/FAT/ SS + GOMAD, edition

milk tastes so god damn good, might try a gomad bulk after the summer but need to get to 8% first

Why do their knees go in like that?

>>41761667
Goddamn same here
I'll also eat tons of pb after I get to around 10%

I'm super ashamed of being fat. I have no excuses.

>be a fosterkid
>fosterparents love me extremely much and work hard all their lives to give me and my brother the best in life
>born with hypercholesterolemia
>parents and doctors cooperate to give me the best diet they can to help me
>i work against them by using all my money on candy and raiding the fridge during the night
>parents chase me outside every day because all i want to do is stay on the computer
>work against them by hiding in nearby forest and just napping all day
>all my friends are active and always make sure to include me and invite me when doing things
>i work against them by either refusing to come along or just sit and watch on the sidelines, alienating myself on purpose

I literally had a naturally fit lifestyle handed to me on a plate and yet i threw it all away because i was stupid

165lbs, down from 210, i'm gonna make it
i can't live every day being angry at myself any more, i have to make it

>>41761920
And you will make it. Hope you still have good relationships with your foster parents. Stay positive anon and embrace the outdoor life.

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Opinions on this guy?

>>41761629
lol ive never been fat tho....6'3 always had abs since 12 years old kek

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So how is your diet going fellas

MEPS on Wednesday and Thursday. I'm a little nervous as my mile is just around 10 minutes right now, but my push-ups and sit-ups are fine.

I'm going to be the oldest mother fucker there and, that in mind, most of my family is deceased or we're not on good terms so writing letters is going to be a bitch. Can't imagine being the one mother fucker not getting mail.

Need to shore up my weight and runs. I put in 5 miles a day and ruck at 60 lbs for 3-5, depending.

Going to add 100 laps a day in the pool and maybe a 5 mile bike ride, just to cardio out the ass.

Focus on bodyweight routine since I'm .75/1.25/2.75/3.5 on my lifts. Close enough, considering the constant cut.

Wish me luck, /fat/s.

>>41762146
I´ve reduced my deficite a bit since a average deficite of 1500kcal per day was kind of extreme for my verry small body.

>tfw 13%bf

hold me bros, being this fat makes me wanna kms

>>41762166
how old are?
height/weight?
what branch and mos?

best of luck, man.

>>41762146
how were you in the negative calories?

>>41762297
27
6'2 - 190 lbs, should be 180 by ship out.
Army Reserve - 68T (Animal Care Technician)

If 68T isn't open, I ASVAB'd high enough to be anything so I will likely stay medical, alternatively, 68W (Health Care Specialist)

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>>41762146

p good

fat fucks

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Oh shit.
Guys it is time for my weekly weigh in.

I'm scared.

>>41762393
Try 68A bmet for those sweet sweet civilian dollars. The guy I replaced at my unit (SSG, 10 yrs) is making 103k rn at a children's hospital

>>41762466
No shit? I picked 68T because I intend to go to school full time and become an Army Veterinarian. Seemed the most logical approach to it.

Tempting though.

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Today I am one month into dieting. I've gone from 300 lbs to 275 this morning.

Do I run before or after my weight lifting workout to minimize muscle loss? I'm able to run 10 minutes at 6.5 mph. I will try to increase it to 20 min and eventually 30 min as I get skinnier. Do I run before, so I can go home, eat my protein and carbs to replenish as quickly as possible. Or do I do it after so I have more energy during my workout? I'm too lazy to jog during off days.

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I'm a recent immigrant to America and I realized Americans are so fat, why is that?

>>41762624
Because even the poorest among us have an abundance of food.

>>41761703
too much fat in upper inner thighs.

>>41762624
because food is delicious but no one seems to understand what's nutritious

>>41762440
do it pussy and report back with results.

>>41762624
Because obesity is a huge money making industry in the US. The fast and processed food corps. make money but selling shit food to people. Then the medical and fitness (look at planet fitness) industry makes huge bucks """trying""" to cure obesity. It's a pretty shit cycle.

>>41762624
the american mindset is quite stunning, they rather make up support groups and call the media hitler than turning the lens inward and to acknowledge that they have a problem.

>>41762670
More like your food have a shit quality.

>>41762624
you have to go back

>>41762763
Yes, every single piece of food in the US is shit quality. You figured it out, now go back

>>41762624
There's like a direct correlation between the war on fat/low fat craze and the obesity epidemic.
Everything here is loaded with sugars and carbs because for like 40 years they pushed carbs being healthy and fats being bad.

Dumbfucks don't realize that.

>>41762440
>>41762698
Down a pound. At 245lbs.
I was hoping for two, but I'm still okay with it.

>>41761629
started the water fasting meme today. 6 hours in. will report the next days. Just wanna test my willpower and discipline.

Got some supps to get all my vitamins/nutrients.

Also, do you think Tea would break the fasting? (even if its calles water fasting)

>>41762804
is that daily loss or weekly?
>>41762834
6 hours inst fasting yet, fasting kicks in at like 8 hours. but good luck hope it works.

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>>41762861
>is that daily loss or weekly?
I weigh every week. I started my plan on April 30, 2017 at 256lbs. I'm down to 245lbs today for a total loss in that time of 11 pounds.

I went 2 weeks where the scale refused to move, but I made some changes and I'm losing now. My goal is 2 pounds or more a week, but I need to exercise a lot more for that to happen

>>41762889
a lb in a week is ok. should be the usual but at 245 you can push for 2 lbs a week until around 200ish. try to recount your diet. are you a grill or just post grills lifting?

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>>41762763
I never understood how that trend formed up.
I mean, you still have bakeries, farmer's markets and grocery stores, right? Even if not, the supermarkets still carry fresh produce and raw grains, right? Why have Americans turned to processed packaged garbage so much more than everybody else? The same shit is available in Europe but the majority still buys raw ingredients and cooks at home.
I often hear how bad food is cheaper in the US, how do you manage to make a product cost less than the ingredients that went in it? Is there some organization subsidizing those products?

