I'M TIRED OF WOJACK. MAKE ANOTHER THREAD IF YOU DON

>>41718048
>mfw 128lbs
Will I make it?

>>41718085
Post pics or something because that's just skinny in my mind

>>41718096
I´m 5´3...

>>41718125
>BMI of 22.7

You aren't exactly /fat/

>>41718125

Consider suicide.

>>41718048
>no fat wojack for the pic

>>41718146
I don´t have much muscle mass and still much fat over my belly.
My goal is 110-120lbs.

Fuck, had to use bacon grease to cook my eggs because no more butter. I really should cut back on saturated fats. Still keto as fuck.

>>41718256
*heart attack as fuck.

>>41718256
Rendered bacon fat is so delicious. I used to have a roommate who would eat bacon every morning and save the pan drippings in a can in the freezer, I didn't buy butter all year.

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>>41718276
Yes. because as we all know saturated fat causes heart attacks and clogs ones arteries.
Also everyone don't forget to eat a fully balanced meal three times a day! mmm isn't bread delicious!?

>100,5kg
>about to break the 100kg milestone
we're all gonna make it bros

>>41718345
Point me to some dietary guidelines that advise you to eat bread.

OP, the fat wojaks allow us to quickly find the thread in the catalog.

Anyway, anyone try adding whey protons to oats? I'm thinking oats, pb, whey, and two teaspoons of sugar for dinner tonight. I need it to be around 400 kcal.

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>visit relative
>they say "you're less"
>good feel

Intermittent Fasting is a meme

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>>41718495
>dont eat
>if you dont eat your calorie intake is lower
>if your calorie intake is lower you lose weight

>>41718486
why the tablespoons of sugar?

>>41718347
Starting weight?

>>41718548
I just needed something sweet man. I figure this is a safe way to get my need for sucrose. Plus it's 2 tsp which is about 30ish kcal I think.

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>>41718516
>if you eat your deflect your still going to lose that amount of weight
>no matter how much you IF during the day unless you do it multiple days

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>>41718640
hey anon, I didn't mean to sound judgmental. Do you use flavored whey? If you want to not have to add sugar anymore into your oats, try the stevia whey protein from myprotein, they have about six flavors or so. Also another alternative is to buy unflavored and use sucralose (also available on myprotein) which if you research about it is far more efficient than refined sugar at flavoring and also much less harmful.
Good luck anon !

>>41717747
You bet your ass I'm working out,I was just not eating enough and got meself fucked,time to change my diet,as long as im below 100g of carbs and higher than 100g protein I'm fine right?

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>>41718048
did someone say forced meme?

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>>41718345
>as we all know saturated fat causes heart attacks and clogs ones arteries

Precisely.

does rice go with lamb?

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Help a lost /fat/so here lads

How is this diet?

>>41719031
the only bit of relevant info on there is the net calories
and it's under your limit
you're good

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Rate my meal

>Be decently /fit/
>Get job over summer where the hours are 8-22 seven days a week
>Plus you constantly get fed pastries
>Gain some weight (~10lbs)
>Come back after summer, meet grill
>Start dating, feeling good about myself still
>Party a lot
>Get new job in January
>Working hours are "Flexible" which means 11-22 6-7 days a week
>Plus a lot of obligatory partying and drinking
>Literally a job where i got criticism for not going out drinking enough
>Gain another ~20lbs
>Now ~200-210lbs at 6'1
>None of my shirts fit me
>Thrift some decent buttoned shirts
>My nice oxford shirts don't fit me
>Hate the way my body looks
>GF gained weight as well because of depression

>I put the foot down at work and try to start leaving at 19.
>Book in spinning with the GF once a week
>Also go out for jogs every now and then
>With summer coming we're both going to plan meals and workouts etc.
>I plan on working out 3-5 times a week the entire summer

Long way to go to not be a fatass but at least I'm on my way

>also tfw dopamine rush during and after workouts

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Fuck sake guys my grandparents don't want me to make it.

>>41719204
Where are the nutrients?

>>41719204
u don't have enough rice

>>41718125

Are you a grill

how much protein should i be shooting for? i've been getting 120-150g/day recently, some days as low as 80-90 others above 200g.
lbm is between 145 and 150lbs

>>41718146
that's the whole point of this general
do we get exiled when we're a healthy weight?

>>41718386
The food pyramid he just posted ya dingus.

>>41719345
That's a random un-annotated picture that he could have just made in mspaint for all you know, retard.
I want a quote from a person or organization with some authority behind them stating that for a healthy diet you should eat more bread.

lads, I'm on day 1 of a water fast and only had a cup of tea. I am feeling weak, and lethargic. I'm not hungry or have cravings at all, but I kind of want to be more energetic and active, and feel less shitty.
When will the foggy brain and sluggish mood go? When can I expect return of energy levels?
Much thanks.

Im coming down yo https://youtu.be/5omQAGj3YH8

>>41719031
Pretty good, but stop eating breakfast and eat those same calories every day.

>>41719585

are you trolling or have you actually never heard of the food pyramid

Its probably the most famous diet plan in the world, in the UK we have to memorise it for SAT biology

>>41719659
it's all in your head, this early into a fast you shouldn't be feeling lethargic or weak, that happens after a few days at least.

>>41719659
Pretty much everyone says you're good to go on or after day 4.

