Reminder that if you have narrow shoulders you shouldn't

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>>41841674
Reminder that the people who start these threads always have 15 inch pencil necks

Both dudes in this picture depict the extremes of both sides.
But in general: Yes. Wide shoulders are a huge part of aesthetics and you'll look like shit if you have pic related left side going on for you. Kys is an option at that point desu.

its funny because i remember the full picture and the right guy looks fucking bad from down there

>>41841710
Yes he's got them child bearing hips apparently. But the shoulders and face are huge plus so I doubt he's faring bad at getting girls.

>>41841717
It doesn't matter if you have big hips if your shoulders are larger than it.

>>41841772
Somewhat true
If your obliques protrude like hell tho and your ribcage is too narrow in the lower part, then it'll look a bit odd. But still better than being a shoulderlet

>wide broad shoulders
>huge waist fridge torso/waist

If I had a 30 inch waist I'd look like a fucking cartoon character. My shoulders are like 60 inches, but my waist is 40 inches, so yeah it's still much wider than my waist, but my waist is still huge compared to the average guy.

The lowest my waist is when I'm <10% bodyfat, it goes down to like 33-34 inches.

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>>41842733

Nick bateman has a huge waist but his shoulders are huge too

What is considered wide shoulders? 18 inches across?

>>41842733
>my waist is 40 inches
Jesus Christ fat boy

>>41843166
...you're joking right?

my 3 year old baby cousin has 20 inch shoulders

please tell me you're joking
fuck it I've had enough
UNLESS YOU HAVE 1487+ INCH SHOULDERS YOU DO NOT BELONG ON /FIT/ AND SHOULD FUCK OFF
fucking framelets when will they learn?

>>41841674
You know whats fucky you loser robot? The guy on the left has a better shoulder to waist ratio and better gains than the fag on the right

>>41843428
And yet, aesthetically, he still looks worse. That's the point.

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What is framelet cut-off? How many inches?

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>>41843428
>And then he said "my shoulder to waist ratio and gains are god-tier"

>>41843458
>>41843551
Why don't you post the rest of the pic to reveal the guy on rights fucking birthing hips you dickless faggots?

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>>41843464
>inches
it's about ratio, pic related, less than two heads is kys tier

>>41843739
Well how do you know if you're in the clear?

>>41843780
>>41843780

Measure the width of your skull then the width of your shoulders and compare ratios

>>41844036
>made up names
>made up facts

I choose the truth

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>>41841674
>tfw 6'3 and 50" shoulder circumference

Feels pretty nice

>>41843464
18 inches probably

>>41841707
>guy inside a guy

>>41844036
huh, based on the nationalities given i'd totally believe it if everything was switched; guy on the left looks more BR like while the guy on the right looks more European

>>41841674
The steroid use on the left guy and his pec tear make it look even worse

>>41844036
>41 and married with 2 kids
No thanks

>>41844208
Are you sure? I'm like 19 and one of the smallest frames at my gym despite lifting for 2 years.

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>>41843739
this must be retarded, i look like the first, but i measure in paint the width of my head and the width of my shoulders and the ratio is 2.75.
I must suck at math or i don't understand what to do, help.
Also my hips, FUCK ME I'M SO DEFORMED.

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>>41843739
>tfw average shoulders but big head

>>41843166
thats average 20 is when they start to look broad

>>41841707
>tfw height, shoulder width and neck width are what you have going for you
BUT
>tfw small wrists
WORTHLESS

>>41841674
Reminder that op is a homo, a self-hating autistic home at that.

>>41841674
> bideltoid width is everything theory
face theory desu

>>41844447
it's not the width of your head, retard, but its length, pic related

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>>41844661

>>41844180
What's the waist size?

>>41844661
>>41844671
ok, now i can suicide.

>>41844902
91cm
Thats 35"

>>41843739
I got 25cm long head and 40cm wide shoulders (for 182cm height), should I kys myself?

>>41841674
You have wide shoulders OP? Post your pic. I want to see what a real aesthetic specimen looks like.

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>>41843739
> manlet so my head is larger relative to my body

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>>41844992
>less than two heads is kys tier
I'm so sorry, anon.

>>41841674

the guy on the left looks better desu

>>41844992
>40cm wide shoulders
nigga i'm 175cm and My shoulders are 50 cm

wtf

>>41843739
>length of skull 10'
>width of shoulders 18'

..ha

>>41845166
even using the widest part of the shoulder muscle instead of skeletal frame my shoulders are still only 22'

sigh

Is 19'5'' - 50 cm skeletal frame acceptable?

>>41842882
Bateman's only about 6'2" so that guy to the left must be tiny

>>41844234
pls

>>41841674
I didnt know i had wide shoulders until i started lifting and realized that my waist and shoulders arent naturally the same width

I got my shoulders are roughly 2.5 head lengths, is this good?

