Is Jack Donovan natty? He's pretty big and he's got

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>>41681082
>Is Jack Donovan natty?
Looks natty to me.
>How do you go about getting to this size?
Lift a lot. Especially do OHP, working traps and doing a lot of upper back/arms. Eat a lot.
>Also is neopaganism a meme?
Yes

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>>41681082
im pretty sure he is natty. tribalism follows human nature itself my dud

>>41681105
So, unfortunately until I'm done with Paramedic school I can't afford to move to LA fitness or a lifting gym in my area. I'm stuck at planet fatness hell. Is there anything I can do that will take the place of OHP until I can switch gyms? All they have are smith machines and dumbbells.

>>41681162
Standing DB OHP

>>41681604
Thanks bro

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>>41681105
>those traps and delts
>looks natty to me

>>41681641
That's what made me curious as to if he's using or not, but the rest of his body looks fairly obtainable as a natty

>>41681641
not everyone has shit genetics anon, some people can actually grow those.

>>41681633
Fuck off

>>41681832
Oh okay

>>41681844
Yeah it's like that

>>41681110
Gotcha. I like the concept of tribalism, just not the neopaganism shit.

>>41681844
Fuck yourself while you're walking out so we can watch

>>41681844
Hate to see you go but love to watch you fucking yourself while you leave

>>41681909
>>41681919
This thread is taking a weird turn

Any kind of spirituality is valid as long as it gives the individual a higher purpose to aspire to but the problem with most neopagans is that they just wear it as a fashion statement. There's nothing to their belief to incorporate into their lives and transcend.

>>41681969
You make a good point, and I have certainly noticed it. It's almost like they're trying to be edgy. I mean, I don't really have any problem with the religion per say, but it doesn't seem like there's any personal progression through it. Christianity and Buddhism want you to cultivate a more meaningful and helpful existence, but not paganism.

>>41681992
That's why I like Donovan and Waggener's paganism. They don't simply believe that the Germanic gods existed, they see the morals that the myths told as an inspiration to develop themselves.

>>41681856
What kind of faggot doesn't like shit?

>>41682067
It did seem different than before. They're actually directing that motivation towards an improvement.

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>>41681633
>>41681844
Take about 20% of her over there, eh?

>>41681082
>being marginally fit
>natty
seriously the baits are getting terrible

>>41681641
>fell for the traps and delts meme
Your ancestors have failed you.

>>41681969
>it gives the individual a higher purpose to aspire to but the problem with most neopagans is that they just wear it as a fashion statement

Most people wear their religion as a fashion statement or identity label. This is not exclusive to smaller religions, only more visible in them.

>>41681992
> it doesn't seem like there's any personal progression through it. Christianity and Buddhism want you to cultivate a more meaningful and helpful existence, but not paganism.

Since we're talking about Jack Donovan, I'd like to point out that his group are explicitly about meaningful existence. Whether you agree with their definitions and methods is a separate issue, but it is what they publicly state they are after in their many, many writings.

As far as Asatru/Heathen in general, the progression normally goes something like: "Viking religion!" - "This God is my patron deity!" - "Never mind, I honor all the Aesir in the appropriate time and way." - "Gathering with the Folk is where it's at." - "The 'folk' are a bunch of bickering, gossiping assholes, I stick with my kith and kin." - "We've purchased land and are building a hof. After I've known you a year and a day, have been in sumbel with you several times, and seen you at at least one regional moot, then I might tell you where it is and invite you to a blot at our ve."

>>41681856
>neopaganism shit
He's a homo so it comes with the territory.

>>41684613
Why so many people say he is a fag?

>honor
lol, poopdick is definitely something honorable.

>>41684633
Because he's gay.

He's just really quiet about it like a respectable human being.

>>41681641
They're defiantly big but not unrealistic.

I wouldn't even call it superior delt/trap genetics, slightly above average at most.

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Everyone who's unsure if Jack is on gear needs to remember that he's in his 40's and only started lifting a few years ago.

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>big delta and traps
>bald

Hmmm

>>41684633
He is literally a homosexual

why would you be natty if you are a faggot? Your just going to kill yourself anyway

I hate the term neopagan. Which fucking sect of paganism is he trying to follow?

We have plenty of records of roman/Greek Paganism, I say enough to restart the religions if you had enough believers, but norse got btfo super hard.

I do like that fag though. He influenced my thinking a lot

>>41686451
Have you read the way of men? I'm thinking about picking it up, not sure if it's worth it.

>>41686464

I pirated it because I sort of doubted it would be worth the read. I blazed right through it and it really resonated with me though. I definitely recommend it as a read for all men, I think there's some stuff that could be debated but the message overall is good.

>>41686483
Ever read any of his other books? Any more recommendations?

>>41686507

Haven't gotten around to the rest of his content but I recommend the Violence is Golden essay. It's simple truth that no one seems to acknowledge.

>>41686464
>>41686507
both way of men and becoming a barbarian are some of the best books I've read

>>41686514
Will read. Thanks

>>41686523
Thanks I'll have to pick them up

>>41686523
i read way of men and i liked most of it (i disagree on the free market stuff)

I wanted to buy becoming a barbarian but i was afraid it won't add a lot or it will be about practical tips on survival scenarios (like the end of the first book) which i'm not focused on now

>>41684666
>He's just really quiet about it like a respectable human being.

u wot?

Donovon publically, and famously, went on the RooshV forum claiming to bugger left-wingers and ethnics 'like women'. He's as out as Liberace.

>>41681082
>How do you go about getting to this size?

Drink the semen of young boys daily

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>m'gang

>>41686950
Sounds like bantz desu. Besides that he doesn't politicize his sexuality and make it an identity.

Looking at those delts I'd assume he's on gear. He could be natty with great genetics. If that is your goal body and you don't have the same genetics then you'll need gear.