What's in your supplement cabinet, /fit/? Here's mine:

(2) 5 llb bags 100% whey
(3) C4 pre-workout (was cheap...3 scoops)
(1) Creatine
(1) Alpha Amino
(1) JYM post carb
(24) SIPS

>>42005601
>no offense anon, but c4 is the most bullshit PWO around. All flash, no substance

Shameless self bump

>>42005601
Jym post is literally dextrose, sugar. You fell for the meme senpai.

4X Test Enthanate
2X bottles aromasin
1x bottle clomod
1x bottle nolvadex
2x vials hcg

>>42005751
why does stoppani even make a product for that? He usually just says eat gummy bears. Hell, you don't even need that, just eat white bread

>>42005757
lucky.

bamp

>>42005790
Because he is a jew.

>>42005808
nah, babby's first cycle started on the 1st

>>42005790
To make money hurr durr>>42005790

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>>42005860

Self bamp

2x ON Gold Standard, Chocolate and Vanilla
1x ON Creatine
Assorted bottles of multi vitamins and omega 3 fish oil, though is "supplement" really the correct term for something like that

>>42006161
They read dietary supplement on the bottle usually so I would say yes duh

Whey protein
Casein protein
Creatine
Multivitamin
Calcium
Vitamin D
Potassium
Caffeine
L-Theanine
Yohimbine HCL
BCAA's
....and a bunch of nootropics and other drugs I can't spell.

>>42006356
holy fuck, do you really take that much? It really doesn't seem necessary

Creatine

>>42006394
That's it ?

>>42006356
nigga why you dont eat quark or cottage cheese or drink milk and then need calcium supplement instead? What the fuck are you eating?

I never understood why people have to drink so much coffee they actually take l theanine for the minimal effect it may have LOL

>whey AND bcaa
Nigga pls.

>>42005559
in order of importance
whey
creatine
fish oil
pre
bcaas
multivitamin

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Can anyone let me know if what im doing is acceptable or if im taking my supps at the wrong time or if im doing too much plz thx bb. Didn't wanna start a thread just for this:

Wake up 6am
BCAA pills(Recommended dose is 8)
pre-workout

Workout

1 Full egg, 2 Egg whites
Vitamin D
Fish Oil
Protein shake
Creatine

Work by 10am blah blah blah

1Hr before sleep: ZMA(Recommended dose is 3)

Flax oil, whey/creatine blend, zma, vitamin d/k/iodine complex, l tyrosine, Topical Dhea/pregnenolone/arimistane mix, lgd4033, toremifene, DAA, mk677

>>42006356
Are you me
>>42006425

>>42006411
>>42006422
Srs question, wtf are BCAAs good for? I tried drinking a intra bcaa drink during a workout and felt like it didn't do crap for "endurance"

>>42005559
>What's in your supplement cabinet, /fit/?
A jar of creatine my wife uses and expired 8:1:1:1 BCAAs, which I bought after starting my cut and only used like 3 portions.

>>42005601
>not making your own pre workout

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>>42006425

>>42006425
Oh and sips, kava root, cbd

>>42006356
I only take the protein and vitamin D on the regular. Everything else is used when necessary and/or leftovers.

>>42006453
>posting in a survey thread without reading anyone else's response
Yes I did

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>>42005559
ON whey protein chocolate
ON casein protein vanilla (never again the taste is horrific)
Purple k creatine (never again will get powder monohydrate next time)
Nitraflex preworkout
Omega 3
Multi vitamin
Zinc
Licathin
Magnesium

I'm 5 weeks deep in SL after about 2 years of fuckarounditis in the gym

>>42006455
>keeps sips in cabinet and not in refrigerator

>>42006435
BCAAs, is Leucine, IsoLeucine and Valine. Only Leucine is of any benefit to anybody, but since the production of the 3 branched chained amino-acids had the same problems and the facilities do all three, they lumped them together.

High amounts of serum leucine initiate protein synthesis, regardless of other factors. So if you're cutting, it helps you in keeping your muscles and burning other shit.
It also helps in joint regeneration, recovery - fucking everything that needs gene expression.

It's just bitter as fuck, so the powdered jews are usually less than 20% leucine and 80% cheap fillers that don't taste like 10 year old puke.

>>42006435
I think most anons agree it's a meme by the fitness industry. The only supplements that really work are protein, preworkout and anything that's illegal.

>>42006482
Wait we specifically meant only cabinet? Cuz my cbd is under my pillow

>>42006485
If this is true I need to get some. Do you have a source?

