/fraud/

>>41775407
jb jerry gf

>>41775407
In response to the last thread: epigenetics and gene expression regarding surpassing environmental thresholds.

Do peptides fall under source talk? They're gray area

Anyone got some before and after shots of their natty to gear?

>>41775433
nice buzzwords man u must be real smart

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>>41775444

>>41775407
I miss ONE thread and ESTP comes back. Seems like I'm bad luck huh

>>41775444
None I could post in a sound mind. I haven't looked at my natty pics out of shame in like 5 years myself.

plan on running
week 1: 500mg test +600mg deca 50mg dbol
week 2:
week 3:
week 5:
week 6:basically just ^ to week 6
week 7:500 mg test + 600mg deca
week 8:
week 9:
week10:^
what pct do you suggest? also is arimidex good as on cycle aromatase inhibitor?

>>41775443
just don't try it. there are tons of places for sources on the internet, don't risk a ban on here.

>>41775468
Do you look decent now after 5 years of drug use?

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>>41775407
Needles came in a few days ago. I finally have all the stuff I need to start my first cycle. Unfortunately ENT bro told me I should wait at least a week after my septum surgery to start. So I guess I'll be patient and continue blogging and shitposting until then.

How are you guys doing today?

>>41775457
smarter than a lot of people here to realize not every gene is expressed all the time and certain conditions need to be met in order to do so.

>>41775554
lol

>>41775485
this cycle can and will fuck your shit up

you know absolutely nothing and should read the link in the OP before posting here

>>41775532
nobody looks decent here, not even masT
we are all fat balding beta males. Sad

>>41775550
>septum surgery
the fuck'd you do?

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>>41775444
150mg test cyp weekly trt protocol.

left was very first day i started lifting, right was a month ago. 1 year in total.

>>41775550
good. except everyone just bullied an oldfag outta fraud for no reason.

>>41775568
>no reason

she killed her child

>>41775564
I've had a fucked up nose ever since I was a kid, dunno when or why it happened but it's affected my breathing for most of my life. Finally got an adult job with benefits and decided to do something about it.
>>41775568
who
>>41775581
wat

>>41775568
they do that consistently all the time. mast, chem, bimbo. individuals here are just hateful.

>>41775568
>for no reason.
she said very stupid things

>>41775592
She had a miscarriage due to AAS use

Went to my first wedding as an adult over to the weekend, holy shit are those a lot more fun when you can drink at them. My "dick down the bridesmaids" plan took an unexpected turn, however: I ended up hooking up with a dude in the basement laundry room of the after-party house. Never done that before, I can now cross "sucking a dick" off my bucket list. Also have a whole new found respect for girls, making out with somebody with stubble is no goddamn joke. Also been hanging out with this Brazilian girl, holy shit is it good to hang out with a chick who's just as loud as I am.

Mix it up this summer, boys. Try some new shit, you never know what you'll find

>>41775609
that's p gay dude

did you like it

>>41775568
>ESTP
>oldfag
>no reason
mmmmmhm ok bud

>>41775609
wtf

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>>41775443
Greetings Internet neighbor. I hear you want some grey market drugs...

Asked in another thread, but didn't get a response. How long do you guys normally end up cruising between blasts?

>>41775646
a week or two

month tops

>>41775609
trip on crusader

>>41775652
Really? Doesn't it take longer for cholesterol, RBC, etc. to normalize?

>>41775655
everything you should have kept in control with diet and blood donations.

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>>41775638
wheres my bpc one fiddy seven

WHERES MY TEE BEE FIVE HUNNAD

>>41775668
lol run tren and try that

>>41775655
none of that matters if you're not an old fat fuck

>>41775653
its 7.30am here and he's a neet gay cunt, so doubt he's awake mate

>>41775646
>>41775655
the general rule of thumb is time off = time on

but it's just to be safe, shorter is usually fine. you would generally want to actually get bloods to see when you can blast again, it's just that most people don't get bloods for some reason.

>>41775679
haha it was a joke lol

wheres that one website that you can put in some numbers into it on the sterons and you get a sweet looking graph of blood levels

>>41775692
steroidcalc

>>41775609
HA
guaYYYYYY

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>>41775671
>wheres my bpc one fiddy seven
>WHERES MY TEE BEE FIVE HUNNAD
LOL
Actually I just blew a bunch of BTC on both. Got a customer with a jacked knee and another with a jacked shoulder.
You want some?

>>41775638
whats your eBay i asked a while ago and nobody would tell me

>>41775716
not using coinbase i presume? has been dead all evening.

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>>41775719
>whats your eBay
Advancedbodyscience2000
>>41775725
>not using coinbase
Not a fan of coinbase. I use localbitcoins or just what people pay me with. I also have a ZEC mine that generates a little over $10/day. I usually convert the coins into BTC.

>>41775752
had shitty experience with coinbase?

it just seems too easy not to use imo.

>>41775716
>those thighs
>those puffy lips

Christ I need that.

>left itchy nipple reporting for duty

>>41775607
Holy shit, srs? Why would you continue doing it if you're preggo? Not tryina be mean but come on man.

Does anyone else pin tren a only six days and off on Sundays?

>>41775831
And on the sabbath day, the lord sayeth unto Zyzz "Though shalt not pin tren on this holy day, lest you should face my wrath." But Zyzz proceeded against the Lord's wishes. And thus, he was smited.

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>>41775776
>had shitty experience with coinbase?
Nah no bad experiences. The issue is they report to the IRS. I want to hide income and pay as little taxes as possible. I love the United States but fuck off if you think I'm going to fund abortions and other bullshit.
>>41775789
Breh...

I am seeing a bit of talk about ESTP? Looks like you guys got to her last thread.

>>41775901
It was a little much but t to be fair that sort of thing happens to all tripfags at some point in time.