>>41844447
Grow a beard. Your head and neck look like one long skin column.

>>41845810
Do you measure vertical or horizontal.

>>41846446
From bottom of chin to top of head, so vertical.

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just a bit of muscle mass can do wonders though

>>41846831
You look like a fucking t-square now. Did you just do shoulders and nothing else?

>>41841674
These ridiculous cherry-picked examples aside, the average guy who has poor "FRAME" is simply a lazy fuck who didn't train properly.

>>41846839
thanks for the mire breh

>>41846831
What gear did you use?

>>41846894
>dyel
>gear

but ty for the mire bro

>>41841674
>heh, if I make everyone else insecure and miserable than I'll feel better about myself

kill yourself neet

>>41846894
>That body
>Steroids

Hahahahah

>>41846894
Weider weights barbell set, no bench ohp only. What kind of workout gear do you use?

>>41841674
both look weird and unproportionate tbf

>>41841707
He didn't do deadlifts

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>>41844447
wtf dude did you piss yourself? and why the tight underwear?

>>41841674
P O S T U R E
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>>41842733
same for me
large shoulders and long arms but a pretty square torso
makes me look like an ape or one of those old anti-irish cartoons

>>41844992
Measure shoulders again. I think you fucked up. My 45kg 5'2 Asian girlfriend has shoulders that big

>>41845201
That's wide as fuck. I think you mismeasured if you can look at that and think it's narrow.

>>41846831
mirin not ironically, how tall are you? and how much you weight? what's your routine? how many times a week? sorry for all the questions, started lifting a month ago and I'm doing phraks lp with some added shit

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You'll always look like you're buff in a tight shirt if you have wide shoulders even if you don't lift. Shoulderlets be jelly.

>>41845201
22 inches is like 99th percentile width dude

>>41846868
Training doesnt affect your frame

>>41847282
no u fucking moron he didnt train neck

>>41844036
>IQ of 119

Is this much? Serious question

>>41844447
are you gay? if not why the fuck would you wear that underwear

>>41849838
it's alright

Anything above 130 is ideal

>>41849838
No, it's only just above one standard deviation above the norm.

You need 1.96 standard deviations above for it to be considered outside the normal population parameters with an accuracy of 95%.

>>41849893
>Tfw just under 4 standard deviations from the norm
I've met a handful of people (not hard when I'm studying maths at a top university) that I feel are on the same level as I am or more and the majority are fucking aspie

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>>41843464
Zyzz had a mediocre frame. Nothing to write home about, but not a framelet either

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This is what a huge frame looks like. Wrists bigger than arms of the skellies here

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>>41844180
Its crazy how you can see from the back already that the guy isnt very good looking. I don't know how, but im absolutely certain about it
compare to pic related on the right

>>41846831
>them nips tho 0_o

>>41844492
pretty much me.

>>41841709
It's a death sentence. Might as well start dating asian girls. There's not even a surgery for it.

>>41845734
>6'2"
>only

Fuck me

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Broad shoulders are literally everything.

Pic related is the absolute best you can hope for as a shoulderlet. This is what a ripped shoulderlet looks like. In other words you'll always look small and frail no matter how jacked you get lel

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>>41850113
Its a meme you dipshit, he is 6'4 or so
The guy to the left is 6'2

>>41850123
He could try to pack some more muscle on his delts though. They're not very developed.

>>41849609
175cm 68kg

About 2 months of very intensive calisthenics/body-weight exercises. whenever I had no soreness I'd work out. my routine was quite random, but there's a lot of good info online so do some research and make up your own routine. KEEP IN MIND those are noob gains, so after that I've had slower and harder progress

>>41850049
yes, I have a scar-tissue on my chest that is quite wide thus my other nipple is lower than the other

>>41846831

Hit your fucking left arm/side for fucks sake


You look like the fucking charger from left 4 dead

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>>41843739
>tfw exactly two heads
I'm skelly af though, how much shoulder width could noob gains give?

>>41850575
kek'd.

True though, it's quite a discrepancy.

The golden ratio for should/waist is 1,77
>tfw 1,80

>>41841674
Literally all the guy on the left needs to do is target his lats and shoulders far more, and literally stay away from any exercise that works the traps for a good while to let them atrophy. Proportions are the issue, not skeletal structure.

Reminder that no matter how shit you look, you will look better after lifiting.

>>41850575
notice the lighting? and how it creates an illusion of imbalance? yeah, that

>>41849932
Yeah but he had a solid pizza hut roof for traps

>>41849949
I honestly don't feel like posting my face, but if you ask for it I will, so you can be the judge of how bad or good looking I am.

