700 (PDT), Bitcoin confirmation scores may become unreliable for an unknown length of time. This means that any bitcoins you receive after that time may later disappear from your wallet or be a type of bitcoin that other people will not accept as payment.
So if we buy it and pay our sources before the 31st then we're good right?
I was probably gonna buy some on the 19th

>>42131453
if you have to have bitcoin between now and then, you need to buy and immediately send it to your source, don't wait for days. the value of bitcoin will fluctuate like crazy on a day-to-day basis

>>42131488
Would a day be fine? Cause I don't know how long it'll take for the source to get back to me after I email him, and you're supposed to have bitcoins ready before emailing him.

>>42131196
people roid for THIS. There should be a documentary on roiders focusing solely on their insecurity.

>>42131585
if it makes you feel better, he looked exactly like that pre-roids too

>>42131598
so you guys shrink your balls to preschool levels for what exactly???

>>42131585
Post body fatass kid

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>>42131577
this is the fluctuation of bitcoin in the last 24 hours.

the closer we get to the end of the month, the crazier it'll get. so, probably not, no.

>>42131648
lol im a grown ass adult bro if you take selfies and you in your 20s you got to look in the mirror and ask yourself if you made it past middle school or not.

>>42131649
and when I say no I mean buy at least 125% of how much you need and hope for the best

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>>42131700
>lol im a grown ass adult bro
>shitpost in 4chin
wew

>>42131700
that's an original way to deflect

nobody asked for selfies. you have friends, right? you show off your body at the beach, don't you? show us your sick facebook pictures

When did so many people on /fit/ turn into frauds? Looking through CBT and half the guys are on gear within a year of lifting

>>42131598
yeah bro i looked exactly like that before, just 14 kg lighter right?

kek iks dee ebin memes

>>42131937
>implying anyone can tell the difference between you pre and post roids

>>42120627
/adv/ dumbass

People want easy.

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>>42131649
>>42131702
Well fuck
Couldn't you just buy like $210 worth once it hits rock bottom and then send that $210 worth of BTC to your source?
Will it crash down to like $30 a BTC on the 31st? Will it ever come back up to $2500?

why is mast so obsessed with black dicks

>>42132351
He's insecure, basically

>>42131358
what's happening with this bitcoin shit? i have enough gear to last me 5 months or so if needed so I don't need to buy right now thankfully

>>42131050
My oneitis back in the day didnt fuck one, but 2 thyones.

U mirin

>>42131050
lose any and all attraction instantly, act normal until you leave her house/wherever she told you (so she doesn't start spreading shit about you bein RACISS), drop all contact with her instantly, make myself vomit a few times and immediately get tested for all stds (if you don't leave her and get tested at the very least you are a fucking cuckold)

fucking disgusting

also if you had a daughter or son with her, she would encourage them or at least be ok with them FUCKING NIGGERS. would you want that shit?

>>42120036
whatever you do don't forget the raw ground meat

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>be 20 3 years ago
>femboi as fuck, no beard, light girl voice
>today
>huge, lush beard, much deeper voice
>barely recognize myself from 3 year old pictures
thanks frauds for saving my life

>>42129966
I don't feel I act any different

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Hey guys im halfway through pct. Im doing 1000iu hcg 3x a week with nolva 20mg ed. I have to leave home a few weeks for work, and i cant bring shit to shootup hcg. Obviously ill throw the nolvas in a vitamin bottle and take them, but should i take extra hcg this last day, or just bite the bullet and take one last normal dose?

>>42132709
nope, no one gives a shit about your best guess autist. there is a reason everyone on every roid forum notices this happening only on tren, and not other gear

how cum the roid zits and sensitive nipples happen when I mess up and do irregular injections

I'm on TRT for three years and this was the best decision in my life. Even my dick got bigger, holy shit. Thank god for testosterone injections. Also, i'm russian and test is very cheap here. Love you guys, all of you.

>>42132743
sad that retards this fucking braindead and uneducated use steroids

>>42132766
you don't know the answer yourself do you

>>42132772
yeah dude i am just a complete imbecile like yourself, you got me there

>>42132789
Welcome to /fraud/ enjoy your stay

>>42132789
that's a convoluted of agreeing, but I'll take it

Liftin 5 yrs got 1 more semester left in fall and Ive been trying the no eating pre lift this week. I pulled 3 pl8 and im ~145 lbs.

How u mother fuckers have money for all the roid shit??? I dont even use pre workout belts straps or even creatine. I wear a dbz capsule tank as my placebo lol

>>42132815
>lifting 5 years
>145 lbs
>315 did

U dun goofed m8

>>42132815

>lifting 5 years
>145 lbs
>in college and types like the average nigger on facebook

>>42132824
5'8 shit height genetics reporting. Im coolin otherwise

>>42132844
Would you like me to write you an eloquent sentence as to why you are immature

>>42119640
alright I know this is borderline irrational given the doses but I have a mix of 175 test e/175 deca that I want to take but i'm seriously worried about deca dick. after fucking up my anastrazole doses ages ago I tanked my libido and having a limp dick is the absolute worst feeling in the world.

how worried should I be about deca dick at 175 2 or 3 times a week? I don't plan to do a PCT (I only ever cycle 2 and a half months at a time and I've always recovered fully within 2 months).