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>>41762933
>just post grills lifting
Also birds.

I'm a guy and my diet is fine. I don't want to go lower than 1800 calories a day. I just need to do my daily cardio. I also took a little weightlifting break because I injured my neck doing some benchpress without a bench.

Question: I was making my shopping list and it had skim milk on it, and my friend gets into a big huff about how it has more sugar than regular milk and no nutrients. I drink Skim because its got the same grams of protein but less calories. What am I missing out on by going with Skim milk?

>>41762951
best thing is, when I visited america, people seem to be too dumb to buy ingredients and cut them up for a salad. they buy their salad already done or from mcdonalds and shit, while complaining "MUH BURGERS MUH SALAD TOO EXPENSIVE THATS WHY WE FAT"

The fuck is wrong with them, how uneducated can u be

>>41762992


you "miss" out on more fat. thats it. it just got a lower fat % = less calories

don't let them fool you, your friend seems dumb and let me guess he also thinks veggies make you thin and fastfood fat

>>41763020
convenience is a problem too
odds are a decent amount of them work a shitty desk job all day, and grabbing shit fast food saves time

of course most of them are just stupid

>>41763054
He has said some dumb things in the past.

But is this all housewife bullshit here?:
https://www.bewell.com/blog/5-reasons-to-skip-the-skim-milk/

What games do you play fatties? I need a new game that i can play for a while.

>>41763075
There's tons of people working a shitty desk job all day in Europe too and the manage somehow.

>>41763093
Of you're trying to lose weight you shouldn't drink milk in the first place. If you're going to drink milk at least drink skim. I didn't look at the link because milk is shitty anyway.

is it ok if i come here since theres no skinny fat gen?

where do you guys get real olive oil? live in the deep south so everything in the stores are fake and idk what brands are real
what other oils are good to cook with too? can i use flax or is what im buying probably fake too
is vegetable oil bad?

>>41762107
he's looking good.

>>41762889
i don't remember uraraka being that fit.

made WAAAY too much mince
don't think I'll eat it all before it goes bad

pretty sure my math is wrong because the calorie count is just too damn low for how filling it is

>>41763179
Im not trying to lose weight right now, bulking, I just like milk to cook some things with and mix in with my protein shake.

>>41762951
In Canada the nutritional information on products gives you fat as a percentage of daily allowance (which the government thinks should be practically nothing) but they give you sugar as a unit of grams as if you can have unlimited sugar in your diet.

Redpill me on diet soda, please.

I've avoided soda all my life, but today had a can of diet pepsi and discovered that not only was it 0 calories, but all it had was just a little bit of sodium.

But I remember people hating on diet soda in this thread in the past. So why should I start drinking diet soda as an alternative to caffeine instead of coffee and tea?

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Confess.

>>41761920
Honestly, if 210 was your worst weight then you didn't do THAT bad unless you're like 5'5 or something.

>>41762107
to me he seems a bit on the crazy side, like onision type of crazy

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I just ate an extra 800 calories today.

But the good news is that I no longer need to add sugar to my coffee, so that's 130 calories less per day.

How hard am I allowed to squeeze when taking skinfold measurements?

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>>41761629
I've been on gomad since around the beginning of march, and these are my results. Keep in mind I wasn't perfect but I drank a gallon at least around 8/10 days.

Should I cut it now that it's basically summer or have I not made enough progress to justify it and it's too late to cut anyway?

>>41763518
tren + gomad + SS

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>>41763518
Here's me pre gomad

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>>41762146
What the hell did you eat that day? Did you chug a liter of olive oil?

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>>41763518
>>41763536
I'm just gonna post my backs hot since I think I've made the most progress in my lower body even if it's still shit.

>>41763533
What's tren?

>>41763560
*backside

>>41762344
I'm assuming that means under his maintenance

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>tfw recovery day
>tfw comfy as fuck in my room with my fan blowing cool air towards me while starting up and learning Crusader Kings 2 for the first time while watching E3 streams while drinking delicious protein shake

>>41762992
Some low fat products add sugar to make up for the relative blandness from removing the fat. Not sure if they do it with milk too, but that might be where he got it from. Easy to check on the packaging and avoid the products that do this.

>>41762967
>bench press without a bench
you mean a floor press?

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>>41762992
>willingly giving yourself estrogen

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>>41763432
5'4''

>>41763424
people say it gives you cancer, insulin spikes and shit which could give you hunger for fastfood. but thats a question of willpower.

The cancer thing idk. Maybe. But desu? Nowadays everything gives you cancer and as long as you are not exaggerating, you can drink your diet soda and be fine.

good thing is, that you have something that tastes good and is a nice variation to only drinking water. dont listen to the turbo autists h2o addicts.

>>41763560
Makes me sad to see all the people that fall for GOMAD+SS. SS in and of itself will make you look like shit. It's just for developing your nervous system to adapt to the lifts, so once you start going heavier on higher volume programs, you will not struggle with the form. Stop doing GOMAD bro. I would recommend switching to a higher volume 5x5 program while eating at a slight deficit. Once you start to plateau, increase your calories to a maintenance. Once you start to plateau again, increase the surplus a bit more. GOMAD is only for the super skinny guys, you are not one of them. In terms of a good volume program you should switch to, I'd recommend ICF 5x5 or AlphaDestiny's Novice program. Yeah Alex and Bloho are kinda memes, but they have really solid high volume programs that are great for building strength while also putting on a lot of size.

>>41762624
Subsidized corn syrup in literally everything and the big sugar cabal brainwashing everyone into thinking that fat is the real enemy.

>>41763560
Tren as in trenbolone. It's a steroid

>>41762624
Increased accessibility to food. There are fast food places on every street.

>>41763603
>>bench press without a bench
>you mean a floor press?
No, I mean a bench press. Used a foam roller to get the height. I'm used my laundry hamper in the past, but I cracked it.

>>41763518
>>41763536

I'm not really seeing a difference with these two pictures.. except that you lost your man-titties, which is great!

