What kind of skills and stats does a guy need minimum to defeat

a gun

>>41738407
idk, if u dont need to be in the same weight class u should just turbo bulk but do GPP every day so u stay fit and dont burn out quickly in the fight, for the fight just go for grapples and youll win

What actually happens if a fighter attacks you for the fuck of it, irl? Is their career kill?

>>41738407
I'm a guy, I win at life by default

>>41738407
She's like 5'7" just don't be a manlet ND you'll be fine.

Ronda could probably take floyd mayweather in a fight, so you need some skills.

>>41738463
Aggravated assault and a felony

>>41738505
Is that bad or? Can they continue like before?

>>41738492
Could probably win over mcgregor too.

>>41738463
War Machine did this, he now has life in prison.

>>41738535
He's a man though. What about women? Didn't Ronda abuse her former bf?

A normal rugby tackle would do

>>41738522
ask War Machine

>>41738407
Ronda Rousy is like 60kg lean 20% bf. If you're like 75kg at 10% you've got like 20kg of muscle on her. Learn some basic grappling and she's got no chance.

>>41738545
>Didn't Ronda abuse her former bf
Damn, you're right....

How come no one gives a shit about this? Literally? What happens when she rapes someones 5 year old?

>>41738492
> Ronda could probably take floyd mayweather in a fight
>people actually believe this

>>41738650
Why couldn't she?

>>41738545
Ronda also cucked another woman. Literally.

>>41738670
because it goes back to the whole conversation of grappling vs striking.

it boils down to whether the grappler can close the distance before the striker takes them down

mayweather is one of the most tactical boxers out there. he wouldnt be stupid enough to let himself get caught in grappling range, even at the expense of prolonging the fight.

plus as a male, he's got a better muscle mass:weight ratio.

>>41738698
She could take mcgregor and klitschko brothers, though.

>>41738728
i dunno.
mcgregor's got decent punch power for his size. if he gets lucky she's out in one.

dunno about klitschko.

i dont follow mma much in general. boxing is a much more fascinating sport. lots more planning and strategy as opposed to fancy moves

>>41738740
She could probably take her current 6'7 fighter bf, though.

>>41738728
>>41738740
Are you two guys fucking retarded? Rousey would get knocked the fuck out before even the first clinch attempt. Chad fucking Mendes took down McGregor for 2 round and still got TKO'ed. Like Rousey has any fucking chance to even clinch McGregor

In fighting men are seriously just superior so stop this bullshit

>>41738756
dunno.
is her bf a striker or grappler?

grappler probably. striker depends on style.
if he outboxes then maybe not.
if hes an infighter he's fucked.

>>41738763
Ronda would easily win over Chad Mendes, don't even imply.

>>41738407
You need to at least have done some BJJ or wrestling so you don't get into an easily predictable grip. Besides that just use your superior strength.

>>41738765
He looks like ogre.

>>41738775
Are you having a fucking giggle mate?

>>41738784
Nah, I agree with him.

Don't underestimate women.

>>41738784
There are some really strong female powerlifters. Almost as strong as the strengest male.

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>>41738794
>>41738775
I am being baited so hard it kinda hurts

>>41738805
Why are you afraid of women? Do strong women, physically and mentally, emasculate you?

>>41738522
Lawyer here. Generally assault charges depend on the amount of damage. If he caused permanent, disfiguring damage, that would be First Degree Assault in my state. If the damage was only temporary, like being knocked unconscious or a broken bone it would be Third Degree. If you're curious, Second Degree requires use of a weapon, but even threatening someone with a weapon counts. If all he does is inflict some bumps and bruises it would just be a misdemeanor with a max 90 day sentence. As for the guy's career, I don't know. Probably looking at a prison sentence, or at least quite a bit of time in the county jail.

>>41738827
nigga ronda was suicide mode after her first loss

>>41738827
Yes my penis shrinks into my body forming a vagina whenever I think of capable women. The mere thought frightens me.

>>41738830
How come ronda faced no consequences for domestic violence against her ex?

>>41738765
Not sure if taking the bait on purpose

Women are better than men, so you need a lot of practice. 5 years minimum.

>>41738407
I'm pretty sure any professional fighter could

Males are so ridiculously superior physically speaking its almost moot to ask.