>>41775884
That's why I'm asking. My coach said it 'went better in a natural anabolic rhythm if you allow body to rest on the Sundays' but he's also pretty into Jesus so I thought I'd ask somewhere

So does it work? You've heard of this protocol?

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>>41775918
I am by no means an ESTP fan but I try to be nice to everyone and she always had good stories.
Oh well.
You guys are probably right for not being degenerates.

>>41775938
>but he's also pretty into Jesus
KEK

How much tren are you using? I don't have an answer to your question m(tfw shitposting in /fraud/ even though I'm still natty), I'm just curious.

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>>41776000
>tfw shitposting in /fraud/ even though I'm still poor
Pic related...

>>41776019

I don't really get these tshirts. What's the point?

>>41776000
you're not cunt you liar

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>>41776033
>I don't really get these tshirts.
It's funny and maybe slightly inspiring?
>What's the point?
The point is so that faggot can make money and also to troll people irl.
You could easily reproduce the shirt for 1/4 the price and have just as much fun.

>>41776069

Oh, I see. I didn't realize people found it funny.

>>41776096
dw i didn't either, i thought the point was to be deliberately inflammatory so that people keep talking about you and you can keep making money

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>>41776096
>Oh, I see. I didn't realize people found it funny.
I always thought of it as a joke to make fun of stupid people. "Stop being poor" well that's actually easy to do. Just work hard and never give up.
I'm not saying it's easy to be wealthy but IT IS easy to have enough money to get by.
Only fools are poorfags

my gf wants to get breast reduction surgery because they hurt her back

what should I do

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>>41776145
tell her the majority of women who get the operation regret it

make up some statistic about infections and complications

if she's deadset on it you're fucked

TFW GF HAS A CUPS

>>41776145
Put anavar in her cereal and cause a misscariage

See what happens to /fraud/ when I'm gone?

>>41776145
Would be good. Breast reduction would not only make her happy but they'd also make her tits more perky.

>>41776174
what is the correlation you illiterate retard

>>41776145
Make her deadlift and farmer walk so she can better support her juggs.

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>>41776177
>Would be good. Breast reduction would not only make her happy but they'd also make her tits more perky.
>not liking cowtits

fuck off

Tell me what went down with this chick and her miscarriage

>>41776195
Shape>Size

I fucking hate floppy giant pancake tits.

That reminds me of exgf
>perfect perky tits
>nipples sensitive enough to make her orgasm by licking them the right way
Kind of sucks how sensitive her nipples are though. Can't do any sort of nursing because they become sore after a few minutes.

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>>41776205
Go read the thread cunt.

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>>41776206
>nipples sensitive enough to make her orgasm by licking them the right way

Damn I bet you even fell for that too..

>>41776069
Lol I am I fucking know this chick. She's friends with exgf

>>41776243
prepare for the dox

>>41776243
"this chick" is jayde cinelli and no she's not

>>41776254
Good luck to them.

>>41776258
Jaydeyfit on Instagram. I know dumbass. I've met her a few times. Nice girl.

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>>41776243
I don't know her at all. Just some IG girl who I like a lot.

>>41776272
stop larping

>>41776275
MMM K.

>>41776039
Didnt know there was another trip called Cunt until a few days ago. its safe to say I'm just some faggot and not him tho.
>>41776069
I'm not a huge Milo fan but his shenanigans make me laugh sometimes so I can forgive him for being such a massive faggot.
>>41776145
Heresy.

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>>41776283
>I'm not a huge Milo fan but his shenanigans make me laugh sometimes so I can forgive him for being such a massive faggot.
Milo is a massive faggot and ultimately a detriment to the "right"
However, there is no such thing as bad press and making the left realize that the right is actually tolerant of everyone is a good thing.
Milo is largely useless but he attracts attention to capitalism which is huge.
Most people don't understand the capitalist vs socialist debate but people like Milo are a step towards that.

>>41776337
Are you attacking Milo?
Anti semantic shitlord

>>41776431
Jerry tell me about your experiences with bpc157

Please

>>41776431
sup

hows anzuza or whatever her nameis

>>41776446
Never used it, just tb500
I think it helped

>>41776458
My wife is doing fantastic, thanks
I recently bough silicone implants for tge pillows

How are you

>>41776468
>I recently bough silicone implants for tge pillows

Just get a real doll already.

>>41776500
Im not some weirdo

>>41776468
fuck sake jerrber download tinder or something

im pretty bored senpai, for some reason i come home to see my family at the weekend which i regret everytiem

>>41776468
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16583442

>"Thereby, we focus on Achilles tendon-to-bone healing: tendon to bone could not be healed spontaneously, but it was recovered by this peptide."

Seems like it's magic

Going shopping with exgf today. Should be fun.

>>41776560
you're so cucked you've been demoted to gay best friend status nice job

>>41776560
Good luck my dude. Have to pin tonight afraid to do quads because of last weeks incident. Possibly RIP me tonight.

>>41776538
I keep downloading tinder, getting matches, tgen deleting it

I feel that, I used to do that. Then Id just play old videogames or something. But free food

>>41776554
It seems decent
Tb500 seemed safer to me

>>41776560
Smh

>>41775568
You roided for that body after a year of lifting? Surely you could have managed those results clean?

>>41776654
he didnt roid he took trt natty dose

>>41776654
>150mg test cyp per week

That's just replacing natural testosterone levels

>>41776654
>TRT
>300 natty test
>doctor prescribed

did i just get baited? im actually furious how retarded someone can be.

>>41775568
>that chest acne
>on trt dose
lol my condolences

>>41776645
Safer how?

>>41776668
Man I wish I got actual trt
Oh well this ended up ok
Im bald, fat, and insane but it ended up ok

>>41776703
Less cancer bro science lol

>>41776668
What are your test levels on 150mg/week?

>>41776716
anything between 1000 and 1300.

lowest bloodwork i've got was 1049 and im blaming stress/drinking on that one.

>>41776677
had chest acne before TRT too. No idea why.

