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I relapsed last night and smoked like 5 cigarettes. I was out at the bar with my Buddha bros. We hit a few dabs at the house first, then hot boxed a blunt in the car on the way to the bar. Then I start chugging beer at the bar and got cross faded. We were having a great time and this insanely hot girl in a dress was there I spilled spaghetti everywhere. Then after 7 whole days of NoCig my dumb ass starts smoking cigarettes. They're so good but so bad, Jesus H Christ. I woke up this morning with stuffed sinuses and a dry throat. How do I combat this evil plant /fit/? I'm going to go clean my sinuses with a neti pot now. Fucking shit mane.
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>cigarettes
>bad
Not gonna make it.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17163954
>Smoking men had 15% higher total and 13% higher free testosterone levels compared with men who never smoked
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>hot boxing with your 'Buddha bros'
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I've never found cigs to be addictive but then I only smoke them if offered while I'm drinking.
Reminds me of a joke.
>why do women play with their hair at traffic lights?
>because they don't have balls to scratch.
The point of the joke OP is that you are using them as a distraction to your many faults ans failures. What you need to do instead is go on hormone tablets and skip posting your progress right to the end where you have cute little tits, a nice, shaven pink little butthole, small and smooth feminine penis but most importantly - hair to play with.
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>>41740277
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>>41740277
Is 15% testosterone worth sacrificing your heart and lungs? Plus you smell like shit all the time to non smokers.

>>41740294
It's great fun! Zen blunt.

>>41740297
What if I have long hair and balls? I'll scratch my balls while flipping my hair and I don't even need to take pills!
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>>41740250
>7 days
>getting drunk
>smoking weed

Never gonna make it you degenerate normie cuck
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>>41740250
What the fuck is wrong with you? If you smoke weed you know how fucking pointless and inferior smoking tobacco is. It tastes shit, it smells shit and it doesn't chill you out. You waste pot money on tobacco money. You ruin your lungs smoking 10 cigs a day that stop you enjoying a joint or two as much. If you're going to have a vice, stick to ONE and make it worthwhile!
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>>41740277
Men who have more testosterone are more likely to smoke you fucking mong. It's not actually raising their test.

low test betas can smoke all they want they won't suddenly change their DNA.
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>>41740389
nah, data suggests smoking can increase test

you know why? your body is trying to fight back against the shit killing it. it's not really a good thing, lol
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>>41740389

www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/amp/smoking-permanently-scars-your-dna-study-finds-n651471&ved=0ahUKEwjV8rfvlLHUAhVPO7wKHUhJAb0QFggrMAI&usg=AFQjCNGaX282Vt2-jwI9ZsoVQrNve2tLsw

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/03/dna-study-lays-bare-devastating-damage-caused-by-smoking&ved=0ahUKEwjV8rfvlLHUAhVPO7wKHUhJAb0QFghAMAU&usg=AFQjCNG4iuUxGNWeBXcwr2oE2_Ct5qwiaA
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>>41740297
Oh you're that cunt friend that always steals other people's cigarettes when you're out together, and then claims the moral high ground because "I don't smoke". Fuck off and buy your own tabs you cheap piece of shit
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>>41740364
>>41740389
>>41740429
ITT: non-smoking beta """""males"""""

>doesn't do cardio
>pretends to care about muh lungs
I bet I would outperform each of you. Also if you're THAT worried just use chewing tobacco, snuff, or sometimes this sometimes that.

>Men who have more testosterone are more likely to smoke you fucking mong. It's not actually raising their test.
>You mong
Read the study I posted "you mong". Also Testosterone is not 100% DNA settled. Literally everybody's test level changes with diet, stress, other hormones, physical activity, cold showers no fap (just a joke) etc
"You mong"

If you don't want to use tobacco just don't nobody cares but don't make up lies to justify stuff you are obviously insecure about
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>>41740452
I don't smoke though and find smokers to be very weak willed people. They are the same people who blame everyone else, even me, for their shitty fuck ups and problems. I van already tell that you have an addictive personality just by your inherent hostility towards someone who doesn't. Must suck to be you. Bet it's not even your fault is it? Maybe you sharing your smokes is you sharing your misery.
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>>41740473
>just use chewing tobacco, snuff,

