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Thank Zzyz for estp miscarriage, world doesn't need more brain dead drug addicts with image disorders!

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>>41829705
>previously on crusader is a terrible poster

feels good man

>>41829705
Is that Mike Israetel?

Dude is pretty based.

Man, I love Tren. In the past 6 weeks, I've gained 17.8 lbs and my BF has only increased by 0.6%, according to my smart scale. Feels good, man.

>>41829874
o m e g a

>>41829902
glycogen stores are lbm so that sounds plausible

what's your total bf?

Getting babbys first gear next week. Days are fucking long right now

>>41829969

Sitting at 12.5% now on this bulk.

>>41830068

So, you're waiting on Test E and some AI? Sounds good, man. Getting pretty excited?

Why isn't EQ recommended for more first cycles instead of test E? I had way fewer sides on EQ and the gains were almost the same as test

>>41830535
>instead
you ran EQ alone? how was your dick?

>>41830576
TRT test. But it wasn't my first cycle. But my sides at 500 EQ and 200 test e were non existent compared to 600 test e which was my first cycle.

>>41830506
>Test E and some AI?
Exactly. Was thinking about adding some dbol to the mix but im getting pharma grade test so i decided to drop orals (at least for now).

>Getting pretty excited?
Yes i am, but im having second thoughts. Main reason im hopping on gear is because i've been suicidal for couple of years and im hoping that test will fix this. If not, i have nothing to lose.

i just injected test for the first time now what

>>41831029
I hope u went into the vein

>>41831029
Fap to thick women and fuck around on the machines in the gym for 45 minutes

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Sup guys been hanging with new girl most of my free time, gym like twice a week now on 300mg cyp once a week still eat like shit.

>>41830841
Lmao, the comedown is going to be so hard your going to commit seppuku

>>41831075
All at once right

>>41829705

Opinions on my stack?

>80mg high end anavar
>4.5iu HGH (nordotropin pens from a pharmacy)
>.5 arimidex (pharmacy) EOD
>500mg Sustanon (pharmacy) weekly

Total damages 1200$ per month

Literally no sides and hard mass gains, very little water retention.

>>41831123
Stop trolling

>>41831123
Sustanon is a retarded meme, use TestE

>>41831090
>Roiding for this

>>41831172

Why would I be trolling?

>>41831173

I tried, but I couldn't find it in the pharmacy and I really don't like buying locker room juice desu.

>>41831197
Youre like the roid version of the kid with rich parents.

>>41831108
this is the next part of the plan

Been 220 for a week despite eating only chicken breast and max 500cals of nuts/cottage cheese/yoghurt for 5 days.

While on 650mg/week tren and last day of 250mg dnp.

1-2 hour daily fasted walk. Along with 5 days a week weights and actual cardio.

Cutting is strange.

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>>41831187
Yea you fuck roiding for that I already admit several times that I barely train, I eat fast food daily, and I roid to make decent gains from where I stared with close to 0 effort. Im also constantly depressed from relationships so that makes growing hard too. Let's see how impressive you are.

>>41831123
No one cares, it's not exceptional in any way, and you're not even gonna post a physique pic.

Add tren, slin, more test, and another 2iu gh then I'll mire. Right now you're just being a pussy.

>>41831232
were all dyel

>>41831212

My parents aren't rich at all and I'm 27. I have a small business and own my flat so I can afford to splurge a bit on my body.

Never claimed to be rich, and apparently nobody with a bit of money would ever be on /fit/ according to you so I won't bother explaining myself.

Believe me or don't, I just want some honest feedback on my cycle.

>>41831197
Sust is not ideal but will do, good luck rich man

>>41831232
But why though?

Why be mediocre at best?

>Muh relationship depression
Mate don't even start. I guarantee my life has objectively been worse than yours from sheer bad luck. I still put more than the bare minimum into the things I do.

No one respects the pussy who doesn't commit to what he wants

>>41831243

At the office so I can't, but my physique isn't that great yet. I just started my cycle. Anyway, I was going to add tren maybe. What dose you suggest?

I don't think I need more test right now, and 2 more iu would give me severe carpal tunnel. I get tingly hands as it is. The pharmaceutical stuff is much more potent than blue tops.

Why the hate?

>>41831255
Youre pissing a lot of money away for qol improvements. But hey if you can afford it go ahead.

>>41831090
I'm eating about 4k calories a day on my Mcdonalds chicken nugget bulk. Hoping to go from DYEL to normal gym guy.

>>41831331

QOL?

What should I add to make it worth it?

>>41831277
Time constraints I'm finishing up my degree this year I'm only 21 looking to land a job and then I'll do big boy cycles. Also I'm lazy as fuck now between 2 jobs and school so I put very little effort into training but I'm not going to be natty and even more depressed.

>>41831352
quality of life

HGH just isn't worth it cost wise unless you're trying to be a competitive bodybuilder. You could add like 1 gram more of 5 different compounds for the same price.

>>41831250
This is true but you're one of the biggest out of us all lol. And also everything been going good for you lately?

>>41831320
Because you keep posting your stack, presumably just to brag.

Tren at 300-500 for nutrient partitioning so the slin doesn't just make you fat. Gh+tren+(1+g test)+slin=monster

Otherwise gh isn't worth fucking with, just gonna reduce your insulin sensitivity without a ton more anabolism than the test and oral alone will give you. Does increase intramuscular water retention and tdee a good bit, but not worth what you're paying for it.

