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i overdosed on phenibut last night. i took 7.5g over 6 hour period

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i overdosed on phenibut last night. i took 7.5g over 6 hour period and blacked out around 8pm. my mom found me on the couch unresponsive and called an ambulance. i was severely dehydrated and they had to put me on a drip. i just got released.

so just be careful with this stuff.
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yeah 7.5g is a massive dose. no shit you overdosed. You're supposed to start off at around 500mg to see how you respond to it.
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>>41811847
What's the point of this stuff.
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no, you be careful.
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>>41811847
Natural selection.
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>>41811871
Legal brain scrambler
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Doesn't this thing feel like adderall in some ways? where you are a lot more responsive.

Thinking about ordering off ebay right now.
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>>41811871
>>41811932
I think Reddit says its being drunk without intoxication. I also found it can help you sleep, however I have not taken it personally.
>>41811847
>Be careful not to take over 6x the recommended amount
Thanks op!
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>>41811958
>I think Reddit says its being drunk without intoxication. I also found it can help you sleep, however I have not taken it personally.

I actually have anxiety, never been to the doctor about it but i have every fucking sign plus my mother has anxiety.

I sweat, get nervous, stumble words when talking to randoms etc.. so i might try it. Not going doctor because they will take my guns away if i take anti anxiety medication which is fucking bullshit.

I'm perfectly normal otherwise.
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>>41811985
What a fucking retard you are.
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>>41811999
Just bought capsules for 30$ on bulk website, OP list other good feels you received on it.
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>>41811985
Yeah man just do your research(dosage and tolerance). Also GNC doesn't carry it so you're going to have to find it somewhere online
>>41811999
Rood
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>>41812034
Found a site, cheap as fuck also.

http://www.bulknutrients.com.au/
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>>41811847
lol OP i left my phen on the table when i fell asleep during an acid trip, one of my friends drank like 10 grams and couldnt walk, kept passing out , and hes legit 5 foot 6 and skelly

phen is pretty shit desu
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>>41812030
it's not that great, it's not a powerful drug by any means. it's not even close to vallium or xanax, it's a very mild effect, take a gram at most first, you are getting ripped off buying caps btw
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>>41812407
Here in straya, my hourly pay is 30 an hour, 1 hour of pay for 120 caps 250mg.

Not much to me, bud.
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>>41812030
buy it in powder and you're supposed to buy the best/most potent version you can
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>>41812446
caps are still shit
also fellow strayan,$30 an hour wtf where do you work
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>>41812508
Don't shipping this shit from another country, reading around the place i bought it from has some great side affects. Checked up numerous sources.

If it's not as potent as the fancy names, even better. The side affects will probably be less severe.

>>41812519

Engineer.
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>>41811847
You idiots are going to get it scheduled

Please stop being dumb
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>>41812446
You need 3g at least to feel the bulk nutrients phenibut. it's not 100%
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>>41812577
Actually 1g is plenty.
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>>41812584
Just saying from my experience.
1g didn't really notice anything, a bit of a mood lift not sure if placebo or just the coffee I took it.
2g-3g is decent, mood lift and a little bit of anxiety reduction, good sleep.
3-5g is recreational for me, feel charismatic as fuck, no anxiety and can actually talk to girls without spergin out. I get a bit of nausea though
i'm 95kg and 6'3'' btw so it's different for everyone
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>>41812030
Fucking hell, the package has already been shipped it states.

After an hour.
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Phenibut is like baby benzos, but that doesn't mean you should take it lightly.

Recommended dosage is 1 mg every other day, or no more than 4 mg in one week. That's no more than 4 mg every 7 days.

This shit can fuck you up if you take it all the time or take too much.

Personally I take 2.5 to 3 mg for a good time and only do that probably once a month.
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>>41811958
>its being drunk without intoxication

so not being drunk
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>>41813202

>mg in place of g

muricans cannot into metric
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>>41812038
>>41812577

yeah i use the bulk nutrients and i need about 3g to feel it. either way, its probably the best non prescription anti anxiety stuff i've taken.

>>41812528
>>41812508

careful buying from another country if you're australian, i've heard some people say customs can be pricks about letting it through
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>>41813242
How much g did you start off with?
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>>41813249

i took 500mg, felt nothing - then went to 1.5g, felt a bit and then upped to 3g

be aware though, if you're just sitting at home, you might not feel its effects. some people say they don't feel it until they are actually out socialising, etc

it also can take upto 4-6 hours to kick in
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>>41811985
Im pretty sure if you live in US some anxiety disorders will not prevent you from owning a gun. If you even live in the US. I take zoloft, but never applied for a gun. Jist do research.
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>>41813202
mg?

phenibut is a sedative with anti addiction actions.