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>>41762624

>>41762504
25 pounds in a morning? Props to you man, that's quite the accomplishment.

I was fasting, but got rekt in an accident. I'm fine, just really damn sore all fucking over. Should I start eating for now or finish the fast anyway? Don't want to slow down recovery.

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I did a 5 brosplit for a year now with a few months break due to eye surgery, barely improved my compounds (70kg bench, 90kg squat and 85 DL only), should I go do SS for a few months and switch to a ULUL split or what do, idk. Help pls
6'2" and 196 lbs 18.7%BF

>>41763917
Wrong thread, sry

>>41763659
Any advice on how to get the right percentages of protein/fat/carbs when not on gomad. and also keeping track of calories in general? Also on icf 5x5 it says to do bench press but I've mostly been doing incline bench. Does that matter or should I go back to bench?

That was an actually really helpful answer thanks m8.

>>41763536
>>41763518
>>41763560
gomad is for literal Auschwitz surviors. unless you got bones sticking out you shouldnt be doing it. you just gained alot of fat for no reason. you shoulda just lifted. people need to stop jumping into gomad, do a little thinking first.

>>41763779
you are an idiot. if you dont have a bench dont do bench press. you are going to wreck your back doing that.
>>41763963
chicken and rice and greek yogurt. done and done. its like you retards cant google basic macros in food or even read it off the label.

>>41762133
Then /fat/ is not for you. Go be a fag somewhere else.

>>41761629
Do cycle of clen

>>41763206
I think Costco has some good stuff. That's where I've always gotten mine and it's pretty good.

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I've lost a lot of weight and gained muscle, but it doesn't change the fact that I'm lonely with no friends to talk to, not even online...

>>41764080

Identify what it is that makes people not want to be your friend.

Maybe you have a shitty laugh. Or you talk about autistic shit. Maybe you talk too little. Probably too much. Identify the core issue and work on it. I had alot of issue speaking at the correct volume. What sounds like a perfect volume to my ears is more akin to a mouse whispering to others. So, I forced myself to speak what I thought was a little too loud which was actually just right.

You got this nigga

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>>41763992
I'm in college though
>chicken and rice and greek yogurt
I'm pretty sure the convenience store nearby doesnt have any of that, the nearest grocery store is 30 min away, also I don't have a fridge in my dorm to store any of that, not to mention I don't even really know how to cook, and the only kitchen is on the ground floor so it'll be a hassle to have to always go down there and spend 20 minutes cooking, so I mostly just eat out, and I have no idea how to keep track of calories there.

Made my pre-boot training rifle.

Wooden dowel 40 inches long with 2 weights on it.

8.6 lbs, about as close as I can get it.

Shit is getting real, lads.

Hey /fat/ contest participants, are there any provable challenges you'd like to see as part of our journey, just for fun? I'm willing to elect a $10 gift card or something, but, ironically, these challenges would be totally independent of weigh-ins so that no one feels at a disadvantage for not participating. I was thinking a cooking-related challenge could be involved as well as a challenge using MapMyWalk (because you all should be doing *some* cardio anyways). If you like things exactly the way they are though or if you are against any tangible prizes, that's cool too.

>>41763429
Ate pizza for first time in a while grease and pepper flakes scourging my innards

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How do I win over gym girls?

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>>41764080
I know that feeling, anon.

>>41764080
Being alone is better than being around shitty friends who make you feel like shit. And there are almost no good people left.

>>41764104
>Identify what it is that makes people not want to be your friend.

Me not wanting be friends with them.
I yearn for companionship but when I'm actually around people I hate every minute of it.

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Does anyone here know anything about water fasting? Would it be worth doing it for a week to get this layer of fat off of me from gomad?

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>>41764080
>tfw no friends that you can talk about nutrition and lifting with

nobody understands

>>41764209
great for fatties, shit for people that have muscle

>>41764180

What exactly do you dislike? Just the lack of personal space? The persoanlities of other people? Opinions/interests? I had a similar issue when I was young, but learned that I actually don't mind people as long as the friendship is low maintenance and the people themselves are much like myself. I still hate the average person but hey atleast I have a good circle of friends.

>>41764209
water fasting is great if you're a thick weak white girl cunt who can't just reduce their calorie intake and it's not at all unhealthy

>>41764209
Defeats the purpose of SS+GOMAD. Lift at or slightly below maintenance

>>41764080
Drop your Discord and I'll add you later.

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>>41762624
I'm not american but i gotta say you have to go back

>>41764239
>>41764272
>>41764276
Will it really take that much muscle with it? I've read that until you lose most of you of your fat it won't take much muscle if any at all.

http://www.leanhigh.com/weight-loss/diet-reviews/fasting-for-weight-loss-how-much-muscle-will-you-lose

>>41764113
get protein bars then. or just buy anything with meat in it.
>>41764151
lift really hard in front of them to show how strong you are. they will come over and spread their legs to take your masculine seed.

>>41763020
this was a big thing i noticed while i was at college in the US. people cant cook, they dont know how or what. 95% of student end at boxed mac n' cheese.

i once made dough for proper european bread to bake at a BBQ and the people went nuts. like this is magic.

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Guys i lost 1.7 lbs in 5 days should i be worried?

Went on a hike today that was down/up the Niagara escarpment to the river, it was over 3 hours of walking(with breaks since I'm so out of shape, going up the cliffs was pretty rough, tons of rock stairs), even after my planned dinner factored in, I still have only consumed 1100cal, not factoring in my exercise. My planned dinner is a small piece of salmon, brown rice and cooked veggies. Should I add more and have a larger dinner to consume more calories? I'm 330lbs, so 1100 seems quite low. I don't want to over/under do it.

>>41762951
This is true, I must admit it. I had to go out of my way to learn about healthy and homemade stuff to make. I notice that it almost always comes from Mediterreanean or Mexican culture because they have tons of dishes that use fresh ingredients. I can't think of any American foods that use low-calorie ingredients or fresh produce. You have some regions that focus on what's local but it's almost always a meat or seafood, not much creative vegetable/bean dishes. But our main thing is corn so who can be blamed?