>>41719710
>Yes, good goy, eat a diet of mostly bread, then add fruit and veg. You don't need much meat goyim, truuuust me.

>Falling for the "diet" made up by big grain.

It's like you don't even want to make it.

>>41719710
Are you hard of reading, WHO RECOMMENDS IT, WHERE IS THE BREAD IN IT?

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Ate 5k calories on my PSMF cheat day. How do I get the water weight off now?

>>41719690
I eat breakfast because I work out in the morning

Miscalculated last night's dinner and didn't work out. Feelsbad. I am tempted to add extra today to make up for it

My farts smell like rotten garbage and my poop is green. Thanks, vegetables!

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Being fit combats almost all the most common reasons for dying these days.

>3 weeks into keto
>tomatoes are starting to taste suspiciously sweet and rich

and here I was considering having a fuckhueg cheatday on my bday next week

>>41719771
It's not water.

>>41718125
Oh well you at least are doing something early and not waiting to turn into full blown /fat/

>>41718345
Hell yeah, I fuckin love bread!

S-sniff

>>41719769

You are literally a retarded person

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>>41718085
>I went from barely being able to walk 250 meters with intense pain to jog 5 kilometers a day
We all are going to make it.

>>41720158
couldn't find anything?

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Learn to cook more is the best thing ever. So much better for my waste line and for my wallet.

Pic related is my 600 calories for dinner tonight.

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I can't tell if I've lost weight because still no scales :(

>>41720357
Looks like shit

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>>41720377
First time ever taking pics of myself

>>41720377
>>41720401
you're almost there anon. keep up the good work.

>>41719335
No, but I still have man boobs...

>>41720357
don't listen to the troll, it's looks delicious, no need to fancy up the presentation if you're eating alone at home. In the end, what matters is nutritive value. Enhancing presentation is only useful if you want to forcefeed someone something not appealing otherwise anyway. It's purely superficial.
I think I saw another anon post shrimp and spinach pasta dish the other day, and give out the recipe. did you try it out or was it a fluke?

Well lads, I have good news and I have bad news.

Good news is that PSMF is cool and I'm down to 185 for this upcoming weigh in.

Bad news is that this is the last month of me managing the contest for y'all. I'm enlisting in the Army Reserves and will be in basic and then AIT until the end of December. So after this tournament and the June 30th weigh-in that's the end of the contest.

UNLESS someone wants to take it over. Download the spreadsheets and do all the organizing on it. I would be more than happy to sit down and discuss this with one of you but I'd like to have someone who's been really committed and in it from the start.

Pieman, Rainman and Glitch have first right of acceptance or refusal on this one as I feel like they're the most connected and dedicated to this thing. No offense to anyone else, I just know their character more than most I feel.

Shoot me a message here or on the document page and we'll iron out details or I'll hand it over to someone else depending.

>>41720435
Just wanted to have shrimp since its such a lean meat and found a recipe for it online. Seemed simple and easy enough so I went with it

>>41720377
Shave your stomach, you'll lose 5 lbs instantly.

>>41720440
I hope you've been running a lot. Like a fuckton.

Also, get a backpack, throw two plates in it, then go for some 8 mile hikes.

These two things will help you excel at basic.

>>41720440
>>41720527
Also, thanks for running the challenge, and good on ya for joining. You're gonna make it.

Oh, and don't fuck a baby into a fatty.

>>41720527
I have been and I shall do that.

two plates as in 2pl8? I got an 80 lb weight vest.

>>41720548
The vest is a good start, but you need to be used to carrying that weight on your shoulders/back. Best thing you could do is look on offerup or CL for an army-style ruck and load that shit up with as much heavy gear you can find to evenly distribute the weight, then hike with that.

>>41720573
I reckon I could go to home depot and get 5 lb bags of sand, fill the ruck and do it like that?

How much weight do you think?

>>41720357
is shrimp that healthy?

>>41720495
I like being bearmode for another while

Is it cheating if you ate the food you like, but reach your caloric deficit anyway?

Daily reminder that these threads are terrible and none of you are going to make it

>>41720590
http://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/ruckmarches.htm

Follow this program. Depending on your starting ability, you should be up to 80-90 lbs by week 9 if you have that long. If you don't, just follow the program as closely as possible to get a little boost going into basic. DO NOT overdo it, the last thing you want to do is injure yourself right before you go to MEPS.

>>41720648
You're a legend. Thanks, brother.

>>41720644
I´m 8 kg away from making it, so fuck you.

>>41720597
1 lb raw shrimp is 386 calories. Far less than any of the other meats I looked at in the grocery store.

>>41720169

>just jogged 1k and it was tough

HOW DO YOU DO IT

>>41719204

i don't understand what the fuck you ate there.

>>41720671
Np bro, best of luck.

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>>41720734
It was a process of 1 year and a half anon, shit was rough at the start but it gets way easier doing it daily and going up your limit.
Just don't over do it by a lot because you will torn a muscle like I did a couple times.

>>41720832
My best guess is rice with a side of rice, three pieces of possibly chicken, a bit of red beetroot and something orange

>>41720717
but it's expensive, isn't it

>>41720876
$8/lb at my Kroger but I make 3 meals a lb of shrimp.

>>41720169
I used to get pains in the back of my knees (luckily not in the joint itself though) after running a 5K in the past (I ran thrice weekly), but then I got insoles because apparently I have flat feet, cycled a fuckton, and started stretching after running, and now I can even run 10 km five times a week without pain (except for muscle soreness and tightness sometimes).

