/fraud/ - 383 replies and no new bread edition read all of

>>41880847
You make 3k net a month with that job and no education?

you pay taxes? you suck bbc? How do you do it? that's more than someone with a master would earn

Where do I look if I want a gf that will smoke weed and play video games with me on days off?

Should I do tinder and okcupid and shit? Like IDK where to find these kinds of girls. Give brainstorming please

>>41880927
People used to go outside, engage in hobbies and begin friendly conversation with the opposite sex.

Try that Romeo

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>>41880927
>these kinds of girls
girls who play video games and smoke pot? Wherever 19 year olds congregate.

>>41880939
Like that's my point. I want an introvert who doesn't do that shit, but instead stays inside with me to smoke weed and play video games.

Just combing from whatever chick you happen to run into and find physically attractive and manage an exchange of contact info etc. Seems like an inefficient way to go about it.

so feeder workouts are not a meme after all?

>30 mins on the preacher curl machine
>30 mins doing pulldowns that target my tricep

been over 2 days and i still have a bit of doms and my arms are still a bit like jelly.

>>41881001
That's basically what I'm asking, yeah. So where do I look?

>>41880913
It's called working your way up, I'm not just an orderpicker.
Currently foreman of the entire freezer and handling returns on the side.

Aside from that I sell some gear from time to time at criminal prices for an extra 200 a month and flip pokemon cards for an extra 300 bucks a month.

Whats your pay like then?

>>41881027
Mirin man. I know people at master level that are not even close to that after years of work.

How many working years do you have under your belt?

Not even close to that. Normally, people with a MBO degree should be happy to make 1100. I did HBO and pre-master and make 2k start salary.

>>41881024
Pretend to be a student at a college.

>>41880847
Where do I find a grill that actually does cooking and cleaning stuff on her time off from her part time job, instead of sitting around being a lazy slob on the computer and Netflix all day? That's what last gf did.

>>41881100
Just 2. It was the biggest fucking shitshow when I entered and was about to leave when I had this idea of sucking it up and fixing everything wrong.

All the old crew had left and we replaced them as the new staff with almost no proper training.
Just a crew of 3 guys but we get shit done.

It all went so fast and I'm suprised it hasn't blown up in my face yet.

Pay for just orderpicker in the freezer starts at 1800 netto, I would never work for 1100 kek.

>>41881153
I have no clue, I got lucky I guess.
Also a throwing a bitch fit and denying sex works when lazy.

>>41881024
Do you have friends that like that shit? Do their girlfriends like that shit? Do their girlfriends have friends that like that shit? There's your target pool. It's always easier if you have an in.

>Day 3 DNP

I sweat so fucking much last night. Don't feel much at all, just a little warmer idk maybe placebo. Maybe its bunk

s m h

>>41881257
>Also a throwing a bitch fit and denying sex works when lazy.
whats it like to be in a relationship with someone who actually wants to have sex with you?

>>41881280
you're only at 250mg aren't you

>>41881258
Nope live somewhere new and basically have very limited free time. Not sure how I would go about finding people with similar interest of staying inside and playing video games on drugs.

>>41881316
Amazing really, but tiresome.

We tend to swap lust from time to time and it's a bitch to manage when one person wants it and the other doesn't.

Also, fucking her sore till she is barely unable to walk the next day leaves her wanting for more.
Number one mistake is being in it just to cum for yourself.

>>41881100
After this year I'll be coming out with a bachelors at 21 hoping to at least start off with 50k a year.

>tfw exgf and I were cuddling yesterday
>It's winter her in Aus
>"Oh my god you're so warm."
>hugs me tight and wraps her legs around me

Th-thanks tren

>>41881757
Thank Tren when you finally rail her like the man you're supposed to be or when you ditch her.

Don't get me wrong, I know everything is alot more complicated then it looks but fuck are you being a total beta in this whole situation.

I like you and want to like you you dummy, why do you make these decisions all the time.

>>41881966
I think my decisions so far have been alright. Hindsight is 20/20 but so far I couldn't be happier with the results.

>>41882009
Eh I'm happy for you man, and hope it works out.

Week 3-4 of no gym baka I look terrible but still strong.

>>41882009

mirin confidence

>>41882009
Keep it up then.

It just sounds like many of those "i want my ex back" stories, which never work out.

Will root for you.

Also, hows the Tren treating you?

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Oh so I've been taking 6grams of l-arginine a day boners have been crazy and getting comments on vascularity but I've also dropped like 18lbs.

>>41882292
Tren is fine. Got some minuscule lactation for one day, then my caber arrived. Definitely warmer, sleep less but nothing major.

Not really feeling any sort of psychological sides. I might be a bit funky emotionally though.

>>41882298
Clean your fucking mirror for fuck sake.

>>41882313
Tren kreeps up. I keep a mood diary for this.

I always notice the effects in hindsight.

>>41882298

Like how broad you are. Make a sharper picture next time.

>>41880877
>he saved the picture I made

Thanks dawg

How's everyone doing?

Down to 236lbs, was 260lbs a few months ago. 250mg test/week just to preserve muscle and keep everything tight solid juicy.

Cant believe i let myself get that fat. Being on roids, even lose dose, is amazing.


>>41882408
the fuck r u talking about weve had that picture for like a year dont tell me you seriously havent seen it here?

>>41882444
I made it though lol

>>41882339
>Make a sharper picture next time.
lol that filter is 100% intentional, it's to make it not as obvious that he looks like shit

>>41882332
>>41882339
Gym mirror also a shit gym.
And I'll have better pics when I get s new phone my camera is busted :/

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>>41882512
Here man filter free and I admit on the daily that I still look like shit so lurk more.

>>41882562
take a picture with your camera, not with instagram and that shitty filter applied on top of it.

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does test increase appetite and body/facial hair growth?

>>41882692
Yes

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how old were you when you starting pinning?

my pinning game sucks dick. every time i do it i seem to go in at a weird angle so pulling the needle out feels really fucking uncomfortable.
h2 not suck at pinning, lads?

>>41882777
Have you ever hammered a nail? Like that.

>>41882824
tried it. now i just have a bunch of holes in my quad

>>41880913
I make 7k a month with no college degree

Sometime next year have a chance to make over 10k a month but with this job and whats expected shit is hard yo.

>>41882873
>Hammering a nail
>Multiple holes

>>41882895
america != netherlands

You could try jacked and tan if you're still looking for a somewhat pling style program that also has ohp as a main lift.