Abuse or overdose is deadly.
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>>41811847
i did this with 6g a couple weeks ago when some stuff i was repressing suddenly hit me at uni
i threw up probably 20+ times throughout the night and could barely move until the next morning. slept on and off for 14 hours but felt like i had gotten none. went to a job interview a couple hours after i finally managed to get out of bed lol
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>>41812675
i get my packages from them within about 2 days of ordering
bulk nutrients are goat
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>>41811847
where to buy in america?
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>>41813321
Lol spooky shit. How was the interview? Did they comment on how you smelled like vomit?
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>>41811985
Hmm, I'm on many psych meds and have 20ish guns in my house, including an SKS with a night vision scope and I still have my guns. In fact guns never came up when I was in the ER for "attempted suicide" (I accidentally od'd) and have severe anxiety issues. Oh well
Pic related is muh pupper and my SKS
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>>41811847
You idiot.
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>>41813373
anywhere
liftmode.com
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>>41813449
it was an assessment centre so it was an interview plus some other activities and took about 3 hours
couldn't focus at all on the first task but was okay after a while and i made the only grill there laugh a bunch so i felt pretty good by the end of it
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>>41813450
>Night scope on SKS
>"Night Scope"
I hope you die of AIDs
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>>41811847

I've used this product many many times. 2-3x a week.

Here are a few ideas.


IT fucking works wonders. defiantly a mood lifter and gives you a bit of confidence and an ability to talk to strangers.

feels like you're light on your feet and everything is going to be awesome. Imagine school just got cancelled and you have a bright sunny day to go outside and have fun all day.

but it won't make to suddenly become mr.amazing awesome. but it defiantly helps.

you'll have a WAY better vibe about you and people will pick it up.

Dosage.

1 scoop. should kick in 2-4 hours. caffeine helps bring it out.
perhaps another scoop after 4 hours.

Be careful shit will make you sleepy. and sometimes more emotional.

if you take it to go out and meet women. be careful if you take too much. you'll just want to sleep when you get back to your place.
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>>41813643
it kinda looks like a yukon nvrs
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>>41813643
You incorrectly quoted me, babe. I said night vision scope. I would say nvrs but most people wouldn't know what that is
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Phenibut is extremely addictive don't take that shit anons. It will fuck you up same as benzos. It's for degenerates only.
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>>41814841

nope. it doesn't work 2 days in a row. it's something that has to be take 2-3x a week max to work.

hell if you take too much you just get sleepy
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>>41811847
Taking those in for of pills 500 mg a day when job gots hard. It was created to supoport soviet cosmonauts and long flight jet pilots, you know.
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I took an allergie pill recently and decided to take a phenibut pill so I won't feel sleepy. But phenibu boosted the effect instead so I've slept 10 hours and felt sleepy for the whole next day.
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>>41814937
phenibut isnt supposed to make you stay awake...
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>>41811847
I take like 12 x 250 mg capsules before a night out. Never had any problems
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>>41813223
You know exactly what he means Mr. Edgy. Shut the fuck up.
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>>41813280
How long does it last?
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>>41811847
>so just be careful with this stuff.

Why on earth would you take 7.5 g over 6 hours? The half life is ~5 hours and the doses should stay under 1 g a day.

Faggot.
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>>41814962
It helped me to carry on when I my mind was exhsausted so I wondered would it help me to save concentration in this case.
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>>41815174
Have you considered reading about it online? Dosing, how often, addictive properties... Etc.
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>>41811871
Designed by Soviet chemists for astronauts to handle high stress situations while handling incredibly costly spacecraft, Phenibut's effect is subtle, long lasting (several hours) and comes very quickly. It is designed to increase relaxation and concentration without causing drowsiness. As a side effect it is very addictive if taken daily. You are supposed to cycle it and take it no more than thrice per week, in the specified doses.

For casual use it's worthless and has too many downsides. Phenibut is excellent to manage high stress times; like combat situations, your first week(s) learning game, times in which you have to do massive changes in your habits/schedule and if correctly used can help in getting through withdrawals from other more harmful drugs.