>>41776599
Cunt

Test is kicking in at 4 weeks

Legs,arm hair is getting /thccc/

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newcomer, only wanted to take some oral steroids while cutting, a few questions


DBOL side affects?

is a dbol & anavar stack worth it while cutting?

do i need pct after dbol?

>>41776936
reead the op, retard

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>>41776936
read the fucking op

goddamned.

>>41776964
>>41776961

thanks x

Squeezed my nips this morning to check for lactation. Very, very tiny amount of clear liquid.

Good thing the caber arrived. Although I've been slack on my AI.

>>41776936
FUCKING STOP

>>41776989
crusader the cuck, you're telling me to stop while you're producing breast milk

>crusader is lactating

His transformation into a sissy is complete. Next stop is prepping the bulls for his gf.

>>41777098
*ex gf (he will never be with her again) and crush

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ALRIGHT FITFAGS I'M TIRED OF BEING SKINNYFAT AFTER 2 YEARS OF FUCKING LIFTING AND CHICKEN RICE AND BROCCOLI

I'm just going to blast and cruise. Fuck it. How does 250mg/week for 10 weeks, then 125mg/week after sound? Using 2.5mg Letrozole/week as an AI (might taper down to 1.25mg during cruise)

>>41777217
500mg minimum

letro is the harshest AI take aromasin

>>41777217
everything about this is FUCKING stupid

read the op

>>41777217
250mg/week is pussy shit, and letro is big boy shit.

10 weeks is even more pussy shit.

>>41777229
>>41777233
>>41777245
It's only my first cycle I don't wanna go crazy

Also I grossly overestimated the Letro doses and accidentally put per week. What I meant to say was
>.625mg letro/day
DESU I'll probably end up doing what I said and then see how I feel, can always do a second blast in 6 months time and up the dosage.

As a dude with low test levels confirmed by doctors, but not low enough to warrant prescription TRT, any test dose seems good in my eyes

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> my face when I lowered my blood pressure a ton in just two weeks of daily cardio
Quality of life is so much better

>>41777300
500mg isn't a crazy dose it's the standard beginner cycle

>>41777217
Not enough for bulking unless you are going to stack another steroid with it. Even LGD will be good with that (non liver toxic, you can run whole cycle, even combined with oral steroids).

Use aromasin, I:ve used ugl asin with no problems, and raw powder asin no problems.

Dont take the ai unless you start getting estrogen issues, or nipple sensitivity, then Id use 6 to 12.5mg every day until it goes away then change the dose to E2D or E3D and adjust as needed.

>>41777300
just fucking cruise on 125mg/week and then save up for a proper blast because 250mg is fucking pitiful.

>>41777312
>>41777319
>>41777340

Alright alright

So if I do 500mg test/week injecting Sunday and Wednesday (250mg each time) for 10 weeks, then 125mg cruise until I feel like blasting again. Letro is my AI because, believe it or not, it's the easiest available to me.

Depending on how this blast goes I'll try to add some other mass building steroid next blast, but for now I just want to see what happens on test alone.

Just did babby's first pin. VG, smooth as butter. Can't tell anyone irl yet because I'm dyel as fuark due to a few years of inactivity (broken back), so I gotta tell someone. Ty frauds for ushering me over to the dark side

>>41777024
>>41777098
>>41777136
Stop cyberbullying me

Fucking hell. These tabs are tiny and oval shaped. I can't possibly cut them into 1/4.

>>41777392
whats the average worth of a vial of test in american dollars?

gonna ask a shady friend i know and compare if it's worth it to avoid the hassle of buying online

>>41777365
what part of 10 weeks is cancer did you not understand?
literally pissing away money

>>41777406
25-35 dollars for 10ml @ 250mg/ml

>>41777406
I only work in dollary doos. Average price in Australia is about $95. Fucking Jewish pricing.

Decided to just take 0.5mg because cbf cutting them into quarters. Ventricle failure here I come.

>>41777414
10 weeks is a normal blast cycle though, especially for first timers.

8-12 weeks. My cruise will probably be the same, so that'll be 6 months total before my next blast.

Alternatively, I guess I could just get the AIs and keep them on hand, but just do 125mg/week and see what happens. My test levels are low anyway so 125mg might be enough to see a difference tbqh

Then I can re-assess

whats a good dosage of hcg to keep em going constantly while on a cruise?
or is there only a need to do that every once in awhile?

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>>41777452
>10 weeks is a normal blast cycle though, especially for first timers.
you mean for retards who want to fuck with their hpta for shit gains

read the fucking op

>>41777554
u got feisty why

>>41777444
Calm down hot head

Anyone ever use a vial of test they know to be old af? Like years old. Reports on shelf life are kinda spotty

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lolis are made for ___

>>41777710
double penetration

>>41777710
I lift so I can be the giant in that image and get a fertile little 13 year old cutie of my own.

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I don't think I love my gf of 2 years anymore but this is my first relationship and I don't know how people end things.

>>41777789
leave a steaming shit on her bed, if all goes well she will just ghost you so you dont have to talk about breaking up or have an argument or and you can avoid any awkward human contact/having to listen to her about her feels and how you wasted 2 years of her life

>>41777789
we should break up I don't feel the same way

>gf is wearing a top with her mid-riff showing
>HNNNNNNNGGGGG I WANT TO IMPREGNATE HER

>>41778070
rape

>>41778070
have you never seen a crop top

anyone have insurance problems after being on TRT for a while? do they give you that pre existing bs when getting new insurance?

>>41778080
Yes. But its winter here so most girls are covered.

>>41778092
Shouldn't you be working or at school right now?

>>41778070
Is this the difference that caber makes?

>>41778070
Please provide more blog updates on a more often basis for this trainwreck of a "shopping trip"

>>41778070
meanwhile you're betatexting on 4chan instead of making moves

What's the cutoff point for you guys with lipids? Meaning, at what point do you feel that the LDL is too high, the HDL is too low, or the ratio is too high to proceed with a blast?