>>41738922
>Males are so ridiculously superior physically speaking its almost moot to ask.
No they're not. Holly or Ronda could kick the average guys ass.

>>41738942
Obviously. That why I said professional fighter, not an average chump.

>>41738961
Men btfo

>>41738857
I don't watch mma, so I'm not familiar with the story, but most of the time when domestic assault charges are dismissed it's because the victim refuses to cooperate with the prosecution or has changed their original story.

>>41738545
If the police didnt see the incident or the person doesn't report it at the timeframe of the incident so police can get records or bruises and damage or whatever, then they might not be able to go on with the investigation due to lack of evidence beyond a story. Also if it went past the statute of limitations for the crime, and it's some Rousey did and the person came out anonymously well after the fact, then nothing is really going to happen. Typically those rules don't get bent unless we are talking rape of a female. Then we go digging 40 years into the past with no forensic evidence support and judge based on feelings.

>>41738407
Basic defense against BJJ/wrestling stuff and a decent punch. You should weigh more and be at least the same height so it wouldn't be easy for them to take you down. If they don't land any super-lucky punches on you you'll win every time.

>>41738942
In a stage fight where the man would pull his punches out of fear of being labelled a woman beater, sure. In a real fight where the man has legitimate reason to take her down? Average /fit/ guys would beat her senseless. She tries to go for her judo takedown, gets punched in the head, dies.

>>41738728
She 135lbs. Mayweather is 151lbs. Don't let Rouseys imaged frame on TV fool you. She isn't some hulking monster that can send people flying or squeeze them into submission. She's a small woman with a bit more muscle than the other small women she competes against. Grappling won't end well for her unless she's magically got some crazy output for what little total muscle mass she actually has, and that's even if she can get the fight to grappling and not get struck down before then.

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Can someone explain to me why fighters like Conor, Ronda, etc gets hyped up so much? How do you qualify them as the best? I realise that there are different weight classes, is it best in their respective class?

Who is the best figther in the world right now?

I'm a total noob, btw.

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>>41739066
But men are sissies these days.

>>41739278
That's why I'm convinced modern men would lose in a stage fight. They lack the psychology to deliver a beat down unless pushed over the edge. It would take a REAL fight to shift them into man gear.

>>41739069
She's 135 dry maybe. But Rhonda normal weight is more like 145- 150. When she was in the Olympics she was like 160 lbs. Rhonda is no lightweight

>>41738857
Men are usually too embarrassed about being beaten by a girl to press charges. Same thing with rape, male ego can't handle reporting it happening to them

>>41738922
>Males are so ridiculously superior physically speaking its almost moot to ask.
Sure in general males are stronger, but it is far from moot point. A small azn guy could get torn to shreds by a barbarian looking 6ft Nordic girl. Physically superior women do exist, it's just not the norm

>>41739214
>Ronda
One of the first females that had more consecutive wins after she took the stage and accepted more challenges. beyond that it was just UFC needing a female mascot.

>>41739027
>Typically those rules don't get bent unless we are talking rape of a female. Then we go digging 40 years into the past with no forensic evidence support and judge based on feelings
They dig in the past for females because there's thousands of rape kits that were NEVER processed like they should've been. They're digging because the law genuinely fucked up and ignored them getting raped. Shut like that is why some rape isn't reported- why bother if the cops won't even bother processing evidence? Why relive the shit experience for nothing?

>>41739358
>why relive the shit experience for nothing?
Well it might not really be reliving it if it didn't happen in the first place...
Also could you mind linking to evidence that's there's been thousands of rape kits which have never been processed as they should have been? If the kits were made, and things such as the swabs still intact, then processing it even several years later can still realistically occur. My major problem is when we go digging back and deal with alleged rapes by people who never filed a report over 10 years ago. I'm not saying that all late claims are false, but I do have a problem with the fact that people don't report in a timely fashion when we all know that such a crime is a very time sensitive issue and that feelings or embarrassment needs to be put aside if you want resolution. This has been preached in our society for decades at this point. Things like this make cases even harder for people who have actually been raped in the present that try to resolve their situations and further stigmatize the experience.

