Can someone explain why we need to eat food? Like, why not just

>>41750800
Do you really want to live in a world without food?

>>41750800
i would honestly love this as someone with ibs issues.

differences between energy (calories) and nutrients

>>41750847
yes?

>>41750898
Some of you guys take this fitness shit and lose your lives to it.


Eating a good meal is one of the great pleasures of life. You don't have to be some fat fuck constantly piling McDoubles down your chins to recognize that human beings evolved eating food for millions of years.

For that reason, it would result in you fucking up your digestive system.

>>41750847
Absolutely. Do you know how much time you waste eating food each day?

>>41750800
Because nobody would buy it. People like food. On second thought maybe NASA or the Army.

>>41750800
you have a strong case of the autism

eating and preparing food communally is literally THE reason we are human, society would not have evolved and would not continue if everyone autistically ate their roots and mammoth and/or nutrient dense pills in their little hobbit cave

>>41750918
t. fatty

>>41750800
So I looked into this years ago and liver pills, multivitamins/individual ones can actually get you everything you need. The problem is it ends up being a stomach full of pills so you will fuck your stomach lining up.

>>41751036
please hang yourself

I wish. I've never been a fan of food and eating.

I would eat everything in drink form if it wasn't fucking disgusting.

>>41750800
I remember reading some shit where this was attempted. While the body was nourished, weird shit started to happen with insulin and gut flora.

I don't remember where I saw it so it might be broscience garbage

>>41750918
there is nothing better than drinking water when you are dehydrated. is it because drinking water is an amazing activity or because you are fucking thirsty and need water? I'd rather just not be thirsty thanks.

>>41750800
Law of thermodynamics would require that pill to be quite large. Proteun is measures in grams. 200 grams of protein is a large volume.

Your best bet would be some kind of bar you could eat or maybe a shake. But not a pill.

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>>41751148
Not sure if troll. Sugar doesn't stop tasing good if you've had what you need, same goes for everything else.

>>41751006
You and your good points need to just move the fuck on

>>41751174
>Sugar doesn't stop tasing good if you've had what you need

except it literally does. eat a dozen doughnuts and tell me you think sugar tastes good afterward.

>>41751183
So sugar stops tasting good after you eat a ton of sugar.

Okay.

>>41750918
As a former skelly eating wasn't ever enjoyable for me, so please stop projecting mister fatty.

>>41751187
yes you fucking autist. it's why people get "tired" of food.

>>41751167
Fucking phone keyboard shit god damnit

>>41751197
Poor mad little brainlet.

>>41750924
30 minutes?
>le very effishunt redditor who has BETTER THANGS TA DO!

>>41751206
your ability to deny reality is impressive.

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>not eating a pill of uranium to have the calories to live on for life

>>41750800
Look up soylent. Basically the same concept except its a liquid vs a pill

>>41751215
Where do I get one of those?

>>41750918
wtf i hate skellies now

>>41751222
And enjoy your bitchtits

>>41751148
nah man, you can't separate the reward process from the aroma, the taste, the chewing etc. its pretty well ingrained at this point. even if you could survive on pills you would want to neck yourself after a few months. unless a few of thise pills are for the crazies

>>41751006
This. Fucking redditors want to make everybody robots. They want to eliminate food, sleep, driving, etc. Everything that has to be done manually they essentially want to get rid of because "it wastes time." Fuck off, life is boring if you have 24 hours of free time and nothing to do with it but """explore yor artsy side!!! xddd"

>>41751233
drinking water when you are super dehydrated is way more enjoyable than any meal you have ever had. enjoying food is literally nothing more than your body craving something it needs. you're absolutely wrong.

>>41750800
Take a 1600 calories a day diet as a reference, a very low one. Assuming you eat no fat (the most caloric-dense macronutrient), only carbs and protein, that would be at least 400 grams of carbs+protein to reach the caloric goal if you had a magic food that none of its weight is anything at all except for macronutrients.
>a 400g pill
You can't not eat, the closest you will ever get to that is consuming a liquid superfood containing needed macros, micros and minerals that is easy to chug down. Some companies are already trying to do it, but still failing for now.