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>>42132880
>introducing deca
>worried about functioning genitalia
>no pct

>>42132743
please reply

>>42132871
would you like me to do the same on why you are fucking pathetic for being 145lbs after 5 years of lifting?

>>42132880
Deca duck is from prolactin which won't be a problem at such a low dose. Also get some Cialis for rock hard gorilla dick.

>>42132912
gorillas have a tiny penee

>>42132900
I've been doing this for 2 years i'm not ancient but I've read so much at this point I feel like I could give advice (ive just never done deca). a lot of forums talk about no pct, and it's always worked for me.

>>42132912
so should I get caber just in case?

>>42132906
Well in real life, people have priorities to attend to. Lifting is not a first priority for me. While I remain relatively short for my bodytype, if you were an experienced lifter, you would know that is a pretty good weight. After going through ~3 bulking and cutting seasons. Would not particularly say it is pathetic; however, you saying that raises questions about your character young man

>>42132947
>if you were an experienced lifter, you would know that is a pretty good weight.
lol
>Well in real life, people have priorities to attend to.
if you had priorities then you should have stopped lifting since if after 5 years you are 145lbs you have wasted probably thousands of hours in the gym for 0 reason

and eating more doesn't affect "life priorities". you are the same as a fat fuck saying he doesnt have the time to eat less. that doesn't even make sense, it would take u less than 30 seconds a day to eat an amount of peanut butter that would have allowed you to bulk and weigh more after 5 years of lifting than the average 13 year old kid does naturally

fat kids doing starting strength for a few months deadlift more than you.

"oh im fat but i don't have the TIME to not swallow this burger and cake". that's you except you also wasted a retarded amount of time in the gym alongside that, so you are actually worse

>>42120627
kill yourself trash.

>>42133010
Lol
It is not a waste of time, friend. It feels great to lift. Love lifting when im stressed.
You seem angry. I will pray for you

>>42120956
sugar pill gainz

>>42133069
>should i do X, which "feels great" and i love doing it
>>>or should i do X, while also doing Y (eating enough extra food) for 30 seconds per day, which would have allowed me to have an extra 30-40lbs of muscle right now?

hmmmmmmmm

you fucked up, get over it. its like if someone attended college and enjoyed the workload, but purposefully opted out of receiving a degree for no reason, then proceeded to justify it by saying they enjoyed it anyway.

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is this the worst case of ">roiding for this" yet?

>>42133153
Nice bush and nah llama was bad

>>42133153
No way

>>42133153
lol might have wanted to cut 20lbs first fatass, enjoy being obese by the end of that bulk

>>42133153
That is sub beginner natty tier, there is no way in fuck that person has ever set foot in a gym, let alone used anabolic steroids.

>>42133161
>>42133164
that kid took 3 years to bench 1 plate as a natty he needs the juice lol

>>42132718
Anyone?

>>42133180
Do people like this just have major mental blocks when it comes to physical exertion? Were they never pushed as children? I get lifting can be really tough sometimes and mental blocks occur but I have a hard time believing 1 plate in 3 years.

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Okc is working out guys

>>42133222
>bisexual
>Christian (and it's important)

>>42133222
you can see the fucking STDs in its eyes

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>>42133227
>>42133231
Wait there's more

>>42133245
I can't even fault the other retarded shit because it's obvious.

But
>has pride
>is open minded and doesn't judge

Pick one you fucking whore slut

>>42132733
And you think it's an impossibility that tren is releasing pheremones or pheremone-like chemicals instead it must be a behavioural change?

What do I write in the about me on tinder.

Like doesn't have to be exact just give me an idea

>>42133296
no i am saying it IS pheromones/pheromone-like chemicals. if it was ONLY behavioral, then there are other steroids, and just steroids in general, that cause behavior changes(i have not tried but have heard that mtren especially causes massive rage).

but you don't see people on every steroid forum claiming deca, or winny, or EQ, or sdrol, etc., make them pussy magnets. you only see EVERYONE saying this about tren.

>>42133146
I have achieved my goals during my lifting time. I also play alot of soccer - need to be swift. Just because you lift doesnt mean you need to try and get as strong as possible. Ive hit my 425 dl/375 squat/315 bench/155 ohp goals years ago when I was like nearing 190 lbs. Did not fuck up. Maybe you just need to get there first

>>42133313
Well tren commonly gives you an agressive mindset, a crazy good 'look', and a boost to libido.