New to this but just ordered 30ml Tren 100mg, 30ml test E 250mg and some var for a first cycle am I going a little too hard?

Opinons on mk677? Will there be any side effects? Anyone tried it?
im 18 btw

>>41831400
var is pointless unless you're 12% bf or under it's purely for vascularity and a little strength

>>41831417
So it's not good for cutting as from what I've read?

>>41831410
kys

>>41831373

While I agree from the muscle building aspect, HGH really has improved my skin, my sleep, my mood, my recovery, my sex drive (might be the test too, we will know in PCT).

I plan on running HGH 6 months on, 3 off, in perpetuity if I can afford it.

>>41831396

Showing off anonymously?

Genuinely wanted advice since it is my first cycle. Everybody I've asked recommends some hardcore stuff that is way more than I need right now. I'm 5'10 and 215, so I still have a lot of growth to do before I'm doing 1 gram of fucking test per week.

But thanks for the advice. I might do this in 6 months. What is slin btw?

>>41831400
Hope you bought ai/prolactin control

I would just run an oral instead of tren for your first time on gear. Orals are fucking awesome, dbol adrol sdrol are all good choices. Run tren on its own with trt test later on.

>>41831423
people say it's good for cutting to preserve muscle mass/strength

you're already taking tren, you don't have to worry about losing muscle on a cut.

"fat burning" effects are a meme

>>41831436
Insulin

>Steroids
LOL enjoy your osteoporosis

>>41831439
Well I did some Dbols for about 6 weeks in January got some huge strength gains and gained about 15lbs. I picked up some arimidex for pct and have a bit of nolva left over from taking those dbols.

I was under the impression that you should run test with tren even at a low dosage so you don't end up with erectile dysfunction.

>>41831465

Insulin and HGH together? Isn't that contradictory? I'm trying to lose some BF, not just get massive. I don't want to be hulk bod honestly.

>>41831482

Even I know that you need a test base for any cycle worth a damn. Dbol was cool in Russia during the bolshevik revolution. You can get much better gear now, even orals.

Same with winny- avoid.

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>>41831386
yea I'm perfect on vacation this weekend working on my sleeve

>>41831508
That's the point. Why do shit halfway. If you just want a jacked upper body, no need for fucking with the gh. You're gonna get weird ass sides down the line, kill your insulin sensitivity, look like shrek in the face etc.

Hgh is for those that need it for a sport or are trying to become a pro bber. And for the second, the results aren't as drastic without slin.

>>41831541
pathetic lower back to match your pathetic abs

non-existent core

How much of a difference would it make if I'm taking 5mg/10mg of Aromasin everyday instead of 6.25mg/12.5mg?
I'm gonna be running 500mg of Test E for 16 weeks.

>>41831108
Or he just doesn't come off?

>>41831577
It would make about 20% difference

>>41831577
>he needs AI on 500mg of test

LMAO FATASS

I haven't pinned in about 4 years and jumping on again however my living circumstances have changed and I stay at my girlfriend so but it's her place. I can't really pin without arousing suspicion and the only other place is my car but that's sus and not ideal

>>41831640
>cucked by your gf

>>41831541
Nice man, finishing it up now or more to go after this?

>>41831652
Feelsbadman.jpg

>>41831681
I told my gf I'm on hormone replacement therapy

>>41831696
British; its non existent here

>>41831708
I doubt that. You can't get treatment for low T in the UK even privately?

>>41831541
Tips for nice skin? My bacne comes and goes

>>41831732
Private clinics will offer at a heavy financial rate however it's not available via NHS (our universal healthcare)

>>41831733
Suffering from bacne aswell. Waiting for replies

>>41831733
>>41831800
Accutane

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>>41831320
>my physique isn't that great yet
>$1200 a month stack

When does tren a reach a peak in noticed effects? Week two and all that's happened is less subq water and better pumps/more strength.

Could be affected by hard cut but still, kinda expected more for all the hype. I guess it only has been two weeks

>>41831320
tren at 350 would explode your gains with test and hgh in there.
drop the var, it is worse for you than tren, srs.
Fucks lipids to shit at that dosage

hgh, 2 shots each with a low, low dose of slin, tren 350, test at 500 is good.

>>41832078
tfw took 100mg of anavar into 8 weeks of tren and anadrol

rip lipids

>>41830535
I don't rate EQ, loved the idea on paper but didn't feel the effects like I'd hoped. That absolute pleb ester too. Oestrogen sides don't really seem to effect me though, so if you're one who really suffers that way I can understand it I suppose.

Tell me about anavar lads

>>41832104
DHT really are not kind to cholesterol.
I had perfect hdl:ldl after 30 weeks of deca/test.
and OKish, but way worse levels after 10 weeks with 400 mast added to my test.

>>41832132
no noticeable sides but rapes you internally

no mass gains some strength gains and vascularity

>>41831806
I've got some, went on it for a few days and my hair started shedding lol, the fuck.

>>41832126
yeah 600 test e turned me into a pockmarked balloon of bitchiness I really didn't have a choice since the only chems I want to use are test, eq and npp.

>>41832132
Does pretty much everything at least decently, is gold for rehab and cutting, is very easy on the body especially in reasonable doses.

