your average /fit/cuck: >"HAHAHA veg-tards drink your

Bump because fit has no response.
Really get the brain cells chuggin, doesn't it?

sage goes in all fields

>>41986440
Only skinnytards are drinking milk for gains. I'm sipping my dude.

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>>41986718
Agreed. Sage

>>41986732
What the fuck is going on with his spine. Is he turning into Abomination?

>>41986732
that pic is like 3 years old... cmon

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>>41986732
Isn't even his final form

This is what mental illness looks like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EIPGyWacVE

>>41986440
the singular reason i don't take vegans seriously is because of this guy, I'm usually a really calm guy but he just rubs me 7 ways till sunday and I can't figure out why.

>it's another overly aggressive vegan that cant understand that their diet isn't for everyone, then will be met with the same amount of vitriol and will reply with "vegansidekick" images when on the defensive episode

Isn't this the faggot who said he wanted to put his feet through strollers when he heard babies cry? The one who had a knife and threatened to skin people?

>>41986769
This guy isn't mentally ill because he's a vegan. He's mentally ill because he's a legitimately mentally ill person. Eating meat and dairy won't change that. He was abused as a child.

>>41986777
pretty sure its just some kid from /b/ trolling who isn't even vegan

>>41986769
wow he's actually schizophrenic. no wonder he's delusional enough to think that eating only plants will somehow magically replace the effect of antipsychotics

t. schizo

>>41986780
that's the one, not eating animals is all well and good but saying that afterwards just makes you look like a colossal idiot

>>41986796
Lmao I don't go on /b/ ever. Just /fit/ and /tv/.

Why does everyone always comment on this obvious b8. The only thing these threads do is make people hate vegans even more.

>>41986807
Don't forget /mu/, /mu/ is good too.

>>41986769

This kid is fucking insane. No wonder everyone says he's nuts.

>>41986440
>GMOs are bad

Ok Alex Jones

>>41986440

What happened to his fucking neck?

>>41986440
Dude, you spend way too much time creating thread after thread pushing your agenda.
Best to slow it down a bit if you like posting here.

>>41986769

brain damage? or just canadian?

>>41986769
damn I actually feel bad for this guy, hopefully he doesn't kill anyone lol

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Roll for number of steaks.
Last two are your number.

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>>41986824
>/mu/, /mu/ is good too.
fuck /mu/

Are vegans the superior race? I swear the best bodybuidlers are all natural vegan. Anyone else is trash and should actually consider suicide.

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>>41986440
>Never mind dairy is literally all sex hormones
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html
Also highly doubt the"milk=prostate cancer" entirely especially when in the article it says:
>Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem.
>The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of <68pg/ml the subjects in the Maruyama study would have elevated E1 levels to begin with, if the measurement was correct.
>difficult to tell
>unrealistic
and
>What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study.
>and animals are fed solely GMO-soy."
>what is grass/grain fed and free range
Also SHBG is inversely proportional to protein intake.
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>>41988396
Rollin

>>41989067
It might not lower test but who cares.. it's fucking horrendous for you in every other way. When will non-vegan /fit/tards understand. It's like their brains are so underdeveloped that they exist on a lesser plane of understanding.

>>41989079
You do not have the necessary knowledge to even speak on this matter. Your body doesn't take in complete proteins due to your vegan or vegetarian diet. Please enjoy your malnourishment.

>>41989225
Jesus Christ... the myth persists.

>>41989225
Soy and quinoa offer complete proteins just like any animal meat. To even suggest otherwise is to be a colossal brainlet. Plant-based diets are not only as nutritionally complete as an animal meat based one... but actually superior in most regards.

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>>41989225
It took me five seconds to google this

>>41989273
Google PDCAAS next

>>41989292
What am I suppose to make of this?
You have to eat more of vegetables to get your necessary proteins without having to take in 500x the amount of cholesterol and saturated fats you should

>>41989292
Um.. soybean protein is at 1.00 (100%) just like egg, dairy and meat. Are you fucking stupid? So veg-heads can get complete protein through just soy products alone.

>>41989325
>>41989309
PDCAAS tells you how close the protein matches human requirements and how well you can digest it.

Then you need to account for the Biological Value, which is how much of the protein in the food can be digested as an AA.