Put all three together and you have a winning combination.

>>42133309
Hieght, job (make it sound prestigious), university level education, hobby which can be used as date material

>>42133313
So the conclusion is drawn that it's both behavioural and chemical which creates the pussy magnet effect.

>>42133317
>Just because you lift doesnt mean you need to try and get as strong as possible.
"i lift to purposefully not get strong"
"my goal is to purposefully not get strong or gain weight, so i am gonna lift weights for 5 years to be 145lbs"

>>>>"then i am going to wander into a steroid thread and start asking questions about them.... hmmmm... *cough*"

>>42133397
LOL
Clearly if you lift 5 years and are 145lbs, the problem is that you are not taking steroids

>>42133379
Its group delusion
WAKE UP SHEEPLE

>>42133514
A guy i went to HS with use to say sheeple unironically and you just brought up all the memories about him i repressed

anyone have any experience with accutane? I break out even on cruise doses and it's fucking infuriating. I'm terrified of the potential sides though.

>>42133616
Can't donate blood on it otherwise I'd be on it tomorrow

>>42133616
I get no sides, on 20mg ed, besides some dry mouth.

My gf doesn't think you can tell if someone is on roids, even if they are like Calum Von Moger

How do I prove her wrong?

How do you feel about having gear from multiple sources?

Say you have 3 different test e/c from 3 suppliers with verified blood work

Any issues to run b/c with different gear?

>>42133692
That dude is as big as arnold in his prime and arnold admits to steroid use.

Also, FFMI (fat free mass index) is a good way to determine if someone is on roids if they are at or below 10% bodyfat. Anyone close to or above 25 is very likely on roids.

>>42133657
20MG is really low though isn't it? If they put you on a regime to completely get rid of acne isn't it typically a higher dose?

>>42133969
20mg every 3-4 days has completely cleared my skin. My brother asked me what the hell I did because I usually had a few spots at all times

Only side effect would be a little bit of photosensitivity

>>42133709
bump for answers

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>>42130262
..post brap's please

>>42133709
I mean obviously it's not ideal, since you're increasing the chance of a bunk vial with multiple sources like that.

Otherwise shouldn't be a problem, and honestly the above happening would still be rare circumstance if you're using reliable sources.

Ideas for a SIMPLE first date with some asn qt from okc?

>>42134562
Catching street dogs say you "learned it from you last Asian ho"

>>42134536
Using reliable sources

I went on a fucking shopping spree for some reason and have a shit ton of gear

If my bloods come back good this week

I'm upping my dose

>>42134592
But we caught outside cats at the local suburb not dogs anon

>>42131196
Awww, the stubby wittle t-rex thinks he's people.

>>42133629
do you tell the red cross people that you use steroids and needles too?

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Do I ask for a number here or just try to make plans directly or what?

>>42135009
>choker

Wrap your dick up m8

>>42135037
I live life on the edge

But seriously I aint ever pulled strange from online I have no clue what the operating procedure should be

>>42135046
Give her my number

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>Can't piss normally anymore
>I know what you're thinking
Elevated estrogen = prostate issues = urination issues

>>42135166
on 250 test for some reason if I take an AI (which i have learned just crashes my e2 at this test dose) i have a harder time pissing than if I take 0 AI

does low e2 also fuck up your prostate like high e2 does?

>>42135007
lol nope

>>42135166
is there a part 2 or?....

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Ok admission time.

If I don't get flaked on this will be the first time I've ever been on a date.

Tren is legit curing my autism. Wish me luck

>>42135202
>AI

I'm personally lowering my AI dosage to every few days .5mg

No need to run high levels as I'm not even sure if my levels are within normal range

I'm getting my levels done this week

I do have one concern, last blood workup had elevated levels of PSA, prostate etc..

Will be interesting to see new bloods

I also think my urination issue isn't that serious, probably just holding onto water

Need to drop my estrogen..

>>42135210
so why fucking tell them you use accutane

>>42135234
because i dont actually want to mess of the system. My understanding is the fact that im clean (like disease wise) i can still donate a my donation is still of use. On accutane im pretty sure they can't use the blood. Is this the case?

>>42135260
who cares?

>>42135260
I guess I do. Im by no means a pizza face so I live without accutane.

>>42135272
whoops
>>42135304

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Wew 80mg of epi and 55mg of drol is pretty fucking legit. Felt unstoppable in the gym and horry shit those pumps.

>>42129848
>>42129822
Some rando.

>>42130034
Epi raws.

>>42132649
>steroids deepen your voice

Wait, seriously!? Like, permanently?

how long did you lift before you ran your first cycle?