>>42006472
seems like you would get zinc, licathin, magnesium, etc in ur multi? Why take them separate if u already take a multi?

Zinc, B6 P5P, B1, B2, Magnesium, Taurine, Niacinamide, Calcium, Vitamin D, Glycine, Tyrosine, BCAA, Theanine, Caffeine, Vitamin E (soy-free), Vitamin K2, Vitamin A, Boron, Molybdenum, MSM.

No I don't take everything everyday.

>>42006435
>>42006485

Pretty much this but they're amazing for recovery. Recomping now and it's been a fucking god send.

>>42006512
holy cow y tho

>>42006505
Cause I'm an idiot, all this shit was on sale in the pharmacy up the street from my work so I bought it. I need to look at the dosages in my multi vitamin

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>>42006495

11 lb bag of Myprotein whey
5.5 lb bag of myprotein casein
2.2 lb bag of myprotein creatine
bulk supplements fish oil
bulk supplements bcaas
Mesomorph pre
koala freak pre

Got the bulk supplement bcaas for free after buying the fish oil. Got everything else on crazy sales. Just wait and whenever you see it go over 50% off then I buy in bulkish. Except for the preworkout, I just wanted to try the koala freak.

>>42006565
how does koala freak compare to mesomorph, which is the GOAT imo

>>42005559
Creatine Mono
Omega 3
Vitamin D3

>>42006520

I like to experiment with dosages, I don't like multis for this reason. You can't have a perfect multi anyway since for instance D & A (and E & K2) antagonize each other and won't be absorbed well if taken together.

>22mg Zinc Picolanate at lunch
>2000 IU of Vitamin D3 at lunch
>400mg of Magnesium Glycinate right before bed
Thinking about getting either some L-tyrosine or 5-HTP to help with depression.

>>42006662
uh why not just go to a doc and get anti depressants

>>42006662

Funny cuz tyrosine and 5-htp would have opposite effects. In fact dopamine (its precursor being tyrosine) blocks serotonin production (5-htp). By all means go with Tyrosine, the other is a meme and harmful in long term.

>>42006697
I'm afraid of taking stuff like that, and getting hooked. Also I don't have insurance at the moment.

>>42006718

Makes way more sense to go with a natural supplement, either vtamin, mineral or prohormone that the body needs, than a manmade chemical that has always side effects and ways to screw your body.

Can anyone let me know if what im doing is acceptable or if im taking my supps at the wrong time or if im doing too much plz thx bb. Didn't wanna start a thread just for this:

Wake up 6am
BCAA pills(Recommended dose is 8)
pre-workout

Workout

1 Full egg, 2 Egg whites
Vitamin D
Fish Oil
Protein shake
Creatine

Work by 10am blah blah blah

1Hr before sleep: ZMA(Recommended dose is 3)

>>42005559
b12

>>42006782
Just tren hard, eat clen, test your limits, anavar give up. You're fine

>Naked Grass Fed Whey
>BCAAs
>ECAAs
>Omega 3s

>Sometimes Random Pre-Work
>ECA stack when cutting
>Yohimbine towards the end of cut

Nothing

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>>42006782
Ive read one scoop of whey is beneficial about 45min before a work out and right after.

Creatine ive always thought should be taken before a workout

Also, I dont know how much of a meme it is but i guess BCAAs can help you during a workout and ECAAs are great pre workout.

>>42006857
Isn't that because many whey powders contain bcaas

>>42006857
Does anyone have the image for the weighted stretching in this infographic?

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>>42007164

>>42006857
so much bullshit in this picture

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>>42007188

>2 tubs of whey
>2 tubs of creatine

>>42007196
Explain

Creatine and real food.
>mfw supplement memes.

>>42007196
its hard knowing who to believe with all this broscience floating around. Some o the shit on there makes sense to me

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>>42007227
This kind of real food?

hey guys, just got a paycheck and lookin into sups again.

Used to do whey and creatine a couple years back. is that still the good shit?

>>42006857
>dont eat carbs before a workout

wtf

>>42007223
1. you get both sarcoplasmic and myofibrillar hypertrophy pretty much no matter what you do. the differences are minor
2. why the fuck would not eat any carbs before working out? thats the most retarded shit ive ever heard
BCAAs do peak MPS heavily. you have the rest of the aminos in your bloodstream/stomach storages even if it's been like 24hrs since your last meal
4. yeah you should eat carbs and protein after working out but sticking to any ratio is retarded. just IIFYM and put most of your carbs around workouts.
5. you can just eat a normal meal 1-4 hours before working out, no need for whey exactly 1 hour before. casein is bullshit - sure, the MPS lasts longer but it never peaks nearly as high as whey. the total "volume" of mps is probably the same. casein does prevent protein breakdown better, though, so combining casein and whey no matter when can be useful.
6. creatine is useful but doesn't really matter when you take it

8. what the fuck? why would you do that?
9. flour is wheat (in general). there's nothing wrong with insulin, yeah it allows for fat deposit but that is ultimately decided by your caloric balance.