Ya soy isn't that bad. The rest are shit.

>>41989382
>soy isn't that bad
Literally the same as meat, dairy, eggs.

>>41986732
Stegosaurus mode

>>41986732
Why do people keep using this guy to represent vegans? I'm honest-to-God 100% certain he's not even human. Noe vegan I know has physical oddities like that, most of them look very healthy.

Are there any "part time meat eaters" on here or "95 percent vegetarians"?
I stopped eating meat 2 months ago for health reasons. I wanted to see if i could drastically reduce my meat and dairy intake and ive been able to do it.
The only time its an issue is in a social setting like a family bbq or going out to eat with the inlaws. I hardly have any options. Again, i stopped meat for health reasons, not necessarily for ethical reasons, or environmental reasons(which i agree is a problem in itself). I just feel like im a hypocrite if i eat meat once a week, but idk if i should feel like one.

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>>41989408
>tfw you lift so hard you become a dinosaur

>>41989479
You'll only feel like a hypocrite if you consider yourself a vegetarian or vegan. Personally, I can't even stomach meat anymore. The other day I grabbed a bite of chicken and it just felt so goddamn disgusting.

>le soy isn't bad meme

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/england-man-grows-breasts-after-drinking-too-much-soy-milk/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476

fuck off big soy shills

>>41989529
I've been drinking exclusively soy milk every day since 2007. I do not have man boobs. Phytoestrogens contributing to a severe hormone imbalance is literally the most bullshit pseudoscience I've ever read.

>>41989267
>>41989225
>>41989234
>>41989273
>>41989309
>>41989325
My masters in life sciences and degree in advanced care paramedicine disagree and my base hospital physician who I'm licensed under would have a field day with you retards.

>>41989597
Disregard you are correct in what you are saying>>41989225

>>41989529
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476

"In case anybody doesn't feel like reading the paper: This wasn't a controlled test of the effect of soy consumption on humans, this is a case study of the effect of extremely high soy consumption on one diabetic male. The authors wisely refrain from drawing any conclusions about the effect soy isoflavones on humans in general, but merely speculate that the "threshold for symptomatic testosterone decrease might be higher than in [nine previous studies on the subject]."
In those nine previous studies, the highest isoflavone intake of ANY of the 225 participants was 139 mg/day, whereas this subject ingested 360 mg/d. Based on isoflavone content of firm tofu, that means he was eating... 3 and a half pounds of firm tofu daily! Holy hell!
If there are any people out there who are eating 3.5 pounds of tofu per day regardless of your diet, I would suggest that you see a dietitian or at least buy a cookbook."

>>41989597
Enlighten us, then, mongoloid.

>>41989597
Let's see your degrees then

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>>41989597
> base hospital physician
Implying hospital physicians aren't all in the grips of big pharma.
Nice try, but I'm not falling for the meat-jew.

>>41989564
Bullshit let's see your gyno

>>41986769
Give me a quick rundown. I've never heard this guys voice and I don't plan on breaking that

>>41989529
>worldnewsdailyreport

literally the onion 2.0

Protip: people who are happy and healthy don't ordinarily have to print the words on their shirts.

>>41989695
Guy has mental issues. Give him a break. If anything, he definitely is healthy.

>>41986440
He looks weird as fuck.

>>41989643
Yeah, but you fell for the beta herbivore jew.

>>41989629
Your too far gone and from the sounds of it you seem to be a tantra hydra canabologist
>>41989636
Your not worthy
>>41989643
This I agree with but seeing as how I'm a citizen of Canada this is the governments problem and I literally have no say just like the doctors here

>>41986440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lffg88WDRg

>>41989754
*tetra

>>41989629
There is no point to engage when sheep have already began taking orders from their shephard

>>41986769
Even the blacks trying to present well are primitive.