/fraud/, has anyone in the history of ever actually done a short cycle to reach a body goal and then hopped off forever to maintain themselves? I've been making pretty decent progress in the gym recently (up 20kg on bench, on track to have 1/2/3/4 by thanksgiving even with my slow down in strength gains), but I'm still 15 pounds away from my bodyweight goal (currently 5'11" 160 at 10ish% bf, I want 185 with slightly visible abs). How quick could I have it on roids assuming I had a good diet?

>>42135573
4 years

>>42135772
A decent test cycle would get a devoted lifter there easy as. A devoted lifter would get their regardless of steroids though....

but nobody likes training without roids after roids.

So what I'm saying is do you think you actually need steroids or are you just lazy and therefore would you be able to maintain it anyway?

>>42135909
This is a lot of words to convey the incredibly simple point of "are you lazy"?

250mg test-e ew vs 500mg ew?

>>42135950
Im amazed you took the time to read it then buddy :^)

>>42135772
Once you get on, there's no coming off

>>42135772
you can do it. as long as you don't go over your maximum muscular potential, you can keep 90% of the gains once you hop off.

>>42136122
you say this as if anyone in history even once has ever tried gear then just "hopped off"

>>42136082
Don't lie you aren't really that amazed. Possibly amused or intrigued.

>>42136133
lmao I have. I kept 90% of what I gained. Thinking about cycling again after I kids.

>>42136147
Lol im just at a loss. Like take drugs to get big as fuck, take drugs to hit your natty limit in 3 years instead of 8, take drugs because your competing in power lifting. But taking drugs to hit 185 @ 5'11" ? All that money and the health risk for like sweet fuck all results. It's almost comical.

>>42136182
185 lean at 5'11 is big. also gear dosen't cost that much.

>>42136182
Oh I'm totally not the dude who posted the question either.

>>42136197
I shouldn't shit on other peoples goals I guess. I agree that you can keep anything up until your natural limit but fuck how many people have that drive?

>>42136270
I figured I was just throwing my thought pattern out there

>>42136301
I agree with you though. If you're 5'6 and above you should hit 200 natty easy (With a reasonable bf 16 or less).

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>>42136323
I'm 6'2" and was 220ish from memory natty and I look back and feel like an absolute cop out for considering that to be a decent strength base. Ah the things you would do different in hindsight.

>pic related plz no dox angry anons

>>42136323
>5'6
>200
you have no idea about how any of this works

post a pic

>>42136399
just some retarded ass natty kid from bodybuilding.com that thinks roids = ronnie coleman and dorian yates, while natty = jeff seid, john skywalker, david laid, etc.

>>42136448
Lmao I've been blasting and cruising for three years.

>>42136470
that's probably bullshit, but if true, even more sad that you have been using that long and are this fucking retarded

>>42136470
waiting on pic

>>42136478
How am I retarded? One of closest buddies is 5'6 and won a juniors comp at 195 pulling over 600, benching over 400 and squatting over 500, natty. It's entirely a realistic goal to be a certain weight. Are you triggered?

>>42136494
>BnC for 3 years
>believes someone competed and won at 5'6 195 natty

more like you are a natty retarded kid and you see him claiming natty and eat up his "dude im natty" bullshit even though you know it is retarded, because you want to believe it is possible for you

I can't be the only one with sleep issues on here... fuckkkkk

>>42136504
I'm 6'5 260 and he has explored the option of gear but got injured wrestling and decided against because surgery is a possibility. Sorry but you're angry dude. Besides it's a tested fed.

>>42136517
>6'5 260
and you're still not gonna post pics

>>42135202
>>42135222
You should be probably just get some bloods done and post your levels. Always start with blood work and go from there.

>>42136517
>6'5 260
post body or gtfo retard, have a feeling you are more like 5'6 140

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>>42133222
0% match

>>42132815
145?
I'm kind of lost here
You're too lean as it is, just eat more and workout. Add an extra scoop or plate a day.

>>42136494
>>42136517
oh you're a fat powerlifting retard, this explains everything

wrong thread buddy

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>>42136530
>>42136540
Nah I'm okay, it's p chill. Later duders, sometime people just disagree!

I have a cool picture for you doggies tho, enjoy.

>>42132743
>Estrogen

What do you mean by irregular injections BTW?


>>42132762
Your dick got bigger? That only happens on a proper cycle or multiple gear. Test alone doesn't do that.

>>42136517
>I'm 6'5 260
Pics? What's your training knowledge like..

>>42136588
like a burger and a powerlifting xxxxxxxl tshirt

just realized he called 16% bf a "reasonable bodyfat"

he probably is 6'5 260. at 30% bf of course

>>42136568
lol it's bimbo

you really think the weight difference between you and someone who's 1 foot shorter than you + natty should only be 60 pounds?

how do not realize how fucking retarded you are

is Jeff Seid natty? what steroids is he on, if any?

>>42136693
Fuck no. Typical physique compounds: test/tren/mast/winny.

>>42136693
kill yourself

new

>>42136793
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