14. your leg muscles won't break down from HIIT any more than they would break down in anything. BCAA is useful but it's nitpicking.

15. by that logic you shouldn't train any muscle if you're fat

16. what a generalization. there's a lot more to doing mroe reps than stimulating the mitochondria to adapt.

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Fish Oil
Vitamin D
Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc
B12
Noopept (Pretty useless)

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Any thoughts on my stack? I felt quite different when I first started it, but the effects tapered off after a while. Perhaps it was just a placebo effect as a result of my mind processes, but the effects were certainly noticeable.

----
Morning:
----

>5,000 IU vitamin D
>1x 2,000mg Garlic (pill)
>1x Sketchy overpriced hippy pill I have from someone else ('Synagen IQ')
>4x 475mg (1900mg total) fish oil pills. Incl 300mg Omega 3 fatty acids in each, of which 285 is EPA + DHA (so 1,200 omega 3 fatty acids of which 1,140mg is epa + dha)
>4x Vitamin C/Ascorbic acid 1g (4g total)

----
Night:
----

>1x50mg Zinc (pill)
>2x250mg Magnesium (oxide form, pills)
>1x100mg Vitamin B6/Pyridoxine (pill)

Optional/Uncommon:

>Proprietary melatonin supplement
>Creatine monohydrate 5g daily (have been unable to lift. Will resume consumption should this condition change).

Whey
Fish oil
Calcium citrate
Magnesium
Zinc
Multivitamin
Preworkout
Fiber

On occasion
Caffeine
Horny goat weed

>>42005559
whey, soy, rice, pea protein
creatine
multi-vitamine
vitamine D3, magnesium, zinc
levothyroxine
fish oil (in fridge)

>B12
To avoid B12 deficiency.
>D3
I don't go outside that much, so I run the risk of getting deficient in vitamn D3
>zinc
I only take this if I get less than 80% of the RDI.
>pea protein
>creatine
I throw these into the blender along with soy milk, instant coffee, cocoa powder and 1.5 bananas.
>melatonin
>valerian extract
For sleeping, but I don't think the valerian extract actually works so I won't be buying it again in the future.

>>42008270
Aren't you scared about the whole estrogen thing with soy milk?

Also I think valerian builds up tolerance. It is very effective to fix your sleep schedule and as anti depressant but nobody should depend on it.

>>42009324
>Aren't you scared about the whole estrogen thing with soy milk?
That's quite literally propaganda funded by the dairy industry.

Can anyone recommend a high calorie "mass gainer" shake. I have been trying for a while to eat real food and gain weight, but its been a long time and I have trouble bringing my self to consistently eat enough food. Preferably something that is good for me, taste is not an issue.

>>42006576
Literally just got it yesterday. Gonna try it tomorrow morning, will make a new thread

>>42007508
I read some stuff the other day that made a compelling argument for cycling supplements.

Maybe you'd benefit from mixing it up a bit?

Creatine
Glucosamine
Multivitamin
Vitamin D
Fish Oil
Probiotic (don't have a gallbladder)

whey.
test.
eq
multi

>Fish oil
>Flax seed oil
>Zing
>Magnesium
>Potassium
>D3
>Vitamin C

Anyone have thoughts on Flax Seed oil? I'm about to re-up soon but I heard if has estrogenic properties... thoughts?

>>42010424
>eq
how do you like it? All the meatheads tend to say its worthless because it doesnt give you deca gains

>>42010457
I'm on super light doses.
noticeable strength and it keeps me super lean.
both more so than just on 300 test, so it's definitely doing something
I'm on 300 test 350 eq.