Lately it has become sort of a fad and too many impulsive retards will suffer from getting into it too carelessly, without planning its use.
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>7,5 g
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>>41815395
Can I take it once or twice a week, for studying and before a date? Or will this fuck me up?

Also, what are the downsides you speak of?
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>>41812653
185cm/94kg me did just fine on 1g every so often

First time ever I actually took 1.5g and was pretty woozy and slightly nauseous, never took more than that since
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2 scoops lads.
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>>41815661
Very addictive in a similar way to caffeine, yet the withdrawal is way, way stronger. As coffee, at some point you stop taking it for its positive effects and only drink it to fend off the negative ones of the withdrawal, whether you acknowledge that consciously or not. If you do, then is when you realize that you've just got yourself just another useless addiction.

>Can I take it once or twice a week, for studying and before a date? Or will this fuck me up?
Take it when you've got extreme situations like when there's final exams and they all come at once and you've got to study for hours and hours on end. This is the level of stress in which is acceptable to use stimulants like caffeine (higher doses) and things like Phenibut, but being extremely mindful of the doses, lest you end up like the retard of OP.

Drugs like these are to be used on occassion, as something you keep in the closet for "emergency times", not with any regularity.
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>>41813682
>>41813682

Exact same way I experienced Phenibut. Make me want to do things, be productive. Never made me sleepy though.
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>>41812392
Is your friend retarded?
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i took 600mg my first time yesterday before a job interview and felt like it didnt help
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>>41816985
Well you can try a higher dose but sometimes it just doesn't work for some people. All it does to me is make me dizzy and sleepy.
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>>41811985
Was REALLY bad with anxiety/panic attacks and anti anxiety meds didn't work. Made it worse and coming off easily hell.

Now I'm on Test and it's changed my life. Massive gains, diet is amazing, and my mental well-being is spot on.
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>>41811847
> 7.5g
> Be careful guise!!

Fucking moron.
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>>41811847
I took about 1/2 tsp. and didn't feel a thing, seems like I need at least 3/4 tsp. for it to work, but it makes my head hurt like fuck.
I wait 1-2 hours before and after eating to take it.
Anything I'm doing wrong? I'd love to feel the effects at 500 mg like some people claim to.
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>>41811847
i overdosed on penisbutt last night. i took 7.5" over 6 hour period and blacked out around 8pm. my mom found me on the couch unresponsive and cake in dried semen. i was severely dehydrated and i caught the drip. i just got released.

FTFY
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God the US is such a fucking shithole. I dont know a single person on any fucking anxiety meds. Some Canadian guy uses Adderall for studying, thats about it.
The world is better off without you losers.
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>>41818196
Where do you live?
Back in Eastern Europe I didn't know a single person on anxiety meds either, everybody just drinks all the time.
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>>41818231
Europe. It has its drawbacks but at least they aren't pumping children and adults alike full of fucking drugs till they are sedated, apathetic and tired with life.
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>>41817255
blast or cruise? blast and cruise?
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>>41818254
>at least they aren't pumping children and adults alike full of fucking drugs till they are sedated, apathetic and tired with life.
No. Instead they convince them to peacefully breed themselves out of existence..
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>>41818400
Yeah not where I live but its horrible to see what happens to Europe right now. That being said, how are they related? Is your pride so fragile that you feel the need to retort in such a manner?
Both things are disgusting. At least you can choose to not take the drugs prescribed to you. People survived thousands of years without it, what makes you think that its vital to your life now?
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>>41813242
Yo aussie bro how does it compare to Valium/Xanax or even valerian root
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>>41811847
7.5g is fucking retarded. I do 2g and have crept up as far as 3 before and was fine (but I'm a big guy). But 2g is more than enough for most people.
>>41811871
Makes you relaxed and relieves social anxiety, also can help you sleep. Just never take it two days in a row and you won't get addicted to it.
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>>41811871
Lowers social inhibition and makes you more extroverted. Like alcohol without the nausea
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you guys need to switch to GHB
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>>41818798
No
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Reminder that phenibut is not a joke and you shouldn't take it everyday for more than two weeks or it will destroy your liver and kidneys.

Also phenibut is baby lyrica.
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>>41811847
Ive mistakenly taken 12 scoops of hcl with no tolerance twice.
I threw up for 4 hours straight.
Twice, with no motor skills
I know that feel bro
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>>41813682
Did you build tolerance to it? Or feel any withdrawals?
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>>41818456
>that being said
redditor spotted
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I've been adding it to my gf's coffee in larger and larger amounts and it's made her act a lot sweeter with me.

