What is the real average male bench press taking into account

nowhere close to that

the average starting weight I observe at the gym is around 50 kg

The average male is definitely not benching anywhere near that

I'd be surprised if the average male could bench 100 lbs

>>41964590
So I'm probably correct and its mostly guys just massively inflating their numbers? I'd guess that most of the population cant bench their own weight let alone 1plate

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>What's your one rep max, bro?
>105kg
>Really? When I used to lift, back when I was 16, I was benching 120 bro

Every time.

180 seems like a reasonable average. But it's definitely not the median

>>41964541
i would say that is the max average in the gym.

most dudes don't actually go to the gym in th 16-35 range, hardly any fat fucks go to the gym older than that.

I would guess the average guy can probably do 1plate for one really sketchy ass-off-bench rep.

Maybe a bit more if the guy is a fatass.

>>41964541
Seems pretty average where I live, but there's a lot of factory workers and farmers here, so it's probably not gonna be the average everywhere

I feel better about doing like 140 pounds x10 now. I know that without serious bulk I'd never reach 1pl8 but I just wanna get to "working out with 180 pounds"

>>41964541
Worldwide?
Male population disregarding age?
Probably
>>41964590
10 kilos

It's hard as fuck to tell, most guys I know never do 1rm's and don't know what they *can* bench.

>"hey bro how much do you bench"
>"155 for reps, but I could probably bench 225 one time if I tried"

Recent convo with a friend.

>>41964974
Yeah well according to /fit the average browser is 6'8''+ and 300lbs+

>>41964541
it's feeling pretty summer in my gym right now so i'm not seeing many impressive lifts. lots of the beginners are still stuck <135lbs which is pretty sad desu. i was able to bench lmao1plaet as a 15 y/o twig faggot. still seeing guys bigger than me struggle with 185 which is more astounding.

>>41964541
if you're an average size guy and have done literally anything physical in your entire life, you should be able to bench press your body weight without ever training for it

if you can't you are either way too fat, or way too underweight

>>41965059
You are delusional fampai.
Average would be around 50-60kg.

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>>41964541

Lifting 13 months and my best is 185 for 4 reps.

My chest is absolute garbage.

>>41964613
That sentence didn't make sense. It should be can't bench 1plate let alone their own weight. Unless everyone has suddenly turned anorexic.

>>41965081
if you can do 30 or more pushups, benching your body weight one time should be no problem

do people not have gym class anymore? When I was in high school I can honestly remember maybe one normal sized male not being able to 30 pushups. Most of the people i know could bang out 50. This was before I ever lifted.

are you guys just a bunch of sedentary neets who think the entire world is like you?

I'm sorry but you are pathetically below average

>tfw 165x5 poverty bench
>tfw chestlet

Avg male that doesn't work out is between 40-60kg bench.
Avg guy that work... whatever, just check this site, it has that info.
symmetricalstrength.com or something, there's a table that has ranges depending on fitness level, age, and shit.

>>41965115
Iktf

>>41965013
I can do 155 for like 8 reps. I can put 185 up for a one gross rep. I feel like that's really weak still.

Guys how's my specs for 9 months of lifting? In lbs
>OHP: 105
>Bench: 185
>Squat: 285
>Dead: 405

>>41964621
>120, Really?
When I used to lift at the age of 3 I was benching a max of 235

>>41965115
Know that feel. 6 and a half months here and currently barely able to do 170 for 5x5. In my defense I've been cutting for the past 2 months so it's harder to go up.

>>41965013
Never understood the 1 rep meme. If you truly want to compare weights then choosing a number of reps you actually do on a daily basis is better.

>>41964974
>10 kilos
>The bar is 20
Nigga, how?

>>41964590
kg;dr

I forgot I wasn't on 4chan and asked a guy "can you spot me daddy". He was wearing headphones so I don't think he heard me. Still embarrassing :/

>>41964590
This

>>41964950
1 plate on each side is a 135 pound bench press.

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>>41965211
>>41965231
>they count the bar

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>>41965115
10 months here, hit 160lbs x5 today
deloaded more times than I can count

>>41964603
i mean the average male who has never lifted yeah, but there's a lot of blue collar people who do physically demanding jobs resulting in decent benches even if they don't lift. I'd guess average is 115.

I would say the average bench is over 100, but perhaps the average guy can't put up more than 100 - depends on if you're looking at average dude or mean of population.

>>41965202
the correlation is different for most, and some calculators just overshoot completely in 1RM calculations. 1 RM is the best way to measure strength

I just started lifting late may, so under a month now. I'm fat as fuck(6'2" 297lbs[was 392 in january]) and have never really needed strength for anything in my life. A few days ago I did my first 5x5 135lbs BP. Id' say thats a good average for gymgoers, but I doubt iot holds up for anyone who doesn't regularly go(Not including people with physically active jobs).