>>41751242
don't you have some porn to be watching pleb?

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>>41751223
From the Syrians!

>>41751006
>you have a strong case of the autism
typical brain-dead follower piece of shit
has no argument so fires back with meme response

>>41751249
>enjoying food is literally nothing more than your body craving something it needs. you're absolutely wrong.
hard to argue with such a dumb statement. do you think fatties crave ice cream and soda because their body "needs" it? being aware of your cravings and having the ability to discern needs from wants is something a normal adult can do

>>41751255
Further elaborating from that, now assuming you eat no carbs, only protein and fat, and assuming you would live on a 80g of protein a day diet, that would require 142 grams of fat to reach the 1600 calories, in a total of 222 grams of food
>222g pill

>>41751286
again, nobody craves sugar after they just ate a dozen doughnuts and a gallon of ice cream. after you do that the average person would be repulsed by sugar. you're autistic for denying this obvious fact over and over again.

>>41751215
>not knowing the difference between calories and Calories
brainlets piss me off

>>41751242
Ever since switching to OMAD on a 23/1 IF, I do notice I have way more time.

>>41751297
but they still craved it after 6 donuts and a pint? did they still "need" more sugar then? I only posted twice so I wasnt ignoring your "simple facts" before but i can see why you've had this problem

>>41751322
your body thinks it "needs" as much fat, salt, and sugar as humanly possible. it's the only reason you enjoy eating which was my point.

>>41751255
I don't think they will ever actually suceed with that. I mean yeah we'llk probably have some food gel we can survive on without consuming anything else but it will be inferior to a good diet with actual food. There are many thousands compounds in plants and we don't even know all of them let alone the incredible number of interactions during metabolism. There is so much work to do in nutrition and even when it comes to well known stuff like soy we're still not entirely sure about the health implications.

>>41751338
well i agree with that. my counterpoint before this sidetrack was that it's unlikely a nutrient dense pill will satisfy those "body-perceived needs" because the physical act of eating is too intertwined in the brain's reward process. even if you swallow a pill with perfect macros and 2000kcal the brain will be like
>yo but what we gon eat tho?

>>41751379
I think you're right that a 2000kcal pill would not eliminate cravings but I think a 10000kcal pill would.

>>41751339
plus the added dimension of the gut microbiome. obscure bacteria in there breaking down godknowswhat that we dont even want or need but they help keep intestinal lining intact or fight off pathogens or do some kind of intestinal public service noone knows about

>>41751397
it would have to dissolve slowly or something, the body is not equipped to handle that much energy intake in a blink

>>41751413
Yeah it's way way way too early to be thinking about a "perfect solution".

And even if there will be one, it might utterly fuck our bodies to eat anything that's not that gel/shake/pill/whatever (which of course is good for the companies, basically having population relying on their product to survive, kinda like Monsanto).

>>41751189

Retard.

Human families and society practically evolved around getting/preparing/sharing meals.

You don't have a fucking Thanksgiving game a checkers.

>>41751165
God fucking dammit I love drinking water when I am thirsty as fuck. Its suddenly the most delicious substance on the planet. I swear to god, it feel like our own bodies are organisms of their own. I mean the whole concept of lifting. We are forcing our body to grow muscle/lose fat by our actions, but its the body who does it in response to the action, not to us.

Why would anybody worry about having a skeleton inside himself, when its your whole body who is an alien to you.

If you don't enjoy a good meal you're an outlier. A freak. Plain and simple.

>>41751183

We have hundreds of millions of fat people in the world that contradict that. I've had my share of binge eating sugary treats. It's not the sugar suddenly starting to taste bad that stops me, it's the massive blood sugar and insulin spike that makes me feel like I'm going to die.

>>41751311

The difference is 1000. so it's still 20 million kcals per gram.

Why don't we just pull a Chrono Trigger and use enertrons to satisfy us?

>>41750800
I wish we could tank ourselves with diesel and not eat at all. Energetically speaking just a third of a liter (or 1/10 of a gallon) would be enough to go hard an entire day!