>inb4moralfags
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>>41819828
>>41811847
Tollerance builds quickly.
Withdrawals are shit, your body gets crazily dependent on the stuff fast. Take it 3 days in a row and on day 4 stop you will have: extreme trouble falling asleep, a general feeling of discomfort, get in a situation that will normally make you a bit nervous and today you'll already feel your heart beat increase and your face get red just thinking about it.

>overall: works great, but be extremely careful not to overdo it. The maximum for minimal sides is limit yourself to 1X per week. (This already gives me a bit increased anxiety for 2 days or so but very tolerable).

>don't expect miracles, it will make you feel more comfortable, more talkative (kinda like alcohol) except without the bad sides of it. It will dry you out (pee a lot first then later leave the body and draw a lot of fluid with it) so drink enough water

Dosage:
500mg, perfect for social situation won't be too sleepy
1000mg perfect for comfy sleep
1500mg deep sleep and pretty strong effects.
>2000mg don't recommend, it makes you extremely sleepy, drowsy, gives a big headache sometimes, no longer comfy relax feelings, instead kind of uneasy and fast heartbeat.
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>>41819929
Just make sure she doesn't get cirrhosis from your experiments.
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>>41812536
this
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>>41819929
I know this is b8 but on the off chance it's not you're literally satan. Or you just have no concept of how bad withdrawal is. Either way please die.
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Comparing it to booze doesn't even begin to touch it.

>tfw it's basically Felix Felicis from Harry Potter....
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>>41811847
Ive done like 5 grams before and i never had a problem
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>>41822142
Had a 20 day binge where I was getting up to 10 a day. Could only sleep an 1.5 at a time, and i'd wake up so high I would just start the day. After a few days of it I started hearing booming noises probably from a lack of sleep. THe next few days of withdrawal were death.
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>all these comments about how great it is

wtf I have like three jars that have been sitting in my drug cabinet for at least a year because I never use it.
I tried three doses, last one was pretty big, and i felt literally no effects....
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>>41811847
>7.5g
That's like trying to snort a pound of coke in one sitting.
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>>41822897
No. It's not.
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>>41811847
serves you right for buying objectively the worst-
most boring recreational drug in existence
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>>41818400
when will this meme die?
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>>41823577
It's my favorite drug. Hands down.
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>>41822870
Wake up, wait 1 hour, take 1 gram with coffee, wait another hour, take another 1 gram, wait 1 hour then eat
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>>41811847
I plan to use this to get drunk with less calories,
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>>41811847
I've taken doses like that mixed with alcohol and it barely has affected me, same with some friends of mine.
Of course I started off very small to make sure I could handle this stuff.

>>41811985
Taking ~2 grams of it maximum 2 times a week makes me feel really good.
Not entirely high good but it melts away anxiety and makes me feel like a normie. Without it I would have not been able to get through college or go to parties.
Never take 3 days in a way, dependency is only possible if you are moron.
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>>41824778
I'll add that while never taking it more than 3 times a week is good advice, and cycling it is important, that dosage varies GREATLY between people.
For example the low doses I hear from people in this thread are far lower than I've ever heard, literally never heard of someone getting a headache or being nauseous from having 3 grams of this stuff. I range myself from 2-4 grams when I take it, which is usually twice a month but is some cases twice a week depending on stress levels.
It takes 2 grams for me to feel relaxed (even without tolerance) and 4 grams for me to feel blissful. The latter of course being for recreation.
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>>41814877
this, everyone here is so dramatic
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>>41814937
Yeah man, you know how caffeine will make some people anxious? Can you guess the correlation side effect for an anti-anxiety med? I really feel like half of this board is under a huge fucking placebo affect from this drug, It is very similar to Gabapentin which is known to not work very well.
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>>41819746
More like baby Gabapentin which is the real baby Lyrica.
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>>41824891
If you think its placebo buy some and try it.
Or go on erowid and look up reports.
I once was at a party and a buddy took 2 grams of it late at night without my approval.
The next he said "I thought the shit you had was bunk. Then when I was mowing my lawn in the morning I felt like my day was going to be great. The sun felt great and my dick kept rubbing against my shorts and everything was just great"