>>41832132

expensive as hell

>>41832132
feels good, makes you look good.
But the cosmetic effect is not worth how unhealthy it is.
Oils are so much better in any way, other than fast onset

>week 3 of tren
>no acne
>no hair loss
>no 89 IQ aggression
>terrible insomnia

I just eat 4-5 benadryl a day to cure this

>>41832173
my sleep is beyond fucked to after 2 weeks at 300.
And i sweat so bad when I eat a lot of carbs, good that I am cutting right now.

>>41832146
>>41832166
>>41832169
>>41832171
I've got 500 pills here at 20mg each, gonna be doing 100mg ED for 8 weeks with 300mg prop. You guys think it'll be a good cycle for cutting? Also any of you tried creatine with anavar? I've been reading lots of mixed thoughts on it with some saying it's the best shit ever and others saying they just get bloat from it.

>>41832205
creatine is fine if you don't mind giving up some hair on your head

>>41832216
are the benefits worth it though? Just wanna make the most of the cycle to be honest, not THAT fussed about hair loss but i'd rather avoid it if the creatine won't do much with the var

>>41832173
week 1 here.
>appear to sleep easily. until 4 am. with no exception wake up at 4 am for no reason.
>lethargic as fuck

>>41832205
(Quality) Var is redundant past ~40mg in my opinion, especially for cutting. Just save some for next time.

>>41832173
>>41832193
I sweat like crazy on tren but it doesn't really stop me sleeping. It totally rekt what was left of my hairline though. I was at the stage of shaving it once a week already though so whatever.

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Hnnng I'd like to bite those nipple piercings and pull them a little.

Instagram sloots man.

>>41831232
>I eat fast food daily
>I roid
>decent gains
>constantly depressed from relationships
HHAHAHAHAHAHA

you and crusader, is this even real life

>>41831277
This. Fuck mediocre.

IF YOU ROID YOU BETTER BE FUCKING HUGE AND RIPPED. Why fucking roid to be mediocre.

>muhh relationship
>muh feelings
>muh FUCKING EXCUSES

Why did we start roiding? WHY? because we wanted to bigger than everyone else. Bigger, better, stronger.

>the extreme amount of shitposting and banter in these threads

is this the power of roids?

>>41829901
brian cage

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>>41832516
thank god for instagram

>>41832615
MasT when you say 200-500g of rice on your carb refeed days, that's uncooked?

It's like day 4 of following your cutting diet. Feel like shit but I can still get a decent enough workout in. Still disgusting, got a while to go. Thanks for being my inspiration so I didn't just be satisfied with looking like shit.

>>41832615
>bigger better stronger
not likely lmao

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>>41832799
Jeff pls. We all know you haven't gotten over Robin yet.

Steroids are illegal, I'm calling the cops

>>41829705
Isn't he supposed to get roid rage and start being aggressive? How come he's smiling?

In week 5 of babys first cycle and i am not becoming stronk, what could it be? It is normal and i am a impatient bitch? I buy my test in the pharmacy so itsnt bunk, i also gained water weight, feel bigger and "harder"

>>41833122
What does your training/diet/sleep schedule look like?

>>41833122
>i am a impatient bitch
This

Wait three more weeks

>>41833122
you ARE eating 5k calories a day.. right?

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Does it matter who I buy Bitcoin from on Local Bitcoin? I want to buy $210 worth of Bitcoin, but every seller will give me different amounts of Bitcoin for $210. I wanted to buy $210 worth of gear, but will my source say it's not enough BTC depending on who I buy it from?

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>>41833294
Pic related

>>41833294
lol

the real value of btc is on exchanges such as coinbase or google (you can just type "210usd to btc" on google). localbitcoins is resellers, they decide how much they want for their btc.

>>41832999
idk who that is

>>41833262
FUCK
>>41833254
Training is fullbody 3 a week, compounds 4x8 and accesories 4x12, i decided to maintain my natty rutine and add more volume for muy first blast.
Diet is mostly clean, 3500c, gaining weight.
Sleep 7-8hours and some days more.
>>41833286
FUCKKKKK

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>>41833338
>only eating 3500 calories
>only working out 3 times a week
>why am I not making gains?

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>>41833338
>only 3 times a week
>only 3500 calories
CMON

>>41833359
>>41833373
Wouldnt fullbody be bad for mass but okay for strength? Should i kill myself? THANKS
>>41833386

>>41833338
Either eat more or potentially stop going for 4x8s for compounds and use a less retarded rep scheme if you want to move more weight quickly.

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>>41833417
whats wrong with 4x8

>>41833437
5x5 is better

>>41833405
full body 3 times per week is just about perfect.
If you do it right you will grow about as much as you possibly could.
Perfect for strength too.
Guys here think you have to do 14 sets of biceps, and then they look like taco gains

>>41833417
What should be a less retarded rutine? 5x5 compounds and volume in accesories? FUCK

>>41833437
Not cycling through rep ranges is kinda dumb.

Google gzcl jacked and tan 2.0 and run that. A lot harder to fuck up

>>41833437
Imo it doesn't really do anything well. You can't go as heavy with 4x8 as you could with a 5x5, 5x3, or potentially RPE based training, and you can get a fuck load more volume stimulus from something like a 10x10 for compounds. That being said it has worked for you until now, but if you're not progressing currently you need to change something in your training (eg eat more, up the dose, take a more active role in recovery, avoid things which stress the shit out of you, try harder, or change your rep scheme).
Or I suppose you could also try changing your exercise selection until you cannot progress on the new set of exercises and then rotate them again. That's an option too.