>>41850765
>I honestly didn't get the attention I expected so here I am fishing some more

go to /soc/ mate

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>>41850857
kek, btfo

>>41850128
5'11 and 6'3*

>>41849854
you have to wear tight underwear if your dick is really big to contract your boner so people don't see it from a mile away.

>>41845201
That's what, an XXL for shirts?
Good luck finding cheap clothes, I'm an XL and the chinese shit just doesn't exist in my size.

>>41848850
42cm exactly.

>>41844992
>>41848850
he's not joking, 22x40 reporting in
also a manlet here tho

>>41843415
>measuring baby cousin's stats
how big is bicep flexed?
how much does he bench?

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>>41841674
CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME IF I HAVE NARROW SHOULDERS I'M FREAKING OUT

>>41852179
How much do they measure?

>>41852179
id be more worried about that ugly bathroom

>>41841674
>dat chest gap
oh boy

>>41852189
17in across but I only recently started lifting
I got years to go

>>41849920
he said, anonymously posting on a mongolian camel trading board
what uni you at friendo?

I don't lift at all but I have a 2.36 head to shoulder ratio with 19 inch shoulder circumference and a 27 inch waste so I look aesthetically very pleasing. Don't get salty you framelets

>>41852245
And how tall are you?

>>41846831
>>41850575
this, holy shit

>>41852299
looks like fucking skelator though

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>>41850723
>illusion

>>41842882
>>41850128
IT"S NOT FAIR

Big back makes your shoulders look wider, start doing those pullups and deadlifts

>>41852292
6'
Sorry for the late reply

54" shoulders to 35" waist @ 5ft11

Im fat (20%bf) but can still look good in clothes because im fairly wide at the top.

>>41850128
instagram models lie their height, you know

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What about mine guys, are my shoulders OK? Oh and Im pretty sure my torso is longer than normal.

>>41852942
THANK YOU HUNGRY SKELETON

>>41843739
Loomis is 100 years behind. Nowadays 3 heads is a cutoff.

>>41852179
You'll be fine if you lose some fat around the hips.
Unless it's permanent, cause you seem to have some stretch marks. Ex-fatty?

>20in shoulders

Will i make it brehs?

>>41852942
thank you mr skeleton

>>41850128
The guy on the left look better than him and he is shorter, this is proff that bateman is a 8 not a normie 10/10

>>41844992
Yes, I have 52cm and I consider myself to have small shoulder width. Im also 182cm. I do look very odd

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>>41854479
Forgot pic

>>41854258
Yes easy, how tall though? Cant be taller than 5’11 imo

>>41854521
Sorry meant 5'10 or 5'9, but we. If you havent been liftan for long you will defo make it

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>>41843739

Head: 7"
Shoulders: 19"

2.7:1

Not bad! Fuck I'm a hero!

>>41852179
you put your bathroom in the kitchen right ?

>>41854502
LOL is right.

>>41854571
Hips, 19.

Honestly I think even more important is shoulder to hip ratio. Box mode vs V mode. V mode is best, but a slight box isnt too shabby.

>>41854593
Huh?

>>41854571
>>41854599

My hips are 12" wide (not around)

So from the front, its 7" head, 19" shoulders, and 12" hips

Shoulders are 1.59 times the waist

Height: 5'8"
Dick: 7.5" x 6.5"


Am I gonna make it?

>>41854635
19” wide not around right? Thats very ok, especially since youre a manlet. Sorry but 5.8 is short. Dick size doesnt matter so long it isnt under 6-7 inches. 6 feet is where the minimum non manlet height starts (taller than an average dude by a few inches)

>>41854691

Yea 19" wide

I'm fine with being a manlet. It just makes me a mini-Chad. I dated three short girls at the same time a few years ago

I've realized the real pussy-soaker is social status. Height can help you more easily attain that, but women will choose an alpha manlet over a submissive lanklet

>>41854240
Lol Yeah used to be obese but idk what stretchmarks you're seeing because I can't even see them in that pic
>>41854578
Y-yes

>>41852942
stop worrying about your frame and worry about the toothpick arms you got there

>>41844242

Not really. He does look like a part nigger.

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What about the guys who have wide shoulders AND wide hips while having long arms/legs for their height and relatively low but lean weight?
Asking for a friend.

>>41854808
Box mode is box mode. The taper mode/V mode is ideal. You can look strongman if you bulk moar.

>>41854808
Nice gap.

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Reminder that wide hips are a hallmark of your neanderthal ancestry

>>41854537
5'11 actually, only been lifting consistently for 2 months.

>>41854808
>yankees fan
>fake drums
>tiny package

Good shoulders, I guess?

>>41843415
>framelets
kekeke i notice you anon

>>41844447
Just a reminder. ALL of /fit/ looks like this.