>>41720734
You're gonna be able to jog 5 km without stopping in ~2 months if you can already jog 1 km and you're not really fat because noob gains (at least based on my personal experience), and if you're really fat then you shouldn't jog anyway.

Is it normal if my lungs hurt during cardio?

>>41720734
slow down your pace

>>41720926
If the air is dry, that happens when you breathe trough your mouth

>>41720622
No it's not..but you are cheating yourself out of essential nutrients and vitamins that promote energy and wellbeing. That's

>>41720911
Holy fuck man with 5k my arthritic body is already complaining (especially my right knee and lower back), I can't imagine 10k for now at least.
I might need to stretch too since I never done it in the past other than the physio I do on the mornings.

>>41720962
But I reached my goal with doubbling my wotkout.

>>41718495
It definitely helps psychologically, because it's easier to just say that "this is my one meal for the day, no more food for today" than it is to keep yourself from eating just that one additional bit of food after having eaten, say, three times.

>>41720901

tfw shrimps are about 15€/lb usually in my country

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How's your water consumption today /fat/?

>>41718818
>that pic
I don't get it when these people who spent their lives talking about weightloss let themselves go when they get old. They know exactly how detrimental getting fat is to their already failing health, yet they do it. Same goes for fat doctors and doctors who smoke.

>>41720357
Need more meat than pasta

>>41719290
What website is this?

>>41721070

it's an app called "myfitnesspal"

>>41719266
Why did you work so much? Genuine question.

>>41721086
Oh, duh. I didn't know you could meal plan on it. Thanks.

>>41721069
That seems excessive and expensive. I get enough meat in my diet with tuna at lunch.

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IM SO SICK AND TIRED OF BEING FAT. I WANT A JAWLINE.

>>41719710
I never understood the food pyramid. I'm not exaggerating for criticism's sake, I genuinely don't understand how you could plan a diet based on it, like how can you infer the quantities of different foods you should eat from a picture of a random pyramid.

Has anyone tried soylent? I have such a shit diet and awful stomach problems. Doesn't help that I fucking hate cooking and cleaning dishes. I want to buy some soylent but I'm poor. Would be great for helping count calories.

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>>41721130
A food pyramid usually comes with serving recommendations on it

>>41721179
I see.

>>41721064
Stress. Doctors are human too.

>>41721054
The anime gains :ok_hand:

>>41721139
If you are the type of person who hates eating soylent is great. Expensive as hell though and since you are a fat fucking faggot I doubt you dislike eating. Soylent does not taste good at all, its for autistic programmers who want the basics to survive while they click clack code 22 hours a day.

>>41721274
What, are my numbers off?

>>41720866

Keep it up bud

I do need to start doing it more, Ive been doing lots of biking because Ive had knee issues before but I think im just using that as an excuse sometimes

>>41721179
>maximize insulin resistance by stuffing your face with carbs from bread and sugar from fruit and milk
>never feel full because you don't get enough fat in your diet
>become a docile goyim tottering between the diabeetus and a massive heart attack but constantly comforted by endless pasta, sandwiches, rice, and cereal
Hmm, really makes my thinker clink...

>>41721332
Nah you just confused calories for lowered test levels you sissy boi

>>41721130

its literally a conspiracy by food companies

All of the original research was done by bread/cereal companies

Its 100% discredited so dont worry about it

>>41721344
Oy vey/10

>>41721364
y-you too....

>>41721344
>never feel full because you don't get enough fat in your diet

And now let's watch you struggle to find any scientific evidence backing up that statement.

>>41721344

Go back to /po/ you fucking cretin
Its right wing lunatics like you who have put the world in the state its in now
Seriously, get the fuck back, your not welcome

So hey if I get off at 9am then sleep and wake up at 3pm, should I eat more carbs before going to the gym at 6pm then eat more proteins after?

Also hydroxycut is based as fuck helps me not feel sleepy

>>41721437

>t. member of the #swoleleft

>>41721463
>posting in /fat/
Probably some self-righteous blue pill fat ass that is actually never gonna make it.

>>41721344
>insulin resistance from bread and fruit and milk

Are you brain damaged?

>>41721481
>Probably some self-righteous blue pill fat ass that is actually never gonna make it.

You just described the entire swoleleft movement. I thought that was implied in my joke. Oh well.

>>41718490
kek

>>41721487
Oh look, someone that has no idea how the body works.

>>41721500
Yeah, you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_resistance#Diet

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so, /fat/

My problem is not that I don't know how to make healthy food, or that I can't afford it

The problem is that I like junk food more. Today I did intermittent fasting 23/1, made myself a big ass salad:

>100 g of lettuce, which is a shitton
> 2 big ass tomatoes
> 1 red onion
> 1 mozzarella
> tasty green olives
> 100g of cold cut turkey

the bowl was huge and tasty. But the burgers taste better. the other shit taste better. I don't overeat out of hunger, I overeat out of craving better tasting food. please help me, it's destroying me.

>>41721521
Why do you call it ass salad?

>>41721521
You have no idea what actually tastes good, you are just addicted to oil and sugar. Eat clean for 2-3 months and you never wanna touch fast food again.

>>41719585
>"That's a random un-annotated picture that he could have just made in mspaint for all you know, retard."
You haven't even heard of the food pyramid that's literally in any elementary biology book. Who's the retard here?