>>41882963
>>41879838
FUCK

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How do you guys lift differently as frauds vs natty? Assuming the goal is just to get yuge

Does it make more sense to do 5x20 since it's all about muh hypertrophy and muh time under tension? Or do you just do your natty routine and enjoy better recovery etc.

>>41883034
I do what it did naturally just do alot more sets (i like drop sets and rest pause). Rest when I feel its required which is dependent on how much sleep I get.

I regularly do isolation with 20 rep sets but it's always with a weight heavy enough that I need to rest pause.

On a side note I've ordered melatonin 1 for improved sleep. Can you desensitise yourself with over use?

>>41882963

I'll give that a read. I'm mostly looking for something that would allow me to spread my work out to more days. My current upper/lower split looks like this:

Tue:
press, bench variation:
bicep, tricep, and shoulder isolation

Wed:
squat
deadlift variation
back, lat, quad, and ab isolations

Fri:
bench
press variation
bicep, tricep, and chest isolations

Sat:
deadlift
squat variation
back, lat, quad, and ab isolations

Cardio every training day (15-20 minutes at the end). Main lifts are a basic linear periodization (top set, two ~5% drops with matched reps). Isolations (except abs) are done kind of like Serge Nubret's style of training, partially because I'm coming back from a wrist injury and can't do a lot of heavy stuff.

I guess my main problem is that squats and deadlifts leave me completely gassed, so it takes a long time to get through the workout. I really push on the AMRAP sets, so I need a lot of time between sets (5-7 minutes) and some time between exercises. Today's lower day took me a little over two hours, because squats and deadlifts each took about forty minutes, including warmups.

Maybe I can improve it with conditioning work or something.

>>41883152
Is what you're doing working for you? Because if so don't fucking change anything. If you're making progress right now keep on doing what you're doing until you can't consistently make progress.
That being said, have you tried carb loading the night before your squat/deadlift sessions?

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>>41883083
>I do what it did naturally just do alot more sets (i like drop sets and rest pause). Rest when I feel its required which is dependent on how much sleep I get.
>I regularly do isolation with 20 rep sets but it's always with a weight heavy enough that I need to rest pause.
Cool thanks for the feedback

>Can you desensitise yourself with over use?
I actually looked into this a while back apparently the doses people take are too much and idk if it leads to desensitization but if the compound doesn't clear your system in time (due to the crazy dose taken) it can lead to accumulated grogginess with overuse (personal experience now).

http://news.mit.edu/2001/melatonin-1017
>The researchers also discovered that the typical health food store dosage of melatonin, which is about three milligrams (or 10 times the dosage in the study), is less effective in treating insomnia. In addition, the higher dosage can cause potentially serious side effects, including hypothermia (low body temperature). The study also showed that the higher dosage elevated plasma melatonin levels during the day, which can cause a "hangover" effect in some of the subjects.

>>41883152

Also, it's worth noting that I don't have to do more than one isolation per muscle to get stronger right now, so I'm only doing one each.

I'm only on TRT, and I won't be doing my first blast until at least August. I'm also not bulking. Still getting stronger, though, so I'm not too worried.

>>41883201

Yeah, it works well. I completely botched my last training cycle (experiments that didn't work out), but the one before it was just like this, and I put about 100 pounds on my total over three months while cutting.

It's easier to recover when I have more diet control, but I moved back home after graduation, and I just have whatever mom makes. All I want is to eat nothing but steak, rice, and broccoli. Alas, not until I move out.

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>>41880877
Am i /fraud/ yet?

>>41883034
i do a back/chest, shoulder arm, leg workoutsplit 2x a week

i change the excersises a lot each day but basically do 1 heavy as shit till i almost black out exercise and 2 as often as shit till it hurts like hell and then 5 more reps per bodypart
staff got me a bucked i should keep around if i ever have to puke again, happend before will probably happen again

>>41883152
You could literally just increase workout frequency, increases weekly volume substantially.

Instead of xxABxCD just abxcdx, that's a 16% increase in weekly volume and frequency on its own has benefit.

>>41883034
Train similar just with a hell of a lot more volume tolerance.

Use more variety of lifts too to avoid hurting joints.

>>41882298
what the fuck. why even share a picture if it's this shitty. if you were trying to impress someone, you failed miserably. looks like your are showing off your fucking phone.

>>41883294
thats no steroid thats just a deug, so no you arent a fraud you are just a junkie

ive had it being mediocre, i want to go full blast and turn into granite.

ill start up at 2.5g test+eq mix and 40mg sdrol and work my way up.

>inb4 natty lookin pieces of shit spouts anything bad about doing more than 1grAm or muh diminishing returns

>>41882777
just pull out super fast. who cares

>>41883311

I don't need to add volume right now, though. I'm getting stronger with my current volume.

>>41882895
omg we care.

>>41882298

>dat giant phone

sorry you got stuck at 5'2

>>41883400
The more volume you accumulate the more work capacity you have for lifts 70-85% and your strength block, the better your strength block the better the peak.

Build the pyramid from the bottom up. Biggest benefit of aas is improved work capacity and recovery. Make use of it.

>>41883380
dw anon I fully support reckless behavior. I start my tren blast tomorrow, I have both winny and sdrol and I don't know whether I want to run winny OR sdrol a few weeks break and then winny at the end.

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What are some good apps for the iPhone besides tinder? I just got one and was coming from Android which I may switch back to because it seems like you /have to/ jailbreak these to have any freedom.

>>41883410
Yea man I'm short I get it

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is oversleeping a thing? on cycle now, was sleeping 10-12 hours a night, woke up groggy, had fuck all energy through the day, was always feeling rested

had 6 hours sleep last three nights due to busy days, havent been in a bad mood since, full of energy, motivation, heck im even helping the housework

Fucked exgf.

I threw up after because 0 cardiovadcular capacity. Thanks tren.

She cried of happiness

>>41883817
took you long enough

>>41883817
Exgf also commented that my pecs were bigger. Thanks tren

>>41883817
Legitimately happy for you bro

>>41883817
now dump her

>>41883817
>I threw up after
Its because youre gay

>>41883855
It's always happened. I always feel sick after sex. Only ever thrown up 3-4 times though.

>>41883860
But how many dudes have you banged

>23
>No sexual experience because reasons
>Suddenly come into myself, confidence as well as social apptitude and physique (this is fraud)
>Decide to use dating apps
>Lots of 5-6s down to chill already

What the fuck do I admit I'm a virgin or do I pretend I know what I'm doing and hope.she just thinks I'm retarded?