>>41833338
You could do fullbody every other day, or upper/lower 6-7x per week depending how much free time you got.

My rule is that if a routine works for natties, it'll definitely work for roiding.

And just remember to pound that food my dude

>>41833486
>jacked and tan 2.0

le rocky meme routine

>>41833451
post pics

Would TRT or roids help me with my autism? Seriously considering it, it's not like it can get much worst than it is for me right now

>>41833508
It's a basic template that has everything some new roider looking for mass and strength would need in a program.

Very autoregulated, plenty of room for loads of compound volume with isolation pump work

>>41833525
From personal experience, yes a little bit. But it won't work a miracle, hence we have jerry and crusader.

High test actually had a much greater effect on my outlook and interpersonal relationships than tren. Tren just made me anxious and jumpy in comparison, definitely a little more confident but test did it better.

>>41833554
To add

Being jacked as fuck and bigger than just about anyone you meet outside of fellow gym rats definitely helps a lot with confidence.

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WHERES MY ANADROL I ORDERED IT WEDNESDAY

>>41833509
tommorow, gf is asleep.
I'll get her to send me todays gym pics.
Cutting, 105kg and striated, veiny legs, striated chest etc.
Basically bigger than you.

>>41833554
Yeah I don't want a miracle just something to help me get over my stupid boundaries. I wonder if I should get my test tested, maybe I have legit low levels. I should look into a private doctor, I doubt my public one would agree to test me out of the blue

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>people take steroids without knowing basic lifting programming

>>41833525
No

>>41833554
Jerry is alpha as fuck

>>41831320
>won't use ugl test
>wants to add tren
What shitty bait

>>41833647
You can get pharma tren in latin america

>>41833607
yeah sure anonymous person, you'll post them tomorrow

>>41833665
yeah but is it worth the downside of living in latin america

>>41833665
>>>>>>pharma tren

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>>41833680
No

>>41833629
You got any other ideas?

>>41833700
Get a daki

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>>41833665
>pharma tren

>>41833700
Get a daki

>>41833723
>>41833686
veterinary grade

>>41833615
I had average levels (600ish ng/dl) and still experienced a minor personality shift.

To be fair I'm also at an age where my brain is still finishing development (started 22 now 23) so any changes might be better explained as just maturing

>>41833732
Landerlan makes pharma tren, Paraguay is a beautiful shithole

>>41831090
Why would you go so far as to inject Test, when you're half arsing diet and gym.

>up over 10 lbs from my reefed yesterday
Now I have to piss out all this water weight, great

>>41833732
Theres a big difference between human and livestock grade pharmaceuticals. So its not pharma
But yeah

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Why bother roiding if you're too small to ever pleasure a woman properly?

>tfw got a shit job but i dont wana leave cause its a 5 min walk away and the pay is alright
>theyre faggots who intentionlly atarted understaffing so ita hard to get vacations
>2nd time in 2 months i pretend my holiday got approved

gonna have another confrontation with this cunt manager, fucking piece of shit nigger who only picks on people who dont dight back(fellow nig or asians, hes too much of a pussy to escalate vs mostly whites or pakis and nigs wholl cause a ruckus).

im not afraid of fights but i seriously hate having to.

How much does juicing cost for you guys..well he moderate juicers? (EU)

Quadrupling my gains seems so tempting, are the health risks of moderate use quite significant?

>>41833762
>Made it to enjoyable even on a meme chart

Feels good man

>>41833748
>far
>inject test
lmao dude

>>41833761
yo jerry

you do liquid only psmf right? how's the hunger? also on ec(a)?

>>41833761
>Tfw lost 10lbs of water weight over the last two days
It's all one big cycle guys

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>nipples started dripping brown milk onto gf while banging her in missionary

Th-Thanks Tren

>>41833762
Women are useless anyways

Theyll all be replaced by fuck machines imminently

And pillows already provide a better relationship.

>>41833839
I find myself more satiated than a chicken version
No eca

>>41831640
Pin at the gym.

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Do you guys want kids?

>>41834061
I'm getting a vasectomy the first day a doctor agrees I'm old enough

>>41833846
TAKE YOUR WATERWEIGHT BACK
Actually I look pretty full
Take it back tomorrow

>>41834061
Another reason dakis are better

I hope Mcgregor kills that nigger Mayweather

>>41834061
Yeah my goal is to find some chick that has better genes and work ethic than me and get her knocked up.

Barring that I become mormon and have two wives. They'll be so busy trying to one up each other there's no room for """boredom""". Plus you know if one cheats the other will definitely try and play it up to me so she can be 'the better wife'.

>>41834222
I'm actually curious about how that's good going to go. No idea really because I do not know now much about pro fighting but I would think McGreggor would have the upper hand

How long before the FDA bans DMAA? Should I stock up?

>>41834260
Nvm I thought it was UFC rules not boxing

>>41834260
they're not doing UFC they're doing boxing mayweather obviously has the advantage it's his sport and he's undefeated

hoping that mcgregor kick mayweather in the head and kills him even though he'll get disqualified

>>41834260
McGregor has a less than 1% chance of winning. If he were to pull it off it would be the biggest upset in combat sport history.

>>41831640
So don't do steroids then? I'm not understanding what's you're asking for. You can't really hide steroids from someone you love with. Not sustainably anyways.