>>41721505
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_resistance#Diet

did you even read the shit you posted, your fucking mong? Get out of here with your less than broscience tier shit. If dietary fat really contributed to insulin resistance, why is ketosis so great for type II diabetes?

Keep believing all that bullshit and stay fat, faggot.

>>41721521
1. use spices
2. don´t eat any fast food at all
3. If you cook your own food you´ll end up way cheaper than with fast food

>>41721575
My BMI's 21, what's yours?

>>41721505
BTW, 6-11 SERVINGS OF BREAD per day? Really? That's what you're going to go ahead and defend here? See you on next season of my 600lb life.

>>41721289
Well sure I love food, but I hate eating since I have IBS-A and hate cooking. I realize that I have an unhealthy relationship with food and need to change that. You can also flavor your soylent. I don't really care as long as I'm putting something into my body as fuel and losing weight by doing it since counting calories will be easier. It might be expensive, but considering how much the average person spends on food in a month, it might be worth it.

>>41721556
>>41721583

I didn't end hungry or unsatisfied with my meal. I ended up craving for still better tasting food. Burgers, desserts, you name it. That's the thing that fucks me over and make me cheat on my plans (also, my bitch boy weakness of course)

>>41718125
4'10 just hit 119lbs
So close yet so far

>>41721571
I asked for a link to any health organization or professional that advocates for it in the form that was posted, so far everyone has curiously failed to deliver.

>Who's the retard here?
You.

>>41721647
How about using another recipe?
As soon as I learned how to cook I lost interest in cafeteria and fast food.
I litteraly ride 14km with my bike to cook myself a lunch.

>>41719204
That's like 800 cals of rice alone

>>41720440
No worries mate it was fun while it lasted.

>>41721638

You could get more filling, flavorful, and satisfying food from a meal prep place that will fit your macros if you really want to light your money on fire.

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>>41718048
>tfw girls actually start noticing my gainz
>friends gf gets drunk and tells him to sleep with other friend and she'll sleep in the same bed as me
>when he says no she gets handsy with me for the rest of the night
>other friends sister always hanging out with me during the night too, shes down
>people hanging out treat me like an actual person and dont ignore me everytime i talk to them
is this what it is to break free of the bonds of fat?

Just prepped my next 8 meals. Truly this is the way to go.

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>be me
>5'11, 265
>started dieting last week
>TDEE is 2600, according to mfp my daily limit is 1770
>completely try hard to remove rice from diet and only eat it on gym days (1 cup max)
>abandon soda and start chugging green tea
>somehow I always end up at 1300-1500 every day
>pic related is the first time I'm getting to at least 1650

Am I doing this right /fat/?

>>41721798
Meal prep place? Pretty sure there aren't any of those around here. I'm in a shitty rural town. And I'm a pretty picky eater.

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How does alchohol and cheat meals affect weight loss?
I went to a friends beach house this weekend and my diet was basically chicken and waffles, burgers without buns, and alchohol.
When i came back, i was half a pound heavier, but the next day i lose 2 pounds which stayed down all day (no weight variance)
does the shock of terrible food help your body shed weight?

>>41719344
Yes, now GTFO skelly

>>41718652
>>41721022
This. A restricted eating window will help you lard balls learn a bit of self control

>>41719344
Yes. Otherwise every non-fat person will feel entitled to post here.

>>41721822
isnt there one online called blue grocery or some shit?
They send the food right to your house.

>>41721852
but I used to be you, I've been through what you've been through
we're brothers in lard

>>41721864
Ignore those dummies. I'm a former /fat/ and made it /fit/ and I still post here and help people daily.

We're all still /fat/ sacks of shit on the inside.

>>41721139
>>41721638
What did your doctor say to do about your IBS? Is it triggered by food?

>>41718125
Please be in london

>>41721879
This
no matter how much weight you lose, you still see yourself as fat

I'm now fasted cycling 20 miles a day on my stationary bike. Takes me about 90 mins on a medium setting. I dont know if this is good or not, dont really care, just happy that i'm doing cardio most days in addition to lifting weights.

>>41719266
>6'1
>200lb
>fatass

Nigga what the fuck? You should look amazing at your current metric

>>41721899
pretty sure your body starts producing corto after 45 mins of cardio which eats muscle if you don't eat correctly before and after your workout
just a heads up

hey fasting anon, if I remember correctly you're a woman right?
Well, I'm a fellow femanon, just started this month and got my period today. I was wondering if from experience you could tell me what to expect weight wise from period. I think I heard somewhere that you have more water retention when on your period and thus more likely to weigh heavier. Is it true?
thanks for the tips.

I'm failing guys. Had two 33cl fantas and a redbull today. I'm probably above 60kg again, I don't wanna look.

>>41721859
Besides already mentioning I'm a picky eater, I live like half an hour away from the nearest town.

>>41721924
>redbull
why would you drink literal poison

>>41721879
Yeah im not even fat, I had abs when I woke up this morning, but I've been down this road before of making it then eating whatever and gaining 20lbs. We're just fatties fighting our nature, we can never stop being hypervigilant.

>>41721926
https://www.blueapron.com/
who cares about where you're located they deliver to your house
>picky eater
thats just a mental process called "i like eating shit"

>>41721928
I have to get rid of some coins before they get outdated. And I enjoy some poison every now and then.