>>41750918
fat fuck constantly piling McDoubles detected

>>41750847
A Brave new World?

>>41751167
you're bar. A gay bar
soylent is liquid

>>41751215
that's from fission. Imagine what would you get from fusion.

>>41751777
>>41751215
Alright, but how much protein?

i used to feed on joylent for one week
i was sated

but holy fuck i wanted some variety eventually

>>41750800
You idiot. Preparing and eating food is about way more than just the nutritional content. There's a huge social aspect to it, that if you removed food from the equation, human society would probably fall apart. Also there are emotional aspects to it, it's pleasurable, and sometimes comforting. You'd be taking away more than half of human experience.

>>41751269
Lybians, you nigger

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>>41750800
Who's that hipster chick?

>>41750800
>not enjoying good food
never gonna make it

>>41750800
>Like, why not just take a nutrient dense pill once a day where you pick the macros and calories via an app?

soylent.

>The pill eliminates all cravings for food

no.

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Tastes better than soylent
No soy.

>>41751859
this. And cooking is fun as hell too, and super satisfying! You get to create something with your own hands AND you get to eat tasty food

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>>41750800
>why not just take a nutrient dense pill once a day where you pick the macros and calories via an app?
Several reasons including but not limited to

>Most nutrients come from food
>Most nutrients aren't available from pills
>Most nutrients only work well when combined with others, typically found within the same foods
>Expense
>Most are labour intensive to produce, hence expense
>Missing out on other things like fibre and phytos etc
>Stuck being a manchild who doesn't cook

These are some of the many reasons people who buy soylent are almost exclusively autistic manchildren who don't want to cook for themselves

>>41750800
>food has fiber
>food tastes good

>>41752141
>people who buy soylent are almost exclusively autistic manchildren who don't want to cook for themselves

b-but muh active fast-paced lifestyle REEEEEE

Let's assume the research has been done and this is viable. Hope you don't mind paying $10,000 a month for you food pills.

>>41751596
No dumbass. calories are just a measure of thermal energy. Calories are a measure of food calories that are digestible by the human body. Nigger.

>>41752447

The small calorie or gram calorie (symbol: cal) is the approximate amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water by one degree Celsius at a pressure of one atmosphere.[1]
The large calorie or kilogram calorie (symbol: Cal), also known as the food calorie and similar names,[2] is defined in terms of the kilogram rather than the gram. It is equal to 1000 small calories or 1 kilocalorie (symbol: kcal).[1]

>>41751742
upvoted! TIL!

>>41752478
fuck off faggot and stop being right

>>41751494
Why are you so angry that some people would rather not have to spend time cooking and eating food?

What is wrong with you?

>>41751786
>not counting protons

>>41750800
Because that would not be healthy? No such pill exists, or could exist

How to ruin the economy even further. 101

>>41752590
BUT IT'LL HELP PRODUCTIVITY AND WE DONT HAVE TO WASTE TIME PREPING FOOD AND AND AND WE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT EATING AND ITLL ACTUALLY HELP THE ECONOMY BECAUSE EMPEROR MUSK WILL SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT AND ITS PC AND ITS EVIRONMENTASLLY FRIE NFDLY AND IT GT JK;TBLT GLOBAL SLVO,FV' WARMGING ANSD C02 EMISONZ AND AND EMISKODN V MUSK TESLA ELECTRIC CARS SELF JRFNVK FNV DRIVING EHEEKP EEEEE

>>41751786
all of them protons

>>41752633
For selected few. Already there are no jobs for people with 80IQ and under in the western world. And that's average in Africa.

>>41752819
DOWNVOTED

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>>41750800
>Why we need to eat food
That's a natural imperative.
>why not just take a nutrient dense pill once a day where you pick the macros and calories via an app
There is no demand for it, and we don't actually know everything about the stomach. More and more studies are coming about the importance of the stomach, putting it on par with the brain for many many body functions, so that would be very complicated to emulate.
But let's say scientists succeed in that endeavor. What happens economically speaking ? Who owns the plants to make these magic pills ? Private interest ? The State ?
What happens when war break out, theses plants are bombed, and suddenly there are no more farmers to plow the field.
And that's not even to consider the simple pleasure eating and tasting food provides to humans.
Humans made food as such because they wanted to, not because they needed to.
Some foods are born of need (cheese, cured meat), but they dated back thousands of years

>>41750918
>human beings

That's why I'm leaving humanity behind, bruh

>>41750918
This man is correct, eating can be both nutritious AND delicious. Enjoying the pleasures and sensations in ones life is not a crime.