I might also be off a tad because I use the machine for it, given I have noone to go with.

>>41965286
Kind sir, it is common practice to include the weight of the bar when measuring a lift.

>>41965167
You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to list the weights that you can do 5 reps of, not your one rep maxes.

>tfw my bench stalled at literally 180

i'm only 5'7" but still. it's embaressing

>>41965312
use a machine for what? If you use a machine, you're not doing the lift

also, at 300 you're going to have a bit higher absolute numbers than the average non-fat 150 guy

>>41965350
The Smith Machine. I would be using free weights, but I've pinned myself on the bench enough times to want an exit plan.

>>41965312
>I might also be off a tad because I use the machine for it
Yeah, no, that doesn't count.

>>41965369
>pinned myself on the bench

why not just lift the weight off of you?

>>41965369
a smith machine bench press is not your bench press that you can state in forums bucko

>>41965369

Get off the smith machine asap.

Take that flat bench and set it in the power rack with safeties so you can bench for real.

>>41965231
Yeah I meant 2pl8, that's something I'm not reaching in a long time

>>41965421
The gym I go to doesn't have a rack, or I would be. Is a 3D Smith Machine at least a bit better?

>>41964541
Small percentage of people bench around 200 or more. Usually the only ones benching over 200 are also well over 200 pounds so that bench becomes even less impressive. The average is probably around 1 plate

>tfw only 150x7 at 144
>tfw manlet
>tfw chestlet

>thread samefagged to hell by a D- troll

>tfw can barely do lmao1pl8 at planet fitness with a 20lb bar and those annoying ass cables
>tfw 2years ago when I was in shape and at 24hr fitness my orm was 275 including the bar
Fuck

>>41964711
>two new terms i learned in math in grade school today
of course the median and the average isnt the same brainlet, why did you make me waste your time reading this post

I have long arms and a terrible looking chest and finally did 1 pl8 after a few months.

Judging from the people at my gym, discounting those obv on roids I'd day the average is 160 1rm.

With strict form for reps probably 145

>>41965594
>53 posts
>35 IPs
Meaning most people posted once or twice
fuck off

Yeah 180 being the male average overall seems like a giant overshoot. Its very rare to see guys repping that weight, not so rare to see guys who can hit it for one or two, but those are people who have been training for a while.

Also people saying but muh manual labour I guess haven't done a lot of manual labour, there are almost no situation where you need much chest strength, mostly a lot of back core and arm strength is required.

Id say with the twinks that I see walking around these days 100 lbs would be a more realistic average.

Does anyone here do 225 for reps? That has been my goal since starting to lift on and off for the past 3 years. I've been at 210 for reps stopped for a few months and had to start again at 175. I'm at 210 now, 3 sets of 8 reps, but as a fatass losing doing keto as I lift progress is slow. I hope to be doing 225 for reps by oct. or nov.

>>41965780
>there are almost no situation where you need much chest strength
Look at this tool with his tiny wrenches

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rofl? who the fuck includes the weight of the bar when they say how much you can lift...?

im a 6'5 lanklet that started from charlie's grandpa mode. my arms are a mile long desu

it took 3 months to hit 1 pl8 bench

>>41965885
Every sane person. Does the 45lb bar disappear?

>>41965900
the bar is implied dude everyone knows that lol

>>41965900
I suppose you count the weight of your arms too?

counting the bar in your weight total you might as well add in air resistance for the upward motion lol

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>>41965900
>>41965919
>not factoring in the buoyant force caused by the displacement of air from your bar+plates

Before I started lifting, I was naturally athletic and played sports my whole life, and my max was around 115lbs.

So 95-115lbs sounds about right for a regular male.

Dumb topic.

According to Symmetric Strength, an untrained 20 year old male at about 200 pounds should be able to bench press 105lbs. However, keeping in mind how much your lifts increase when you finally get the lifting form down efficiently, a beginner would probably be around 85 to 95 pounds.

>>41965659

Especially since this retard >>41964711 didn't even care to speculate which way the median would be. Fuckin normies.

>>41965178
Fucking amateurs I swear, I set the 120+ kg PL deadlift world record twelve hours after being born

>>41964541
At my peak physical condition I was only able to bench 305 at a meet in the 181 weight class. Just getting back into lifting this last year after a 2 year hiatus. I can only bench 185 for a set of 3 or 4.

>>41964621

Dude this is becoming so fucking common.