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>weigh in at doctors in March
>180 lbs (5'7")
>start counting calories, eating roughly 1600 calories a day
>don't have a scale at home, not sure if losing weight, especially with type 1 diabetes
>finally order a scale, weigh in
>170 lbs
Time to actually keep it up, was starting to slip a bit.

>>41764354
no, keep doing what youre doing. when you stop, just ease back into a regular diet to prevent massive weight gain

Trying to lose weight here and I have a question about supplements.

I am thinking about adding BCAA and creatine to my post workout protein shake.

Is it a good idea?

>>41764396
It's not that i'm starving myself, i just don't feel that hungry anymore, fibers and chicken fill me up

does anyone know how the macros in fiber one cereal are possible? according to the label, there is:
1 g of fat
2 g of protein
25 g of carbs (14 fiber, 11 other)
only 60 calories

do nutrition labels not count calories from fiber?

>>41763891
how many days are u fasting and what incident happened?

if water fasting, after 2-3 days the stomach pain is gone and will feel better. aftee that, every day will be worse.

you should get all your nutrients though. You got any supplements? If not Id just take juice or something to get some minerals. After that, fast again

>>41764483

Probably not counting the fiber calories.Common occurrence that different brands selling the same bean like to pull to trick people into buying their "healthier" version.

>>41763429
Had a tiny bit of chocolate cake, but still under my calorie goal.
Gonna make it.

>>41764351

yeah exactly this! When you start cooking some easy shit they go batshit insane how fucking tasty it is and what a great cook I am (dude I just bought pasta and created a 5 minute selfmade tomatosauce, nothing difficult)

people like this will end up fat

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>>41764134
Sounds interesting! How would a cooking comp work though? Jw

>>41764424

I wouldn't take creatine while cutting. Water weight fucks up your weigh ins. bcaa is good. also take zinc.

keep eating these banana chips
only 1 at a time, maybe 4 a day, but it adds up and I don't count it
need to throw them out désú

>>41764560
That's the first time I hear about Zinc. That's interesting. Thank you for your input!

>>41764560
bcaas seems kinda like a waste of calories to me desu

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Moved down to 2x today lads, were gonna make it

>>41764539
They'd have to make an infographic or 2X2 (or more) with timestamps. I figure if it takes enough effort, cheaters won't bother but not too much effort that no one wants to participate. An example of a contest would be "best dinner under 500 calories" using MFP values for the ingredients. Give a 5 day limit to do their cooking and "editing", and have a certain time window to post their graphics, kind of like the old /ck/ cooking competitions, and posters in the /fat/ thread can vote based on any criteria they wish (unless I specify something other than calories).

>lost 12kg in 2 months thanks to /fat/
>stop coming here
>gained 6kg back 1 month later
fuck

>>41761629
these threads don't feel the same without a fat wojak tbqfwya

>>41764338
If you're talking super short term, like a week, you'll be fine, but at that point you're not sustainable losing fat, you're just draining glycogen stores and dehydrating your lean tissue and fat. If you want to actually be less fat and maintain lean muscle, you'll need to do so in a more sustainable manner.

>>41761629
Living with my parents for the summer is both good and bad. I can cook, mostly control my diet, and I have no adult responsibilities.

Bad because my dad really fucking loves to eat outside at least once or twice a week. It's hard maintaining calorie control when you don't know what you're eating. He also gets really pissy and moody if no one listens to him. And not even shitty places, he likes fancy places with soft napkins and artsy cutlery. Makes it even harder because I feel this place is great and I probably shouldn't waste an opportunity like this. I know it's a shitty thing to complain about but still difficult to maintain a decent deficit.

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Post how many poumds left till goal body guys. Mine is 7 LBs
>>41761629
KEK

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>>41764809
124. I hate you desu

Anyone else here take more than 2 protein shakes a day? Most days, I have to take more than 2 to meet my 150g protein macro

I've steady lost ~3lbs per week for the past 5 weeks doing IF. Should I stop?

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>>41764844
you can do that regular dieting, your good m8

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>>41764809
15 pounds and I'll technically be in the lower weight range of the fit category for BMI. Next is body recomp : working on melting that body fat and building some more muscle.

>>41764809
must suck when progress is so slow

>>41764809
Also 7 pounds, I'll race you

>>41764809
1.5lbs until my initial goal, probably 6.5lbs until I'm happy.

>>41764809
Idk like 60?

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AWAKEN MY MASTERS
>>41764828
For you. <3

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>>41764902
AWAKEN MY MASTERS

>>41764902
AWAKEN MY MASTERS

>>41764809
15 lbs from bodyfat so probably about 20 something left to lose, from 275 and I don't know but a fuck ton of bodyfat to 225 and around 16 percent bodyfat since December 15th. Still trucking along but progress is much slower now that I'm relatively lean.

>>41764902
AWAKEN, MY MASTERS!

>>41764809

I'm trying to get back to what would be considered a normal BMI and bf%. I still have at least 70 pounds to go.

I've almost lost 70 pounds already, so I'm near the halfway point.

>>41764902
AWAKEN MY MASTERS

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>>41764964
Progress pic if anyone's interested, I'm pretty proud of what I've done I'm 6 months

>>41764809
240 lb to 160 lb in 7 months
im 5´'10

>>41765004
5 lb more

>>41764809
post feminine benis

>>41764809
20lbs. Aiming for 75-77kg

>>41764996
Great job anon that's some serious progress for just half a year. I'd bet you are sub 16% bf

>>41764996
SOFIA
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>>41765049
Thanks man, yeah I didn't pay to have it done but I used calipers and a bodyfat scale, the under armour one and they both said 16 but I know they are not really accurate either.

>>41765067
I don't get it?

>>41764809
130lbs left, already dropped 55

>>41764996
Were you the guy that his titties got someone banned on /v/ per chance?

