The one thing everyone on /fit/ fails to realise is how important being lean is for having that "aesthetic" look.
You guys fight about routines constantly, but you don't get it, you just don't get it.
Someone who is on a horrible routine for 5 years who is 10% bodyfat is going to simply look 100x better than someone whose been lifting for 10 years on the most optimal routine in existence if they're 20% bodyfat.
You guys fail to understand how much of a difference it makes being 10% compared to 20% bodyfat. You guys fail to understand how this is even more of an important issue for naturals, because enhance guys can carry the higher bodyfat percentages better than naturals. A natural at 20%+ bodyfat looks DYEL mode, but looks fucking amazing at 10% bodyfat.
You guys need to just shut the fuck up and lean down. If you're natty there's literally no difference with a bro-split, ppl, or full body in terms of aesthetics. A natty who cuts down to 10% bodyfat will look exactly the same regardless of what routine he does.
>>41791160
I think everyone gets this it's just really fucking hard to do
>>41791168
this
i look dyel no matter what so im just going to lean out to dickskin levels and continue lean bulking forever
>>41791168
>>41791168
They obviously don't. Or there wouldn't be constant debates about what routine they should be doing.
I've been lifting for 6 years, and I've done every fucking mainstream routine there is. Brosplit, PPL, Upper/Lower, Full Body. I can tell you now every time I've leaned down to 10% bodyfat I've looked equally aesthetic on every single one of those routines at 10%bodyfat.
Bro-split = My legs get smaller, everything else stays alright.
PPL = My legs get bigger than bro-split, but arms get a bit smaller.
Upper/Lower = Arms get a bit smaller, legs get bigger
Full body = Everything is at its biggest.
>>41791160
if you were handsome and tall you could slay at 20% body fat if lifting for years