10 months training
90kg for 2 reps
68kg bw
Im happy
Wanna get to 10kg 1rm till end of 2017
Then ill stop powerlift training bench and sim for volume for a while

>>41965167
hahahahaha 120 lb difference between squat and pull... spotted the leglet

>>41965167
How do guys on this site have such ridiculous numbers? I've been lifting seriously for a few months now and my squats and deadlift are way less than yours.
OHP: 120
Bench: 180
Squat: 160
Deadlift: 240
What am I doing wrong brahs? I train legs just like the rest.

>>41966618
Can do these for 6 reps btw

>>41965489
No. Just lay the bar on your stomach when you fail, and roll the weight down to your thighs as it rests on your body. Sit up once it's off your torso, and stand up.

>>41965293
be me
tear acl joint
2 years on and off lifting bc idiot
back in it for 3 moths
225 lb flat bar 2 sets of 3
tooo scared to go heavier or try again
constantly hold self back for fear of re injury

>benched 135 for 6 my first time in the gym
>5'8 160 pound manlet

You faggots should've been more active growing up

I can progress linearly no problem when it comes to upper body, but my squat is seriously fucking pathetic. I can add 5 pounds per week if I have good workouts.

>135 press
>210 bench
>225 squat
>275 dead

>>41966684
i try to do this but some fucker always has to come help me the second i start the roll. it's almost more shameful this way. leave me alone NERDS!

Why wouldn't it be 180 on average? Anyone who's lifted regularly for 1+ year can probably do more than that and most non trained people are probably in the 130-155 range

>>41965623
Lol

>>41965900
This fucking guy

>>41966882
1) You overestimate the amount of people who even go to the gym. I did a Fermi estimation on shit like this a long time back here, and I'm not going to do it again, but basically even using insanely optimistic numbers and assuming every single person in a gym was a world-class roider, our numbers are so insignificant, it would barely budge the world average. Doesn't really matter what you're measuring: strength, size (the particular argument then was arm circumference). I could do an extremely simplified version right now. Say one BILLION people went to the gym, exactly half were dudes, and they all benched 315 while the rest of the six billion did not go to the gym, half were male, and they magically lifted 135. The average would still be 161 lbs. Even at all 3 billion males at 155 lbs bench, the average would be just shy at 178 lbs.
2) It's likely you're assuming too much of people who do not train, especially aiming for that 155 upper limit.

Holy fuck what is up with the anons IT who think 180 is impressive. I mean I don't think that's the male average either, but gym average? I think easily. I remember everyone in my high school weightlifting class could at least hit 200 ORM and people here say it's rare to see a guy repping 180 at the gym? I rep 2pl8 and I've certainly never seen anyone act overly impressed with that. And I'm certainly not the biggest or strongest guy at my gym lol

In 3 years of lifting I have seen maybe 4 guys ever hit 2 plate or more, don't believe any of the lies you see on /fit/

Average consistent lifter is usually doing no more than 155. Skellies and dyels can't even do 1 plate

>>41967103

You have to remember, these guys probably go to PF and not a real gym.

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>>41967173

I was doing 155 when I was 15 fucking years old

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>>41966618
>lifting seriously for a few months now
try thinking next time before you post.

>>41964541
The average is about 3lbs
because 99% of men have never done a single benchpress, so their number is 0, bringing the average way down.

>>41967173
>3 years at a gym
>only four guys benching lmao2plaet or more

what kind of weak, faggot gym do you go to

i'm a 145lb manlet and i can bench lmao2plaet for 3x5

>>41966618
You're just starting out, so you haven't had time to progress much. Stick with it and your lifts should balance out. If they don't, either your routine sucks or you're not pushing yourself hard enough on your lower body lifts.

>>41967317
Congratulations, you are one of the .00000001% of lifting 15 year olds

>>41967173
>Skellies and dyels can't even do 1 plate
as a skelly who is just starting out, I can confirm
my 1 rep max is about 110

>>41967359

No, there was a gym full of them at my high school

basically football player standard

I'm pretty sure you go to a worse version of Planet Fitness

>>41967348
college gym open to the public

>>41967348
also those e-stats mean nothing without proof, till then you are lying like the rest of this board

>>41966684
that sounds fucking stupid, rather use a smith machine than do this autistic shit

>>41967317
congrats, my friend did 240 at 16

>>41965115
Keep at it, bro. I was stuck at 185 for reps about a year in too. Do some incline, some chest flyes, and consider doing chest 2-3 times a week.

>>41967448

that's great for your friend man

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>>41967448
FAGGOT

>>41966092
that's really weak. when i started lifting I could do 135 3x5. I had worked a physical job before but you don't get a lot of chest activation in manual labor. I can't imagine it making that much difference.