>>41778277
within range.

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I just got my lifetime natty test results back and what the flying fuck.

> Total Test: 592 ng/dl
> e2: 51 pg/ml

also
> bilirubin, total: 1.22 mg/dl
> hematocrit: 47.7

Wow, and this is after a year of hurr durr naturally raise testosterone levels
> lower cortisone --> relax, lower stress, sleep better, don't workout too much / long
> lower shbg --> 9mg boron supplement daily, 100g celery
> lower aromatase activity --> supplement zinc, supplement magnesium, eat mushrooms
> lower estrogen --> lower body fat, fap less, eat 100g beets daily, avoid processed shit food, plastic bpa containers / hygiene products

> eat saturated fat red meat
> take vitamin D supplement
> more calories, more carbs
> 30% calories from healthy fats
> 8 hours or more of consistent sleep

I did the math and I spend 98 dollars a month on these supplements. Yes, this has helped me feel a lot better, but alll this time, all this effort for these lousy numbers is pathetic.

Why is my estrogen so high!? And the bilirubin? Seriously?

>>41778406
lol actual testosterone costs less than $100 a month cuck

>>41778406
Congrats on the gilberts syndrome now you don't have to worry about heart disease at least

>>41778406
what were your initial levels?

>>41778406
>>41778412

>less than $100 a month

By a lot, even., A vial with 2.5g costs $30, and it should last... what, four months? Plus syringes and needles, which should run about $20 for that time period.

Even if you buy AI as a precaution, you'll just break even lel.

>>41775609
Nice.
Was he hot?

>>41778412
and
>>41778464

Yeah I know that already, I'm looking around and seeing test e going for 30 a vial and that lasts a while too. Add in ai and needles, holy shit, less than all these supplements and 6x the results ( assuming ~ 3,000 total test levels ) . Fuck it, I'm ditching my lifetime natty card, it has no value, it's not a badge of honor.


>>41778449
how do you know it's harmless 'ol gilberts and not something else? because the ast / alt levels were well within range? Hematocrit levels were pretty high though.


>>41778463
>what were your initial levels?

I don't know exact levels, didn't get tested back then, but I do know they must've been very very low because I was an absolute mess back then:
> debilitating depression
> no confidence
> felt like shit
> slept horrible
> loser beta attitude
> complained about my problems but didn't nothing about it
> Gym often but didn't look like I lift

and now each one of those is the exact opposite, the difference of me now vs back then is literally night and day. If this is how I am now at 592, then I must've been < 100 back then, those were not good times.

>>41778584
>gym often but didn't look like I lift
we all have that problem here

>>41778584
>he thinks natty remedies increased his natty test by 500%

Serious question, can I just go to the doctor and ask to be put on TRT and get my stuff legally?

I'm too scared to approach the big guys at the gym and too scared to get scammed online again. I tried some place online and lost $300.

>>41778792
>I tried some place online and lost $300.

Probably because you're a fucking retard. There are legit sources available to you on le reddit.

>>41778110
>implying I didn't coincide my work holiday with exgfs uni holidays to maximise time together
Yeah as if I was that beta. Cmon.

>>41778215
Walked around together for three hours. Had fun, bought some shit. We were happy. I'm happy. I want to fucking pound the life out of her but what are you gonna do?

>>41778406
lower shbg lowers your total test because it raises your free test

>>41778464
>>41778464
>Vial lasting 4 months
wut.

>>41778792
Dude reddit is so easy. Go there, have BTC, email a trusted verified vendor, open your mailbox in 3 days. Boom

>>41779040
I don't know whether I want you to get back together so the whinging can stop or I want her to destroy your soul because it's what you deserve.

>>41779334
The whinging won't stop no matter what.

>>41779345
Crusader how can you post during every conceivable time zone

Ur Australian aint u

>>41779376
commitment to the shitposting cause

>>41779376
Shitposting is in my DNA.

anyone here ever worked as a bouncer? got any tips for getting hired without experience?

This sounds dumb as fuck

are there any steroids that are legal in the US, that wouldn't require a prescription?

>>41775609
no shit i can dig it

"summer without rules"
I had one -- slept with a crazy chick, dated a black guy, drank a ton, did some drugs, got a piercing, dyed my hair. Was a fun summer

>>41779469
Nothing that would work.

Guys... I am thinking of taking Nolvadex for my Gyno. Anyone have any experience of this or thoughts?

>>41779871

If you've already developed breast tissue nolvadex will do fuck all

Checking my tracking 3x a day. Just wanna start my blast :(

first time getting an egg under my skin in my ass after pinning

what do I do? just leave it?

>>41779941
Heat pack and massage. Watch out for signs of infection i.e. redness, itchyness

>>41779953
it's got some redness but no itchy

kinda warm to the touch too

>>41779964
Post a pic

>>41779871
Letro is your only hope. Read up the protocol, the rebound is no joke.

I have destroyed my gyno with protocol, which was a size of a nickel.

>>41779964
You got an infection faggot. Get on the antibiotics asap, before they have to amputate your limbs

>>41777217
Start with 250mg/week for 4 weeks to see how you react. Then up to 500 for remaining 8 weeks. And cruise on 175-200mg.

Use aromasin instead of letro.

>>41777444
Smash it into powder and split tht up into 4 doses

>>41777217
If you aren't low test then you have either the most terrible genetics ever or doing something wrong. If you can't grown natty you won't on steroids.

>>41780816
Would it be possible to get rid of puberty gyno?.

I have retarded puffy nipples that poke tru tshirts and some sweaters. Was going to get surgery this summer for it.

>>41780973
No puffy nipples will stay remain forever. Gyno and puffy nipples are something way different.

gyno = fucking hard lump under your nipple

try to get as low bodyfat as you can to redecue puffy nipples

b6 for prolactin control? ya or na?