This is a person who had no idea what he took.
Erowid is still anecdotal but if you actually researched Phenibut you would realize it is very real from a medical standpoint.
Thinking things are placebo when practically everyone is affected by and science says its real makes you look like an idiot.
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>>41824927
I bought some a few months ago and have taken it 3 times. It barely does anything.
>Also... "science says its real"
and I look like the idiot... It affects the same part of the brain gabapentin does, as someone who works at a treatment center with pts on 10's of anxiety meds, they can attest to gaba being the weakest and any of the anxiety meds will just make you drowsy if you take them a lot. A lot of anxiety meds given at higher doses are just used to go to sleep (Insmonia). These people who are claiming that they took a huge dose then felt "energetic and active" are the reason Im saying people are seeing this as a placebo. When the clinical side affects "science says its real" dont match pt reports it makes me think they dont know what the fuck they're talking about.
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>>41811871
I always like my sedatives made by the USSR!
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ma nigga
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>>41825116
hahahahahah
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>>41825076
Well you're right it is a weak anti anxiety med but it still has a noticeable affect on quite a few of people, even people who don't know what it is.
I recommend trying it yourself if you believe its placebo, take a good 3 grams of phenibut with caffeine and come back and say it had absolutely no affects.
It's cheap so just buy a sample amount from some site.

I can't say it makes me feel energetic itself but it allows me to not be anxious, which in turn allows me to actually feel excited about things for once. I haven't taken it in quite a while though, I just had a manic episode the past week and I after taking it for a couple days in a row I don't feel the depressive fallout I usually feel. Of course in this instance it could be placebo but I never would have thought it would have helped avoid my post-manic misery.
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>>41825076
Can you tell us stories about the patients on anxiety meds?

Which ones seemed to work better?

What seems to be the most successful technique or drug that helps with their anxiety?

Do you notice any other general trends or have pet theories about anxiety?
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>>41822870
I have the same with Kratom
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> literally taking an anti-depressant recreationally

What normal human being would think supplementing this is a good idea?
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>>41811847
>so just be careful with this stuff.
>i am a retard who doesnt researh before using something
>be careful guys!
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>>41811871
>>41811932
>>41811958
>>41811985
anything over 1g gives me a 'hangover' the next day and by that i mean im groggy as fuck
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To any anon considering starting with phenibut,
Fucking don't.
Withdrawal was awful and you build tolerance incredibly fast.
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Enjoy your physical withdrawals if you abuse this stuff. Take it once (do not break this rule) a week at less than 2 grams and you should be fine
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>>41826835
>normal
>implying
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>In this episode, /fit/ gets a non-drug scheduled by the DEA
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Haha you fucking retard op.

Phenibut is a wonderful drug. Got me through 2 years of my medical school.

You just gotta never dose above 1.5g and only ever do it twice a week with at least 2 rest days in between.

But it's legit the best thing for anxiety. Better than benzos or alcohol.
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>>41815734
This was incredibly informative. Thank you, anon.
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>>41811847
>builds a tolerance fast
>adverse side effects
>literal come downs that can last weeks

If I wanted to deal with that shit again I would be doing coke again at a much cheaper price than this shit.
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>>41828942
>at a much cheaper price than this shit.
if you get coke cheaper than phenibut i got news or you its not real coke.
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>>41811847

maybe keep yourself hydrated you fool!
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>>41811985

Check out Semax/Selank instead.

Bromantane is also great.
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>>41812584

yeah, i max out at 1.4g i take it as a sleep aid though.
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What are the downsides to this?
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Relying on a drug to be sociable

I have an entire jar of this shit thats been laying around, i dont even use it because it doesn't even do shit for me really.

The effect is so mild its not even worth the nasty ass fucking taste, withdraws, and money, i'm fairly certain most people can attain this improvement in sociability just by actively trying to socialize a little more
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>>41830625
It doesnt do anything, just a placebo effect
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>>41829633
Bromantane is now classified as a ped. If you take it you are no longer natty
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Those that don't feel anything at all should try the following method. 1. Take 3 grams in the morning on a completely empty stomach. 2 Then take some caffeine, since it increases the absorption rate of phenibut. 3. Don't eat anything for about 2 hours afterward If you still don't feel anything after this you're probably a non-responder to it. Be warned that 3 grams might make people aware that you took something.
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I take 1g Phenibut, 200mg Caffeine, and 200mg L-Theanine to be less irritable when sleep deprived. I have shifts that I wave to work 24+ hours, and phenibut puts me in a IDGAF mood.
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I took an entire 10g powder bag when I was 19. Felt good for a few hours then started being nauseous and passed out in bed for 5-6 hours. Felt ok afterwards, had a headache for the rest of the day though.

