>ITT we talk about how to grow the most aesthetic muscle group: Shoulders
NATURAL edition
As a natty, what exercises have you experienced give the most shoulder growth? As we all know the standard Overhead Press alone is not enough to build juicy delts
I've found seated (sm*th machine) behind the neck heavy OHP explodes my shoulders, followed by dropset lateral raises
I firmly believe that shoulders need to be trained frequently for growth. Following a fullbody routine 3 times/wk is simply not enough volume for good shoulder growth
alternating lateral raises
6 reps rear delt lateral raises
6 reps regular lateral raise
5-7 sets
Literally just do lateral raises every workout.
This will add mass to traps, neck and shoulders.
If you're body building, the 3 exercises you should do EVERY TIME YOU ARE ABOUT TO LEAVE THE GYM even just for 3 sets are calf raises, forearm preacher curls and lateral shoulder raises.
These muscle groups can take a beating and make you look more masculine and more well rounded.
Otherwise, carry on with your workouts like you usually do.
>>41891991
do you ever bump your head doing behind neck Ohp?
i guess smith machine is good for that because seems dangerous if u fail a rep
>>41891991
Are lateral raises okay with bad shoulders? My left one pops when I raise it laterally beyond 90 degrees.
>>41892191
No, but I've missed my traps before and dropped the bar on my neck. Was sore for like 2 weeks.
>>41892223
Don't raise it beyond 90 degrees. Lat raise should stop AT 90.
>>41891991
OHP 2 pl8 then show me if your shoulders are small
>>41892191
nah the seats are ever so slightly leaned back so the bar fits nicely between the padding and the back of your head. the shoulder activation is insane compared to regular OHP
>>41891991
Do lateral raises EVERY SINGLE DAY youre at the gym, unless you train 7x/week. They can handle it, obviously low volume
>>41892248
I can push-press 240 and am nearing 200 for a strict triple and my shoulders are lackluster. Strength training is a meme.
>>41891991
>NATURAL edition
>kinobody
Haven't seen those videos from a few months ago when he went off cycle and was deflated and dyel as fuck huh?
Anyway, more sets/volume = more gains for shoulders.
BB OHP for 5 sets of 12-20. Start with a weight you can do for 20, that's your starting weight. Once a week add 5lbs and try to get more reps than last week. When the reps get hard, resting with the bar in your hands/overhead to get a few reps is fine. Rest 3-5 minutes between sets.
Doing this with just 70lbs for something like 20, 17, 15, 15, 17 is nearly 3 tons of volume and has by far made the most different in my shoulders and traps. This is on top of heavy benching.
Lateral Raises 5x10-20
Face Pulls or Rear Delt Flies 5x10-20
These done 2-3 times a week.
If you want something to stand out you have to put a lot of work into it for a while. It's going to take a few months to get them popping, but as long as you're putting intensity and tonnage into the muscle group you'll get results.
>>41892421
>tonnage
Ya blew it.
>>41892442
>literally talking about volumes in tons
>tonnage is dumb/wrong
bump
>>41891991
Train them at least 3x a week, they're such a small muscle that they don't even grow for more than 40h.
Also, don't do ridiculous volume each time you train them, just 2-5 sets will do.