>>41781345
I love that fucking picture.

>>41781345
is this jailbait?

>>41781345
>Literally the only trip that provides useful information besides bullshit anecdotal """evidence""".
lol

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So I am running test (500/wk ent) and am about to add in epo for a race in a couple weeks. I don't plan on dying in my sleep so i was going to be conservative with it, maybe only 500ui 3x a week? Bodyweight is 97kg by the way.

>>41778412
Way less than that. I can pick up $30 test ebottles from a sauce boss (verified with bloods). Pick up 3 of them from 90 bucks. One vial lasts 12.5 weeks assuming 200mg/week TRT dose. 3x12.5 = 37.5 weeks for $90 or aprox $10 a month. Bloods cost $60 every few months and AI and PCT is usually 60 bucks.

Very cheap and makes your life 10x better. You can have cycles where you blast or add other compounds then just cruise into your next cycle without losing any gains. Lifetime TRT will become a lot more popular in 10-15 years. Everyone is already roiding.

what kinda bottle should I be buying to hold my oral suspensions?

>>41779941
How long has it been?

Have you used this gear before?

How red is it?

I had an infection scare that was just an allergic reaction. Swelling, warm, redness (pinkish not really red). Slowly went away over a week, subsequent pins didn't have as much of an issue.

Is taking a small amount of test to balance natural levels even worth?

>>41782126
>balance natural levels

balance what? taking even the smallest amount will shut you down as per production.

>>41782140
I mean, if I have low test, taking a small amount of it will bring it back to normal levels, right?
Im not planning on taking roids, im just curious

>>41782227
yes but then you'll have to keep on taking it.

idk why i'm spoonfeeding you you have apparently no idea how this works.

>>41782227
Testosterone is a steroid. And no it doesnt work that way.

>>41782254
So after you cycle with it, your body will produce less test itself, but i thought the production rate would go back to normal after a while.
Thanks for the spoonfeeding by the way

>>41782289
>but i thought the production rate would go back to normal after a while.

yeah well thats the big if bud. some people recover fine without medication, some dont at all and some produce even more test afterwards.

if you're low test go to the doctor and get yourself testosterone prescribed or self-medicate. dont try to justify one time road usage because "im low natty anywaaaay"

>>41782289
Yes that is true. But your 'normal' production is low.

Is 100mg/ed a good dose for anavar? Anyone got some solid results from it? Doing it with a 300mg prop base for a cut.

>>41782289
While administering exogenous androgens, endogenous production stalls.

Some report, however, very little impact on blood levels with very low doses of orals. There's a guy on r/steroids who posted his bloodwork while he was on very low dose (10mg I think of each) anavar and primo, and it was within 10% of his normal levels. Something to look in to if you're interested in a "sense of well-being" as opposed to getting big and jacked as fuck.

What do you guys do with your used syringes?
Do you like,throw'em in your regular trash or ?
Don't want some waste worker to cut themselves with my AIDS-infected needles famalams

>>41782315
Thanks a lot, i got it.
>>41782326
Thank you aswell

>>41782341
Ye, the main goal would be feeling a bit more energic and better overall. not getting HUGE

>>41782330
bimbs swears by it altough he said he splits because of the half-life.

>>41782363
Yeah was thinking of 50mg when i wake up and 50 before gym.

>>41782377
dont forget your creatine.

>>41782361
>>41782341
Here is the relevant post

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/5l8bsn/compound_experience_saturday_anavar_oxandrolone/dbv5j39/

>>41782402
Does creatine go well with var? I heard caffeine is good.

>>41782414
it has some synergy with it.

some dude posted a study a few threads ago.

>>41782363
Isnt var expensive af at 100mg/day?

>>41782441
yup

100x10mg is already 40 euro's.

>>41782425
I'll look it up, cheers

>>41782448
Id rather run primo 600/week then

m8s is it worth it to fall for the organic+free range jew?

UK

>"budget" eggs - roughly 2 us dollars per KG
>organic free range eggs - roughly 3 dollars per KG

>>41782343
http://www.safeneedledisposal.org/

Good on you for wanting to be responsible

>>41782514
Probably better to for your lipids. I know it makes a huge difference in omega 3/6 ratio in beef. Not sure on eggs.

>>41782448
>>41782441
>not buying the raw
kek

>>41782591
i would be fucking homebrewing if it wasnt for my parents.

you know how easy that shit is.

>>41782610
you barely need shit for orals, you can basic bitch it and shake it up in some propylene glycol in a jar as suspension, save one of your syringes for oral dosing

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Bro's just got my bloods back, did a simple testosteron test but I dont know what to make of the results. M/25/train 5-6 times a week.

>>41782654
congrats u have average to slightly above average test levels.

Trying ripblend for first time and it left a solid lump to my quad. Not red or painful, just a lump. Freaked me out. Today, I pinned my delt and I can instantly feel it becoming... lumpy?

And the bottle is dark orange. Is it bunk?

>>41782654
Average for 21 year old. Very microscopically above average of 25. Gratz! You're too young to fuck up your endo system with test, yet.

>>41782654
Pretty good levels. Should be good to go, if you have any issues you can't blame your test levels.

Is there a way to tell the difference between test prop and cyp? guy I work with ordered some for a few different ppl and I got two vials of test and two of cyp but the cyp label is all tore off which makes me assume he just got more prop sense its cheaper so he could pocket more money.

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>>41776989
how do u get to the point where youre lactating without noticing something is wrong earlier? like, sexdrive, problem cumming or getting hard, JUST ANYTHING

I'm about to fight the next fucker that comes up and pinches my nipples through my shirt I swear to fucking god /fraud/

What kind of shit sets you guys off?

>>41783110
People with no spatial awareness. Don't fucking do Shoulder flies directly in front of the dumbell rack. Other people use those weights too. Dont do chest flies on the bench directly next to mine if there's more open five feet away either, I swear to god if your wobbly ass flies hit me while I do my shit I'm gonna smash your face with the dbs.