>>41966618
>few months

People dedicate YEARS to lifting

>>41965115
Keep at it. I was at your point once. I started benching the bar. When I was up to 230 on my dirty bulk 3 years in I maxed 275.

Currently 285 X 4 or 315 X 1 RM @ 36yrs old 225lbs.

>>41967581
I started as a 140lb skelly belly with a 65lb bench.

Now I'm 160lbs and I can do 245x2 so I'm still a twink but at least my lifts are proportionally good.

>>41967327
funniest dude ive seen on youtube

>>41966865
Ask for a spot you autist, literally everyone at my gym bugs a random person to spot them regardless of whether their bench is 135 or 365

>>41965780

Depends on what you do. I have to do a lot of pressing motions at work. Although I agree that back, legs etc. Are used a lot more.

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I've been lifting for one year exactly and I benched a new max of 220lbs the other day.

Is that decent?

>>41964711
No way 180 is average, most gym goers can't bench 180.

>>41967448
I don't believe you (that you hae a friend)

>>41966631
I went back into the gym after a decade of not lifting after I had an ACL tear and 4 months of physical training and I dead lifted 245x4. It was the weakest time of my life.

You must not be really focusing on squats and deads if you have been at this for months.

I was 6'3 160 lbs when I started, did some pushups and pullps and whatnot but ate like shit and was a skeleton, my starting bench was 1 pl8 for 5 grindy reps.

>Ended first year of college
>first consecutive 9 months of lifting
>ended with a 225x3 personal best bench
>it's been a month and a half since I've been to the gym
will I lose all my strength gains?

>>41964603
>>41965308
Were both of you tiny faggots in high school? 100 wasn't even the weakest kids max in my weight training class. The average(150 pounds ish) freshman-sophomore kids started around 130 but quickly jumped to 1pl8 and above. Some of the seniors who had never benched started at 170-180. a grown man who just goes every once in a while should easily get a 180 max.

>>41968179
Yes but you'll get them back pretty quickly.
Probably in a month you'll be back to where you were.

>>41967435
>I'd rather pretend like I bench way more than I actually do and neglect the stabilizers,muscle symmetry, and core benefits that free weights utilize.
I bet you curl in the Smith machine too.

>>41967862
What's your bodyweight?

>>41965332
Literally no one compares 5rms to measure strength.
inb4 "powerlifting meme"

>>41965623
Who the fuck doesn't include the bar? You're lifting it, right? It weighs more than zero, right?

Inb4 "baited" fuck off

>>41968521
do you include the weight of your upper body when squatting?

>they didnt inject testosterone into their ass the first day they walked into a gym.

So many wasted hours from you cucks

>>41968587
Bottom tier troll

Pls go back to /pol/

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>>41965377
IMO it does count.

I've been fucking around in the gym on and off for around 2 years. I've been lifting consistently for 8 months and I've brought my bench from 55kg (121lbs) for reps to 95kg(209bs) for 1 rep. According to /fit/ that's dyel as fuck, yet there are only a few guys at my gym that lift around that weight. There is one guy that benches close to 3pl8 though and he's not even fat.

>>41964541
My 1RM is 315 lbs.
I am 275 lbs. and have been lifting about 2.5 years.

Most men aren't coming near that.

>>41964541
My buddy had trouble benching more than 50 kilos for reps but u gotta take into consideration technique. I guess 60-70 kilos is correct desu.

>>41970398
50kg starting off is pretty good. I know a guy who could barely bench the empty bar when he started.

>>41970413
Yes, and he could go up to 10 reps or more i think. He got Maxi's thumbs up.

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>>41964541

About 50kg, when I first started at age 15 I could manage 30kg. At 17, 90kg. At 18, 120kg, and at 24 185kg.

In my experience of training with newbies, going to commercial gyms and just in general watching other people lift, the average is around 30-60kg max, with 1 year - 2 year trained guys doing at most 100kg, usually 70-80kg. 3 years training I tend to see, for those who train a bit more religiously, 120kg max. So on and so forth, though the most I've ever seen anyone else do, apart from ym gym buddy (strongman) and a few powerlifters, is 130kg. They've usually been lifting 4 years +

Bench press is all about technique anyway, and I often see the majority of benchers with shit technique that makes my shoulders hurt to watch. Raw strength can be demonstrated with a strict over head press imo, and I only just manage 120kg OHP all time best. I'm 93kg 5'11 (pic related is me).

To really improve your bench just focus on frequency, technique tweaks, and pushing yourself.

But yea, the average guy benches about 50kg in my ancedotal experience, but I of course don't have any statistics to back that up. Who knows? Find a study comparing the average strength levels among healthy young males!