>>41751958


got you, famalam

https://www.instagram.com/jessmclements/?hl=en

>>41750800
show said pill, dumb ass

>>41751167
not if the pill is dense af

this sounds like marxism

>>41752956
you sound like such a fucking pseud...
also

>descartes

all potential credibility lost.

>>41750800
As others have rightly pointed out, it's due to mass.

A pill with the right amounts of macronutrients would work just fine in theory, but it's currently physically impossible to compress food that densely, plus even if we could I doubt our digestive systems are designed to process it. There's a reason we chew our food.

>>41750918
Lmao what is it with fatties and their belief that getting a dopamine hit from eating food is the most important thing in their life.

>>41750847
Yes

>>41751549
>an organism is an organism
>I swear to god

Yah don't say??

>density of protein is 1.35g/mL
>a 100g protein pill would be 74mL
>average volume of an apple is 78mL

why not just swallow whole apples instead of eating food /fit/?

>>41755411
I bet your mom could

>>41752524
most skellies eat like shit. mcdonald's happy meals & half a bag of chips and act like they eat so much. they are as bad as fatties who eat too much, actually, with the consistent lying to themselves.
meals have been a past time for all of humanity, of every culture.

>>41750960
I'd be great for reasons you mentioned, plus I'd buy it in a fucking heartbeat, preparing food feels like such a waste of time to me

>>41751859
>>41752090
Op said a pill that you can choose how many calories so just make a pill thats like half of what you need then cook some food or go out and eat.

>>41755329
>i enjoy eating food
>XDD u must be an obese fat fuck
what

not sure if you realize this or not but the vast VAST majority of the planet enjoy eating a nice meal. fucking autists on this board, holy shit

>>41755329
>admitting you enjoy food
>must be fat

The fact that many in this thread are so hostile about enjoying food and wish they lived in a world where we didn't have to eat just tells me how poor your self control is. If you actually had the ability to mind what you eat then food wouldn't bother you and you would easily be able to decide what you can eat and what is too much.

Instead you just want to take away something that is enjoyable simply so you have less to be tempted by.

TLDR; You're probably going to be a fat fuck by the time you're 50 because you can't control yourself. Whereas I can allow myself a good meal now and then without becoming unhealthy.

>>41750800
Idk man, if it could eliminate cravings for food then maybe but desu eating good food would still be something to do

>>41751110
How can u not like food

>>41751215
I ate one of these a couple of years ago and am still fucking stuffed.

>>41750800
>why not just take a nutrient dense pill
Because
1. That would be expensive as fuck to make
2. It would be expensive as fuck to research and develop

>>41750800
>The pill eliminates all cravings for food
You have no understanding of how your body works

>>41752447
i love when wannabe brainlets get btfo lmao

>>41750918
>evolved for millions of years and STILL need to eat
Humans are pathetic.

>>41750800
You'd piss away all the nutrients before absorbing them if it was only once a day

>>41750800
apart from the cost, fact that people like eating etc. we still likely don't know all the things we need to survive...iirc things like selenium and chromium were only recently discovered to be essential minerals.

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>>>41751165
>I swear to god, it feel like our own bodies are organisms of their own
>Why would anybody worry about having a skeleton inside himself, when its your whole body who is an alien to you.

Jayden Smith pls go

>>41751110
Try Soylent. Not the stuff you buy, make your own. You can make some pretty tasty recipes desu.

I did Soylent for several months straight (80-85% of my diet was Soylent) and it was pretty great. Only stopped because it worked out to be a little under $5 a day, whereas now I'm eating for a week and a half on $15.

>>41751226
2 things.

1- to my knowledge (and I may be wrong) various studies are coming out that show that soy won't actually give you bitch tits.