I mean imagine getting stabbed. You don't go to the police 30 years later and say Joey Stabbo did it long after your wounds have healed. That's a damn near impossible case to close and it's not going to benefit you in any way. If you truly wanted closure you should have done it within the long ass period the statute of limitations offers you.

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>>41739288
>lack the psychology to deliver a beat down
This is so so soooooooooooooo fucking important in a fight.

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>>41738556
Shes a black belt in Judo. Your fucked if you try that.

>>41738407
>What would it take for me to beat an athletic 5'8 ~150lb woman?

If you can't beat Ronda or Holly untrained, go ahead and turn in your man card.

>>41739536
She's a FEMALE black belt in judo. That's not the same thing as a male black belt, nigger.

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What's a decent height for fighting? None-meme answer, please.

>>41739670
You're a decent height for fighting anyone up to 2-3 inches taller as long as you can somewhat match in weight and reach.

>>41739670
IRL or competition?
IRL the bigger the better up to like 6'6 or so
competition it literally doesn't fucking matter because >weight divisions, reach and relative weight is king there
the main kickers (lel) are weight and reach really, height is just an easy way to get both

>>41739688
So a 6'0 guy can fight up to 6'3? 6'3 dude can fight up to 6'6?

>>41739698
Both, really.

Could Conor take on a 6'3 fighter?

>>41739670
I know most people won't believe this but one of the managers at my organisation is 5'4" and can beat anyone in a fight. He is an absolute ninja at BJJ.

Seriously. I saw a 6'5" soldier getting beaten up by him.

>>41739670
Depends on how you want to fight breh

>>41739645
We are talking about the average /fit/izen here not a 4th dan black belt.

She would put 99% of /fit/ on their ass.

>>41739745
/fit/ doesn't even lift

>>41739717
I don't follow competitive martial arts much but I definitely remember seeing fair fights with those kind of height differences. Weight and reach are more important. Of course height usually correlates with reach, and weight is just a matter of nutrition. Typically you'll see people fighting opponents of very close heights.

>>41738433
This and only this

>>41739776
Don't you also have to be able to move that weight efficiently without getting fatigued after 5 sec

>>41739745
If the average cross/fit/ter is given a few weeks to practice throwing punches and evading grappling - most of the effective gains would be cardio fitness desu - then he would absolutely demolish female "fighters".

Reminder that 15 year old boys demolish female " professional football players". Women really are that much weaker.

>>41739717
depends on the fighter's division
Cain Velasquez would probably kill him and he's 6'1, most of the MMA heavyweights are between 6' and 6'4 and ~240 lbs, he'd stand literally no chance against someone trained in MMA and nearly 100lbs heavier.
>>41739730
people pull back dude, if you get into an actual fight one hit from a muscled 200+lbs guy is enough to KO you effectively, doesn't even have to be the head
I saw a judo black belt literally shake another judo black belt like a fucking towel with a ~40lbs difference, it's fucking insane what kind of change it makes
>>41739794
doesn't matter if you can KTFO or force submission by sheer overwhelming power

>>41739828
>Reminder that 15 year old boys demolish female " professional football players". Women really are that much weaker.
Source

>>41739838
lul
http://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/
http://www.dailywire.com/news/6072/australias-national-womens-soccer-team-lose-7-0-amanda-prestigiacomo
same in hockey, athletics, volleyball, whatever fucking physical sport you want
women compete on the level of ~15-16yo old boys at best

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>>41738407
Just fuckin talk to them. Theyre famous now so theyre probably intimidating normies and are getting lonely as fuck. You could be chubby fat and still get a handy from rousey if youve got the game

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>>41739877
Jesus Christ

>>41738433
fpbp

>>41739881
They seems to be mentally and emotionally weak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwBJ_-P35Pg

Same with Ronda who wanted to commit suicide after losing to Holly. She literally hid for several months.

>>41739881
>You could be chubby fat and still get a handy from rousey
What does this mean?

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>>41739895
a reminder
the best trained (and likely roided) women have about on par grip strength with an average male (grip strength heavily correlates with upper body strength)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17186303
women are hilariously weak and /fit/ would know that if they actually touched one
anyone actually lifting could probably beat up most female fighters from the sheer power difference alone

>>41738545
I know most people would like to blame muh feminism for the discrepancies, but what happened to War Machine is an anomaly and not the rule. What actually happens when an athlete who makes a lot of money and lives in the USA assaults someone is:
1) blame illegal drugs
2) not go to jail just because
3) go to rehab for a month
4) still earn billions
Unless you bite off someone else's ear. Oh wait, Mr. Tyson is still a billionarie.