>>41965167
Really good numbers, you have a good powerlifting career ahead of you if you can get good wilkis numbers. Keep at it bruh. Again, I was benching 30kg when I starte, now I max 185kg. Yet to compete in the IPF but have in smalled feds.

>>41966618
You're new, keep at it. But keep training hard and progress routines as normal, eat enough (don't eat stupid high calories, eat to gain strength, not excess fat)

>>41966833
Suggests you aren't pushing yourself, get psyched up. Push yourself, video your form. Maybe invest in lifting shoes, a belt, who knows what's limiting you? Maybe your bench form isn't right and you can bench (with correct form) less than you think.

>>41970372
Jheeze, how tall are you to weigh that much? Look into sheiko btw, its great

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>bulked for 3 months and realized just how fat I already was
>Cut for 7, still cutting (152 lbs @ manlet 5'7 currently, goal is probably 145 - 140)
>Bench has basically been stuck at 155, just got to 165 3x5 recently
god FUCK THIS STUPID LIFT
Really hope the numbers are going to soar up once I bulk

>>41970472

Change your routine. Kelly baggets stuff worked for me while cutting. You're stalling so whatever routine you're on currently isn't working for your strength. You can gain significant strength while cutting.

>>41970460 here

>>41964541
I don't know if I was just weird but when I started I had problems with only bench press. I started with 30kg + 20kg bar and did it pretty well but as I started to get more weight I had problems with my left arm joint so I couldnt get over 70kg without injuring myself. On the other site I started Deadlifting 120kg and pretty fast was able to do 210kg (like only 7 weeks)

I was fat not skinny and had some jobs that required to lift heavy stuff but bench press was a problem for my wrist and arm joint and I consider to remove it and do some chest isolation.

>>41964590

I think 40KG would be more realistic. Most men who start their first training session ever are not even close to 50.

>>41964590
>this
the only guy i see benching over 1pl8 also plays football and the rest are just under 60kg, this might just be because i go to a commercial gym

>>41964621
Aye 105 and sometimes heavier on a good day with a spotter

>>41964541

180 is way too high. Your average fit (not /fit/ but regular fit) adult male can probably bench 155-180 for reps. This is not including the skinny faggots and the obese neckbeards. For every 315 bench press /fit/izen, there are at least 20 skinny faggots bringing the average down.

Also, asian countries like india and china have poor nutrition and small people. your average indian man couldn't bench 80 pounds, id bet.

I'd really like to know what average is for grills

>>41965115
>>41965293


Literally KYS or become a cardio bunny because clearly you don't have the genes for it.

>>41964734
>hardly any fat fucks go to the gym older than that.

That's because heart attacks.

>>41970528

The bar.

What are your chest measurements?

>46 inches
>2pl8 for reps
>2.5pl8 for 1rm

>>41970528
flys with 5kg dumbbell

>>41970541

Bar plus 5-10 each side max. Although you do see some normal girls getting up to 15 pounds each side.

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>>41965369

yeah thats not bench, thats like saying you can bench as much as you can chest press

>>41964621
Honestly that sounds believable. Both amounts are pussy weights that should be left to women.

>>41964621
>how much do you bench?
>180kg

Shuts them up every time. Almost worth the 8 years it took me to reach it.

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>tfw 110lb bench after 3 months lifting

>>41964603
This. In my experience most noobs can lift around 90-100lbs for 5. Some more like 80. With bad form...
Even then, they usually have no understanding of time-under-tension, or the importance of controlling the eccentric. Once you show them, they have to drop a lot of weight to get similar reps.
If they don't, they usually hit a wall pretty quickly and have to reset, only to hit the same wall again shortly after.
As for form, I see lots who barely hit their chest at all. Flailing elbows is usually the biggest issue. Putting a lot of strain on the shoulders and not using the triceps enough (probably same guys who say SS doesn't work arms) - shoulders come forward as they push.
Not using legs.

Advice to anyone who thinks this might apply to them. Your muscles have no idea how much weight you're lifting...

>>41965059
Bullshit. Most won't be able to squat their own body weight, or even dl it for reps. Forget benching it.

>>41965115
No worries senpai, it took me almost two years to go from 105 to 255 bench. It takes time, you'll make it famalam

>>41970517
Literally everyone I see at my uni gym and the Golds in going to in the summer benches at 1pl8

>>41965336
Manlets have an advantage on bench (and many other lifts). Range of motion, faggot.

Bench strength fluctuates pretty wildly, and it really depends on whether they mean training weight or max effort weight.
My maximum training weight was 305, my maximum effort tested weight was 335, I've cut weight for about 6 months since then and my current training weight is only 245 with maximum effort weight (estimated, not tested) is around 285-295.