>>41883817
As much as we rip into you, some of us had hopes because they know those feels.

>>41880927
>smoking weed
>playing videogames
sounds like your typical bottom-of-the-barrel white trash GF, so dating sites as you mentioned + bars, and you'll meet one eventually, guaranteed

cheap place to get needles? and whats your opinion on 20ml bottles

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Is 16 weeks too long for a first cycle? I'm running 500mg Test E per week.

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>>41883582
Send that girl to my house, right now

>>41883817
she cried of happiness after sex?

>>41883932
Obviously not as a sole.pursuit in life my man.

>>41883860
You're in it to get her back though right? Fucking my ex after the break up did not go well for me hope it works for you truly.

>>41883940
your local needle exchange :^)
>20ml bottles
Nice if you're homebrewing and pinning something like a gram+ of prop a week at a low concentration. I suppose they would also be nice if you're homebrewing equipoise and intend to run a fuckload of that.

6'0 220 20% body fat
been lifting for 3 years

About to start my first anavar cycle because im too much of a pussy to ever pin.

Im taking 50mg, then 100mg for a total of 8 weeks.
starting arimidex at 3rd week.

Anything other precautions i should take?
Im already down 20lb in the last 24 weeks, so i know my diet is good, but my strength is finally starting to really drop and im hoping this will help a bit.

>>41883817
Being a whiney bitch actually works wtf. But seriously good for you don't fuck it up again.

>>41883984
That also threw me but hey girls are nuts

>>41884113
You should kys

>>41884113
have you considered reading the fucking link at the top of the thread before asking retarded questions?

>>41884113
REEEEEEEE

>>41882298
>can't take pictures worth shit

>>41884113
N!ce b8 m8

If not bait your stats are disgusting and you should >>41884133

>>41884113
why would you take adex w/ var only dummy

>>41884113
heres what will happen

>weeks 1-4 will be good, you will see gains, strength, etc
>weeks 4-8 your natural test will have crashed by now, running 100mg would have dropped HDL and thrown LDL up, you wont feel the damage because lethargy will be attributed to low test
>you will want to get bloods done around week 6 to see how bad youve fucked yourself up doing this stupid cycle, but you will put it off because youre a pussy
>weeks 8+ you will come off the cycle, maybe keep half your gains (which will be underwhelming, mind you), and will decide that in fact /fit/ was right all along and you need to inject your gear to make worthwhile progress
>you come here 6 months from now asking how to run a proper cycle
>we will tell you the same shit
have fun!!!
ps. 25g needles are literally painless
nurses use 21g usually

>>41881280
>I sweat so fucking much last night.
>Maybe its bunk

sounds bunk, you should try upping the dose. take 2 pills every 2 hours until you feel it.

>>41884203
no bait, just dont want to pin.
Ive been lurking for a while, and have read the wiki, but tbf its pretty overwhelming. Considering youve been the most helpful, what can i do to make the most out of my fairly mild cycle. Keep the cycle shorter? Keep it at 50mg?

I didnt just pull it out of my ass, alot of people recommended that cycle to me on leddit as a starter

How long can I run 600mg test without seriously harming my health

>>41883984
Yes.

>>41884412
22,4579 weeks

First month of cycle, major beard spreadage

Second month of cycle, no improvement whatsoever

wtf is going on

>>41884412
Louie Simmons is still alive
So 30+ years I think

>>41884352
my advice is this;
if you dont want to pin, dont touch steroids
its not overwhelming, trust me i was shit scared like you, hadnt had a needle in a decade, but i manned up and took the plunge
25g goes in smooth as butter, never felt pain or discomfort, the most irritating part of the process is putting away everything after im done
i STRONGLY reccommend doing the basic first cycle (test e 500mg/w) you probably wont believe this, but compared to your anavar cycle it's healthier, with more gains. only downside for you is having to take 10 minutes out of your week to pin. trust me when i say, after the first you wont be bothered anymore.

now if you decide to ignore the advice thats been shoved down your throat not only by me, but other people who have used (most people on reddit wouldn't advise anavar only, don't listen to those few who have told you it's okay) realise that anavar isnt the safe drug you thought it is. it's toxic. running it at 50mg is okay. running it at 100mg will not be. no pct? using arimidex? do you know if it will aromatise? if so how much? will you crash your estro? good luck diagnosing without bloods (protip: you probably will have crashed), how sure are you its not winny? UGL flog off winstrol as anavar for profit since they're similar. would you feel comfortable doing a winny only cycle?

==

please heed my advice, its your body, your choices, but if i was in your shoes i know i would have loved for some stranger on 4chan to spend 5 minutes of his day to type out a rather lengthy reply to wake me the fuck up and prevent me from doing a 'cycle' that will put me two steps foward three steps back

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>>41884456
try month only cycles with rest inbetween

>>41884500

honestly,

just go straight for tren. the standard first cycle of 500 mg/w test is too much estrogen. the low test, high tren cycle is just so awesome, why wait until your 3rd or 4th to do it. just start with a low dose of tren the first time then ramp it up as you get a feel for it. always keep test at a TRT level, about 100-150/week is plenty. start with maybe 400/week tren first time. You should not need an AI on cycle at all with this. Using an AI on cycle is really hard to do without getting regular bloods. Why not just keep test at normal levels and let the tren do its magic.

>>41884634
do not listen

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>>41884558
but how did he get the marijuanas in that syringe?

>>41885245
you can take the plunger out friend.

1-4anadrol50
1-10 test 800mg
Arimidex as needed
10-14 clomid and nolva

Should be fine for first cycle?

>>41885308
500mg test is fine enough i think

>>41885308
kys

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Been shooting 1 ML every 4 days of this. Its been 3 weeks so far.

what should i expect.

>>41885476
kys

>>41885492
u2

>>41885560
but do they have steroids in heaven? :^)

>mfw when slept under 20 hours the past 5 days

fucking tren

>>41885476
when do i take anti estrogen pills?

>>41885674
always

>>41884430
Does this mean you'll finally stop being such a whiny bitch every day

>>41881004
>Like that's my point. I want an introvert who doesn't do that shit, but instead stays inside with me to smoke weed and play video games.


you sound like a loser. Your potential girlfriend will be fat, kinda ugly, and a loser too. I wouldn't even worry about women if I were you. Get your shit together, son. Vidya and weed all day?

how much money a year does it cost? (needle steroi

proper cycling, lab work, needles, gear, etc combined?

>>41885900
Find out how much it costs from your source. What dose you want to take. How long you want to stay on and how long you want to come off for, ancillaries costs, pinning schedule and pin cost then using basic math to multiply it out to a year.