Not just the gym either. Motherfuckers walk in a row of.five people down the sidewalk, niggers especially. Get the fuck out of my way. Don't leave your cart in the middle.of a narrow aisle.RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME TO GO LOOK AT TOMATOES. I will dump your shit on the fucking floor.

Ok but really I don't do anything I just make smartass comments and give them the stinkeye.

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>>41783110
>I'm about to fight the next fucker that comes up and pinches my nipples through my shirt I swear to fucking god /fraud/

>Says this like people randomly pinching your nipples is a normal thing that people do to other people in regular situations

Am I taking crazy pills or something, what the hell

>>41775609
Didn't you tell that story at /r/Steroid but it was a tranny? I'm the guy that told you that your parents must be proud of you

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>>41783242
>people with no spatial awareness
Holy shit this so fucking much.

I was doing seated lat raises, and I set my phone down on the bench and went to go get another set of dumbbells. I come back, and there's this fucking DYEL asain kid standing on my god damn bench.

Just standing there, bending over, holding a 20lb bar. Fucking stretching.

I walk over and pick up my phone. The kid just looks up at me, stares, hops off the bench and walks away without saying a fucking word. Just goes and does handstands for like 30 more minutes then leaves.

I know how you feel bro. Shit drives me up the fucking wall

>>41783349
Military. People do dumb shit like that often. I'm already insecure about my nips as it is, shit's fucking dumb

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>>41783435
>Mfw I imagine a bunch of army men running around a battlefield pinching the enemies nipples for no reason

I might have autism

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GUYS

IS IT TRUE ALCOHOL GOT BANNED IN PANAMA CITY BEACH FOR SPRING BREAK?

WTF IS THIS SHIT THANKS TO 2 UGLY NIGGERS WHO CANT EVEN GET LAID ON SPRING BREAK MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE.

TRIGGERED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

where dafuq do i go now. daytona beach is still goocy but i need an alternative for panama city beach.

CALLING ALL MURICANS CHADS FOR AID

is it worth paying little extra for pharma grade test E?

>>41783653

if you can spare the money, then yes

what's the smallest amount of weight you can expect a consumer grade kitchen scale to be able to measure properly? 1g?

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>>41783653
in my opinion no.

the biggest difference between pharma and UGL is that pharma will be very accurately dosed and will have 0 pip.

if that matters to you and the price is not that big of a difference i guess go ahead.

>>41783594
you think anyone cares about it, a true chad would have smuggled vodka in like this

>>41783682
>driving around spring break with a shitty scooter

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How does one achieve pic related? Just curious.

>>41783677
fuck it is 1g

well this oral suspension shit is a lot harder than expected. my bottles are 100ml. at 12.5mg/ml asin it means I need 1.25g per bottle. I can't measure that accurately.

guess I have to make a big ass 800ml batch and somehow find out how to storage this shit

>>41783711
Roids

>>41783711

dat dere celltech

>>41783727
get a better scale

>>41783711
Consistently training hard and a goodnight diet. Roids help too but don't listen to any of these guys who think they can take roids, eat cheeseburgers and half ass it in the gym. They look like shit and not one of them will post a pic to prove you wrong.

For bodybuilding it goes
1. Diet
2. Training
3. Roids
You can't just do roids and look good. Genetics aside

>>41783828
Goodnight diet? Wtf fucking phoneposting I swear

>>41783776
I'm not paying 600 dollars for a scale

if I did I'd just cap the damn things

>>41783859
$600 lmao. You do know drug dealers don't weigh their drugs with kitchen scales or $600 solar scales right? I take it you've never bought weed from someone before

>>41783881
FUCKING SOLAR SCALES
I really need to check before posting. I have no idea how it sneaks in entire words I don't even begin to type

>>41783881
who ever sells less than a gram of weed?

>>41783963
jesus christ do you not know how scales work?
if a scale only read out to the nearest 1g there could be 0.5-1.4g of shit on the scale and it will still show 1g

>>41783693
it may be shitty but its the only thing i got left atm since no baiku

besides im gonna pimp it out soon with 30 eu speakers and amplifier.

>>41783963
My friend did when I was 14. Not the point though. You can find a scale that'll at least do tenths of grams online or even at a "tobacco" shop for like $40 or less

>>41783828
>diet over training

i fucking hate this meme so much, pushed by the "fitness industry" so they can sell their bullshit

>>41775462
holy shit I bet that guy is rolling in pussy.

Alright boyos
I think I got everything ready for babby's first 16week 500mg/week cycle :

4 x Test E @250mg
1 x Alcohol swabs (100pack)
30 x 3cc/25gauge/1cm syringe-needle
2 x Arimidex @0.5mg
1 x Clomid @50mg
1 x Nolvadex @40mg

Everything in total cost me 430 leaf dollars.
Am I missing anything?
Thanks again to Grieve for guide on buying needles syringes. The pharmacy phaggot asked what are the syringes for and I told him >B12 shots. kek

>>41784098
some 18-22g needles to draw with but for the rest you're set.

also damn leaf dollars in the shitter right now.

my test mast blast im planning will cost me only 300 max.

>>41784079
Both important but I see more improvement than when I clean up my diet versus training a extra day, adding extra cardio, etc. Def not saying anyone needs the fitness indsutries protein bars, shakes and all that bullshit. Chicken, rice, sweet potato, veggies and all that are much cheaper and better for you

>>41784115
Dang, you're right, guess I gotta go and see that pharmacy phaggot again for needles

>>41784146
i mean you can draw with 25g it just takes like literally 5 minutes.

i draw with 22g and i get 1ml if i want to in like 15 seconds.

>>41784079
It's true though. Diet is way more important than training.

am 24yo male, 75kg/165lbs @ 5'10"/178cm.
2 years ago had test of 384 and TSH of 5.5.
now i've got a test of 314 and TSH of 6.9.

if i got my thyroid fixed, how much could i expect my test to rise?