1. Whole Oat Groats Extract
2. Steel-Cut Oats Extract
3. Scottish Oats Extract
4. Old-Fashioned Rolled Oats Extract
5. Quick Rolled Oats Extract
6. Instant Rolled Oats Extract
7. Oat Bran Extract
8. Oat Flour Extract
9. Cold Pressed Extra Virgin Squats

>>42010471
nothing wrong with that. these juicemonkeys that are mainlining 3 grams of compounds are fucked in the head unless they are competition bodybuilders

Whey
Greens powder
Fisher oils
vitamin d
Magnesium
carbs + electrolytes
Creatine

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>>42010301
During my initial dosages, I noticed a few specific changes:

1. Increased energy
2. Increased libido/blood flow (nitric oxide gains from garlic + ascorbic acid). Homosexual tendencies/inclinations/fantasies increased, and my already sensitive body was even more sensitive than usual. Masturbation was more gratifying, and my ejaculations were more intense and thick.
3. Increased sense of flow/'presence'. More calm.
4. Improved mood and self-appreciation. Felt more sexually confident and
5. Dietary desire changed. I wanted leaner foods like boiled eggs, turkey, greek yogurt, and spinach over cheesy eggs, chicken, beef, etc. My appetite was greatly suppressed, where I'd eat once, maybe twice a day (forgetting to eat), and not eating much in the first place.
6. Image desire changed. I didn't want to be a full-on powerlifter so much as have the lower-body physique of a powerlifter (I'm genetically inclined to thicker thighs/ass/calves) and the upper-body of a boxer/swimmer. Think something like 'lean Greek statue' mode.
7. Sleep needs were greatly lowered. I felt completely rested in as few as 5, maybe even 4 hours.

Most of the effects have tapered off, unfortunately. My dietary and image desires are some of the only remaining values, as well as my homosexual inclinations. I find I still have thick loads so long as I refrain from excessive masturbation for even a day, but I was able to have full-size loads at least twice a day before. I question whether the effects were due to the synergy of what I ate, or just placebo effects. Perhaps both?

I've attempted to adjust dosages, but the results were essentially the same. I am unsure of how to properly cycle my supplements to constantly maintain the effects. Do you have anything to suggest? Links, personal notes, thoughts?

>>42011982
Most of your supplements are essential for your body. You are just healthier.

>3 tubs of whey
>creatine

Considering BCAAs

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>>42012070
>You are just healthier.

I do not feel healthier now, though. Why do I not feel the effects that I had when dosing initially, then? Are my receptor agonists/antagonists perhaps burned out?

I chose the supplements that I did to improve nitric oxide gains for blood flow, improve sleep, and benefit testosterone function...among whatever else I could achieve from these stacks. The benefits I experienced were profound, especially at the price point that they were achieved within. No doctor has ever had such a significant impact on my health as I have when forming my own stack with my own research and trials. Yet, if I was truly healthier, why are over half of these benefits gone now?

How should I pursue cycling my supplements, or how might I attempt to re-activate the full list of benefits?

>thinking Chinese bathtub chemicals will do anything for your health
I don't even use protein powder everything I need comes from food

>>42012160
The body always strives for homeostasis. Therefore all profound effects can't last if it's not heavy drugs. Essentially your body will try to jew you out of feeling any different, even though you get healthier. Think of caffeine, you build up a tolerance.

>>42012179
You want a medal?

>>42012230

>Homeostasis

With this in mind, what should I consider to achieve a passive effect through cycling? Alternatively, how might I mute or overpass the homeostasis response to supplementation, beyond overloading on the supplements?

I would greatly appreciate any links on this subject to guide me towards improving the efficiency of my supplementation.

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Where do you Canada bros buy your pre workout? Most of the good shit only ships within the states, and shipping to Canada is like 20$++.

I've been using the myprotein one recently but they only have the sour apple available currently, that one tastes like your consuming raw sweetner.

Any help bros?

>>42006472
Conan?

Vitamin C
Fish Oil
Creatine
Whey

>>42012382
I haven't tried it yet (and I'm from the US), but caffeine + l-theanine is a popular beginner nootropic stack you might be interested in. 2-1 ratio of l-theanine to caffeine, something like 200mg to 100mg. I imagine it would work quite well for you. Could get both of them in powder form online inexpensively to boot. MyProtein had the cheapest L-theanine recently, though they only have caffeine pills, and those were all sold out. I've had difficulty finding plain caffeine powder on popular online retailers too, presumably due to FDA crackdowns.

>>42012382

https://www.canadianprotein.com/

You're fucking welcome, ma man. Their economy whey is r good too.

>>42012457
that is the equivalent of myprotein

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>Bike after work
>Been feeling sluggish and skipping days due to no energy
>Have no clue where to start for energy supplement info

I'm looking for a natural supplement if possible. Not a powder that mixes a bunch of shit together. Maybe something I mix in water and kicks in after I start my ride?