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> cutting on 2000kcals
> just binge ate an extra 2000kcals because my mind completely turned off and primal urges took over

Welp, looks like tomorrow is just chicken and whey

>>41885940
I don't know shit about it right now. Haven't done my research yet. I was just wondering about an estimate, like $500 a year or $1200 a year-- and will I be spending this for life due to my natural test dropping?

>>41880877
R8 babby's first cycle.
Weeks 1-10: 400mg Test E per week
Weeks 11-12: Nothing
Weeks 13-14: Nolva 40/40/20/20

I have arimidex on hand in case of puffy nips.

>>41885980
Whenever I overeat, I never under eat the next day. I just do a couple sets of sprints and a little extra cardio.

>>41885831
Not at all.

Did have sex again and came on her face. So that was neat.

>>41885987
Natural test wont drop (except for ageing related decreases of course) unless you have an underlying condition thats going to give you low test anyway.

>>41886058
>thinking any sort of exercise will burn off over 2,000 calories

What kind of bizzaro land do you live in?

>>41886125
I hope you wore a condom

>>41886151
Lol nope.

>>41886155
>Letting that dumb bitch drug you

Are you dumb?

Women secret oxytocin in their vagina, they literally use their pussies to drug men and cloud their judgement.

>>41886141
Never said the intent was to burn off the entire amount, m8. Just going harder the next day at the gym.

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>tfw was in a hostel at 3:30am just watching shit on my phone lying in the sofa with hot tea
>some underaged cosplaying girl with a bigass alpaca plushie's been there for maybe 15 mins
>have to clean my shit as per the rules so head to the kitchen
>we both make eye contact
>"that's a nice alpaca you got there"
>when I come back from cleaning the shit she's gone

Lads my confidence is completely shattered, she probably thought I was some dyel autist piece of shit ugly incel.

I'm doubling my blast dosage now and turn into a granite statue, maybe then I can finally pick up underaged girls with really weird wigs and japanese merchandise.

>>41886043
where did you get arimidex?

>>41886572
>I'm doubling my blast dosage now and turn into a granite statue, maybe then I can finally pick up underaged girls with really weird wigs and japanese merchandise.
I love underage girls. where can I meet them? I'm in united states. Legal is 16 where I live.

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>>41886613

outside of creeping up schools?

anime conventions. tons and tons of em.

>>41886633
I'm not into that nerd shit but I can be! I'm within driving distance to Atlanta, for that yearly convention.

>>41886673

>fake fans

people can sniff that shit from a mile away, i wouldnt bother.

>>41886726
guess I'll just use Tinder for jailbait

>>41886163
Yeah because my judgement was cloud free before.

No one warned me about this heat
Or is it not fraud related

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>>41883971
For the bargain basement price of 350,000 usd she could be yours!

Tfw no 4'11 98lb Chilean gf to throw around.

>be 18
>just found /fit/
>went on SS
>few months in, went to yearly health checkup
>asked to test my T
>300ng/dl
>got mentally fucked up
>went on /fraud/ to ask for advice
>side effects was too much for me
>didn't pin
I'm turning 21 in July, /fraud/. Soon after I'll go to the doctor again. If my T levels are still low, I'll ask for trt
Anyone had similar experiences? What would I expect? At least to go to normal range

>>41886863
>asking fraud for sides instead of doing your own research to find out there are literally no non-treatable sides on low fraud levels except that it's a rabbit hole for more potent stuff
Yep you are too stupid to fraud

>>41886887
Primarily what concerned me was
>pinning for the rest of your life
>infertility
>different types of cancer
>regular checkups to make sure T is in correct levels
None of this seems pleasant.

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>>41886936
>meme """addiction"""
>meme meme (just use hCG if you manage to reduce your sperm count to zero)
>meme disease you will catch anyway if you have the predisposition for it
>meme T checkups when you know that your own production will seize and your levels is what you inject

Fucked exgfs face. Dude I love crying like a little bitch.

>>41886936
>pinning for the rest of your life
can be shorter then you think, getting hit by a car is a real possibility
>infertility
freez your sperm, but why bother with a child in the first place get a vasectomie to make sure
>different types of cancer
60% men die with prostata cancer but not because of it. live long enough and you get some sort of cancer anyway
>regular checkups to make sure T is in correct levels
should check other values, constantly running 150mg will be a constant T level

>>41886826
If you're on tren, heat is a real thing.

>>41886863
Whats it like? Low T levels, I mean. Asking for my son. Do you have trouble gaining muscle? How about your mentality, are you motivated etc?

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>>41880927
>Where do I look if I want a gf that will smoke weed
my buddy got a weed-smoking ginger gf off POF. Tinder, concerts, festivals, head shops and hippy stores etc would also work

>and play video games with me
wherever fat girls congregate so anime cons, anime sections at book stores, fast food restaurants, any place with office jobs, community colleges, apartment blocks because fatties dont stray far from their couches

>>41886853
>For the bargain basement price of 350,000 usd

nice try Francisco, she's 10 llamas at most

>>41886726
>implying young sluts give a shit after their 2nd shot during the non-stop after party at BokuCon 69, as long as you are Chad

>>41887131
I don't know if I still have low T levels or not. But just from the 3 years I've been working out (consistently)
Muscle
>went from probably 125lb LBM to 140
>weight shifted around a lot
>190 starting out
>cut to 180
>got depressed and stopped my cut
>ballooned up to 220 at 145 LBM
>now 180 at 140 LBM
Strength when I was at my strongest
>1rm was 315 for deadlift
>295 for squat
>185 for bench
>135 for ohp
Mentality (this is where I don't know if it's because I'm low T, or what)
>never had a girlfriend
>don't want one either
>feel demotivated to even try
>either extremely small or severe body dismorphia, i can't tell which
>classic "/r9k/ before /r9k/ was cool" loner shut in
And about being motivated. /fit/ness is about having discipline. Going to the gym even if you're not motivated. Best way is just to stick to it as a habit. Don't even think about it. If today is the day you have to go to the gym. Go.
But to answer your question, I felt the most motivated when I was 220 and thicc

I'm honestly just as curious as you are, to see what changes with normal T levels.

>>41882895
What is cost of living you fuck.

>>41881720
bachelor is mediocre. Nowadays you need master or phd to make it

>>41881257
>Pay for just orderpicker in the freezer starts at 1800 netto,
How is that? Because it's some dangerous work that nobody wants to do? Makes no sense to get a bachelor/master if you make more money with order picking.