>>41784193
about three fiddy

just fuckin cruise 4 lyfe mah nigga i had test of 320 and got trt.

>>41783594
You can still drink everywhere, just not if you're standing on the sand, aka move onto the pavement or in one of the tiki bar shits or something.

LIFTING is what triggers muscle growth. LIFTING is what makes your body build muscle in the first place.

if you lift like shit, you will look like shit, no matter what you eat, because there is NOTHING to TRIGGER muscle growth IN THE FIRST place

If you lift hard af, but your diet is not the best, YOU WILLL STILL LOOK GOOD, just not as good as you COULD HAVE.

You see it ON DYELS everytime. "xDD lifting is 90% food bro :DDDDD" and they LOOK LIKE SHIT.

Dont even try to argue with me, because you guys have everything on point anyways, wether its lifting or diet or roids.

ignore the autismo caps lock writing

>>41783682
Yo is that Action's oil that I spy with my eye?

>>41784215
i live in holland, unfortunately for this.
docs will not even prescribe anything if test is >300.

>>41784238
Agreed.
You can have a retarded routine but if you manage to make your muscles work you will grow.

Food helps but fuck it, just don't overeat and you'll be fine.

>>41784239
synthetic action 2 stroke oil yes, well spotted my dear fraudster

>>41784243
ja knul dat ben ik ook, gewoon nieuwe dokter vinden totdat je er een slimme hebt en als dat geen optie is gewoon zelf doen.

>>41784273
The very oil that gets my scooter to the gym and back

>>41784234
r u sure about dis bruda? is everyone still going to be drunk? alcohol is too much of a fun factor to miss out on, on spring break.

i also heard alcohol is a city-wide ban in panama city beach, not just the beach. Meaning you cant drink alcohol if you are in public

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>>41783727
>>41783859
jewellery scales are $15.... and they can measure accurately.

>>41784098
B12 shots, not sure why but that made me laugh a lot more than it should.
>mfw you can pick free needle's and syringes up from heroin support clinics in UK

>>41784273
but arent the trt dosises shite low here?

i dont wanna go on trt to raise my test from 300 to 400...

>>41784286
welk merk n model?

>>41784273
Heb jij het via een endo?
Waar zat je voordat je aan de trt ging?

>>41784307
Malaguti Phantom f12 in het rood.
Ander uitlaatje erop, ontgrenst maar niet opgevoerd.
Haalt toch wel een mooie 90 km/u.

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>>41784300
Last year they just pulled people who were on the sand, and I don't believe it's changed.
http://www.springbreakfunplace.com/panama-city-beach-alcohol-ban/
Googled it just now and the top search seems to agree with me.

>>41784238
>you guys have everything on point
Uhhhhh who exactly? I can see Mast, Chem and maybe a couple others but most people here don't have shit on point.

I'm saying your training can be less than optimal but if diet is on point you'll gain muscle, lose fat etc. You think Mast runs some sort of ootimized, percentage based program? Fuck no, he has a general plan and burns the hell out of his muscles. Go ahead and ask him the next time he's on what the most important part of BB is. Hell say genetics then diet.

>>41783727
Or you could, yknow, just measure out 1.25ml when you dose.

>>41784360
>Genetics
>Growth hormone
>Anabolics
>Training
>Diet

>>41775407
Brahs, this rate of facial hair growth I've had for the past 6 months is fucking messing with my mental health. It only takes 2 hours after shaving before it grows back and I get ingrown hairs that itch like a motherfucker.

How do I prevent this while taking a lot of DHT (Methyl-DHT, Stanolone / Anadrol) for strength training? I'm thinking about trying out test suspension, but I doubt that will help.

>>41784303
nah anything from 75mg+ is pretty normal depending on how much your doc is a bro

>>41784324
mijn huisarts is ook gelicentseert endocrinoloog.

>>41784342
kanker lekker, ik had de kans ook een malaguti phantom te halen voor 400 euro van een vriend maar ben opzich wel tevreden met mn 100 euro china 2 takter

hij liep eerst 40 maar oliepomp ging de kanker dus nu heb ik cilinder schoongemaakt van koolstof resten en wat gesmeerd en nieuwe uitlaat pijp en nu pakt ie 93km/h helemaal opgevoerd + vario aangepast.

moet m nu nog lakken/pimpen, plastic onderdelen zijn helemaal bleek geworden door benzine

>>41783994
yeah that's not how it works at all. a scale can be able to both calculate in increments of .1g and have a minimum weight of 1g

>>41784374
Post a pic big guy

>>41784388
yeah, but isn't 150mg optimal?

>>41784373
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>>41784409
I mean I was going off what a pro bb was saying, but I guess you if you really want....
>pic somewhat related

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> ESTP has a miscarriage from AAS use
> this is somehow unexpected and an issue

Idk if it's true but it should be pretty fucking obvious that using steroids will cause a miscarriage during pregnancy. It's not a loss; it's a choice.

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>>41784238
then why do i look like shit checkmate roiders

>>41784410
75mg will put you atleast in the average range.

150mg puts me in the 1100-1300 range.

just talk to your endo/doc, they are humans too.

>>41784485
dunning-krueger in full effect bois

>>41784443
Which one? Oh yeah, can't tell because that pic is completely unverifiable

>>41784502
"test of 300 is fine for a 24yo male" - my doc

i dont want an average test when the average person doesnt exercise and eats like shit.

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>>41784586
go see a new doc my nigga

or just cruise 4 lyfe

stop whining your low test excuses to me and do something pussy

>>41784636
im busy trying to get them to treat my thyroid shit first.
if that wont help enough, i think there's no option but cruising

>>41784502
dunning-krueger is literally the polar opposite of what you mean, nerd. him flexing a 13 inch cep and bragging would be it

>>41784727
dunning-krueger also means that people who are "good" at something will see themselves as bad or average.