L-Citrulline keeps getting brought up but unclear if it gives energy boost for my ride and lets me keep my sleep schedule.

>thanksguize

>>42012468

yeh but special for Canucks only

>>42012476

How about some fucking coffee and carbs?

>>42012476
five hour energy :DDDDD

>>42012476
Eat more

>>42011982
>>42012160
>>42012230
>The body always strives for homeostasis. Therefore all profound effects can't last if it's not heavy drugs. Essentially your body will try to jew you out of feeling any different, even though you get healthier. Think of caffeine, you build up a tolerance.
This is where the cycling ideology comes from.

I haven't really tried it, I've added sups to my reg but never taken away. Sometimes I cycle things in and out, and I do notice changes when I do that. Like I'll do certain sups only every couple of days, spontaneously depending on my mood.

I first got the idea from this article where the interviewee touches on it a bit. Not sure if his book is out or not, haven't looked:
https://myoblast.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/anabolic-burst-cycling-of-diet-and-exercise-abcde-torbjorn-akerfeldt-part-2/

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>>42012499
I greatly appreciate the link, and will be sure to read both part 1 and 2 when I am free to do so soon. Are there any points in either article (1 or 2) that you would suggest that I pay particular attention to?

More importantly, I am interested in an expansion on your statement:

>Like I'll do certain sups only every couple of days, spontaneously depending on my mood.

Would you go into further detail? I find it interesting that you adjust your supplementation cycle to infrequent dosages based solely on your present mood. That sounds complex, like it requires a solid understanding of your body and associated supplement synergy/timing. I understand many of these concepts with my supplements, but actually applying them to my stack may be the issue. I've been questioning whether I take too much of certain supplements, or if my stacks have conflicts within themselves I am unaware of that result in poor results.

To clarify, my stack is in this post:
>>42007508

>>42007700
When do you take Horny Goat Weed and how does it effect you?

>>42012567
I couldn't find part 1, the link is dead.

Anyway it's an article about micro bulk cycling, and they touch a bit on the idea of cycling sups.

gl

>>42012607
Whenever I see my girlfriend. The times I've taken it with my preworkout and not had sex, I wake up in the middle of the night with an erection, so I stopped taking it unless I know I'm gonna have sex.

God, supps are so alluring... the idea that I am missing out on hidden potential and gains because I am not taking a certain pill or powder keeps me coming back.
Truthfully though, even for the most proven and tested supps aren't the effects so subtle and over such a long time period so as they are hardly noticeable?
Here's what I'm on
Multi
Vit d
Fish oil
Mineral supp
Spirulina
Creatine
Citrulline malate

Any suggestions for longevity/inflammation supps?
How about for erections?
I'm chasing the magic boner

>>42005559
Coffee, oats and bananas. 4realz. Working out for 2 years now and I want to order creatine to see if it helps with recovery. What brand doesn't gimp you on dosage?

>>42012730
I've had reduced effects over a long period of time (might need cycling or on/off periods), but nitric oxide boosts as a result of consuming garlic pills and ascorbic acid had an amazing effect on my erection strength. The blood flow from the nitric oxide boost of these two things combined was insane. I couldn't make my penis thicker/harder than that if I tried.

I can't say how long it will last, but damn if isn't amazing while it does.

>>42012567
>More importantly, I am interested in an expansion on your statement:
>Like I'll do certain sups only every couple of days, spontaneously depending on my mood

Alright, I'll give it to you straight.
> it requires a solid understanding of your body
That's big number one.

Number two is, the sups that I cycle in are things that I take for very specialized reasons.
Those reasons are usually sexual in nature, to be frank.
I have sups that I take to increase my ejaculate, if I know I'm going to be expending a lot. I'll also up my zinc intake for this purpose.

I bought some dick pills on a whim, they got solid reviews and shit. I don't expect them to make me bigger, but I'll be damned, they do a lot of cool shit to my dick, and I take them under the recommended dose, mostly for the cool shit that they do. I notice the difference. And they DO increase my libido, hardness, sensitivity, ability to last, and shit it does seem bigger when I take them. It was an impulse buy just to see what for. But again, I mostly take them when I feel like I want that effect.

On to more ideas. If I get sun during the day, I might decide to skip the D3. You don't have to, but why not?

Most of the sups I take, I do so on a regular basis at a regular timing though.