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tfw ended my tren cycle and shrunk

is it possible to be on tren for a whole year? imagine the gains bros

imagine...

>>41887297
Sure why not. What could possibly go wrong

You could be also be on a whole year of good food and training with test and make sick gains.

Imagine..

>>41887361
why not both family

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>>41887361
Yo mast, i've been cruising on 100mg/wk lately with 12.5mg/AI every injection day. I didn't think my estro was that high but my acne is blowing the fuck up and getting worse and worse every day now. Should i split the AI to 6mg EOD or what.. im at a loss and tired of not being able to wear tank tops anymore.

>>41887438
I have the same problem. Going from a blast to a cruise probably causes some acne due to hormone imbalance. This was even worse with PCT, but that acne never went away without the use of accutane.

acne is going away and is returning back. Really frustrating.

>>41887116
Hmm that explains everything

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>>41887502
I haven't blasted for 8 months now and have been cruising at this dose for 3 months. I really don't know what to do as it's not hormone fluctuations, but god ya i'm glad im cruising for life and won't deal with shit ass pct acne again.

Any ideas at all on what I should do short of accutane at this point?

I wonder how many people have looked at that picture and simply thought, hm thats probably all i need for my 12 week cycle

>>41885836
Why is it assumed that's all I do?

I work all week 50+ hours, I spend roughly 10hours a week in the gym, as well as a few more hours prepping food for myself. Not to mention other life bullshit.

When I have time where I don't have to do anything, usually I like to spend it not-sober with some form of escapism, usually video games.

I want some chick that not only respects that, as in won't bitch at me, but will end up joining me. Only chicks I've hooked up with have been basic as fuck and all they wanna do is drink on weekends and watch Netflix on weeknights. Shit gets old.

>>41883878
Always pretend to know what you're doing and if she goes "what are you doing?" or she's not into it just say that the other girls you've been with have liked it. Then ask her how she likes it.

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>>41883817
holy fuck about time, i'm genuinely happy for you

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>tfw do feeder-type workouts now
>just 1 type of isolation exercise for 30 mins, then another isolation for 30 mins

the doms IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING INSANE BROS

>>41884352
If you're not ready to pin, you're not ready for steroids. You're also a faggot, and should kys.

>>41886633
>>41886572

https://www.fbi.gov/tips

>>41886577
unironically neck yourself

/Fraud/ redpill me on GH. Is it worth spending 500$ a month on. I just bought 500 iu and am getting buyers remorse.

the rest of my stack is:

>Susta 750/w
>Anavar 80/d
>Arimidex .5 EOD

I might add tren but it seems like a bit of overkill desu. I'm not trying to go full on Ronnie

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>>41881757
Name fag

>>41888252
what country are you in?
where the fuck did you get 500ius of growth for $500? from what country is it? asia?
in sweden its like $900 a month if im on 5-10iu per day and thats nowhere near 500ius

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My sleep has gone to such shit cause of this whole dnp in the summer idea. I keep having to roll over because i feel like im cooking in a frying pan. I wish i could at least take stims to power through the days better but these rando drug tests are non stop.

i have to take antipsychotics on daily basis

Trenbolone is a good choice for me, right lads?

>>41888282

I wish. the 500 iu was 1500. But its for 3 months (and i'll have to get another 500 iu to finish off the 6 months)

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>>41888215
d-doms on steroids?

>>41888252
nice meme friend

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>>41888282
you can get generic Chinese gh for $1/iu

>>41888252

personally no

unless you're going to pin slin as well

>>41888410

Can't take insulin. Trying to lose weight. I'm hardly eating carbs

>>41888392
?

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Give me your thoughts on test/tren/mast

>>41887604
Depends on the case of course. Accutane is no joke. I have it done twice, but god those depressions were fucking killing to the point i almost killed myself.

>>41888511
ask your mother

>>41888511

Don't buy the blend. Has a sting because of the high content and alcohol.

It is more expensive, but less pip and easier to source problems if they arise.

Assuming you've never done tren before. I'd advise this:

50/d tren ace
50/d test prop

As for the mast, I'd just keep at AI on hand instead and dose it at 0.5/3d

If you're really wanting to do mast, dose it at 50/eod

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So here i am, week 26 of 500mg test E a week, dbol on and off every 3 weeks, and dnp 250mg eod.
I was fat to begin with (5'8" 270 lbs), and I've gotten stronger but also still the same fat. Ive been doing Ss+GOMAD the entire time, because i need the protein calories to build muscle from the test and the dnp will keep burning fat but it doesnt aeem to be working.
My stats for working sets of 5 have gone from:
85lb OHP to 115
155 bench to 185
185 squat to 205
225 deadlift to 255.
12 minute 1 mile run to 11:25.
Im lost guys, its been so long why arent things changing.

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>>41888584
>these are the people giving advice about steroids

>>41888584
Drop the dbol, and the dnp. Half the test and introduce EQ at 900/w

It's less effective than dnp but try some bronkaid and caffeine instead, dosed at 1:10 respectively.

This is all assuming that with your weight that your bp, and ldl aren't causing you any pain.

If the pain arises, there's plenty of advice but mostly boils down to oats, low sodium, fish oil, 2l+ water/d, and at least half an hour cardio.

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>tfw still waiting for my package with gear

is that disgusting animal fatlifts dead yet?

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>>41888584
>bulking on dnp hoping to lose weight
>6 weeks for a 255 pound dl

O I am laffin

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>>41888257
you must be new here.

>>41888584
Either I'm being trolled or you're a fucking idiot.

whats the most awkward pin you've done?

left glute for me. Haven't pinned glutes in years but even left ventro glute is just fucking awkward.

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>>41888584
>SS
>GOMAD
>DNP EOD
>185 bench after roiding half a year
>255 deadlift after roiding half a year
>26 week cycle
pls, pls be b8

>>41887241
Thank you for responding.

>>41888702
What is that for pussy questions.

WHAT IS THE MOST AWKWARD MOMENT YOU HAVE ENCOUNTERED?

crusader cried in front of a girl, can someone overrule this awkwardness

GO

>>41888666
26

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>>41888757
As my libido has reached astronomical levels
could you post your daily pic of urself so i can satisfy my needs, kind sir

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Ok fuck it im calling it quits at week 9 of pmsf
I need to drop tren and work is doing mandatory ot, so itll be nice not to workout 2 hours ed
Plus this means I can drink

>>41888408
chinese gh is shit, scandinavian norditropin is where its at

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King of /fraud/ reporting in.

