I'm starting to think full body x 4 is better than bro splits

Post full routine

>>41866993

Workout A
4x15 Squat
4x12 OHP
4x12 Ez bar curls
4x12 Lateral raises
4x12 Reverse wirst curl
4x15 Leg curls
4xf Plank
4xf V-up


Workout B
4x15 Deadlift
4x15 Bench Press / Dips (alternating)
4x15 Lat pulldown / Rows (alternating)
4x12 Calf raises
4x12 Face pulls or Bend over lateral raises
4x12 Skullcrushers
4xf Pallof press
4xf Russian Twist

AxBxAxBxx BxAxBxBxx

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>>41866993
I did.

>>41866977
>I look much more balanced/ aesthetic than ever before.

this will happen no matter what routine you do because the reality is that time and effort are 100x more important than how you divide your exercises up.

>>41867011
Recommend me some books
Hard mode, no Horus Herecy.

>>41866977
latsbreh. is that you?

Diet is everything
Pick a routine and stick with, if your diet is on point, you will see results
Unless your genetics are extremely fucking shitty or you don't actually put the effort while WORKing out

>>41866977
I'm considering a push/pull routine like Chet Yorton used to do, but all I can find about it is a single website and a bunch of people suggesting PPL. Only really have the time to go to the gym four days a week, and I don't want to do an upper/lower.

http://rippeder.com/content/chet-yorton-workout-routine

>>41866977
Full body is the best program for naturals

U/L 3x a week master race

>>41867492
im running quite similar except 6x per week and 3x5 on compounds, deadlift instead of squats once a week

>>41867855
So like ULULULx or what

I don't understand PPL over PP. I thought the point was to hit big leg movements both days which help grow the entire body. Seperating out legs just means you drop frequency and remove the big movements.

>>41866977

2x lower body (one day hard squats and assistance deadlifts - rdls, snatch grip, deficit (lighter weights other day hard deadlifts and more hypetrophy back squats or front squats + some pullups or back work)

3x upper body where you focus on adding weight to bench or ohp powerlifting style and assistance is to your like

this is goat

>>41866977
where are barbell rows or any rows at all?
why press more than pull? thats not balanced
deadlift and squat same day? no good

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>>41867003
>4x15 bench

Why do you guys post this ugly motherfucker posing with plastic armor? It's so fucking cringe.

>>41867403

'How to take HGH and then lie about it on /fit for dummies' is a good one.

>>41868027

>he cringes more about 4x15 bench not 4x15 deadlift

good luck not cat backing that with any weight that maters

conv dl isnt meant for high rep work for fuck sake, you have sldl or rdl for that

>>41867893
or LULULU if you want

>>41867003
must not be using heavy weight for that much volume. I'm on a 10x10 gvt for the month and I've really noticed a difference.

Volume is how you make gainz

what about push/pull and upper/lower?
which one is better?

>>41867479
This cracker gets it. I lol at how OCD people are with their routines when their diet is a complete trainwreck.

My friend is an alcoholic, yet works out six days a week. He has man tits and no definition. I work out two days a week (super busy these days), never drink, and look 4636262 times better than him.

Hes been working out four years longer than me too

>>41868152
specifically which gvt? Chest/back bi's/tri's legs? Which programme were you doing before?

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>>41868020
It's got deadlifts and pullups, rows are overrated IMO

>>41868166
PHAT is good

>>41866977

>Deadlifting route times a week

Rip

>>41868381
>>41867011
>>41866977
Daily reminder that avatarfagging is just as bad as tripping

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>>41867003
>4x15 Deadlift

>>41866977

Seems like an appropriate time to ask.

is it RxS or SxR? Because I always thought it was the former.

>>41867403
Mircea Eliade - History of Religious Ideas
Julius Evola - Meditation on the Peaks
Adolf Hitler - If I Did It

>>41867982
PP is also better because your gains stop after 48 hours, so if you do PP you can hit everything every 48 hours, but if you do PPL, you only do it every 72 hours.

>>41869462
Do you know of any PP template programs without insane volume? The only one posted in this thread is >>41867492

>>41869197
The standard is SETS x REPS

So if you see 3x5, it means 3 sets of 5 reps.

If you see 5x3, it means 5 sets of 3 reps.

>>41868054

LITERALLY KYS, I ALREADY KNOW YOU HAVE ZERO VALID ARGUMENTS FOR THAT

>>41867003
>AxBxAxBxx
That is not a week

>>41869628
Why would he adjust his workout to a 7 day interval for no good reason?

>>41869658
Most people have lives and or jobs, so there's a need to keep the days that you workout as the same days of the week.

>>41869692
>lives
>jobs
Never gonna make it