I'm like 230lb or so. Would doing a 1500 calorie protein-based diet and stronglifts be the way to go? I saw someone talking about that in a different thread.

>>41765093
Lol no but I did have a pretty nice rack for a dude

>>41764809
20kgs left. should be around 40lbs

>>41764996
impressive bro. really gives me hope that my manboobs will be gone when Im at my goalweight

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>>41764809
19ish until goal weight.

>>41763645
>shit which could give you hunger for fastfood.
i think this is because it does nothing for satiety

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>>41762951
>that pic needs an update for the European girl
but yeah I'm pretty sure corn is heavily subsidized here in burgerland

>>41765075
It's the capital of bulgaria

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>>41763424
All the evidence you need, also it increases estrogen.

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>>41765215
He's right, I haven't either.

>>41765215
I have never seen a thin person advocating keto.

>>41763424
Sometimes have diet soda because it has a much higher caffeine amount, but really you should avoid soda i general at all costs. That shit is literal cancer to your body.

>>41765228
Thanks for triggering my mc donald's fries craving.

>>41765260
I've never seen a thin person go on a cut.

>>41765277
That shit is sludge, bro. That's like craving clods of shit.

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>>41765215

can't refute that

>>41765277
Omg I had a small handful of fries earlier. And maybe half a can of coke for the first time in forever (70 cals). But I've been just nibbling in general today, probably 500 calories. Also had my favorite snack for the first time in....years maybe...a bit of peanut butter on whole grain bread....I ought to do this once or twice a week if I can keep myself from binging ^.^

>>41764809
42 lbs

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Not gonna make it

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>>41765707

>A day's worth of calories in a single sitting

>>41765707
>bacon cheddar mcchicken

The patrician's choice

>>41765721
To be fair I haven't eaten today.

>>41765721
If you are IF, that's fine

>>41765707
it's over

>>41762107
How the fuck does he not have skintitties?

>>41764809
22kg

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>>41764996
R O U T I N E
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>>41764996
diet?

>>41765823
This

>>41764996
Looking great brah,I'm pretty much where you started atm(or at least look like it)

t.5'9 213lbs

>>41763429
Had a big ass piece of cheesecake last night but still ended up within my calories for the day.

>>41764996
Come now, you need to tell us what you did. What was your workout/diet?

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I think this was the best day for me in terms of macros

>>41762166
someone should get your info and just mail you a printout of the /fat/ thread every day

>>41764809
7.5 til initial goal
22.5 from current goal

>>41764809
100.
>feelsbadman.jpg

>>41763222
She could be if she didn't cheat and make all the pl8s in the gym weightless.

>>41765707
good god im drooling. once i hit my goal weight im gonna hit up five guys then chick fila then mcdonalds super salty fries.

>>41765707
>>41765721

That's more than a day's worth of calories though.

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>>41765707
But why anon??

>>41764902
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!

>>41765887
Better yet, have someone print and mail screenshots of messages just for that anon.

>>41765707
Holy heavens

>>41765823
>>41765833

For routine I do a 4 day split, chest, back, shoulders, legs, I start with the big compound for each, bench, dead, ohp, squat, then do 5 or 6 accesory lifts each day 4 sets each every couple weeks I through in variations like rack pulls or front squats I go everyday so I repeate the split just under twice a week, I start every morning with hiit sprints or the concept 2 rower, about 20-30 minutes of either. I can go into more specifics if interested but as long as I focus on the big lifts my strength seems to stay up, I'm not really progressing much anymore but I've been in a massive deficit for 6 months so I wouldn't expect to. I'm guessing about 8-12 more weeks and I can up the cals slowly and work on getting stronger again.

Diet wise I did keto for about the first 25 lbs, worked pretty well but eventually I just didn't feel good in the gym anymore, I've been doing about 1800 cals a day, 190 as protien minimum, the rest split between carbs and fat, I keep my carbs before and after my workout, I meal prep so every Sunday I make 21 meals, I eat three a day nothing more, just those and water. Chicken rice and mixed veggies all day everyday but it's working still so I'm keeping on with it.

>>41766001
>lean bulking manlet

Try being of human height. I'm 6'2 and eat 4000 a day.

>>41765839
Your gonna make it bruh we are all gonna make it. It gets easier pretty quickly, like as soon as I started seeing progress so rapidly it didn't take any real will power anymore I want to eat clean, I want to train and do cardio. I went from a size 40 waist to a size 32 and I'm having to wear a belt with the 32s now, not hating my body as much feels way better than eating garbage ever did.

>>41765802
He does. Go watch his vid on loose skin

>>41766138
Yeah that's why you're a fatty

>>41766212
Who is he?

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>>41766118
Heres a pic from last week's meal preps

>>41766118
Holy shit well done anon, i'll try to incorporate some of your routine into mine, thanks for the post

>>41766277
Too many carbs get rid of rice and add more chicken and broccoli.

>>41764131

What branch?

>>41766317
Most of that is cauliflower rice, half cup cooked basmati rice in each the rest is cauliflower

>>41766317
Oh and between 7 and 8 oz chicken in each, I use a scale to make sure, some is mixed in

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1.

>>41766317
He's not trying to slim down anon he's already past that

>>41766271
Just google/youtube around loose skin and you'll come across him like how to get rid of loose skin or something

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>>41766356
2. Around 35 pounds lighter. Also been lifting for about a month now. The first picture was taken about 7 months ago. Am I gonna make it bros?

>>41765871

what app do you use ?

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>>41766436
if you keep going at it you will anon

>>41766436
You've already made it from fat fuck to significantly less fat fuck. You've got what it takes.

>>41762951
The raw food is cheaper here. I think fast food just marketed smarter and harder here throughout the 80s and 90s, helping create a culture where "convenience food" was the norm, whether you were buying shit from McDonald's, or buying frozen pizzas or whatever.