>>41834061
I'm having one soon, I know I'm not getting cucked though.

>>41834279
Woah qboa whoa wtf
whoaaaaaaaaaaaa chilll
whoaaaaaaaaaaa hold on

>>41834329
you can never know though

>>41834083
Do you have to be a certain age to get one?

>>41834387
I'm as sure as anyone could ever be m8, not every woman is out whoring every chance she gets.

>>41834273
heh yea, agreed. That'll show that UPPITY NIGGER

>>41834443
I've read that some people got turned down because the doctor didn't want to have to deal with remorse later since the person was quite young. Maybe someone will do it for the money regardless of age. I'm only 21 but I would go tomorrow if I could

>>41834329
You gonna get your kid dna tested?

I think I'd wanna do that regardless if I trusted the mother or not

>>41834329
I should hope not.
Id like to know who my wifes father is

>>41834479
>You gonna get your kid dna tested?

We'll get a 23andme, it'll give info on potential genetic issues and in the event I was getting cucked I could tell from the admixture results.

>>41834533
Would you dump the kid if it was retarded?

I think I'd do my best to get my deformed baby aborted asap or at the very least adopted. Barring that guess I'm paying child.support to a single.mother of a retard

>>41834551
Yeah, we've had that talk. If it's a potato we're not going to keep it.

>>41834583
Thank fucking God some people take a reasonable approach

>>41834469
whoa whoa whoa

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So is running NAC a waste of time and I should just spend my money on TUDCA or what?

>>41834932
thats a man

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>originally wanted to get 'shredded' for paradiso next week
>now I just want my delts and traps to pop like fug while sporting a tank top that says "free bear hugs"

GOTTA POUND THAT PEANUT BUTTER, PROTEIN POWDER, AND SDROL BABY

Degeneracy at full speed ahead boys

>>41835000
low iq

>>41835000
Under 10% isn't worth it, just get down to whatever you can maintain while keeping your head-game on point. An extra 2% body fat won't keep you from getting pussy but being moody and hungry certainly could.

>>41835044
Kinda too late for that. I'm already sitting at 15-16% bodyfat. I'm just gonna take advantage of the size gains of babby's first cycle and have fun. There's always next year to shred down with some test, tren, and maybe DNP. I'm young and got a lot of time ahead of me to become a freak beast

>>41834932
>that guy who goes on r/all and just saves random pics of girls to post on /fraud/ every day

nac is okay. it's not milk thistle meme tier but it somewhat works. tudca is much better. there's a tudca source selling nac/tudca "blends" also

>>41835000
>these girls never lifted in their lives

>>41835091
They'll lift your penor into their mouth tho

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>>41835091
girls don't need to

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>tfw checking everyday to see if he's taking in new customers yet
It's been 3 weeks
I need my butt juice

>>41829705
>big strong muscley steroids men too beta to create new threads
Didn't you get the memo? We already knew you're all BETA AS FUCK as soon as we discovered you're on roids.

>>41835198
you really shouldn't have to wait that long for a source

there's a billion other

>>41835821
America is littered with sources.
Try being australian or god forbid canadian

>>41835821
He has the best prices and takes the only method of payment I can use.

What would happen if I went off without pct and visited an endo with the intent of blood tests and eventual trt

>>41835977
He would put you on estro you sissy

>>41836222
Wondering about legalizing my baseline test levels for staying bnc if I choose to.

Scheduled a doctor appointment for the first time in like five years. I was moving around a lot before because of school, so I didn't bother with it. I'm graduated now, so things should be more stable.

I've been running self-administered TRT since February. Is it safe to just keep going and talk to the doctor about it before he does the blood work he has scheduled, or am I going to get fucked with insurance and stuff?

I'm still on mom's insurance, so I don't want to make things harder for her if I don't have to.

>>41829835
what i miss

>tfw them big swollen nads on toremifene
>tfw currently tiny and suppressed and cant wait for pct and them big loads in my gf's snatch again

>>41836472
ESTP came back for a thread then got bullied away

I don't really care about gains, i just want to feel good but not mental or crazy angry and emotional; i can't handle any of that right now.
what kinda stuff should I take?

>>41836494
just another worthless attention whore

>>41836506
you should take a nap

>>41836367
I'm not really sure but it might be best to get off the test and go clean and restart your system before you go. idk though
what dose were you on, how was it?

>>41836543

I ran 250 mg/wk for a while, which was too high for TRT, but I really enjoyed it. Dropped to 150 so I wouldn't have to use AI and to get my lipids back in line.

I feel loads better than I did before. My natural test was in the mid-300s, and being at ~1300 felt really good.

The appointment isn't until August, so I have some time to sort it out. I'm really hoping that I won't have to come off, though.

I've heard from a friend that it's a legal gray area, and the doctors don't have to disclose it (something something patient confidentiality something), but I'm not entirely convinced.

>>41836595
You concern isn't legality. Your concern should be astronomical insurance premiums because now you have "steroid abuse" on file, which is a thing that will occur.

>>41836607

>am I going to get fucked with insurance and stuff?

The insurance is exactly my concern. Is there a way I can avoid the black mark without actually cycling off?

If I get a prescription, I'll be unable to BnC the way I want, but I also don't want to have to PCT every time I see a doctor.

