>Do 5x5 3 days a week >No gains, lifts stall, get fat...

Do you have any routine? My back got fucked yo from trying to push it every other day.

>>42027979
How long were you on PPL for?

>a program made me fat

>>42028010
you're supposed to do pplxpplxpplxpplx or even pplxpplxxpplxpplxx

>>42028056

pplpplx is the way to go.

>>42028061
I disagree. i typically do legs-push-pull-x-LPP-xx

I squat heavy on leg days and diddly heavy on pull days so I need the break

>>42028010

Push 1
3x5 BB Bench
3x5 BB Press
3x8 DB Incline
3x10 DB Front Raise
3x12 Tricep Bar Tri Ext

Pull 1
3x5 BB Pendlay Row
3x5 BB Upright Row
3x8 DB Row
3x10 DB Lateral Raise
3x12 EZ Bar Curl

Legs 1
3x5 Low Bar Squat
3x8 SLDL
3x12 Split Squat
3x25 Crunches
3x30s Side Planks

June 29th - Push 2
3x5 BB Incline Bench
3x5 Dips
3x8 DB Press
3x10 DB Fly
3x12 DB Tri Ext

July 1st - Pull 2
3x5 BB Yates Row
3x5 Pull Ups
3x8 DB Upright Row
3x10 DB BO Fly
3x12 DB P-Curl

July 2nd - Legs 2
3x5 Deadlift
3x8 Front Squat
3x12 BW C Raise
3x15 L Raise
3x60s Plank

Starting strength is used to build a strength base. It's not meant to be run forever, only a few months. It's much better to do SS then switch to PPL

PPL is fine because it has twice a week frequency for body parts which is generally recommended by science. Just make sure you're progressively overloading on top of that and you're good to go

>hey guys, did you know programs stall eventually?

what i had no idea, thanks OP

>>42027979
Im doing ppl 6 days a week and got good results too. But the other day someone told me I might over training and it's killing my gains. Also I took 3 days off last week because my sister had surgery. I also started taking creatine. I noticed that my body got better these past few days. Is it the extra rest or the creatine or am I deluded?

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>>42028440
Just keep the volume low. Don't go over 15 sets and you wont OT.

>>42028041
kek, this

>>42027979
honestly dude, if your diet is good, recovery is good and youre training like a man and not a pussy, any program will work.

SL have worked just fine for me, and i have tried PPL as well, SL is the one that has increased my lifts by the most by far

>>42027979
>goes to the gym 6 days a week just to train each bodypart 2x a week

Amazing.

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>>42028510
do you even home gym bruh?

>>42027979
nsuns 5/3/1 >> PPL by far

>>42028533
i'm mirin

>>42028544
>nsuns 5/3/1
Isn't that a reddit meme routine?

>>42028533
Not gonna lie, I'm jelly.

>>42028440
The extra rest can help a lot after 4-6 weeks

>>42028096
You aren't even doing that much volume for a PPL. Where are the 3x10-15 sets?

>>42028533
>amount of clips
>only one barbell
Why?

>>42028938
kek

>>42028574
Never heard of it before and could only find sources on it from the subreddit, so it looks like it.

>>42028938
Micro loading duh

>>42028010
thats barbell rows doing that to you most likely

>>42029023
kek that acutally makes sense

>>42028096
What's the point of having rotating days if you only do the second option once a year

>>42028533

Where can I get me one of these?

>>42028010
dude, i do full body every other day, heavy as fuck, im fine

>>42027979
Because strength training is a meme

>>42027979
Which PPL are you running? What exercises and setsXreps?

>>42029462
>Which PPL are you running?
Not everything needs a fucking program mapped out to the T with intensities and rep tempos, fuck. "What fucking PPL are you running?" He's running PPL, you fucking twat. That's all there is to it. I swear you cunts over complicate everything.