>Diets were isoenergetic, with either 150 g lean meat or 290g tofu daily providing an equivalent amount of macronutrients, with only the source of protein differing between the two diets. Each diet lasted for 4 weeks, with a 2-week interval between interventions. Blood concentrations of sex hormones did not differ after the two diets, but the mean testosterone:oestradiol value was 10 % higher after the meat diet. SHBG was 3 % higher; whereas the FAI was 7 % lower; after the tofu diet compared with the meat diet. There was a significant correlation between the difference in SHBG and testosterone:oestradiol and weight change
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

>soy protein, regardless of isoflavone content, decreased DHT and DHT/testosterone with minor effects on other hormones, providing evidence for some effects of soy protein on hormones
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098

>soy product intake may be associated with the endogenous hormone levels in Japanese men
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

soy is literally prescribed to women as an alternative to direct estrogen treatment
https://www.scienzavegetariana.it/nutrizione/vnhl/LLsoy.html

>>41989382
there's half a dozen rating systems for protein quality. PDCAAS is the newest one and it comes after lobbying to make soy look good. the biological value is shit, the protein is inferior, but damn, this shit is so cheap and easy to grow we're already putting it in animal feed, imagine the dosh if we could get humans eating our cash crop

>>41986440
>not knowing that non fermented soy being healthy is bullshit cooked up by the food oil industry to sell more of their waste products.

That's why you eat lean meat, all the estrogen is contained in the fat. Get my fat from coconut oil and weekly grass-fed calf liver.

Vegans love to talk about superfoods but funnily none come close to liver, also a source of B12 the vitamin they need to buy at the store for their diet not to kill them. It's almost like we are meant to eat meat.

>>41989978
>implying that meat or dairy are any better than unfermented soy
I'd rather take my risks with soy than meat or dairy.

>>41990040
and that's why you'll never make it

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>>41986732
that fucking spine

>>41990031
I eat meat and even I have to take a b12 supplement.

>>41990061

You should eat liver then. Also a great source of zinc, copper and selenium, which you might be low in. Those minerals have so much benefits regarding hormonal health and cognition.

Also almost everyone is low in vit A since carotenes are poorly converted into retinol (usable A) and few eat liver. Another vital vitamin.

>>41986440
He's a vegan in roids.

>>41989754
*you're

>>41990115
You can get more than enough vitamin A from carrots, sweet potato, and kale.

I get enough zinc, copper and selenium since i eat a lot of various nuts (brazil nuts, hazelnuts, almonds, walnuts, cashews, pecans).

Just another example of a nutty negro that shouldn't be in our society
It doesn't end until he stabs a white person because they are white.

Small price to pay for diversity

Hey Vegayns I like your channel and your vegan recipes

>>41990213
Sorry I don't have a major in English since I believe it's a useless degree. Enjoy the lack of gains and your lack of knowledge when it comes to basic nutrition. At least you got me with the correction in my misrepresentation of the English language at least you've got something going for you

>>41986440
>>Are /fit/gays the most retarded human beings to ever exist?

nah most of us arent vegan

>>41986440
>see thread
>never watched his shit, decide to look into his vegan diet videos
>click video
>first min is him bullshitting about stupid, meaningless shit
>next two min is about his vegan breakfast
>next 15 min are about some legal youtube complaining, shots of his layabout loser gf, and equally dumb shit

STOP POSTING THIS FUCKER'S FACE. What the hell is wrong with you subhumans?

>>41990706
Not that guy, but you learn the difference between "your" and "you're" literally in the second grade.

The fact that you think such spellbinding knowledge requires an English degree speaks volumes about you.

>>41988396
Rolling

Didn't this guy bench 115 kg after 10 years of training?

>>41990115

>borderline toxic levels of a select few vitamins/minerals
>almost as full of cholesterol as eggs

The organ meme needs to die

>>41989652
Talks about hallucinating DAILY and anger/depression as well as how he walks around thinking about inflicting harm on everyone he sees and goes on a tangent about wanting to slit some guys throat if given the chance.

Then I stopped watching because I was bored.

>>41988396
rolling

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>>41990115

>eat liver

can't wait to get heme iron poisoning

>>41990801
kek

>get drunk
>order pizza
How do I break the cheese habit, vegan brahs?

>>41986440
>sex hormones
Wat

>>41989479
>Are there any "part time meat eaters" on here or "95 percent vegetarians"?
Present. I am eating a beef burritos right now. I have TVP in the mail, so if that stuff is really good I'll have even less reason to eat meat.

>>41989529
Every jewtuber says soy is safe. I know your sperg ass trusts at least one.

>>41989648
That won't happen considering vegans are too scared to post in /CBT/.