>>41721945
Exactly. When you've been at both ridiculous ends of the spectrum you can provide some valuable insight.

/fat/ties wouldn't learn anything without the recovered.

>>41721881
No idea. I don't like taking to my doctor about my stomach issues. If you're wondering, yeah my diet is shit and doesn't help it at all. I'm also lactose intolerant so I've been avoiding diary and cheese

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>>41721437
>Go back to /po/ you fucking cretin

i probably said this before but bagels have the worst flavor:calorie ratio ever

it just tastes like fucking bread but it has the calories of a double cheeseburger somehow

>>41721521
You know you can just eat shit as long as you stay within your caloric limit for the day, right?

Actually, you should do that. Whatever your daily intake is, eacth that in sweets or whatever else.

After 3 days you will feel like such absolute shit you'll be able to focus on eating well without being distracted.

cutie winked at me today

I thought I was going to pass out

>>41721917
I eat a greek yogurt right after, it's probs not enough though.

>>41721803
Yeah it's weird how even reaching average-mode can open a floodgate of pussy just falling into your lap.

In fact I'd say I saw a bigger jump in female attention going from fat->skinnyfat than skinnyfat->bulking

>>41721926
>picky eater
>wants to eat literal flavorless sludge

Are you fucking with me or something...? Using the blueapron example if you live in bum fuck kickapoo, they give you multiple choices of meals each week so you should be able to find something. Expensive though

>>41721803
>>41722031
It's one of the odd things of society nowadays. Since most people range from overweight to obese, it's easy to be fat and think of yourself as normal, average, or just out of shape. That's how I imagine a lot of us got big. But once you slim down, even if you're not shredded with model-tier looks, you've shot above like 50+% of the population in terms of your body and face alone.

>>41721919
Most women gain 3-5 pounds of water weight during that time, it varies though, can be more or less. It's hormones or some shit. I cant fit into my regular skinny jeans during that time of the month.

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>mums back from her holiday
>got me these
th-thanks

ah I'm not bothered, they look nice
I still have most of my chocolate from christmas

>>41721995
can I know your current stats (weight, height, bf% if you know it) so I can get an idea at which point it'll be an occurence to see abs, fellow femanon here. Thanks!

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>>41720440
I wish I could take over for you but I'm not sure I can dedicate the time to be honest . Thank you for organizing it through, it's really kept me focused.

>>41722064
thanks for the answer, Anonette! It will help me rationalize any weight gain the next coming days!

>>41722079
No worries, bud. I'm happy its done something for at least a few of you.

>>41721919
Hey femanon, Don't worry about the water retention, you should not be weighing yourself every day and fluctuating weight is perfectly normal, the important thing is a consistent downward trend over the months. Be sure to take you supplements, especially iron as it is real easy to get anemia when dieting on your period.

>>41722053
No...? I just figured it would be a lot easier drinking slightly flavoured goop rather than having to meal plan and cook every day. All you gotta go is shake up a bottle of water and powder and you got yourself a 500 calorie meal. No having to worry about over eating or counting calories. Honestly if I could take pills to get my daily nutrients and they would help me slim down, but I could never eat real food again I would totally do it.

>>41722066
Where did she go for holiday, the supermarket?

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>Be me
>280lb
>Want to lose weight for a year now
>Keep noticing so many posts on reddit about fitness goals and results after 6+ months
>Still here
>Still 280lb
>Still feel bad and haven't made a change
>Don't ever become like me
>My goal is honestly just to lose 80lb within a year+ and thats it, I'm not trying to go below 200lb

>>41722099
oh thanks for the hot tip, (fem)anon! I didn't know I was under the risk of anemia, but I have iron supplements (from spirulina and spinach) I take daily! Really appreciate your insight, though, good looking out!

>>41722118
It was either scottland or wales
guessing scottland

>>41722123
Trust me when you hit 200lb you'll decide to go lower, especially if you're average height like I'm assuming.

>>41722066
Aw they're little doggies. Cute.

>>41722139
6ft1

Sorry if this isn't a /fat/ enough of a topic to blog about, but as a former floor sleeper, I'm thinking of going back to it at least on nights when I don't have to get up for work the next day. My bed is a simple pad mattress sans bed springs laid on a board over the slats of the bedframe, which has been my compromise option and is honestly a bit easier to sleep on. But I took a brief nap on the floor today (didn't want to sleep past 30 minutes and fuck up being able to fall asleep tonight) and it just made my back feel amazing. Particularly now that I am on the cusp of a healthy BMI, I think it will be easier than ever to sleep on the floor without the lack of padding causing as much discomfort due to excessive weight adding pressure.

What do y'all sleep on?

>>41722143
Hmm well I'm 5'10" and went from 270 to 200 and...was really disappointed. I'm still round and pudgy, I just take up less space. I've realized I'll have to get halfway to auschwitz before I can really bulk back up.

When I was morbidly obese, being "merely chubby" sounded like an upgrade I'd be happy with for life. Now I'm there and still unhappy.

>>41722186
I've slept exclusively on a couch every night for the past 6 years at least.

>>41722191
>Yea I've been at 200lb before an gained it over a couple of years now at 280
Problem is when I was 200lb and constantly worked out and was addicted to the /fit/ lifestyle I enjoyed life a lot more

These days I'm miserable to even get off the couch

>under target
>good week so far
>fancy a treat
>mom brought home apple tarts
>there's a mars ice cream in the freezer
>decision
>the ice cream will keep, let's have a tart
>eat it
>was awful
fuck.

