>cut for 3 months after natty bulk >lose literally all

>>42035683
You didn't eat enough protein

i'm scared of something like this happening once i decide to cut after bulking

>>42035707
Maybe i did maybe i didn't. I did natty "lean bulk" two times and ended up fat both times and after both cuts i lost pretty much all size and strenght.

But not gaining any strength after 3 months of eating enough calories is not right.

It's not time to quit. It's time to GOMAD

>>42035828
Go to the doc and get your test levels checked. If they're very low you're fucked.

There are so called non-responders to weight training, even Riptip admitted that he had experienced them in his gym and he usually just calls everyone who doesn't make gains a faggot. However they don't actually not respond at all, just very badly. If you're literally not making any progress at all, you're either very physically sick or doing something very wrong. Try significantly increasing the volume if you're on SS for example. Recalculate your calories, etc. Fat can't appear out of nowhere. If you think you're maintaining but you're actually gaining fat, you're calculations were wrong.

Also 3 months is waaay too short for a proper bulk/cut cycle. Most programs don't even fully start until you're a month in. Try properly bulking with a sub100kcal surplus for a year.

>>42035683
You didn´t eat enough to maintain or even up your strength then.

>maintain for 3 months
>look objectively fatter after maintaining

You are either delusional about your diet or are delusional about the way you look.

how?

>>42035683
>make bulk gains for 6 months
>put on 40lbs
>cut 3 weeks on 600mg ed dnp
>people ask you if youre on gear constantly

welcome to natty lifting

>>42035683
Bullshit, ive cut for 4 months and lost about 22lbs and maintained all my strength.
You probably didn't eat enough protein and didn't focus on compounds

>>42035916
Non responders are an extreme rarity, significantly less than 1% of the population.

>>42035683
Same thing happened to me :(

>Cut for 3 months
>Still eat shitty every now and again
>Lose 18lbs or so
>Only very minimal strength loss
OP you're doing something wrong.

why would anyone lift natty? Unless you're poor there isno reason to.

>>42036614
To live longer

>>42035916
>sub 100kcal surplus

Is that all thats needed?

My tdee is like 3k but i'm taking in at least 3300 (more like 3600 if you add in the olive oil I cook with, I guess)

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>cutting

>>42036651
If you call natty life living.

>>42036667
Nah, you should get 250kcal surplus for a gain of 1kg/m

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This is how i looked after my first cut as a natty. still had 1/2/3/4+ lifts, maybe lost around 10% overall strength. How long did you bulk? 3 months? I cut once a year for summer then do a slow bulk the rest.

>>42035916
>Go to the doc and get your test levels checked
i've checked my test levels

Free testosterone range for adults my age (im 28) 1,00 - 28,28 pg/ml
my result: 9,19 pg/ml

>>42036485
shit happend twice to me
>didn't focus on compounds
compounds are always my main focus

>>42036741
>How long did you bulk?
this recent bulk was over 6 months

just double your volume pussy

>>42036698
kek

OP, post:

- start of cut bodyweight
- start of cut lifting stats
- end of cut bodyweight
- end of cut lifting stats