How does it feel knowing you will never be as big and strong as me?

>735lb deadlift
>615lb squat
>445lb bench

300lbs 6'5


>"whoah! whats your cycle anon?"

Your mothers pussy juice.

>>41888757


>WHAT IS THE MOST AWKWARD MOMENT YOU HAVE ENCOUNTERED?

pinning left glute

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>>41888757
>crusader cried in front of a girl, can someone overrule this awkwardness
Is that even possible?

>>41888821
>damn.png
can you tone the self love down just a tad, thanks

post vids of lifts, I want to see that squat.

>>41888821
best body in all of fit.

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>>41888821
Oh great, the dude LARPing as Billy from Chiliwack is here. Don't buy the bait, boyos, this isn't real. It's literal cancer in the CBT threads that won't go away.

>>41888757
Mate, I've done plenty worse shit I assure you.

>>41888821
your haircut ruins everything

if thats what i even can call it

>>41888842
t.Billy.

>>41888757
You pussies don't wanna share stories, i start

>be in the gym, just doing my thing
>see in the corner of my eye a guy entering the gym
>I never seen this faggot before
>he just wears his regulair clothes instead of gym clothes, hmm okay
>he walks towards me
>he probably gonna ask me what kind of shakes i drink
>he takes a seat, only some inches away from me
>start staring me with his drooling face
>.. your body is so beautiful
>.. i know
>continues his stare competition
>wtf is wrong with you?
>you mind if i keep watching you?
>only if you believe i was natty on these pics

>>41888785
only 9 weeks jerry? I was 9 months on keto

>>41888856
>not the bunny tattoo

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>>41888863
>>41888841
>>41888821

>>41888887
Time to get rekt

>Spend over $1000 and a full week of planning, autistic logistics and booking a massive as fuck 16 hour date for exgf
>Probably one of the best days of my life
>End of the day we get home
>I fall the ground and clutch her legs crying telling her I love her so much

I genuinely cry more than she does. I wasn't even on steroids at that point.

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>>41888887
Yeah but you were eating 3x as much
All my mass is gone, 60lbs down

Plus I really want to drop tren.
My fat isnt going anywhere, itll be there when I come back

>>41888921
Oh. My god.
She just took you back to be praised
Holy shit daaaaaaamn

>>41888940
If she wants to be praised while I fuck her face, I'm totally okay with that.

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>>41888757
>at gym doing light deadlifting for reps (675lbs)
>two bigger than average 40 year old guys with tribal tattoos stare at me my entire workout
>they're by the cables just standing and talking
>I walk right up the cables and start using them
>when I'm doing my set they say "hey bud we're using this"
>I finish my set in silence, and then down at them and say "you stand around chatting someone who actually trains will take your equipment"
>one guy says "I was taking my fucking break you roid head"
>I laugh it off doesn't nothing you can say to my face will ever phase me
>you can tell me not giving any fucks really gets under his skin
>Later, when my workout is finished
>On my way out of the gym, I leave the building
>the two guys are standing outside having a smoke
>They are obviously waiting for me
>They both immediately stare at me and approach me
>"Hey steroid junkie, bet you'd gas out in 5 seconds in a fight"
>I just laugh it off smugly
>"Pussy is too afraid to fight hahaha"
>I literally can't be bothered by these 2 40 year old guys that are literally double my age, and just keep walking to my vehicle while they stand outside pumping smoke into their lungs

>>41888952
>its ok that Im being used and emotionally abused because I get to use a hole!

Christ

>>41888921
What i find really remarkable regarding this matter; that you don't seem to fucking care to act like this pussy. You're really this delusional or you're just don't giving a fuck which i can really respect. You're truly not afraid to be yourself.

But really, how can you be so fucking open. My gf really has to ask me whether i still love her or not because i never tell her. Maybe it's because my father smacked me on the head when i showed emotions, that's probably caused the brain damage i have today.

>>41888977
>>41888952
The guy who unironically loves his daki is even calling you out my dude. Did Uncle Touchy give you the tickle fingers or something? Why are you so emotionally ruined?

also pls post dakis jerry

>>41888955
Playboy bunny tat... King of faggots who thinks he is tough. Whats it like having "bottom bitch boy" inked on your skin for life?

>>41888955

Are you a weeb, or somethin? Why does this read like some tumblr anime fanfic?

>>41888980
Other than on /fraud/, she's the only person who I can act completely myself with. If I feel like crying, I will.

Somedays I didn't even feel like touching exgf, so I wouldn't and I would tell her that I just didn't feel like touching her.

My father was the same desu. I act like an emotionless cunt in public , at uni, at work and with friends. My father actually once told me I was his favourite out of my siblings because I never showed that anything bothered me. That fucks me up to this day.

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>>41889024
>>41889023
guys srs ignore this autistic roleplay, it derails CBT every fucking day. it's some jelly dyel who wants this dude's gf or some shit so he steals pics off his insta and posts them here acting like a douche. they doxxed the real guy and harassed him for a bit - turned out it wasn't even him posting. please don't let this shit infect /fraud/ too. we just finally got rid of alex for good.

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>>41889023
>being this mad

>>41880877
do police tests their employes for steroids ?

>>41889004
I would rather be with a fucking daki, then cry in front of girl begging whether i can fuck her.

>>41889035
I don't see any reason to this. What benefits does it give you? Don't you feel like an ultimate pussy when you're lying in bed thinking about this. Just thinking you doing this, give me an extreme painful feeling in the chest out of vicarious pain that it is causing.

you're depending too much on one person, that's why your whole fairy tale broke apart when she left you. be fucking independent faggot. you think this will be the worst shit that will happen to your life? think again

>>41889090
>you think this will be the worst shit that will happen to your life? think again

the guy is right, life is gonna fuck you up if you continue being such a pussy and depend on someone this much.
you show a lot of borderline signs, therapy would maybe help you more than roids

>>41889090
Being able to actually express real emotion is very therapeutic rather than having to constantly filter it to appear stoic and just constantly reflecting on your own emotions that you're not expressing and why. It becomes fucking exhausting and unfulfilling since you're practically exhibiting schizoid personality disorder.

I might be depending on her too much, but I'm okay with that. I can care for myself if need be, but I don't want to. I like having a partner who cares for my needs and I care for theirs simultaneously.

>>41889004
Dakis are alpha
Im leaving humanity behind

>>41889035
I cant show emotion either
Couldnt cry if I wanted to. Its very frustrating. I cry tons at love story movues though, which is very refreshing. Only time I actually am able to cry

>>41881027
>flip Pokémon cards

What did he mean by this?