>>41722191
Time to learn how to be happy regardless of externalities.

>>41721969
lmao

Anyone /ECstack/ here?

>>41722215
My treat is the reliable ol' glass of water.

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I just want my fucking Candace Cameron glow up already. She's the gleaming beacon of hope for late bloomers everywhere...

>>41722186
In a high bed ith a shelf under it.
>inb4 you have to be 18
It is my first flat after I moved out.

>>41721995
pretty sure thats not enough, I'm not exactly sure what you should eat to counter-act it so i wont mislead you, but you might want to look it up.

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You loose piece of shit, why won't you tighten up?

God damn you, loose skin.

>>41722186
anon, I fucking love sleeping on cold, hard floor. It's even better if it's right under a window, close to a sliding glass door, so I can let a breeze in and look at the night sky.
I think it all stemmed from my greedy mom buying used sponge mattresses that you'd sink into so deep you'd need a good push to get out of, and they were so lacking in firmness that I would lose a sensation of structure in my back and glutes and feel like I am melting inside of it. It was terrible. Then we had other sorts of mattresses, some with broken springs that would stick out and stab your back. One night I just took my blanket and pillow and laid on the floor, and I instantly felt better. I do it very often usually when I have subpar sleeping arrangements available, or if I want to enjoy a view of the night sky under a summer breeze, while laying on a cold fresh floor, spread like a starfish, on a really warm summer night.
When I am moving out, I'll probably get a japanese tatami, or a very firm futon. I love the perspective that sleeping on the ground gives, really widens the horizon so to speak.

>>41722186
I can't sleep on my back. What position do you sleep in?

>>41720377
>>41720401
I bet you're 5'6 and balding.

>>41722072
I dont know my weight because I dont have scales. I dont know my body fat because I've never had a dexa scan and dont trust calipers. I go by measurements, I'm 5'8 with a 26 inch waist. I can see abs when I'm dehydrated. To have actual abs I'll need to lose another inch, which will take 2 weeks-1 month. I've been lifting on and off for years though so other girls might not have visible muscle mass with the same stats.

So I have work that requires me to be up, and out the door by 4am, to get to work for 5am-2pm, and sometimes 5am-10pm. It's because of this that I haven't cooked a breakfast in months, and usually rely on cereal, hotpockets, a gatorade or some drive thru to eat in the day. And because of time I rarely have time to get my lunch prepared, which is usually a Marie Calendarie's tv dinner, a yogurt and a Gatorade. And if I don't have time to get even that, like I took too long with the shower or I couldn't find my keys or something, then I just go to work and have to grab from the cafeteria, which has a bunch of junk food and sweets.

Now, I get ALL of that is bad for me. But I don't see where I can cook breakfast and lunch for myself except when I get home. And even then, I don't know what to cook for myself that I could pop in a microwave at work to eat. I'd need something that I could make a whole bunch of, depend on, and would be if not superhealthy, then better than what I've been eating before. Something for a consistent breakfast, and something for a consistent lunch.

What would you recommend?

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>>41722316
>tfw you got the reverse glow up.
>used to be a cute kid
>people would mire and compliment me always
>puberty hits and I am now officially a facelet

what have I done to deserve this? Is there no natty way to reverse this...

yesterday was bad, I thought that was it, it's over, I'll be back to my old ways now
but today was fine, kept well under my limit

think I've reprogrammed my brain, at last

Guys I'm 188lbs at 5'9 and I'm still fat as fuck, should I get down to like 130lbs?

>>41722419
I read something about oatmeal and peanutbutter here so I have been having that for a few days. The prep time is more than I like (approximately 3 minutes) but it's not outright disgusting. So I can recommend it.

>>41722419

On your day off cook a big batch of something. Portion it out into however many meals you eat (i eat twice a day). Put it in tupperware containers. Then you just grab the containers and go to work, microwave them. Not the tastiest shit ever nuked, but good enough and you have full control of your macros.

For example this week I cooked 3 pounds of carnitas, a pound of black beans, and a bunch of roasted veggies. Split it into 10 tupperware containers. 500 calories each, no fuss.

>>41722452
When it comes to weight there is no limit to how low you should go.

>>41722468
yes there is

>>41722479
It's like running track. If you aim for the finish line you'll slow down before it and lose. You gotta aim beyond it, you gotta aim for zero weight.

>>41722498
>anon took one too many DNP pills and is experiencing delusions in his body consuming fever.

>>41722498
Anon, If I loose more than 50lbs at this point I´ll most likely die.

>>41722498
you're wrong, in every sense. If you mean fat your still wrong. you can't weigh zero. If you have 0% body fat that's literally starving. 6-8% bodyfat is optimal for looks and health

>>41718125
Do u have man tits?

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henlo 5'4" manlet here

still at 15% bodyfat 131lbs
been this way for almost a year
What do?
I want to be a lower body fat. I eat 1700cals a day. What else can I do!!!

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>>41722540
are you that kid from shark boy and lava girl?

>>41722540
you'd think you need to cut more, but the actual answer is put on muscle mass over losing more fat : result is lower body fat. start lifting.

>>41722540
5`3 manlet here.