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>>41739975
the 4chan updated version

>>41739984
He raped her too. I just don't get why nothing, literally nothing whatsoever, happened to Ronda when she abused another person.

>>41739069
I find that hard to believe. I'm no lifter but through my occupation I have noticeably more muscle than the average woman. I'm 5ft and a good 10pbs heavier than that. I'm sure she's not that short and someone who actually trains would have far more bulk/mass. I do think most women only stand a chance grappling though. She has some skinny little legs for a fighter and whilst I could land a very painful kick with my amazon thighs, the majority of fights with men (I get targeted a lot...) I have won with grappling/submissions. When I was 15/16 a 22 year old man thought he'd swing at me unprovoked, so I got him in a headlock and slammed him. I doubt any punches would have done much. I needed my full body to unbalance him.

>>41739984
>Unless you bite off someone else's ear. Oh wait, Mr. Tyson is still a billionarie.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/mike-tyson-net-worth/
>???

>>41738407
size advantage and enough training for low level pro fighting or high level amateur fighting

Who do professional fighets fight like 2 - 3 times a year? Doesn't sound like much.

>>41739745
>a dude with some knowledge in grappling and with 44lbs of muscle on Ronda suddenly became your average /fit/izen
Moving Goal Posts, the Post

>>41740048
preparation and recovery

>>41740064
Do they change fighting style for each? Not everything ofc.

>>41739975
>that one 40 something woman, who gripped more than 100kg
Noice
Also, does this at all correlate with how much weight you can grip on a deadlift without aids? Being able to deadlift 155kg without hook grip or straps, should put me in one of the highest percentile, the same goes for most gym goers.

>>41739953
gina carano is so fucking fine jesus

>>41739670
Your height.
Adjust your fighting style for your range. I.e. smallies focus on bjj

>>41740028
Yeah, but that's because he's a nigger who lost all his money to his friends, drinking and gambling. The fag didn't even put a little bit of money on the side to save.

>>41740080
mostly it's recovery, a drawn-out fight fucks you up and a concussion alone can delay sparring and even training for weeks
preparation is mostly focusing on the opponent's style and how not to get rekt too easily
>>41740096
obviously, grip strength is a big factor in diddies
as for the rest skim the study, trained men are at the top very fast, top men are hilariously above everyone
that one woman is outlying so hard that it's probably an error of some sort though

>>41739984
Tysons not a billionaire, and don't try and act like he was never punished for his sins accordingly. The fact that he is still marketable is not his fault, nor should he not be marketable. If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at yourself and your friends for watching things like the Hangover.

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How come fighters look dyel yet so dangerous.

>>41740288
pound for pound strength and excellent endurance make for a great fighter. excess weight can slow you down (and rarely do show muscles contribute to your ability to move in a ring, so all that extra mass is just weight to move around), put strain on your heart, and forces your muscle cells to work with less oxygen as the same amount of oxygen needs to be displaced over a much larger body.
soldiers, slaves, and professional fighters are all a lot less muscular than hollywood would make it out to be. only recently, and with the help of modern science, could fighters afford to be lean and still maintain a high level of competitiveness.
>source: martial arts fag turned lifter turned uni brah

>>41740373
is lifting a meme

>>41740418
no, having too little muscle is a bigger problem than having a little too much. strength, both relative and absolute, contribute to your ability to perform in a fight. additionally, general strength is simply useful day to day. however, if your primary concern is to become a better fighter than there are better things to focus on than getting hyooge.
most, if not all, pro fighters lift regularly. however, technique work and cardio/GPP is more important so lifting is done afterwards or progress is put as a lower priority. lifting can improve muscular endurance, explosiveness, correct muscular imbalances, and improve posture, so it's very helpful for anyone who is regularly active.
lifting is to fighting like it is to a healthy life. it's not the only component, and others are more important in a majority of instances, but it's neither worthless nor is it counterproductive.