>>41989720
>going down 1 grocery store aisle instead of another is BETA
You fucking fag don't even backpeddle about you just joking. You're a numale.

>>41991784
>order pizza without cheese
>put vegan cheese on it instead
Other than that just don't eat cheese

I just think of the suffering that the cow went through to get the cheese and that's enough to deter me.

>>41991796
You're going to be severely disappointed if you expect TVP to compare to hamburger. I mean, it's alright to add some protein to your food but it's not going to fill the void

>>41990031
>doesn't even know that ancient humans had ill effects recorded from their bones from vitamin A toxicity from eating liver
Well well well well well well well

>Even plants eat meat
>Somehow eating meat is bad if we do it

>>41986440
I dont know about your country. But the milk in eu is regulated. You will find more hormones in vegetables than in milk. The amount is miniscule.

>>41990768
So you're watching a clear blog video instead of one of his 100 info videos? As if the shit isn't clearly labeled.

>>41991820
>You're going to be severely disappointed if you expect TVP to compare to hamburger
I already perfectly enjoyed Sprout's vegan beef burgers and chicken burgers.

>>41991820
>I just think of the suffering that the cow went through to get the cheese
Sorry to scare you but I couldn't care less about animals being butchered or raped. I am only vegan for health reasons. I also like the environmental benefits. Animal rights is very last for me. If the American government wanted to fuck up niggers and jews I would be happy.

>>41991842
Yeah but those are pre-made burgers. I assume you ordered the dry stuff that you make yourself? I made taco meat out of that and it was alright but nothing like normal taco meat. But then again all I did was cook it with taco seasoning, so I guess you could experiment with flavours and get something delicious

>>41991865
Even omnivores are telling me the shit is really good. I'm gonna have to find out myself. I have no plans to soak it in broth. Most of the taco taste people enjoy is simply from a multitude of seasonings. By the way, in my experience with soy (the best meat substitute) foods you gotta cook em longer than the instructions say to get that tougher meaty texture.

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>>41989873
nice

https://pastebin.com/aehtUJjF

>>41986730
keep sipping your dude

>>41986730
>I'm sipping my dude.
Scooby? Enjoy your AIDS you hellbound homo.

>>41986743
Meaning he looks worse now, because 3 years ago he just started being vegan, so he didn't lost all his gains yet

>>41991900
t. vegan false flagger

>>41989873

>serum oestradiol did not differ on the two diets
>Serum levels of testosterone and its metabolites did not differ significantly between the two diets.
>The FAI had a slight tendency to be lower on the tofu diet; however, as FAI was calculated and is very sensitive to the SHBG measure, the actual changes in free hormone levels are not certain.
>We thus found no conclusive evidence that short- term soyabean intake has an influence on the circulating concentrations of androgens

The context of the paper is also that they were investigating to see if soybeans could help lower prostate cancer risk, because

>The consumption of animal products, especially the intake of fat (Slattery et al. 1990; Giovannucci et al. 1993), red meat (Talamini et al. 1986; Giovannucci et al. 1993) and some dairy products (Talamini et al. 1986; Snowdon, 1988), has been associated with an increased risk for prostate cancer. In contrast, prostate cancer rates are low in most Asian countries, where soyabean products are frequently consumed

The second study is in the same context of cancer prevention, and as it was put, they tested isolated soy protein and saw minor effects.

The third study is a cross-sectional study which is the worst way you could research this, and they found negative associations between soy and estrogen, while their testosterone findings were barely statistically significant

Read your studies before you post them.

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>mfw nobody disputes the studies linked in VG's vids they just do ad hominem attacks.

>>41988396
>doing things solely to make people mad, and not because you just want to do those things
Whoever drew that was a fag, and you're a fag for posting it.

>>41991909
t. dumbass
I said that he lost all his gains on vegan diet, you cretin

>>41992003
>The results of the present study suggest that overall androgen activity, as measured by increased SHBG and lowered testosterone:oestrogen, may be lowered by dietary
isoflavones.
>Although serum oestradiol did not differ on the two diets, the lower testosterone:oestradiol after the tofu diet is consistent with our hypothesis that a soyabean diet may result in lower androgen activity and is likely to be related to the increase in SHBG. Since SHBG has greater binding
affinity to testosterone than to oestrogen

why must you be such a dumb liar? The title is correct and the end discussion also affirms with the title. The research is accurate and you are a liar.