>>41784744
wut. fair enough then, always only knew of the other way round. I'll just call it muscle dysmorphia, sounds cooler because it has the word muscle in it.

>>41784346
fuuuuuuuuk dude i just watched a dozen spring break 2017 videos from panama city beach.

DED, nuff said. DED.

Im so pissed right now. Even if the alcohol ban isnt that harsh it sucks when people are missing

>>41784388
Die van mij is gelicentseert vrouwentijdschriftlezer.

Zat je al bij hem of hoe de fuck vind ik een competente huisarts?

>>41778406
bilirubin is from your liver. You're probably overworking your liver with supplements.

>>41784795
Moose did you pct or are you cruising.

>>41784675
Whats wrong with your thyroid?

>>41784829
ik was al bij mijn huisarts ja.

>got two pouches of protein from myprotein
>strawberry cream and smooth chocolate
>get box yesterday
>light as fuck
>open
>stamp that says "PACKAGE WITHOUT CONTENTS"
>myprotein taking forever to answer me back

God fucking damnit

So legit question, I am super curious about DHB. But everyone says the pip is terrible because it probably crashes after injection. But what about a lower concentration?

>>41784941
see >>41784193

most of the symptoms fit too

>>41775485
cut out the dbol, your cycle is short as fuck, don't worry about aromatase unless your nipples hurt or grow, make sure you're always checking if they are ok
my first cycle was 500mg test e and 80mg anavar and it went great, solid gains and kept 90% of it, went from 175 to 198lbs in three months

>>41784502
zou ik een AI moeten nemen als ik 150mg/week neem en <12% bf ben?

>>41785043
dat hangt ervan af hoe je reageert.

ik heb rond de 60 e2 als ik geen ai neem en dat is me net iets te veel dus ik neem echt super kleine adex dosis.

>>41785005
So underperformer thyroid?
Why not take t3/t4? It's dirt cheap.

>>41785043
Waarchijnlijk niet, maar probeer het wel bij de hand te houden.

>>41784931
i ended my 500mg test blast end of march and am now cruisin on 250mg.

I have decided against a second blast and will prolly cruise until spring break.
Well actually i cant decide wether im big or shredded enough so maybe ill do a small blast, we'll see.

and u brah?

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>>41784974
I particularly despise you as a, trip.

So I been training for about 4 years, last 2 years I really took serious my diet and routine, but I want a little more of mass gain
Right now I`m 5`11 and 187 lbs at 13-15 %, I was thinkin on blasting
Gonna do the pastebin recommended blast at 15 weeks of 500mg Testosterone/week + 75mg Epistane/ED (first 6 weeks)
Also gonna use Arimidex( .5 mg E3D as starting point) as for pct I will use Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Anyother thing I should look out for? Maybe another compound + test? dbol?

>>41785057
oke, thx

>>41785064
ik probeer op t moment de huisarts zo ver te krijgen om uberhaupt uit te zoeken waarom m'n schildklierhormoon fucked is.
en ja, als t opgelost kan worden met T4, great.

>>41785072
Holy fuck fude you shrunk.... ugh. Is that what getti g sick does to you. I'm so scared I just wanna blast forever.

I was sick for 3 days on my last week of my blast I'm just now starting to eat. I feel so small. I'm so scared I don't want to shrink.

>>41785106
Maybe if you blast long enough your body will adapt.

1g Tren year round baby.

>>41785106
lol wut.
you mean i got leaner. I was 90kg in my blast, way too fat. i barely lost any muscles mass, if at all

>>41785160
Idk mane, you looked nice and thicc earlier. But if you're happy that's cool.

>>41785078
<3

>>41784974
Huh looking into DHB it sounds like a really nice thing to stack with.

>>41784238
Muscle growth is part hormone levels, part training stimulus. If you cruise on 150 test and 400 tren and eat right, you *will* be lean and muscular. By the time you get to pro BB level you barely need to train at all because the doses these guys take raise their "floor" to absurd levels. At that point just getting enough calories is more important than anything that happens in the gym.

>>41784974
If you're seeing DHB over 100mg/ml assume it's Bold Cyp.

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>>41785184
>nice and thicc

fat and horrible you mean

>>41785235
it sounds like baby tren.

But everyone says the pip is fucking terrible.

>>41777300
>I don't want to go crazy on my first cycle with barely TRT level dosage

ok pal

>>41785335
both are pretty much correct

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>>41784485
L O N D O N

>>41785335
>>41785366

Shame. Might just as well stick to Tren then. I'm in for trying a new compound.

So far I prefer Tren, Deca and Mast for injectables and Anavar as my only oral.
Legit Var is the tits.

>>41785279
I figured that would be too good to be true.

I wonder if I can get someone to whip up some around 75mg.

>>41785518
Pretty sure I'd die on tren. I already have horrible sleeping problems.

>>41785080
That sounds like a lot of epi for a first cycle, otherwise mostly all good. Just maybe hold off on the ai until you start to notice sides/just two weeks in or something.

>>41785553
Tren lets me get away with barely 2 hours of sleep.
Tren aside I've always had sleeping issues as well. Frequently wake up full of energy only to crash half an hour later.

I've had the sickest pump during one of these nights only to faint and slam my head straight into the desks corner.

Tren never added to this problem, but maybe I'm just fucked up enough not to notice.

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>>41785588
I've been having insomnia (waking up during the night and struggling to get back to sleep) since week 7 or so of test e. I can't imagine trensomnia, I'd take the fucking toaster for a swim.

>>41785612
I had that on my first blast as well, it went away after a few weeks. A solid bedtime and melatonin helps me a lot.

Coming into the second week of tren for me. Can't tell whether the insomnia and night sweats are the dnp or.tren though haha

>>41785612
Imagine the gains tho.
Who needs sleep when you've got that Trenergy