We have great selections at fruit, veggies, and meats at pretty much every grocery store. They're cheap as fuck too. It's just that people are too goddamn lazy to cook them, or they have falsely convinced themselves it's "too expensive" because they once spent spent $8.50 on a raw-vegan-organic-grassfed papaya. Or they have convinced themselves that cooking is "hard" and difficult to learn, when the reality is that you can literally google any fucking food you want, and there are hundreds of recipes and videos telling you exactly how to fucking make it, with millions of reviews, corrections, and tips for each recipe.

There's literally no excuse to not buy mostly raw ingredients and prepare your own meals. It's usually cheaper, it's healthier, and all the knowledge you need is at your fingertips.

>>41766476
Do you notice any significant change? I need another pair of eyes.
>>41766523
Yeah still a fat fuck tho. I am 6'3" build, I am currently at 226. I was thinking of cutting down to 200 and then stopping (I want to be around 200 pounds in my "optimal" form). Do you think this is realistic? How long do you guys think it would take to convert most of my fat at 200 to muscle?

>>41763206
Get stuff from California. The shit from Greece and Italy is low quality bullshit. It is literally sometimes cut with fucking motor oil.

>>41765887
Haha, tempting but I'll leave it to Fasting Anon and see if its still around end of December.
>>41766335
Army Reserves

>>41766535
Totally anon. Im with yah there at height and weight.

My father was a pro ball playet (mlb) and for him his optimal weight for performance was 215 at 6'2". He was an outfielder/slugger so cutting alot was not optimal.

>>41766440
myfitnesspal, in the general sticky

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>1600 calorie limit reached
>tfw hungry as fuck,stomach growling like a mothafucker
halp

>>41766535
My approach is to lose as much fat as possible while lifting or in an ok body fat % and bulk from there but idk keep looking for what works for you

>>41766692
Water, you dumb bastard. Drink water!

>>41766692
What's your TDEE? How much are you cutting?

>>41766747
This. Or covfefe if you don't need to sleep.

>>41766692
eat fibers

>>41766692
The first cut is the deepest. Gets easier over time. Drink more water, eat more fiber and protein. Those help alot with hunger pains

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>>41761629
Imagine The Mountain from Game of Thrones. I have attached a photo of The Mountain from Game of Thrones in case you can't imagine him. Then imagine if he wasn't as muscular, yet retained his frame. And then imagine if he was pretty fat. That's me. Everywhere I go people always say "Holy shit you're a giant!" but I need to shed some weight and gain some muscle so I'm not shitting on this gift of gianthood by being a fatass.

I know fat dudes have great calves when they lose weight, so I think I'd be covered there. And I typically climb a flight of stairs 5-10 times per day, so I think overall my legs are great, apart from being fat. So would it be acceptable for me to only focus on my arms, core, shoulders, chest, and back? I can skip leg day?

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>>41766590

You got a ship date?
I'm going next month to Fort Sill.

Will I see a fellow /fit/zen there?

>>41766628
Yeah. My problem is that I know a large amount of this weight is fat as my lifts are pretty shit. I feel like my chest is really developed yet I'm pretty sure my one rep max is around 135 (it could just be that my triceps are shit as I barely even feel my chest working on bp). I'll cut down to 200 and if I end up gaining back a little more weight after I go back on maintenance then it should be fine as my nutrition is actually on point now

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>dieting is actually easy as fuk
>already down 60 lbs

hmm. i wonder what else people say is hard even though it's easy

>>41766933
We are gonna make it.

>>41762166

is me >>41766887

Do you have a steam account? I'd love to have an internet pen pal as we both prepare for our descent into the suck. Mine is in the name field. Add me if you like.

>>41766934
Pretty much everything assuming you apply yourself.

>>41766798
>I can skip leg day?
being able to up a flight of stairs doesnt make your legs good. do squats. to reach that body you will need to eat a life a shit ton.

>>41766934
Formal Logic (math)

>>41766798
No, train your legs, retard. Your legs have some of the biggest muscle groups in your body. Train all of your skeletal muscle. You may have slightly more mass there compared to the average untrained guy, but you still need to train your legs to make them strong, look good, and help accelerate your cut by increasing your BMR.

>>41766988
i think a lot of people are stuck in the defeatist trap that they can't accomplish anything

>>41763429

Baked myself a small load of bread. Flour, water, yeast, salt. 70% hydration, 2 hour autolyse w/ 1/2 flour + water; added the rest of the flour, the salt, and yeast, mixed let sit overnight to ferment, quick knead to smooth, shape into a loaf, 2 hour 2nd rise, cooked in a preheated dutch oven at 450 F, ate with butter while still warm. Came out golden brown, massive oven spring, I could hear the crust cracking as it rested from across the room.

Transubstantiation made perfect sense while I was eating it. 1300 calories total.

Not technically a cheat meal as I'm still under my calories for the day, but I cannot make a habit of it.

>>41766545
wow thats fucked up, thanks
any brand u use in specific?

>>41767043
I just moved states, so I'm not even sure what brands are available here. I grabbed "California Olive Ranch" off the shelf at midnight when I was tired as fuck and just grabbing basic shit to stock my new kitchen with. Tastes like olive oil.

>>41767043

Rule of thumb: Anything that says "Italy" on it is probably fake. Anything that says "extra virgin" and doesn't cost you an arm and a leg is fake.

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1600 calories
160 grams of protein
fuck this sucks bigones. I'm so fuckign hungry. But this is the price i have to pay to be skinny for the first time so be it. slim better taste better than food.

anyone getting treated differently after losing weight? i need motivation

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>>41767329
yes.
grills flirt all da time, but it could be that i have good facial features. or the fact that im a foreigner living in azia *not white btw.
summer heat isnt a prob
and i get to enjoy that sweet sweet beautiful people privilage now that im not overweight.
i still have a ways to go but the fact that grills stare at me from a distance is nice. but it does complicate the fact that i have a gf when tang is starting to throw itself at me...

>>41767329
Gymbros started saying hi to me.
And i never interacted with anyone due to my non existent social skills.