Daaaamn, my dudes. Used the entire morning and early afternoon to nap and catch up on some much-needed sleep that Tren had robbed me of throughout the week, and it felt fucking amazing. Seems like no matter what time I get to bed, I always wake up at 5 AM on Tren, even without an alarm clock. On nights when I'm busy doing shit until 2 AM, that can be a real bitch... Same thing happened this morning, but I slammed down my morning meals and let the carb coma work its magic while I laid on the couch watching Netflix. Woke up feeling like a new man and powered through another 3 hours in the gym like an animal. Just wanted to share these good Saturday feels with my fellow gearheads. Hope you're having a great weekend, /fraud/! :)

>>41836643
just switch to a short ester test and use steroidcalc.com to figure out how long you need to get off for the blood test then hop right back on

though any doctor with a brain is going to see your fsh and lh is non-existent and your balls are shriveled

just go to a clinic they will write you a script regardless most dont take insurance stop being a poorfag

>>41836823
popped 4 benedryl and got amazing sleep last night, decided to try a preworkout that came complimentary with my tudca purchase and just hit me that this shit has 200mg of caffeine and DMAA and there's no way I'll sleep for another 6 hours

fucking kill me

>>41837237
Better stock up on DMAA preworkouts since the FDA is going to ban them soon.

>>41837257
whats another illegal compound on top of the 10 im already taking

tfw you want to cheat but can't be bothered with needles or doing tons of research not to fuck up your body

>>41837289
>10 im already taking

Easy there Bostin Lloyd.

>>41837237

Damn, dude. That sucks. Hope you get some rest eventually!

>>41837289

Kek

>>41837312
Just run a sdrol cycle.its cool

anyone else subscribe to rich pianoman after that audiotape came out where he called black people niggers

I feel hes an ally in the upcoming race war

what steroid has the most mild side effects?

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>>41837334
resubscribed

>>41837408
testosterone

>>41837408

Just run Test and call it good.

>>41837408
god you are fucking pathetic you know that you come here to the steroid thread obviously as a beginner who wants to use steroids but use the most mild pussy steroid

just stick to natty you're not cut out for this life you should be asking whats the most POWERFUL shit thats gonna FUCK YOUR SHIT UP but make you grow

fucking die

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>>41837430
daily reminder that meanposters are NOT allowed

>>41831218

Are you actually weighibg out your food fatty? Bet you scoff 5kcal of nuts a day and think it is obly 5ookcal

>>41831218
>250mg

my dead grandma takes a higher dose than that while cutting double it at least

>>41837430
lol

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>>41837514
>>41837430

>brown lactation montha after tren blast
>fuck it spent a lot of money on caber
>weekend out, as a result i literally only had diet coke, 2 subs, 3-4 mcdonalds burgers, chinese bakery buns and a falafel wrap each day

ridiculous, i have no water retention at all, normally my face would be rouns as kim jong un and my lovehandles would expand like hell after a single day

>>41837734
lactation will go away if you're not on tren nice job wasting money cuck

>>41837797
>months after

i guess someones an illiterate retard.

or is waiting almost 3 months not good enough?

>>41837819
keep justifying that buyers remorse :))

>>41836481
toremifene i haven't heard of that one sourced before
its a good pct?

Is there a single reason to hold on to your natty card?

>>41837951
being a pussy of nonexistent sides, unless you go full retard

being happy with how you already are

being poor

>>41837951
maybe if you like watching your gf fucked by bulls in that case stay natty and eat lots of soy take your ssris from your jewish doctor like a good little cuck

if you're an actual man no

My family has a history of hormonally sensitive cancers: HER2-positive breast cancer among the females, testicular and prostate cancer in the males. E.g. my mother was prescribed anti-estrogenic drugs and my uncle testosterone "blockers" after their chemotherapy and radiation treatments. As I understand, TRT would be make my hig-risk genetics even more risky. Is that what the current studies seem to indicate?

>>41837951
Wanting to have children later on

>>41838022
see point one
>>41837961

>>41838025
Oh some roiduser told me roid side-effects are none-existant.

Okay I'm convinced

>>41838035

not an argument

>>41838039
Exactly

>>41838035
everything done to extremes fucks you up, including drinking fucking water

does Arnold have no kids, you think he was doing safer cycles than people do now a days?

>>41838015
trt no, blasting or "good intention" trt maybe.
in any case stay away from hgh or peptides

>>41838015
>>41838105
adding:
prostata cancer is now linked to low test instead of high test. a lot of people die with prostata cancer not because of it.
source my endo

>>41838105
Can you elaborate? I'm not familiar with the terminology.

>>41838061
>everything done to extremes fucks you up
True
> including drinking fucking water
True, but that does not mean drinking water and doing roids carry the same risk, which is what you are implying.
>does Arnold have no kids,
He has kids, I'm not saying you won't have kids when you use roids, you just increase your risk of becoming infertile, obviously that risk isn't 100% but it's still a risk.

>>41838136

You can die from drinking water, thats pretty much the most extreme risk you can take.

>>41838144
I feel like I'm arguing with an infant here, in what way do you actualy think that constitues a valuable argument for discrediting the risks involved with steroid usage?

>>41838155
Why do you even come to this thread?

>>41838160
for shits and giggles

>>41838155

Life is risk, faggot, stay inside if you're scared to overcome.