Another one:
Caffeine. People don't treat this like a sup most of the time, but I do. I got those 200mg pills and they're awesome. But I like the kick I get out of Caffeine, so I avoid doing it all the time. However, there's a trick with Caffeine that might extend to other sups.
The way it works with Caffeine is, your body figures out when you like to take it (for most people this is the morning cup of joe), and some time BEFORE the usual timing it will start producing the shit it needs to cleanse your body of it. So, you can trick your body by taking it at odd times, and not developing a routine for it.

There's a lot to be said for mixing things up in all aspects of life really. I say you give it a try.

>>42012846
I'll let you in on another secret expanding on my last point there.

Mix up your life.

Ever talk to those old dudes who are always like "man one minute I was 20 and now I'm 55, where did all that time go?"
You know what happened to those guys? They got a job, got a routine, and did it for 30 fucking years.

Our brains, and bodies, are REALLY good at adapting to shit, and cutting out the bullshit.

I can't tell you how many countless hours I've lost to routine. I'm not saying routines are bad, I'm just saying when you do that shit you're essentially hitting the fast forward button on your life. How many individual workouts do you remember, unless something interesting happened? None.

So the point I'm trying to make here is that, you need to make interesting stuff happen. You need to entertain yourself and do different shit with your life all the time. It LITERALLY extends your "effective" life experience. Healthy change keeps us healthy, just as much as any healthy routine, or supplement.

>>42012846
>>42012887

>Zinc
I tend to take it in a home-crafted ZMA stack of sorts before sleep for improved absorption and sleep quality. Usually just 50mg zinc. Isn't that just above the UDL, though? I wonder if I could find benefits by going higher or not. I've got an obscene amount of pyridoxine too, and only take 100mg at night.

How much zinc do you take?

>Sun/D3
I tend to stay indoors, so I think it is best if I continue to take that supplement. Does 5,000 IU seem like too much, though? It's a commonly-recommended dosage by doctors for deficiency, which I have been noted to have.

>Caffeine
I ordered L-theanine powder recently, and have been considering getting caffeine pills too. Though, I've just heard about theobromine, and I wonder how well it might work with L-theanine instead of caffeine.

>Routine
I dislike routine lifestyle elements in general. They don't make me feel more secure. Rather, they make me feel neurotic, worthless, and hopeless. That said, certain things must be grinded out like in an RPG to attain improvement, wouldn't you agree? Meditation, instrument playing, language studies...the list goes on.

I do not know how to extend my effective life experience when I am a habitual/natural 'pick-dropper' who is forced to adhere to ritual for advancement. Maybe I am looking at the wrong things to supplement my life satisfaction. What do you think?

How do you personally find new experiences and entertain yourself?

>>42006422
Why the two egg whites? Why not 3 full eggs?

>>42005559
Whats the most cocaine/mdma like supp available in the uk?

Looking for recreational use primarily. Can't afford/acquire illicits.

Protein:
Whey (various flavors)
Casein (various flavors)
BCAA

"Exercise supplements"
Electrolyte mix
Creatine mono
B-alanine
DMAA

Stims/fat burners
Caffeine (powder, pills)
Modafinil
Adderall
Lyvanse
Ephedrine
Synephrine

Anti-oxidants
Vit C
NAC

Noots:
Theanine
Reishi mushroom
Blueverry extract
Phenibut
Aniracetam, piracetam
Ashwagandha
et c

Other
Multivitamins
Vit D
Omega 6/3
Various magnesium salts

Gear
Test E, prop, cyp
Mast
Legit HGH
HCG
D-bol
Tren
Mast
Different PCT alts

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>>42013028
>The length of that list

The cost alone, good God.

>>42012763
Garlic pills and vitamin c are the secrets to dick gainz?!?!?!?

>>42013050
They produce great nitric oxide gains, particularly when together. This results in greatly improved blood flow, which results in fantastic erection quality. They're cheap too, so affording them isn't an issue. I highly recommend it.

>>42012951
>How do you personally find new experiences and entertain yourself?
Well, I have been regressing a bit... probably because my current job is providing a wide diversity of experiences and people to interact with...

But it doesn't have to be big. Do shit like take notice of things, odd things, odd people.
Think of something funny to say and say it to someone and see what happens.
You kindof have to do things to amuse yourself, that's what I do anyway.

Basically the idea is to knock yourself out of the "trance" that we all get into when we're doing shit that isn't new or exciting. If you can knock someone else out at the same time (in a nice way) they'll appreciate it, and you can make "temporary friends" with people. I have commitment/attachment issues so I don't tend to go beyond temp friends except with my close life longers and family.

Another thing that helps a lot, is to keep a journal. Improving your event recall will make you appreciate how much time has passed, and how much shit you've actually done. A lot of us forget what a long and interesting life we've lead up till now. It's easy to do.