yeah, just use the stuff instead that gives cancer at three times the rate of smoking
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>>41740489
?
It's the chemicals in the smoke and the smoke itself that is harmful. Kind of like how weed smokers claim
>its healthy brah
It's not healthy unless you vaporize or ingest the shit.
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>>41740473
I run a 5K at least twice a week sometimes 3 times. But on average I only smoke probably 10 cigs a week.
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>>41740250
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>>41740631
That man is the hero the West needs but will never get.
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>>41740389
Nicotine inhibits aromatase, the main precursor of estrogen. Most certainly, this decreases estrogen in the body, and probably has an effect on testosterone levels. Ever wonder why women who smoke a lot age so terribly? Tobacco literally fucks with their estrogen levels. Yet, it is beneficial for men in reasonable quantities.
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>>41740250
Not even trolling, but you just sound like a total complete collosal faggot.
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>>41741203
Could I get the gum to avoid emphazima
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>>41741287
I use the gum, don't know about test but fucking incredible for cutting.
Plus masseter gains..
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>>41741297
It curbs hunger?
I'm sold
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ENT here.
Looking forward to seeing all you lads later at the cancer clinic.
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>>41741339
yee nicotine is solid appetite suppressant, plus I think chewing gum in and of itself may have some sort of effect (possibly bro science)
nicotine is also meant to be good at increasing catecholamines thus good for stubborn body fat

I think where they're designed for heavy smokers they also have some sort of strong tooth whitening compound in them so make teeth look whiter ;)
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>>41741339
>>41741368
https://www.nationalelfservice.net/publication-types/randomised-controlled-trial/nicotine-replacement-gum-found-to-improve-tooth-staining-caused-by-smoking/ bit of a sketchy source but this shows nico gum helps with stained teeth (fyi i've never smoked, but drink lots of black coffee so still helpful)
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>>41741340
Wouldn't the cancer specialist be the one to see them?
Don't you have a kid with sniffles to prescribe antibiotics to so the mom will leave your office even though it just helps create immunity?
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>>41741228
Everyone is entitled to their opinion fellow human.

;)
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>>41740250

>Buddha bros
>We hit a few dabs
>got cross faded
>NoCig

No anon, you ARE the cancer
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Today is my 18th day without cigarettes. How did I do it? I haven't drank any alcohol in 18 days.
So I get to look better, feel better and now have $500 more in my pockets.
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stopped smoking weed/cigs/drinking 29 days ago and havent had an urge since

it is very easy to quit but it requires a lot of strategy
>dont drink because that will cause you to smoke cigs/ dont smoke weed because that will also lower your willpower to decline a cig
>dont hang out with your cigarette smoking friends untill you feel you can say no when someone offers a cigarette
>write down every single downside to smoking cigarettes and take a look at the 20+ reasons list you just wrote down

ask me anything btw
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>>41740521
Are you saying chewing tobacco doesn't give you mouth cancer?
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>>41741287
vaping mine be okay, but you'll look like you're wearing a fedora even if you're not
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>>41741515
Compared to smoking, it doesn't really. There's about a dozen carcinogens in dip, a few thousand in cigarettes upon combustion. Look at Sweden, highest rate of snus (steam-cured dip) use per capita In Europe, lowest incidence of mouth cancer. Smoking tobacco is more harmful in every way than dipping it.

Granted, American dip is smoke-cured, rather than steam-cured like snus, so it does have more TSNAs (carcinogens) in it, but it is still far and away less carcinogenic than cigarettes.
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>>41740489
That's bullshit, see >>41741968
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>>41741417
>t. someone with no knowledge of medicine

ENT docs can be cancer specialists, anon
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>>41741203
Can someone back this up? Is smoking raising my gains? I smoke like two times a week. Would that be considered a "reasonable quantity" ?
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>>41741453
Haha fair enough. Where's your sense of humor??? Lol

>>41741457
>>41741477
Your both right and congratulations on your progress and willpower gains. I will try the writing down negatives method, seems legit to me.

Sincerely, OP
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>>41740294
>not hot boxiing with halal homies
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>>41741968
solution, use swedish snus to maximize test and appetite suppression gainz, while minimizing tumor gainz
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>>41740250
I smoke Spirits too anon, it's not too bad infrequently but try to give yourself allowances if control is hard atm.

I used to use a small dish or container like the altoids mints container and put maybe two cigarettes and a little weed in the their for my "daily" and then "weekly" allowance.

Try to smoke a tiny bit of ganja when you crave a cig, they're never worth smoking more than one either.

Realizing what you've done and what you want to accomplish is always the first step. Also drink plenty of water, dabs are like alcohol when it comes to dehydration for me.
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