Am I superman or what?
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>>41832274
no you're a retard. kys
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>>41832450
Kek u mirin genetics brah?
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Use to be fun when I first started taking it, but then I started using it as a crutch. Stupid idea. Now it just makes me tired and groggy. Stupid russian scientists.
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>>41827902
This actually discouraged me from looking more into it.
I don't think the downsides weigh out the positives. It honestly sounds like weak coke, and I think a bit of social anxiety can be healthy.
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>>41811847
>i overdosed on phenibut last night
lightweight
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>>41833619
Works for me, I have panic attacks in a lot of different situations and it allows me to have exposure therapy without having migraines and developing an even worse aversion to things.
There are almost no sides if you don't take multiple days in a row, I know many people who have taken it and none have ever felt any negative sides whatsoever.

It should be respected and thought about but I would recommend getting a cheap sample amount from liftmode or something, 25 g or less.

There's no reason to ever have withdraws from something ever unless you are stupid, being scared of something that could be good for your life because some morons can't moderate is only going to make you a more anxious person.

t. Someone who has been on /fit/ for 4 years and can't walk into a gym because they start feeling faint. This summer I've finally been able to run in public and talk to women (not romantically but actually speak) because of phenibut.

Not trying to force anyone to do it but it has made my life so much better and I hate to see people scared because others are irresponsible, don't take it more than twice a week and spread out the days and I trust that nothing will happen negatively. Hope everything works out m8.
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>>41815395
>compares "learning game" to being in a fucking war
>need some phenibut to take the edge off talking to people
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>>41833701
Glad it helped you brah, sounds like it's doing you good honestly.
I don't really have issues, or at least nothing too out of the ordinary.
I can go red in the face if meeting new people and stuff like that, but isn't stuff like that pretty normal?
I mean, I have no issues walking into a gym, going up to a cashier etc.
However it could be awesome taking it before going to a park or other event where there would be socialising involved and feel calm.
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>a copypasta thread got this long
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>>41833782
Yeah man it's pretty nice. I don't think there is harm in trying it as a treat, it's cheap enough where you could just do it a few times a month or so for a good night out. I don't see it any different than someone taking a few shots of whiskey or smoking before going out to relax, though with phen you can still drive.

Most negative sideffects are unfounded unless abused, I wouldn't be surprised if some people did get nauseous though if they were to drink it, and headaches are a common enough side for practically anything.
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>>41833908
So how do you take it? Snort or drink it? Can you put it in your gums?
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>>41833935
I only take it once weekly, if at all, but I weight 2 g of it and put in a cup.
Afterwards I just pour a little diet soda in it (preferably something citrusy), just enough to dissolve.
Swig that shit and pour a little more soda in to get all the residue, tastes like shit. Within a couple hours I feel borderline normal and can talk.

>inb4 diet soda, it's hard as hell to drink with water and the citrus takes off the edge
You could put it in pill capsules but I drink it for the convenience.
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>>41833969
Cool shit man.
How do you feel on the days without it? Does it help your anxiety, and make you better in social situations?
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>>41833725
kys desu
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>>41834005
I get an "afterglow" the day afterwards, I'm a bit more relaxed. I am far better in social situations just due to me pushing more and more socially than I could ever do sober. Like teasing people, I naturally want to do it since I've been on 4chan for so many years but it comes hard for an autist irl.
While on phenibut this was not the case, I'm more likely to tease both men and women, the former being seen as comradery and the latter being flirtatious/friendly.
Naturally this made it far easier to resume while completely off of it and without an afterglow because I was used to these interactions and it was a social dynamic for us already.

Still have a long way to go though. I can finally talk to people without phenibut but I'm still not good with romantic intentions or intentions of any for that matter. Small talk has been easy finally but talking with an intent behind it is difficult as hell.
Some would say I used it as a crutch but I don't think that's bad at all, I couldn't walk so I built up leg strength by using it. I can do far more in social situations sober than I used to and I'm grateful for it.
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phenibut is king.

anyone know anything similar to it?
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2g is all you need you retarded OP
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>>41811847
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