>>41767069
checks out, ty bro

>>41767368
Asian girls like chubby guys... Do you even live there

>>41767559
no they dont. there is a huge social stigma about being fat here. ive lived in taiwan for a year now, and i can say 2 things. being fat is being an outcast and racism is a real thing here, ie if you are not whiter than them they look down on you. as a hispanic that was borederline obese2 i saw the whole spectrum because i was a fattard and i am brown and being lumped in with the philipinos.

that being said im now out of obese and in normal range with some muscles, granted i lifted 10 years ago and was fit back then but got fat because complacence is a thing. now im getting back to my former glory and im beggining to enjoy the privilages i took for granted back then. i have a ways to go because im currenly at about 19% bf based on the navy calc and caliper readings. in my experiance only chubby azns like chubby ppl..

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>>41765228
kek

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I fucking drank last night... I lasted 19 days.
Woke up feeling like shit and had a shit workout. It pisses me off that I wasn't strong enough to remain sober.
Today was was the 20th day so that means picture and weight-in.
I am making some really great gains at the gym, all lifts are up. Sleep is still an issue as I only get 5-6 hours. Diet was once again very strict. Haven't really started to cardio, I'll get at it once the weight loss stalls

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>>41767667
you did well for 19 days in the first round. only be angry if u fall off the horse again in less than 19 days. think of it in terms of us fatasses that will diet and at some point cave in and eat but get back on the following day. because in the grand scheme of things its not the time we fail that we lose its when we let the failure cause us to give up that we lose the game. keep going anon you battle is not lost until u stay down.

>>41767667
Damn our bodies look exactly alike, add me on mfp 'waterdumpling' is my name

>>41767608
Maybe Taiwan's different than the mainland, I got hit on by tons of women and men when living there, seemed like they liked chubby men and big noses

>>41767753
mfp ?

>>41764354
1.7 lbs? That could literally be the food in your belly, take a shit. My weight can fluctuate by almost 10 lbs in a week.

>>41764809
180 now trying to get to 200 by the end of summer

>>41767774
My fitness pal, do you not track your calories

>>41764354
Hardly

At several points I've had stretches of three pounds a week lost

>>41764354
I would worry that you haven't lost more.

>>41767762
from the mainlanders here that i know it is very different. but in my case it has given me the type of environment that enables me to go from 34% to ~19% in a year. combined with the stigma of being philipino by appearance which as near as i can tell is simmilar to being mexican in burgerland. it has also made me learn enough chinese to challenge the racism head on which in turn causes a form of shock when they know they have been caught.

it sucks that it is the ways things are but for me it has opened my eyes to the shit hole society is in general. as i thaught only latin america and burgerland had this type of behavior but to find it here and in other countries has made me decide that i will become fit to stand above all the normies, coupled with an advanced degree to further set me apart from my peers i wish to stand above all the bulshit by being smarter, looking fitter and dressing nicer than anyone so i dont have to deal with societys shit.
/rant

like and subscribe for more!

Apart from the obvious loose skin issue, what are the actual problems that can occur when you lose weight too fast?

>>41767762
will be back later if you want to contine the discussion. have chinese exam...

>>41767795
nah...

How many calories are *really* in half a chicken with the skin on? Can't seem to find an online consensus.

>>41767919
Completely depends on how big the chicken is obviously.

>>41767922
3.5 lbs. Can't find any estimates though, and as much as I'd like to just make a chicken, tear it apart, and weigh every single little bit of it, I really don't want to.

>>41767138
>>41766545
is Kasandrinos okay? they're certified

>>41767929
>>41767919

My estimate is about 600 Calories for half a chicken

>>41767018
Yep. People also give up as soon as things get difficult because for some reason they expect to be instantly good at things. Mindset is the biggest difference between the average shitter and those with success.

>>41764902
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!

>>41767751
thx

>Try keto
>The food is so tasty
>Pack on 5 kg in 4 month
>Addicted to keto food
>Need to stay away from anything fatty or salty or I just snap .

>>41768093
Wish I loved keto food that much, I'd be able to stay on it.

>>41768112
I ended up going back to a regular diet but it's mostly complex carb and kinda low fat-ish , I now find the sugary taste repulsive .

>>41766784
>9 months and 150lbs later and I still get insatiable from time to time
never snapped though
...well.. not often

>>41761629
>start paleo diet last monday for the first time
>hey thats pretty good
>unrelated to the diet but realize im developing lesions all over my skin
>go to doctor today when I wake up and they've spread all over my body
>Almost pass out in urgent care and I think its from whatever disease I have
>its because I haven't been getting enough sugar in my system and my blood sugar was in the 40's

The disease is separate and I'm treating it now, I think I caught it when I was outside, but if it wasn't for the disease I would have passed out at home rather than the doctor.

How do you guys do paleo or keto diets without killing yourself?

I've lost 15 pounds in the past week doing what I'm doing, but I need to add more carbs or something.

>>41762146
Still going at 1500 lad. Will weigh myself by end of June and see if there has been any changes.

>>41764809
60 lbs. lord help me because this is the third time I'm trying to reach it

>>41768093
keto is perfect for me because i don't get that hungry and keto food is not bad

thinking of starting my own meme diet
it's the opposite of IF, you eat every 90 minutes
seven 200kcal snacks between 9am and 7pm
will report with results, and a book deal

>>41764809
10-15lbs to go. I'm at 235, down from 255.

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is it normal to feel a little hungry and have stomach rumblings before i go to sleep if I am at a !500 deficit for the day?

>>41768287
does it matter?

>>41762763
People just choose the shit quality food but this isn't a bad thing. I'm America, it's real easy to spot the lazy people who have no self respect and you shouldn't work with. In other countries, you might have to wait until they are closer and you can see their teeth or smell the beer at 10 in the morning. We've eliminated this as you can see the herd coming from miles off. It's convenient.