>>41966618
You bench more than you squat? You're doing it wrong.

>>41967348
No you can't...

>>41965134

Lmao anyone can do 30 shitty pushups with their arms at a 90 degree angle to their body. No young girl is doing 50 proper pushups you moron, clearly if you still think that those girls were doing 50 legit pushups you are a lost cause

>>41967348

I would rather be my height and bench 1pl8 than be benching 2pl8 at ezmanlet mode

>>41970605
my nigga. the entire world is a shit show with everybody wanting to feel superior about anything they can.

>>41964541
>be /fit/
>current body threads full of dyels
>stats thread
>suddenly everybody squats 400lbs and 250lbs benchpress

>>41971537
welcome to summer

>>41964603
>tfw just benched 160 lbs today and still going up
Feels better.

>>41970560
t. guy that lifts neither

inb4 "150kg bruh"

>>41964590
I train 2 friends of mine who started lifting because of my huge progress over 4 years, both started with 35-40 kg, one weights 70 kg, the other 85.

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>>41968198
>weight training class
>average

>>41965115
It's alright anon, the average lifter hits 225 lbs in 3-4 years.

>>41965659
This made me laugh

>>41965231
>He counts the most likely incorrect weight of the plates

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>>41965211
>counting the bar
You will never make it anon

>>41964541
I bench 250 but it's good to know I can say 350 online without guilt

>>41967448
I lifted 315 for reps at 16

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>>41965929
>not factoring in air resistance
its what the pros do

>>41965780
This seems more reasonable. When i first went in to the gym i could only bench 40 kilo for 5 reps.

benching feels awful, wish I could only do OHP without becoming a chestlet

>>41964541
Most people inflate their numbers plus have terrible form. Unless you start making a proper research out of it, you'll never know. There are too many variables to find out

>>41965843
if you can do 210 try 225 for 3 sets of 5 just to get the feel of it in your hands and go from there

>>41967173
>i've seen multiple people bench 3plates for reps
>im friends with a lot of power lifters and football/ rugby player
>one of my close friend just squatted over 700lb
you need stronger friends m8. surround yourself with people you want to be like. if you go to a gym with mediocre lifters you'll think yourself strong and wont see a point in pushing yourself. If you're surrounded by men who are at an elite level then you'll push yourself harder to be like them.

I don't know what's up with everyone else but I got off the couch two months ago and I was benching 1 pl8 for 8 reps, now two months later I'm benching 200lbs for 5 reps and 185 for 8, mind you I tore ligaments in my ankle so I can't do any legs squats or diddlys, I'm doing a 3 day bro split but it still doesn't make sense that I'm progressing this fast ? Noob gains I guess?

>>41972267
I remember when this wasn't a meme and people were arguing about counting the bar without a trace of irony. Sad days.

On a somewhat related note:

I recently started improving bench press form (was doing it wrong for a few months) and have begun to notice a slight pain in my right shoulder whenever benching. Is this normal or am I still doing something wrong?

My bench is 225x5 and OHP 145x5. Tho my deadlift and squat are p weak at 290x5 and 240x5.

>>41973177
Post form. Elbows should be tucked at about a 45 degree angle. Flaying them out too much can cause shoulder impingement.

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>>41971645
I bench more than 150kg tho.. about 158kg..

>>41973177
possibly flaring your elbows out too much. tuck towards your torso, engage those lats

if you believe you're tucking enough then possibly inflammation. if the pain is increasing and function is decreasing then perhaps a larger issue

>>41967013
Yeah... when most people talk about averages, they should be talking about national or even smaller groups to take the average from. The average person in the United States is in like the top 10% wealth or something compared to the world, because there's so many poor and malnourished people in places like rural India.

Let's talk about average weights with people who aren't dying from iron deficiency

>>41973218

Don't have any recordings unfortunately.

I started arching my back more since I was keeping it completely flat on the bench. I was able to add 15 lbs extra in just a week by adding the arch.

>>41973232

So basically keep the elbows closer to the torso while benching?

Got it.

As for the pain, it normally will be at its worst for about 30 minutes after benching. Usually some mild DOMS in the shoulder the next day and I'm fine. No loss in function or anything.

I'm 6' 4 (1.94) and 225 lbs (102 kg).No routine for 8 months and I've started with :

Bench : 88 lbs (40 kg)
Overhead : 44 lbs (20 kg)
Squat : 88 lbs (40 kg)
Deadlift : 180 lbs (80 kg)

Now , like I said , no routine whatsoever for 8 months , I do pay attention to what I eat , try to hit at least 100 g of protein per day , less carbs and more fats.These are for reps.