>Maybe I am looking at the wrong things to supplement my life satisfaction. What do you think?
I think you're onto something here. Most of us are craving something that you can't pop a pill to get. I know I am.

>>42013028
the only shit that does anything good is the whey protein and the caffeine

best preworkout available in nz?

>>42013270
>The 'trance'

I have known about this, and it's only recently that I've found brief instances where it becomes apparent. Apparent that I am currently existing, that I breathe, and blink, and have a beating heart. Maybe for about ten seconds, then it goes away almost immediately after. Perhaps meditation might be the ideal solution to improve my sense of presence and flow.

>Crack jokes, take others out of the trance

I do not personally interact with many people. Attempting to amuse myself feels cheap and false. I acquire no pleasure in it. It does not improve my life in any way that I would deem particularly beneficial.

>Take notice of things, odd things, odd people.

I am the odd thing, the odd creature in many scenarios. Taking notice of myself does not seem to yield any positive results.

>Commitment/attachment issues. Temporary friends

I find the 'temporary friends' point to negatively affect my own issues with attachment. They feel like a waste of time. Why force a connection with an unwilling, uninterested participant out of nervous loneliness and gloom? A forced connection is not a connection, it is an invasion, and people will sense this.

In the end, I stay quiet and reserved in myself because people have no interest in sharing our lives together. I do not blame them, but myself.

I believe this may be a fate I belong to. You seem to have a solid foothold, however, and I do wish the best for you. Please continue to improve yourself. I hope you can sate your cravings.

>>42013379
>Attempting to amuse myself feels cheap and false. I acquire no pleasure in it. It does not improve my life in any way that I would deem particularly beneficial.
What is real man?
In any case if you don't do something to create novelty in your experience then it's all just going to zoom by and you'll be left wondering where your life went when you're lying there on your death bed.

The rest of what you said only seems to highlight the fact that you don't seem to "get it".

You're going to die buddy. Maybe tomorrow, maybe in 100 years, but some day you'll be dead and none of this will matter. Pick something to "waste" your time on and make it good.

If interacting with people doesn't amuse you, don't do it. But trust me when I say this: they don't fucking matter. This. ALL THIS. It's all you man. So live it for you. I recognize that it's hard to understand... But you'll be a lot happier when you accept things and start living the way you choose to with a deliberate directing mind.

Try reading Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. It really hits home on what I'm trying to get across to you.

>>42013418
I feel I do "get it", but rather, I don't want to accept it. It bothers me to think my life is directed towards isolated hedonistic endeavors alone. Like playing with legos, except you're 40 and nobody wants to trade legos with you.

I have nothing but constant waves of anhedonia over the slips of chronic masturbation and bouts of physical exertion; all attempts to feel something different, but I don't. I want to experience and feel things. I want to travel and experience the wild world. I yearn to experience life always, yet I don't know how. I'm just in the trance, and don't know how to 'direct my mind deliberately.'

What have I done to arrive here? Have I consistently ignored and denied myself of [the progress toward] the things I have wanted, to the point nothing is pleasurable?

>Meditations

Do you think this will assist me in knowing how to find direction, or is this mostly conceptual? I am in desperate need of direction, and I realize I am blind to it myself.

Every morning:

Vitamin D3 10000iu
Triple Magnesium Complex - 400mg
Zing - 50mg
Green Tea Tablet - 84mg
Generic Multivitamin
Vitamin K2MK7 - 200mcg
Sunflower Lecithin - 1200mg
Omega3 - 1000mg
P5P (for trigger finger) 50mg

Creatine 5mg before workout.

Myprotein impact whey when necessary.

Evening with food I have another green tea capsule, p5p and 1000mg glucophage.

Lost nearly 90lbs so far in the last year or so.

Obviously, diet is the main factor followed by exercise, but I noticed when I started straight away that the combination of supplements cleared up my head and apparently they help in other ways so meme science or not I keep taking em.

Oh and I've got some MSM 1000mg tablets arriving today after my housemate recommended them.

>>42013487
>Meditations
Marcus Aurelius was the emperor of Rome almost 2000 years ago. Meditations are essentially his philosophical journal. He never intended to have them published, and it helps to keep that in mind when reading it - because you're getting the raw unfiltered thoughts of a real man. Frankly, this should be mandatory learning for all young men. MA was a stoic, so I think he might be right up your alley.