I don´t know my bodyfat, but I am 128lbs.
I cycle 30km/day and eat under 800kcal.
I am loosing weight at a insane speed right now.

woke up and weighed myself again today now down 2kg after yesterdays 4kg rise. don't think I'll be touching carbs again for a while now.
was so damn close to 70kg... at least I'll be out walking today so that will be some good cardio I guess.

>>41722558
you guys need to start lifting real fucking soon if you want to see something under the countless layers of fat you're peeling. What's next? skin and bones? your pick.

>>41722523
The trick is to stop right on deaths door.
>>41722527
I'm saying you gotta aim low. A guy aiming at 200 is gonna take his sweet time. Aim at zero and you'll be crawling on the floor from malnutrition in no time.

>>41722540
Eat lower

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>>41722540
here is my updated pic
afraid of cutting more and getting weaker.
Current lifts are
225 Squat
245 deads
185 bench

>>41722572
My goal in´t a insane sixpack or something, I just want to gain a better power/weight ratio and see a bit of a sixpack.
I don´t lift at all, but I do some sit ups.

>>41722594
how much should I eat?
1600?

>>41722587
So you think Auschwitz mode is desireable?

>>41722610
>>41722612
manlets... when will they learn?

>>41722612
No, even lower like 1000kcal and you`ll reach your goal in no time.

>>41722629
i made a trip since there are other fellow manlets posting.
1000cals? Won't I get super weak? Lean mass will die too right?

>>41722627
>hurr durr I was born tall

>>41722633
Depending on the amount of protein and training that may happen a bit.

>>41722617
If that's what it takes to shed the weight. You know what the first thought the people of Auschwitz had when they looked into a mirror? Probably something like 'this is a nice base for building a muscular body'

>>41722643
Well, I do compounds with accessories (3days a week) and sometimes a 4th cardio and light weight day on the weekend.
I eat my weight in protein every day and try to switch months of high volume with months of lower volume higher weight.

>>41722655
The first people in Auschitz didn´t starve untill 1943 when germany simply wasn´t able to feed them.

>>41722674
Try to keep the amount of protein and reduce carbs.

>>41722262
yup. and I hate every minute of it

>>41722694
I did keto for a while (about 3 months) and the only difference was that I was much more lethargic during daytime such as lecture or working hours.
Perhaps I should try again though.
I lowered the cals to 1650. Might go back to eating 1500, not sure.

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>on a 9 day (((holiday))) cruise from Sydney, currently anchored off Lifou in New Caledonia
>unironically going to put on 10 kg because food is free and I'm drinking six cocktails every night

Never EVER go on holiday when you're fat bros it's suicide by enjoyment, the last time I went on one 2 years ago I was 130 kg and now I'm 98 so it's not all bad though

>>41722706
RIP

>>41722703
I do about 800kcal (mostly protein) or lower per day and cycle at least 30km per day.

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>>41722706
>aussie
>picture is backwards

>>41722723
holy 800!
How are your lifts?
Current weight?
Bodyfat?

>>41722706
I went on a cruise for 2 weeks from brisbane to singapore and didn't put on any weight.

I found eating heaps got boring after the first couple of days. Still drank a fuck ton tho, the ship should have a gym on board as well.

>>41722703
For lethargy I can recommend caffeine pills. I take between zero and three 200mg pills a day. On the days I don't take any I'm a right zombie.

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>>41722706
Whenever I upload anything from this piece of shit phone its upside down, apologies

>>41722729
>How are your lifts?
I don´t I cycle my FTP is 170W at this point, but it keeps increasing.
>Current weight?
128lbs, goal is 110lbs
>Bodyfat?
can´t measure that, but it most likely isnt that high anymore.

>>41722706
>be on steep cut
>holiday with parents that I've been promising to go with them for ages (sort of a gift for mom because blah blah long boring story)
>three meals a day in 5 star hotel
>GONNAGETSOOOFAT
>chef is actually some world renowned cunt with Michelin mentions and whatnot
>point being, he cooks almost cleaner than I do at home despite being honhonhon high french cuisine
>go for low carbish vegetable and fish rich meals but otherwise eat ALL OF THE FOOD
>go for a jog with dad on the beach every morning, bit of calisthenics every half mile or so
>swim a lot
>return from 14 day holiday 7kg lighter
I'm not sure why I shared this but your post reminded me of it. It's doable, you just need weaponized autism and a bit of luck

oh
>cocktails
one parent recovering alcoholic, the other strictly abstinent since teenage years. so I dodged that one because I felt bad drinking alone. might have been a factor

>>41722765
>alcohol
I don´t drink any alcohol since silvester 2014/15.

>>41722778
I happen to enjoy a glass here or there occasionally, but nothing like my past abuse, and I just factor it into my carb macros regardless of type of spirit (and count roughly 7 calories instead of 4) and it magically works.

>>41722601
jesus christ man, tone down the arms. you are not proportional

>>41722725
Has to be hooked to the chair or else he'll fall into the sun

>>41722778
>silvester
german? not that I mind, you guys (sadly) got some swell beers

>>41722832
top kek!

>>41722678
Go back to /pol/

>>41722829
all i do for arms is curl sometimes ;-;

>>41722855
Indeed, I am german.
>>41722859
Dude, I have letters of my gradpa from that time when he was in a campf for beeing in the polish army.
But that is another story and should stay on /POL/

Guys is it one gram of protein per kg or per pound?

>>41722915
Pound Typically when referred to.

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>>41722381
Breh you look great just keep lifting man, and congrats on such a huge transformation. How much better do you feel?