Bench : 180 lbs x 5
Overhead : 135x5
Squat : 265x5
Deadlift : 350x5

Got a long way to go , honestly I feel satisfied but I know I should have been doing better.

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What fucking gyms are you guys working out at? I work out at a Y which I thought would be scrub city but nobody at my gym benches less than 1pl8 and there are at least a few people there with 3pl8+ benches. I have also never seen anyone ask for a spot or interact with another person in the weight room unless they came together. Everyone is seemingly a at least strongish autist such as myself.

>>41970605
That's cool, but I bench 190 kg.

>>41965115
Creatine my son

>ORM is 235 after a year
Am I gonna make it, bros?

>>41975721
>1 pl8
>40 kg plus bar

Isn't that the equivalent of a push-up for a small 60 kg guy? Normalfags can't do regular push-ups?

>>41973480
>unless they came together
So that song from the village people really is about gay sex!

>>41974631
I benched 200 kg back when I was a teenager, you're small time kiddo

Around 225 lbs is average

around 275 lbs is average

>>41964541
The only people I've seen benching 2pl8s and above are huge roiders, here, if you can't bench that within a month you're a low test female.

>>41970752
this
>>41966618
OP start doing your legs and back more before you become a meme. Seriously you have time to fix yourself

>>41965059

Nice psychosis

>>41970534
t. skelly DYEL

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>>41976036
>He doesn't bench 5pl8

>>41965887
im 6'4 keep it up, its a tough road but muscle looks alot better on us. i just hit 315 for one rep. long limbs suck for higher numbers

>>41964541
That's where I start when I haven't worked out in like a year. How weak are you people?

>>41964621
>Every time.


Probably because a 2pl8 bench is common as fuck. The two exercises everyone knows without ever stepping foot in a gym are bench and curls. Even retarded programming will get you to a 2pl8 bench if you're benching every time you go to the gym and trying hard for 2-6 months depending on your starting body weight.

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>>41977654
your a fucking moron, if you think people are reaching 2plates in 2 months.

>>41964541
for reps or 1rep max ?

>>41965013
>"155 for reps, but I could probably bench 225 one time if I tried"

He might not be wrong. I just did a 1rm a week ago for the fist time with 225lbs after doing 155lbs for 19. Started with 135lbs 1x20 and added 5lbs each week.

Reps build strength man.

>>41971537
It's kinda biased though, people with good stats are more likely to post in stats thread.

>>41977688
>SS squat 3x a week
> 1pl8 => 2pl8 in 6 weeks
>nub bench bro benching 3-4x a week
>can't get 2pl8 in 2 to 6 months

I've seen it numerous times. Just because you had to start with the bar because all you did was play world of warcraft when you were young doesn't mean a normal, healthy and active untrained male can't get a 2pl8 bench in 2 months.

Yeah, some little 130lb skinny fat NEET isn't going to get there regardless of their frequency and intensity, but a normal 160+lbs male can get there easy as shit if they're only focusing on benching like most newfags do.

>>41977779
There's a big difference between high frequency squatting and high frequency benching. The squat uses many more and much large muscle groups. The potential for strength progression in the squat is much higher than the bench press or press.

>>41978255
And smaller muscles recover more quickly...

Strength potential on a lift doesn't even matter sub 1/2/3/4 because the weight is so little that it isn't impacting recovery anyway and 24-48 hours is always enough to fully recover if you're sub 1/2/3/4 for a 1rm because your working weight is simply too low to warrant more recovery, regardless of the lift.

My argument is that the amount of energy SS followers put into squats is the same energy that newfags that aren't even on a routine are putting into the bench. The same way you can get a 3 plate squat in 2-6 months focusing on it hard you can get a 2 plate bench in 2-6 months.

The irony is that those starting on a newb program won't ever hit 2pl8 that quickly because they're only benching 3x every 2 weeks, just like the guy on no program will never hit a 3 plate squat because they probably aren't even squatting.

Obviously 2 months is on the lower end and that doesn't mean everyone can get it in 2. I figured giving a range would indicate that.

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>>41965286
if you don't count the bar 1pl8 is 90 lbs....

>>41970517
nigga do you lift in a concentration camp

>>41965115
You are like a little baby. I've been lifting for 11 months and still can't go over 1pl8.

>>41970493
This. People on here are so used to lifting they're detached from the physical state of normal people.

>>41965115
That is pretty good memes aside.

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>>41964711
>tfw I bench 180+

>>41965115
I'm at 7 months can only do 1x4 @180

>>41964621
This is further proof this board is the r9k of lifting. Not everyone who starts lifting is a fucking skelly you cynical fuck.