>>41838174
Correction, life is about calculated risks

>>41838136
>you just increase your risk of becoming infertile, obviously that risk isn't 100% but it's still a risk.
I feel like you haven't actually researched anything about cycling, just know the general fallacies that the public shares

the most basic cycle and what the average person actually means when they say roids, it's just testosterone, and you can COMPLETELY mitigate sides with the on cycle meds, and right pct

the sides you think exist, heart issues / extreme hair loss / infertility / liver toxicity, only exist in extreme cases of taking ridiculously high mg amounts/ huge stacks, along without taking the proper preventative medications

>>41838190
The research you have done probably involved speaking about steroid usage on forums with other steroid users who all have a strong motivation to underestimate the risks.

Did you visit an actual docter to get advise before you started your cycles? My guess is no.

I don't really care when people do roids, the only thing that bothers me if they deny it when it's obvious, or if they are being stupid about it (this is totaly risk free!).

Sure, use roids, but realise the risk your taking, and as long as you are okay with that, blast away. But don't kid yourself into thinking it's risk free just because other roiders convinced you of this.

>>41838212
so no you have no idea? just spouting public opinion fallacies, pce bro

What happened to KAHUNA? I miss that kid and I wanted to see him succeed

>>41838231
That's right, stick your head in the sand

>>41829705
Faggots.

You know what I do when I see a new thread. I crtl + f "crusader" just to see what you shit cunts say about me. Never fail to have a giggle.

Will blog post after dinner. Had a good day.

>>41838120
all in natty replacement terms up to 150 is almost save, everythingnover that is a "good" trt or blast

>>41838283
year of kahuna posponed till 2018

>Last night
>exgf went out with friends
>I'm foaming at the mouth with anxiety
>Actually had my first anxiety attack in years
>Am talking to her
>Regular conversation
>Suddenly it just dies and she's giving me one word responses after I offer to walk her home from the train station at night.
>Text redhead girl calling exgf a fucking bitch and go on a massive fuck off rant about how I hate her and I'll kill any faggot who touches her
>redhead girl tells me it's just the anxiety
>fast forward
>exgf was supposed to come around to mine and pick me up to go an exhibition
>She's slightly hungover and woke up late
>Tells me to come around to her place instead and we'll drive from there
>Panicking because one of the reasons she broke up with me is because I didn't get along with her family
>Get there, get right along with everyone, actually make an effort
>We leave
>Have good time at exhibition, a lot of subtle touching and moving into each other
>On the way back, mention I might have to go onto anxiety meds
>She asks why
>Because of panic attack
>"Why did you have a panic attack?"
>>I thought you were angry with me
>She explains her short responses because she wanted to stay alert walking at night
>feel better
>Get back to hers
>She needs a nap before we go and collect my things from my brothers apartment (last night was yesterday)
>Just sit next to her while she lays down
>She cuddles up against my arm
>I lay my free hand over one of her hands and tenderly stroke her fingers
>Nap is over, but she's took sick to leave. She cuddles up against me more and whimpers that she doesn't want to move
>Tell her it's okay and I go about and move my shit using her car
>Get back to hers
>Have a good minute hug before I leave
>She texts me later thanking me for the date

Things are looking up.

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Im aiming at my second cycle

Wanna lose BF and gain lean mass

Entering around 15%, have good Var, Test E, and all the AI and SERMS needed, assuming I just dont cruise after

What do I add to improve fat loss and lean muscle gain? Tren? Anything but DNP ill try.

>>41838631
Tren is alright.

>>41838631
how about u lose weight now and bulk on cycle

>>41838588
Kek

>>41832923
Cooked i guess, but it's just an estimate. 150 grams of carb with each meal.

I am adding another carb day this week. They natty eye is returning to his old form.

>>41838615
You're a special person.

any cbt pics of you?

>>41838852
>You're a special person.

Thanks xD

>any cbt pics of you?
I've posted in CBT threads under anon. But never under my trip. Don't want to be doxxed.

>>41838852
he is afraid, claims he has a stalker and destinctive body so everyone knows who he is

mysterious stuff

>>41839053
I don't have a distinctive body you nigger faggot. Although I've certainly been threatened with being doxxed multiple times and I'm not taking chances.

>>41839059
>every single post is natty dyel
Good job! Can't tell who you are at all.

>>41839059
Or because you look so unremarkable you can't take the bantz when people realize you're >roiding for this

>>41838631

Tren was nice. I don't see the point in mixing with it with var, even if your var is actually winstrol.

The best thing you can do is cruise.

You're already willing to run a second cycle, and a harsh compound on top of that. You'll like your gains while you're on but afterwards you won't look as good as you did. Just cruise and you will actually obtain your goal.

I have enough muscle mass for my sport but I want chimp strength is halotestin the best for that?

>>41839915

yes but only while you're taking it. for strength purposes, i've only read about people taking it just before competitions.

i'd grab some milk thistle if you plan to run it.

>>41839953
the gains don't last?
sheeit

>>41839959

you'll maintain some strength afterwards, especially if you cruise. But you won't retain the strength you had while on it, even if your diet is perfect afterwards.

just do normal roids and develop strength over time, your liver and skin will thank you.

>>41839959
If you want the gains to last then you need to make them through lifting, of course which most steroids will substantially help with making muscular gains, those kind of gains will last.

The strength gains added from steroids without listing wont last when you stop taking those steroids, as theyre not giving you that strength by changes to your muscular tissue.