:^)

>>41852179
You dont seem to have narrow shoulders at all brah

>>41846839
how can one fix this? i'm starting to get this.

i'm assuming lat (pullups) + trap (shrugs) work

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>>41854725
Well they're almost impossible to see due to lighting.
I'm an ex-fatty myself and we have similar bone structure, how much did you lose?

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-implying that most of us lift for social acceptance

You are what we call attention whore

>>41844180
5'11" w/ 53" shoulders

fridge mode torso though. fuarrrk

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>>41852179

Is that a sink or a toilet?

>>41844036
How do people fall for this? Are people this gullible?

>>41855325
Those are actually self harm scars
Sorry anon but good eye

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>>41855236
Thanks
>>41855606
It's a bidet dude

>>41855606
It's for butthole stimulation, Italians love it

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>>41855325
ALSO I lost 88lbs

I presume I'm quite wide, now need to become fit! I'm so weak :(

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>>41841674

just take lots of roids and hope you're a good responder.

>>41854479
>>41854502
>basically 6'
>barely out of DYEL mode
>20.5" shoulders
>"WAAAH IM NARROW"
You have BDD

>>41856000
I didn't know roids made you black

>>41856056

hes not black you retard.

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>>41855944
Shit, I'm sorry.

>>41855974
Nice work, anon. I actually hope to look kind of like you when I start lifting, but I'm too scared to gain weight right now.

>>41856275
It's no problem brah and thanks I'm flattered
I wish you the best of luck

>>41854571
>7" head
nigga thats ridiculously small even for a turbomanlet

>>41843166
depends on height. 18-20 inches is average.
I'm a lanklet at 6'2'' and 17 inches wide
at least i have a normal waist so I look more like a human pole than I do a girl

>>41842733
>My shoulders are like 60 inches
I'm gonna guess thats circumference and not width because mine are 23"

>>41849949
What is with the fukin abs on the left?

>>41841674
I have broad shoulders which leads to a broad frame (lats and chest), but also to thin arms in comparison

Makes my look like shit when I wear a t shirt

How narrow is narrow.

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Am I normal or wide? I'm weak, chest and legs show it. Screenshot might have not the best stance.
K, I was tiny(and weak, zero physical activities apart from football what I haven't played in 4 years, zero push-ups until 16 y.o.) almost whole my life, got taller and wider when most stopped growing. 6'4" ~205lbs (gained 35 in the last 8 months) in this picture, it's from the video I made to see how one defect is visible. Anyone can guess what the defect is?

> In the background you can see coconut oil, it's great to whiten teeth and moisture skin (not face). Also good as lube (latex can't be used with oils though)

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askin for a friend

>>41856891
>Anyone can guess what the defect is?
Those tits.

>>41856915
Looks fine.

But guys, it's hard to tell when you cover the head.

>>41857033
Umm never noticed that but guess you are right then. Still that wasn't the defect I had in mind

6'3" 32" waist ottermode reporting in. Who's with me

>>41843739
How tall are each of of these guys in non retarded units?

>>41844328
Have you been lifting seriously with a real program and diet?

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>>41857307
Fuck I have gynecomastia. One more reason to be insecure with my body

>>41846831
>that guy who doesn't look like he lifts til he flexes

>>41857522
what was the original defect senpai?

>>41849949
i've noticed people's pants get lower the more v they have.

>>41857576
Pectus excavatum, that smaller breast is deeper (whole area is, I can place my palm and only then it will level), also below bigger tit my ribs are sunken as well. This is shit... That was one of the reasons I never take my shirt off

>>41857622
have heard of it but yours doesn't look so bad, unless you're covering it with the red?

>>41842882
he is a shit-tier actor in noname films though

>>41843739

>tfw I have 3 heads and a naturaly high incertion point of my trap so even when DYEL it looks I'm better off than 90% of people who lift

feels good mayn

>>41857636
Nah, it was covering phone (don't want anyone to recognise me by the phone's case) and nose shadow (it's normal, just looks long due to lighting directly from the above). My puberty is still going, hope that extra fat will disappear :/ never paid attention to anyones chest so thought it's normal

>>41850727

>implying his mid and lower traps wasn't complete shit

>>41852332

wtf!

I also look at his lats, omg

>>41844036
>t. _______ _______

>>41841674
man someone i was talking to said getting your lats huge will help brocaded your shoulders

>>41852245
>17in across
they're narrow thats below average sorry anon, btw no one will notice
>>41852179

>>41852942
how the fuck can we tell shoulder width from a 3/4 angle you damn retard fix your picture

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>>41857522
It's not that bad, it might go away if you decrease your estrogen levels.
Still, I totally want to pinch those titties.

This threads retarded if you do a proper lifting plan you'll get broad. If you don't you aren't doing the full range of exercises.