2- you can make your own Soylent w/o the soy.

>>41750847
Maybe

>>41757246
Can you tell me how do you manage to eat on $15 for week and a half? Like what kind of stuff do you buy/cook?

>>41750918
I hate eating, i find it boring as fuck. So taking the time to cook something feels like a complete waste of time.

>>41757246
How do you make your own?

>>41750800
Why even have bodies? Why not be a brain in a vat experiencing a simulated reality?

In fact, why even simulate a reality? Why not just pump your brainvat full of endorphins and experience an eternity of thoughtless bliss?

At the intersection of Heaven and Earth lives Man, and he is a fool if he forgets either.

>>41750895
Same. I'm considering trying Soylent but it's expensive.

>>41755717
My brother is thin and eats nothing but shit. Fast food, soda, iced tea, sodium packed frozen dinners and shitty snack foods. Hopefully it catches up with those fuckers someday

>>41757888
DIY: https://www.completefoods.co
People looking for an alternate to Soylent: https://www.blendrunner.com

>>41757246
I've been using a euro version of soylent called Jimmy Joy / plennyshakes /joylent. Cheaper and macros more suited for a lean bulk. Seriously, this shit is revolutionary in terms diet-planning. I add one cooked meal per day to my shakes to bring up the calories and protein, doing this I now save a ton of time, money and am never straying further than 50 calories from my target.

Join the future, stop eating.

>>41751223
t. smoothskin

>>41751397
Yeah thanks science guy, valuable insights spewing forth here

>>41758865
You're still eating you sperg.

Soylent is fine as a portion of a rounded diet, but if you make the mistake of believing it's safe, long term, to base your dietary intake on a single processed product, you deserve whatever long term consequences that probably await you down the track.

Holy shit I underestimate the retardation of this board, autists trying to act like people who enjoy food are inferior. Not enjoying a good tasty meal is like having sex and not cumming.

Low fibre diets increase risk of colon cancer significantly. If I remember right, it's because dead cells are not being flushed out.

Other than that, nutrients are nutrients, but like everyone said eating is more than nutrition.

>>41750800
You exhale 200+ grams of your mass each day, so you need to eat that at a minimum regardless of the form if you want to keep mass. I don't know about you, but I don't want to swallow a pill of the necessary size for that.

>>41758957
I'm obviously still consuming food yes. I really doubt I'm missing anything at all, exactly what do you think there is missing from my autism diet as compared to the regular chicken rice and broccoli diet?

I did also say that I eat one regular meal a day. As a young single man with an interest in fitness, most of the meals that I had previously were not exactly extremely enjoyable nor were they social events, they were strictly for nutrition, same as now. I'd wager that having a normal meal twice a week or so, would remove the risk for any negative long-term effects.

I'm not OP nor am I fat or have ever been fat.

I've wanted this pill for the simple reason of I don't like eating. Everday I have to force feed my self to the point of nausea. Eating at a calorie surplus is very hard for me, let alone at a maintanence. If all I had to do was swallow a pill, drink a smoothie, or munch on a small bar to meet my calories and nutrion requirements, it would increase my quality of life by a fucking lot.

Why wouldn't you want optimal nutrition in a small, simple food? Why do you want to gather hundreds of ingredients and spend tens of hours preparing the food every week? When in instead you could take 2 minutes out of your day popping a pill a couple times a day. I'm not lazy, I grill, bake, and stir fry a variety of meals. But it is insanely tedious to always have a timer clicking over your head telling you if you don't stuff your face everday three times a day you're going to feel like shit and will die.

Nobody is saying you have to stop eating, you can do both. Nobody is forcing you to eat the pills. You can still have culturally eaten meals by just not taking the pill for the day and eat a meal at thanksgiving. The economy would be disrupted, sure, but we should never not progress because of jobs. I don't understand the backlash from this obviously good idea.

>>41750800
>Can someone explain why we need to have sex? Like, why not just use your hand once a day where you pick the hot/sexy/cute chick from a search engine? The porn eliminates all cravings for sex and makes it so that you could be effortlessly laid.