Uhhhhhhh this heat
*drowns in my own sweat*
*dies*

>>41833762
Tfw big dick but too autistic for any woman to ever find out

>>41841389
Just get yourself a chub in public nbd

>>41841389
>create tinder
>bio - my dick swings as low as my social interactions

How do I know if I accidentally inject to a vein?

>>41841875
If you get blood when you aspirate. Alternatively if you get a big squirt of blood when you pull the needle out.

>>41833847
Huh so that's where chocolate milk comes from.

>>41841875
you die instantly, so if you dont die you know you're fine

Can anyone think of any good reason for people not to roid if they have a habit of going to the gym already? Can't think of a single one

Do any of you faggots use hcg during bnc. I see faggots on dutch bb forum say it's a must to do so.

thoughts?

>>41839036
You use the same dyel excuse as all dyels

You scared someone will recognize your nipples.I even posted my face many times and i have secret dick pics on the internet, but got never exposed because i am simply too powerful to get doxxed

>>41842105
hm what's their reasoning?
and what kind of regime of hcg they talking about?

>>41842105
Dutch people are retarded when it comes to everything.

>>41842144
i thought they were smart

>>41842158
Really? They are a nation of cowards who would betray their own grandmother to avoid a confrontation, they're almost as bad as the french.

>>41833762
fake

>>41842177
REALLY!? ZOMFG THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT!

>>41842124
Controversial. There is one professor like we had over here with Brick, spouting all kind of theories and everyone believes him because he uses fancy words

Probably for quicker recovery. I have read a study that hcg could damage your sperm cells if you use it long term.

>>41842144
I feel it also.

>>41842177
7-8 inch is good enough. I have a 7 inch and that even shocks her when i enter. Girth is probably more important than length.

There are also enough woman with a cauliflower looking pussy. fucking disgusting

>>41842211
Did mast make your dick bigger? No homo

I'm only 6" never measured girth but looks average. Considering jelqing and bathmate to get dick gains to go with the muscle gains. Even another inch would be pretty based

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>>41842320
>only 6"

>>41842345
I'm 6'3" and take steriods. It looks small af compared to the rest of me.

>>41842345
Jerry how bigs yours you paedo, rapist, weirdo

>>41842320
No, but it will make it harder and fuller. Smalls balls wil make it also look bigger.

did a woman every complain about your dick? I shouldn't worry about it.

TRT making me horny, hungry and want to train a lot, also impulsive. Should I just embrace it and do what my body tells me?

.t had about 4k calories and trained for 3 hours today

>>41842439
Nah but using that logic no girl ever complained I was too dyel either. I just wanted to be jacked as fuck on my own, just like I want a big dick for myself.

I'mma try the bathmate in conjunction with some ghrp shit and a strong dht. If that doesn't get results ain't nothing will. Gonna be a few months from now though before I can start a solid regimen. I'll take before pics for you guys no homo

>>41842506
impulsive, like how?

>>41842517
is ghrp a peptide? it expensive?

>>41842538
telling whatever I want to say whenever I want, its making me edgy and giving me this feeling of superiority or something. Also I am losing control of myself, before this I was doing keto and had no appetite now I can't stop myself from going out and buying food. Even when I train its like my brain turns off and I go hard like I never used to in my life

>>41842557

What's your dose?

>>41842546
Ghrp is growth hormone releasing peptide. You take it in conjunction with a ghrh. It shouldn't be expensive. But some generic hgh is getting cheap enough that comparing prices you might as well just do hgh. I haven't looked that deeply into it yet to be completely honest so I might be off base.

Still needs multiple pins a day so probably a pain in the ass. I can deal with sox months of slin pins though, why not. Especially if I might get some dick and muscle gains out of it.

>>41831090
>Cannon ball delts
>baby bitch biceps
Literally roiding 4 this?

>>41842570
150mg test E/week. my free T was almost 0 before I started self-administering TRT

>>41842557
Placebo except for the hunger. Unless you were really low like under 350ng/dl

>>41832615
This
If you fucking hop on gear you better become a fucking freak and leave humanity behind. Dont take the shit if you're going to half ass it you fuck ups

>>41834339
Is whoa posting new meme?
>because its shit

>>41842360
Im 6' and take steroids and it would look small on a baby

>>41842374
Come on over and find out ;)

>>41842717
RIP

Do the gh+dht+jelqin/bathmate stack with me.

We'll compare results no homo

>>41838615
Wtf is wrong with you?

>>41837878
Its ok. Not as strong as nolva but way less sides

>>41842517
But girls don't care about muscle, but they do care about dick size so there goes your metaphor

But i agree with the other thing you're saying. Everything you doing is because you want to better yourself en be happy with yourself. That's why i never happy. Get it

>>41842627
Imagine we all be big fucking shredded monsters.

Like our own 5% crew. THE WORLD IS NOT READY FOR THIS

>>41842849
gay in denial.

he uses this non-existence,fictitious girlfriend of his to suppress his gay thoughts. We all got our own way to deal with shit

>>41843019
Bullshit girls definitely care about muscle. Just men care a lot more. Same thing with dicks

>Roid forum
>We're not all big shredded monsters
It's a fucking shame is what it is

>>41842627
You don't have to go full 5 scoops leave humanity behind bodybuilder hueg. But if you're on a moderate dose you should be at fitness model size at least.

is there a difference between mast and winny in terms of looks/aesthetics?

>>41844143
Winny is stronger but more harsh on lipids, mast isnt hepatoxic