>>41738670
I don't know much about fighting but if I had to think really hard about it my guess would be probably because she's a woman

>>41738407
I have begun MMA a year ago and kick boxing five years ago and I'm pretty sure I could take on Ronda Rousey

>>41740449
What sort of weightlifting routine would a fighter do? In a general sense

>>41740517
how

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>>41740288
McGregor's a light weight (70 kilo or 145 pounds). Here's past welter weight (77 kilos or 177 pounds) champion George Saint Pier

>>41740535
submaximal, because they have to worry about taxing their CNS and lower back. most strictly powerlifting/strength programs would fail, because they would be put in bad positions from fatigue as well as putting more strain on joints.
similarly, they have to avoid excess mass (especially when they're on the upper limits of their weight class). basically every fluff movement is removed, and volume is limited. not only to prevent unnecessary hypertrophy, but high volume training can interfere with their ability to recover for cardio/gpp.
i'm no CSCS, and i'm definitely no pro fighter trainer, but if i had to guess the majority of fighters would split their lifting by body parts (upper/lower), planes of motion (horizontal/vertical), or low volume full body training. it really depends on how often they're training each style.
if someone is training judo/jiujitsu one day and striking the other, i'd guess lower body and core intensive lifts would be done after grappling practice (likely with cardio/gpp first thing in the morning, sparring/technique work in the afternoon or early evening and lifting a couple hours before bed). when grappling, core strength is important to maintain a neutral spine. whether moving on your own or resisting pressure from an opponent, a fatigued core can fuck your lower back up.
similarly, benching/rowing first would make striking suffer, so that would also have to be done after technique work is finished.
some people may take a layering or active recovery approach, where sparring replacing GPP and they attempt to train every muscle group to some extent every day. if this was the case, a similar daily schedule would be implemented but the regularity with which you're straining your core, low back, and legs/arms would have to be accounted for.
>tl;dr
cardio first, then sparring, then explosive lifting. bands, chains, speed reps, oly lifting, etc. with lots of care put towards mobility and muscular balance

>>41740676
lifts that would be prioritized for fighters:
>ass to grass beltless squat
for core strength and hip/ankle flexibility
>deadlift variants
they may never pull from the floor conventionally, that's a possibility. trap bar deadlifts from the floor, speed reps with resistance bands, snatch grip, anything that works the core and explosive capabilities while not maximally loading the lower back. should also be done beltless
>clean, jerk, snatch, and press
see above. great for explosiveness, and overhead work is amazing for punching strength
>weighted pull ups, face pulls
shoulder stability to prevent pressing induced kyphosis, and your back also contributes to punching power. watch a boxer or mma fighter punch in slow mo, and you'll see a push-pull thing going on with their upper body while they work their hips into it. not a huge difference, but any edge is welcome.
>core work
fucking tons of it, every angle. ab wheel, hanging leg raises, windshield wipers, dropping medicine balls on your gut, and straight up standing there and talking while you get punched. you gotta have a strong core to avoid puking your fucking guts out or losing your ability to breath after a few liver shots.

>>41738492
could she even beat Holly Holm?

>>41738530
>>41738492
>Can't beat Amanda Nunez
>Can beat real fighters
by the way mayweather only is a good boxer because the rules of boxing make being a little bitch OP. He would get his shit fucked every time if he went into MMA or had no round limits

>>41738407
what is OP's picture from?

>>41738407
Obviously enought to overpower them but if the girl is like an mma fighter and youre just strong with no fighting experience she'll probably hit you in the face many times before you get the grabs.

>>41741837
Some girl from Blacked

>>41738407
If you're heavier than her, all you have to do is fucking tackle her to the floor.

>>41739214

best is still Jon Bones Jones pound for pound, but he is out because he drove over some pregnant woman and did coke like the nigger he is.

in boxing I would say gennady golovkin is the p4p.

>>41740535

clean and jerks, squats, high volume presses, a shit ton of core exercises (medicine ball is goat)

but that will still only acount for 15% of their training, add 45% actual fight training (sparring etc) and 40% cardio.

>>41738407

30 lb weight advantage + 4" height advantage + non-sedentary lifestyle + determination

>>41738530
You're fucking retarded. She wouldn't stand a chance whatsoever

>>41742460
technically Mighty Mouse is best P4P

>>41740002
>being 5ft tall