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>>41722931
And i've been having having 1/3rd of my bodyweight in lbs this whole time

when starting a diet, when can you tell when the easy water weight is gone, and the real weight starts coming off?

>>41722982
when you plateau for the first time : )

>>41722553
She got so ridiculously hot. Jesus christ.

>>41722381
Horey shit, you escaped the dad bod

>>41722982
who cares, keep losing weight, water weight fluctuates all the time

day 15 of PSMF+daily gym
5'7 185 pounds to 5'7 170
this is the best shit ever

>>41723249
how does PSMF work? ive never heard much about it?

>>41723277
you're supposed to eat only protein and nothing else, maybe some trace of vegetables but I haven't. I got about 800-900 calories every day.

>>41723289
whats an example of a day of food for that? just solid meat?

>>41723299
my last 15 days have been 750g-800g boneless skinless chicken breast + multivitamins and fish oil. I am finally escaping dyel mode

>>41723289
do you shit ? also are you taking a multivitamin ?

I'm going to try meal planning so I can actually keto. I only have 2 days worth of tofu so I'll have to make a plan using chicken. What's some more keto-friendly foods I can use? I do have a few cans of tuna but FUCK I don't like tuna that much

2 eggs 3 slices turkey bacon cooked in 1/2 tbsp butter
>18g P, 23g F, 280 calories
1/2 cup cashews
>10g P, 26g F, 16g C, 320 calories
Tofu taco salad, cooked with evoo served on spinach
>18g P, 22g F, 8.2g C, 310 calories

Totals: 46g P, 71g F, 24.2C on 1000 cal/day

Is this solid? This is my first time measuring macros this strictly and meal planning to accommodate it. Ik I'll inevitably be eating almost the same thing everyday, but if there's anything else I can incorporate, let me know. Ik many will suggest greek yogurt but like, how can I make it taste good?

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done my keto shopping list
I need more ideas

Is lat pulldowns and pullups essentially the same exercise? I don't want to do assistance pullups, because I'm fat.

>>41723324
once every 2 days

>>41723553
>all this prepared food
Never gonna make it
>chicken leg quarters
>bacon
>eggs
>ground beef
>sausage
>fish fillets
>almonds
>cashews
>pork rinds
>leafy greens
>low carb veg such as broccoli, mushrooms, celery, asparagus, cauliflower
CMON

>>41723553
First off, get rid of ALL of that shit. Packaged, ready-made crap like that will almost always have carbs in it. Buy meat, eggs, cheese, nuts and other shit you can PREPARE.

Who /fat/ here doing SS? Should i drop bro split and do SS?

>>41723599
they're legally obligated to put the nutritional info on the packaging
not sold on the "you gotta buy fresh or you're gonna die!!!" scaremongering, there doesn't seem to be any basis for it
everybody says processed is bad, but nobody knows why

>>41723611
>they're legally obligated to put the nutritional info on the packaging

Okay, so do you know the nutritional info of all of those things? If you rely on packaged, you're going to have a hard time finding items with low enough carbs to sustain a <30g carb diet. I get it, I eat processed all the time too but I used to do keto dieting in the past and relying on ready-made foods just wasn't sustainable.

>>41723631
sustainable isn't necessary
I'm not doing keto for the rest of my life

I've done it before, I was just hoping that people might know of keto foods that aren't fucking chicken, cheese and bacon

>>41723647
>I'm not doing keto for the rest of my life

Well, sustainable was the wrong word. But rather, I don't even know how you're going to accomplish it at all. See how no one was able to answer your question...it's because keto has a basis in raw dieting, the exact opposite of processed.

>>41723667
I thought it was carbs

I don't plan on gorging all day, eating bacon by the pound
eating less than 20g of carbs a day is simple, even if what I eat is shit

>>41723691
>prework protein bar has 17g carbs alone
how is this possible anon

>>41723713
don't eat a protein bar full of carbs
man this is easy

>>41723553
Where do you live? I've never seen any of this shit before.

>>41723729
you've never seen bacon or minced beef?

>>41723736
I'm talking about the brands

>>41723744
>>41723736
mostly the things in the middle

>>41723752
mattessons is well known
they sell snack packs of meat mostly
flavoured chicken, pork balls, german sausage and such
babybels are just little wheels of cheese, popular with children for dat calcium

>>41720440
Damn man, gunna miss ya. dont break anything out there. im not good with spreadsheets so i cant take the reins

>>41723825
No worries, man. I'll see if Rainman wants it, otherwise I'm afraid its coming to a close end of June.

Finish it out with a nice tournie.

>>41723851
i can already tell you beat me in weight. im stuck at 250 still and my fast is over on friday, but the inches are flying off. ill post pics this weekend

>>41719266
LMAO "constantly get fed pastries" don't eat them. It is sooooo easy to decline food from other people.

>>41718125
youre a girl, right?

>>41723950
I'm struggling to think how people can get fat because of other people giving them food

it's usually as a nice gesture, not someone who wants to fatten you up with 5000kcal a day
nobody is that generous

>>41723713
quest bars have a ton of fiber, very few net carbs. they'll keep your digestion working like a well oiled machine. or use a low carb protein powder.

>>41721919
Yes, you gain water the week before your period but you tend to get a whoosh the following week. So like you might be up 3 lbs but the following week you're down 5 lbs

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>>41719290
where's your protein you fat shit?