>>41889126
Crying is nice.

>/fraud/ - Steroid Discussion General

>>41889154
you disgust me

>>41889172
This is okay.

>>41889120
I know, but you do it where nobody can fucking see it. Certainly not in front of a girl. You know what is the most shit that can happen to you? People start to feel sorry for you. Look at this faggot, he's crying, we feel so sorry for him. I rather be fucking the most hated than people feel sorry for me. But that's me.

there are enough other ways to get rid of this. You yell at people. Smash something. Just pump some iron. up the dose and so on. but no you have the choose CRYING, while there are so many other options.

>I can care for myself if need be
Yeah we have seen it

>>41889128
are you familiar with the concept of buying low and selling high?

>>41889154
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>>41889210
I dunno. Maybe you should try crying and telling your gf you love and see how you feel afterwards and see how she feels afterwards.

There is a difference between crying for pity and crying out of happiness or you're in genuine need. I can't express when I feel extremely sad accurately, I feel fake when I try to put it into words and that reflects in her reaction to me. But if I cry, she can fully understand what I'm in need of. Sometimes it's just reassuring to cry into a girls chest while she strokes your head and just making shushing noises.

Try it some time, you might really enjoy it. Your gf would too. Disclaimer, I don't cry a lot despite what I lead on because rarely there's anything to cry about.

>>41889265
Man, call me old fashioned or emotionally stifiled or whatever, but in my experience absolutely nothing will make a woman lose respect for you faster than being an overemotional wreck in front of her, whether its to 'accurately express yourself' or not. The man's traditional role is being a rock, and therefore not subject to being moved by trifiling passing emotions or hardships.

Crying into a woman's chest and having her stroke your hair is reserved for males under the age of 10 exclusively in the company of their mother. Beyond that you need to brush it off and get on with it.

>>41889265
>I dunno. Maybe you should try crying and telling your gf you love and see how you feel afterwards and see how she feels afterwards.
LMAO, yeah that's something i really want to try out. I don't know with what woman you deal with, but most woman will fucking cuck you on the sight if you ever do such shit.

Seriously, i have seen a fuck ton of pussies got cucked by there girls because they were just pussies like you. Accepting everything they did and eventually they also thought it was normal when some other faggot pushed his dick in her pussy.

Crying is crying, which makes you a pussy. There is no difference.

I have seen some crazy shit in my life, but you...lmao

>>41889296
I can't accurately describe the relationship dynamic I have with her. But I am still the provider, the leader and the dominant partner. I make 99% of all decisions. Crying isn't mutually exclusive to these.

In the 4 years I've been with her, I've cried 4 times including the most recent one. All of them I'd say are fairly reasonable. I'm not a complete pussy like I make myself out to be.

>>41889330
you've cried like three times in the last week.

What's a good place to get Etizolam? Looks like irc.bio shut down. :(

>>41889330
I havent cried in over 10 years, in those ten years my dog died, so did my sister.

And i stubbed my toe real bad this one time.

>>41889357
This. The only reason I ever cry is for the loss of an animal friend.
Which in turn leads to rage and me destroying a table or two...

>>41888554
This is the kind of shit that keeps me natty and gives me nightmares. Fighting stuff like acne.

>>41889305
Yeah nah. I'd fucking rip a cunts throat out if they ever tried to touch her. I'm not a total pussy. Actually almost cracked some faggot over the head with a breaker bar once because she was trying to park her car in a shopping centre and some cunt beeped at her for taking too long and she's a nervous driver so she started crying. Got the breaker bar from the back seat, got out, went over to him, opened his car door and he shit himself.

Dude I love steroids.

>>41889347
Not in front of her though.

>>41889357
You sound emotionally fucked. I cried only when she started digging up my dad abusing me, when my cat died, after the long date and 2 days ago when I saw her.

>>41889393
did your dad sex your bum or just beat the shit outta you?

Condolences on the kitty

>>41880877
>Been running 1ml a week for a few weeks and felt great
>Separated dose by .5ml 2x a week and feeling like shit every couple of days
>Test still works of course, but the decreased injections aren't fun

Also found an online source and some dude in India, stringed him along for a little bit noticed other people joining in and dude takes your money and never ships anything. Fcking scammers out there...

>>41889393
Ever since I've been on I held back so many times.

Imagine beating someone to shit, get caught and be tested for roids.
Not pretty.

>>41889417
Beat the shit out of me. Just like his dad did to him.

>>41889429
>get caught

You see that's where you don't do that part.

>>41889435
Well i suppose that may explain some of your weird emotional issues.

Have you beaten the shit out of your father in return, y'know for the laughs?

>>41889448
I've tried to find out where he lives multiple times. My siblings know because they have a better relationship with him and see him on occasion whereas I have no contact. They refuse to tell me because they know what I want to do.

>>41889470
>>41889470
does he have the book of faces

>>41889442
>getting your shit kicked in by the michelin man happens daily
>no way they'll find the puffy man with arms bigger then most guys head

Ofcourse when you're still in DYEL stage its easy to say not to get caught.

>>41889481
Nope. He's an old man dude.

>>41889499
Old people love technology now.

steal/gain access to a siblings phone. It will be in there.

>>41889354
That's weird IRC.BIO used to be solid.

Enhanced Chemicals doesn't have those benzo analogs, right?

>>41889393
Even when she is the one that's allowing it? Don't see the point to fuck him up, if she is the one willing to spread her legs without thinking a second about hurting you feelings.

You're weak and doesn't give her the domination she needs. That's evolution, her instinctive behavior you can not satisfy. You will soon find out and start this whole shit will start over again.

You will find out that crying won't solve your problems then.

>I'm not a total pussy
Beside the crying part

>>41889545
If she allowed it, I'd break up with her. I've been cheated on once and I have some dignity to never have that happen again to myself. I've told her this, there is absolutely no second chance. One slip up and it's done.

>>41883817
It took you long enough. Good for you man!

>>41889585
>I've been cheated on once and I have some dignity to never have that happen again to myself.
I can think of some reasons why that did happen. If you keep acting this way, i can assure you it will happen again.

maybe if you stand in front of the mirror and say it 3x times in a row while crying your eyes out, maybe some magic will occur that this will never happen to you ever again.

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>>41889661
>maybe if you stand in front of the mirror and say it 3x times in a row while crying your eyes out, maybe some magic will occur that this will never happen to you ever again.
kek

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r8 my new back tattoo fellas, finally healed

>>41889861
How many different cultures are you going to appropriate for your tattoos, white man?