>>41768304
just wondering if anyone else felt that sometimes. I think my stomach is trying to jew me into the drive though

>>41768319
if you're eating all your calories in the evening then yes it's a little odd
if you aren't then no it isn't

>>41768287

starts to worry if in the morning your dick doesn't work, if you're a girl when you start skipping periods.
to solve this i suggest you eat the major of your calories at dinner

>>41768273
pretty sure that's already happened

>>41768333
diabetes? checked

>>41762834
I do not recommend tea while fasting.

The tannins in tea on an empty stomach always make me nearly barf.

>>41768141
I'm doing keto
how much are you eating? Make sure that you fully cook all your meats, make sure to get good leafy greens.
>15 lbs in a week
there's something else wrong, methinks

>>41768334
but I'm gonna give it a unique name and spam it here until people swear by it

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>>41761629
I want to start getting THICC. I've worked out for a long time and I've lost a lot of weight and put on considerable muscle but I've been avoiding squats. Can I do squats (and the rest of my legs) and deadlifts (and the rest of my back) on the same day?

>>41768358
I would save squats for days you are not working out your back.

I always do 10 or so to help wake myself up

just fucking stop eating shit
fat people just needs to stop fucking eating, that's the key to loose weight, no stupid low calories diet, just fucking zip your mouths, and use the stored fat to burn as calories and be alive with that, easy as that

you want fast results? you have to stop eating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Aw0P7GjHE&t=507s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E484qiQXxzM&t=463s

look yourselves at the mirror, and get disgusted by the big fat fuck you are, just like i did, and have your fucking will power over your hunger

it was hard, but i am doing it, and i am getting there doing that

lmao lost so much weight in these 19 days of PSMF that my pants are literally falling off me

>>41768358
If you wanna be thicc, start training like a powerlifter bud. Full-body training from here on out

>>41767329
fuck yes! Girls started approaching me and are generally much nicer. Also, its way easier to get girls. Im not even ottermode yet.

Everyone is nicer, life feels way better and socializing is actually fun now.

Joints feel better, no sweating anymore after walking a few stairs, no manboob hiding.

>>41768141
eat 30g of carbs a day. If you are really fat eat 60g of carbs and lower it when you stall.

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>ate some shortbread
I hate starting the day on a penalty

>>41768433
fasting rn on day 8 really good results

>>41763179
>milk is shitty anyway.


Must be why literally every mammal on earth produces it to keep their babies alive. Because it's so shitty.

>>41768899

are you a baby?

>>41762834
what supps are you taking? i'm curious because my best fast was 8 days and i only took a multi a day and 2500mg of fish oil (3 capsules thru the day)

I probably could've taken some more supps

>>41766436
Dont stand so bloody dumpy. Pull your shoulders back, stand up straight and tense whatever muscles you have.

>>41768333
Seconded. I eat

>>41764488
I was going for 7 days at first, I was on day 3. Got hit by a car while on my bike, nothing's broken but everything's bruised and moving hurts.

Fasting is fine, I was just wondering if it's gonna slow down/stop healing. I switched to keto for now to get some protons and micronutrients in and hopefully avoid the misery of the first two days once I get back to my fast, not sure if that's what i should have done.

>>41763429
I'm losing faith and have recently started eating dried fruits and cooking chocolate. I don't even fucking like chocolate.

>>41769551
Not gonna make it.

think the DNP is working, I'm fucking nackered 24/7
10 days will be it for me I think

>>41769592
no fucking shit that's why I'm giving up.

>>41763429

Muh depreshuns got really severe again and i spent a couple of weeks blackout drunk, no idea what i did for most of it. Stopped again now but i feel like I'm back at square one yet again

>>41769615
Enjoy being an unattractive sad cunt for the rest of your miserable life. Good news is that it won't be much of a life since you'll be dead at 45.

>>41767862
nobody?

>>41767862
relapsing is the biggest

>>41766887
>>41766959
I'm Midwest so I don't think I'll see Fort Sill. I'll make sure to add you though, invaluable for tips.

>>41767862
not making it
hair loss

>>41769708
>>41769729
I'm 72kg right and and want to be 55kg before my b'day.
So assuming I have the self control to stay on and lose 1kg a week for 17 weeks, nothing all that bad will happen apart from the obvious muscle loss and maybe some loose skin (used to weigh a lot more) ???

>>41769756
55kg?
I hope you are either a grill or a manlet.
What's your height and when is your b'day?

>>41769756
don't think you'll manage that 2bh, most fatties bite off more than they can chew
why don't you do it and see, prove me wrong

>>41769756
1kg a week is entirely possible and not unhealthy. The chances of you doing it are slim but it is manageable.

>>41769765
>What's your height and when is your b'day?
5'6
End of november

All right guys I fell for the meme and doing a waterfast. I try at least 1 day.
Only allowed water tea and coffee.

>>41767862

dick not working, being angry all the time, there's a lot of stuff.

>>41769756
1kg a week isn't that bad, you can probably do it.

I used to lose ~2,5kg a week, took supplements and exercised a lot. From the goal weight I'm gonna assume you're a grill - you might stop menstruating for the duration (and your TDEE will lower by however much it took to manage your reproductive system) and you might lose hair. A year after my retard diet half my hair is new and much shorter than the rest of it, sticking out all over the place.

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Once I'm at goal weight, how long should I weigh myself to make sure I don't fall into old habits?

>>41769853
Once every week should be enough.

>>41769853
forever seems reasonable

>>41769853
*I meant how often, not for how long

>>41769858
do you know if there would be some initial weight gain when going from a deficit to maintenance?
You are after all taking in more food than you're used to and the metabolism might need time to adjust
I don't know, data on this kind of stuff seems flimsy

>>41769924
>>41769924
>>41769924
New

This is probs a stupid question, but how do I know how many calories I am burning per day?

I am dieting (1200-1500 cals. per day) but I do no exercise at the moment (bogged down with uni), how do I know that my body is burning these calories off?

>>41769853
I weigh every single day. Don't understand the stigma against it.
Keeps me in check and I know day to day weight gain/lose doesn't matter. Better every day than a surprise at the end of a week.