I ain't perfect brother. I struggle with porn addiction. I haven't had a Woman in some time. Sometimes I want one, but it seems like such effort for not much.
At this point, I'm happy wackin it to porn the rest of my life except that I want children. For me, that's what my life is missing, and I deny myself that by not pursuing it. For me, this is one of my life goals, to have a family. I got other stuff sure, but that's the big one.

For you? I can't speak for you. What do you want out of life?
I think the first step towards me recognizing what I wanted out of life was to figure out my core values.
You should do that.
If I ask you what your core values are and you have to think about it for more then 5 minutes, you need to get that figured out pronto.

So if nothing makes you happy or feel pleasure, what are your values? What do you find valuable?

Vitamin D3, fish oil, and whey. That's all a nigga needs.

>>42005559
Food and water

>>42013555
I appreciate that you have taken the time to tell me all that you have, and opening up to me about yourself as well. Not many people will give specific advice, if any in the first place. Your kindness and generosity of time aren't going unnoticed.

I will begin reading (or listening to) the book mid-day tomorrow. Hopefully, it will grant some insight over time.

>Core values

I will perform this exercise. Maybe multiple times. Are there parts in Meditations that might assist in this process? It might be best to do them simultaneously if so.

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>>42005559
>supplements

>>42005790
Protein, creatine, mag glicynate, zinc picolinate, vitamin D3, B-Complex and extra B-12

Just started taking the Magnesium, Zinc, and D3. Does anyone know what a good dosage is for the first two and how long it takes for D3 to start to build up? (I was tested for deficiency and my levels are <20ng/nl while 40-150 is optimal)

>>42006356
Be sure to take vitamin E, A, and K too. They are synergistic with the D, magnesium, and calcium.

>>42013602
I'm pretty sure Marcus talks about the things that he values but overall that's not what the book is about, nor is it intended to assist you with developing this.

You seriously have to figure this out on your own man. Don't feel bad though, most people I talk to about this don't understand what I mean right away until I share some of my core values. Frankly, most people get their values from their family, or religion, or are taught them in some way. In other words they don't usually come up with them independently.

My top three (you can have any number of course) in order:
>Loyalty
>Honesty
>The Golden Rule

I have more. But these make up the core of my being. These values guide my life and actions.
When I'm not sure what to do, these prime directives help me decide what a person like me should do.

Think about, what guides your life? What do you find Valuable?
Friends? Money? Philosophical principals (like the ones I have). Some people say Honor. Some people say Duty.
It's really up to you. But by this age, it's likely you have core beliefs and values already - you just need to bring them to the forefront of your mind and analyze them so you can understand what make you tick better.

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>>42013648
I find loyalty valuable too. It's what I first think of when I think of a good friend. It's what I'd want to share with dear people or comrades.

Thinking of my other values is quite difficult though. Perhaps they will be revealed with proper reflection and rest.

Again, I do appreciate your time. I will be sure to make solid use of your efforts. I'll be copying these posts down for later reference. Maybe I will have some significant insights when my mind is in a different pattern/flow.

Have a lovely night, and good luck in your endeavors, brother.

>>42005559

whey
creatine
glutamine (it's a meme i won't buy again)
BCAAs (meme aswell)
Citrulline
ZMA
Vitamin D
EGCG (Greentea extract)
Fish oil
MACA
Spirulina
Gelatine
Curcumin
Pre-Workout

>>42005559
Real men don't take any supplements.

Daily:
5000UI Vitamin D
2g Fish Oil
50mg Zinc

Weekly:
200mg Testosterone

Probably costs me half as much as you guys fucking around with 20 supplements for triple the gains. Silly.

>>42014033
>I want gains therefore all people must be supplementing for gains

>>42014065
Have you been on this board lmao? It's 99% lifting. Perfectly reasonable assumption. Go back to /r/fitness

>>42013028
> bodybuilding.com platinum member

>>42013725
Curious about the MACA and curcumin. Do you notice anything from these?

>>42005559
Only creatine

I'm thinking of ordering ZMA and BCAA's though. Are they worth it or are they a waste of money?

MP Whey Protein
Creatine Monohydrate
Ephedrine HCL
BCAA
Multivitamin gummies
Melatonin

>>42005559
D
C
Fish Oil
BCAA

>>42014405

MACA just makes me horny af, which is good because i'm addicted to fapping but still can pleasure my gf.

Curcumin helps with inflammation, together with the gelatine is great for your joint. Should always be taken together with pepper (piperin) which boosts bioavailability by 2000%.

>>42014245
This board used to be health and fitness, but I don't expect someone from lebbit to know that.

>>42014415
Seconding this