>>41965843
>>41972568
Better yet, go to 225 and just rep it. Set a goal for total reps/sets, and just work towards it. Every workout, do 24-30 reps (just shoot for 26), split up into as many sets as you need. Then just work towards reducing the sets.

>>41964603
the first time i ever was in a gym my 1RM bench was 115kg.
but i'm not a average guy anyways, 193cm tall and did LOTS of sport before i started lifting weights up and putting them back down.

>>41965167
That's fucking pathetic l

I started 9 months ago as well and bench 140kg
Squat 225kg
Deadlift 230kg

Say I'm roiding or lying if you want but some people are just strong and train better

I bet some of you guys think 3/4 days 45
Minutes sessions is acceptable

Try 1.5-2.5 hour sessions 4 days a week and you will see that the natty limit isn't what you thing

I'm 6'0 225lb

>>41965843
Yeah buddy, I do them as a warm up. 125 kg for set of 6 is my p.r. If you want to be good at bench just do that shit twice a week at least.

>>41970460
You look good dude, but not 185 kg bench and definitely not 120 kg ohp good.Either you bulshiting or you didn't go over 5 reps not even once in your life

>>41970472
switch up the rep range and stuff, it can be mentally draining to just hammer away trying to add weight at 3x5

>>41970609
good work youll get 2 pl8 by the end of the year!

>>41970609
cable flyes everyday lad

>>41964541
back in early hs days i was twink mode and got up to 185 1rm and i could have gone higher but i was limited by my cheap ass department store standard bar and bench press machine that costed like $200 total. i weight like 150 lbs or less back then. almost any skinny twink male could hit 2plate with practice but bulking up would make it much easier.

>>41970560
>women's world record IPF bench is 151kg
>120kg is pussy weight for women

People like you honestly should be executed. You have a mental illness that's toxic to everyone around you and the world would be better off without you.

>>41964621
I had some old guy earnestly tell me the other day that he was deadlifting 850lbs in his early 20s. Does he honestly believe that or is he going senile?

>>41977707
lmao you are literally doing it wrong

>>41980980
I'd believe he benches 185kg if he's tall. I'm pretty lanky at a 6'3 wingspan and still look like a skelly with a 125kg bench.

>>41970460
>5'11 93kg
Looking solid, anon. Goal body for sure.

What are your squat/deadlift?

The highest I ever see are fatties doing 2 plates, but it's usually between 95-185 with most usually doing *around* 1 plate.

I do however see some doing 1 plate for reps on the incline bench.

I only do 145 for reps myself but I'm expecting that to go up a lot since I'm bulking.

>>41964590
At my college gym the average guy was benching a pl8 and a 10, so 155lbs. But that's the average gym goer, so the actual mean is way lower.

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>all these people saying only fatties can do 2pl8

I'm skelly as fuck and smoked 245 yesterday. Can probably hit 275ish when I max in a few weeks.

>>41984361
Nice form. You're gonna make it.

>>41965314
>>41979528
Spot the newfags

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>>41984361
Pushing that shit up with your stomachache

>>41984369
T-thanks you too, bruh

>>41980635
Shut the fuck up dude you're 225 fucking pounds

>>41984402
You, my friend, are the one who is unfamiliar with the repeated jokes of this online community.

>>41984447
>not even weighing 200lbs
why even bother living? lmao

I have just started exercising and have literally never done a chest press. What's a good starting weight? I can do 3x10 dumbbell presses with 40s.

>>41984554
post body fatso

>>41967630
>benching the bar
>making progress
yeah been making som nice ab gains from wind resistance while walking home from work today

>>41984361
no lift

also manlet

I benched 275 the first time i stepped in the gym wtf is wrong with you numale faggots

>>41984572
so you can rub one out? I don't think so gay boy

>>41965115
delete this right now

I've been lifting roughly 1.5 years and can barely do 80kg 3x 5

>>41964541
i'm a therapist in a hospital setting. the amount of old men who claim to have benched over 2 plates back in the 70s/80s would astound you.

>>41967448
i was doing 400 close grip paused controlled eccentric for sets of 20 when i was eight years old. better tell your friend to step his shit up.

>>41964541
after one year of lifting my orm is 255 why is 180 average hard to believe?

>>41971740
>average lifter hits 225 lbs in 3-4 years.

if you start from a skelly NEET gamer, sure.

>>41966359
Lel, maybe normies are impressed by that shit. Don't post here anymore unless you actually start to lift.

>>41965369
Do you go in the middle of the night that there's noone to ask for a spot?

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>>41965369
>using a smith machine at all

>>41967549
If you can't solve something with brute force, you're not using enough of it.