>>41986769
If you actually dealt with schizophrenics before, you could see the telltale crazy signs in his eyes. Probably because he is a mixed breed too.

its pretty funny that the vegans have him as a star of their movement, kek.

>>41986774
Durianrider is even worse. Veganism seems to be mostly popular with damaged mentally ill people from what I've seen. A lot of them are also into SJW shit and hippy pseudo-science.

>>41992274
makes sense

>veganism makes people deficient in functioning
>veganism is based mostly on loose moral garbage used by the left
>those who are even too weak to eat meat that is offered to them nearly freely

so weak people, choose a philosophy that makes them even weaker, and even more insane. Maybe for purposes of genetic culling this type of thing should be encouraged for the left though, shouldnt it? Its a memetic, dietary weapon to make the left even more useless lol.

I mean, we know their "arguments" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rOb_z-yYrU)

So what would stop us from bringing the "morality" to larger chunks of groups to the left to make them even less whole, as the jews try to do it to the right?

>>41989419
>most of them look very healthy

yeah no

>>41986777
>just another anti-rapist that does not understand that not raping isn't for everyone

>>41992284
Yeah. Veganism and other forms of SJW memes are all based around guilt, or rather preying on the guilt-complexes of leftists. I don't think I'm alone in seeing the misanthropy in vegans, how often do you see vegans proudly declaring to prefer animals to people? They've managed to take their existing SJW guilt complexes for being white and middle-class, and transcended it to humanity as a whole.

Once people figure this out and see vegans for the SJW morons they are, they abandon their silly pseudo-science arguments and default back to the usual screeching that all SJWs do when cornered. It's amazing how quickly a debate on nutrition can devolve in accusations of being murderers and fascists.

>>41986732
dat dere hgh

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>>41986440
>So insecure he unironically wears that shirt
H-holy shit

>>41991879
>Coconut Oil being regarded as something to avoid...

If you don't get your ass out here with this bs....

>>41994147
>le let me le avoid science since it's newer than me
Hey Scooby

>>41990860
>organ meme
>Implying
>https://authoritynutrition.com/why-liver-is-a-superfood/

>>41993701
I love seeing vegans who are also pro abortion. Misanthropy indeed.

>>41993701
Well there are two options for this:

> go to sjw fester points and try to promote these things for diets to make the people weaker

because as non vegans who have to deal with their bullshit, who are also right wing, we got like literally 3 copies of different retarded leftists in our heads, basically mini souls, of the leftists who actually exists out there. With all the "arguments" and logic paths that exists, and then we have a whole assortment of snippets still of leftists thoughts. Of course what they dont realize that because we actually grew further, we also have a non simulated, actual right wing personality that surrounded these tiny area's, for the purposes of simulating attacks on them really lol

If we actually wanted to do harm to them, we could technically just invade their places, use the same arguments that they have, and guilt trip them into becoming even weaker faggots. Essentially depriving them even more of quality, and potency, making our conquests even easier

>just defend your own and make sure that they cannot fester here

is relatively easy to do and least effort. One could do both probably. But the first option would speed up the genetic death of those people. Might be a potentially good vector to defeat the whole spectrum of those people from our society. Your choice if you want to be extra subversive.

>>41986769
What the fuck, he's insane

>>41994221
>I love seeing vegans who are also pro abortion.
What do you mean? Should vegans also be against male masturbation? Why are you pretending to be against abortion?

Are we all going to ignore how lopsided his head is?

>>41992182

You're reading it but not understanding it. Again, they stated that their measurements were inaccurate and they didn't know the actual free hormone levels. Their guess was based on SHBG, which they didn't feel was accurate, and they said they couldn't tell what the free hormone levels were. Even their SHBG reading was confounded

>Since sex hormones and SHBG may be sensitive to weight changes, the interpretation of our results was confounded by the small change in mean body weight (0¥4 kg).

Again, read a study before you post it. Even better, read it in context and don't try to mislead people with it.

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>>41995566

>>41986440
>claim to be a man
>can't see that the meat industry wastes so much god damn food and soil
If you eat meat you're a liberal pansie