>>41889861
The jawline of the girl looks odd, might be the angle.

Want to see it colored.
Why did you pick this one?

>>41889861
They forget to tattoo muscles? What a shitty tattoo artists. You got ripped of man

Could you talk me out of Trestolone + Masteron cycle? Everyone keep saying that it is like the second coming of Jesus cycle

>>41889895
Just go Tren + Mast

>>41889885
Oh boy the shit kanji tattoos are getting covered stat, I was 14 and thought I was the cats ass

>>41889890
Likely just the angle - it does look kinda square there. Gonna fucking suck to color - I'm sitting for 6 hours on it in July, and will probably need another 3 to get it done. I chose it as this artist has done 90% of my other work and I asked him to draw me up a back piece to fit the theme, and this is what I got. No real sentimentality to it.

>>41889893
maybe one day I'll be a real boy. tren this winter should solve some of that

>>41889893
>>41889967
Why not just get yourself tattoo'd borderlands Krieg style?

>>41884352

Listen dude. Ill make it nice and simple

Taking steroids. Of any kind. Will crash your testosterone.

To remedy this, you need to at least be running a low dose of test with whatever other gear you take.

Theres nothing more pathetic than seeing a big muscly dude suffering anxiety/depression and crying fits because he doesnt know how to run his gear.

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>>41889982
>borderlands Krieg style
you may be onto something, fuck roids this is cheaper

>>41889861
Can you show the one on your left delt? Blonde

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>>41890088
sure bby
>inb4 R O I D I N G 4 T H I S

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>>41885476

>>41890185
Thank you

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>>41890185
>roiding for this

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>>41890371
I specifically said >inb4

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Ugh. I think I crashed the shit out of my e2 running 6.25mg of asin ED on 500mg of test

>>41890517
I mean it's possible, I run 12.5 mg asin EOD, but I crashed it at the beginning of my cycle with that dose as I wasn't aromatizing that much yet. How far into cycle are you?

>>41890517
unlikely, is it ugl?

>>41890517
Nigga why were you running nearly 44mg of asin a week on 500mg of test a week?
If you really think that you crashed your e2 then you could try popping a bit of dbol or something.

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>>41890535
I've been on 500 for probably 2 months now. But on gear for years.

>>41890544
I brewed the test and made the asin into a suspension. Kinda surprised desu. I used pharma before but I wanted to try raws.

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>>41890561
Because I'm a fatty. Duh.

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>>41890582
>>41890570
I wonder if it's possible for mast, methyl-dht and proviron to dry you out to the point where your joints feel kinda bad.

>>41890561
I run 25mg ed and I still don't crash my e2

>>41890535
>>41890610
i crash mine with 6mg e3d at 500test
kinda nice if you actually dont need an ai at all

>>41890610
Why tho, that's a lot of fucking AI

>>41889861
Looks like absolute shit

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>>41890582
>>41890570
>been roiding for years
>still fat

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>>41890691
If it jiggles it's fat.

>>41890644
I feel fine on 12.5 but I still notice signs of high e2. bumping it up to 25 makes my loads 10 times larger, for example

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>>41890737
How much test? Is that pharma asin? I would think super high doses would crash your e2 on any "regular" test dose and thus dehydrate you to some extent and make your loads smaller.

>>41890771
500mg.

increasing the asin dose makes my loads larger, not smaller. I'm about 21% bf though, so I'm pretty overweight (morbidly obese by fraud standards)

I'm about to drop to cruise dose, I'm curious to see how much AI I'll need

basically i want to hop on to a cycle str8 up, after being out of the gym for 2 months. anyone done this before?

>>41890894
Yeah. It worked out well for me, don't know if I can speak for you though.

do people really buy chink test for 80 cents a gram and mix it with olive oil?

>>41890915
I don't mix it with olive oil

>>41890915
the return of olive oil anon

>>41890938
>olive oil anon II - necrosis boogaloo

>>41890894
Yes, no big deal

>>41890938
no im not olive oil anon
i heard it from him
is he some sort of spergposter here though

>>41890960
to follow up this nigger was saying that you shouldn't even care about your natural test levels because you can just do trt for $20 a year

and how you should do gear in the first day at the gym

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>>41890713
Muscle jiggles too if it's not tense.
I can get my triceps to jiggle like old lady arms if I do it right.

>>41890960
yes

to answer your original question, yes a lot of people buy test at 60-80 cents a gram from the chinks. hell every single ugl source does.

however we don't mix it with olive oil, shake then inject like that larper, brewing is a little more involved than that

testosterone is turning me into a legit stormfront nazi, what the fuck is wrong with me.

>>41891052
what he meant by this

>>41891052
because being a nazi the truthful way that (((they))) don't want you to go on

>>41891001
Woah she looks like a damn cartoon. She's perfect.

>>41891077
I am honestly starting to believe a world ruled by them would be a meritocratic, disciplined world and it would be a better place. It started when I got on TRT and stopped being a lazy slob like everyone around me was, I am almost shredded now thanks to following some weird nazi videos on physical education

Redpill me on online pharmacies. If i use one, will it be possible that i get fake nolvadex and ai's?

I don't care about price, because it seems to be the main complaint against them.

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subq TRT pinning?

according to the wiki I should be able to do 0.3 mL subq, so I'd get 75 mg at 250 mg/mL concentration around my belly button or love handles. could do this twice or thrice a week to hit my desired dose

but my understanding of oil absorption is that subq absorbs slower, so maybe use a shorter ester instead?

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>>41891514
>If i use one, will it be possible that i get fake nolvadex and ai's?
no brah 100% real shit

>>41891532
My apologies for thinking /fit/ was anything more than bro science with shit posting

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>>41888657
same here man. it's frustrating.

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>>41888821

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>>41889861
don't know if I should laugh or vomit. Probably both

Someone make new thread, i don't have any good /fraud/ pics to header it with

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>>41891524
Its slower, but if you do it regularly it doesn't matter

>>41891776
Here, use this
Fatty

>>41891524
just do 25 mg of suspension twice a day
trust me I'm legit

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When i should bump up my calories on my first ever blast? Should i wait for the test effects to kick in before adding more food?

also, is tdee +30% surplus accurate for enhanced bulking or is it too much?

>>41892208
Eat 4-5k you little cuckold

I've gained 20 lbs in a month of tren and half of that is muscle I look HUGE. Probably 5 lbs fat and some water.