So I'm 24, skinnyfat and want to start lifting. I wanted to do SL5x5 or SS.
My goal is to improve my looks, I don't really care about strength.
Some say those are bad routines for aesthetics, but others say I should build a strength foundation before I start worrying about looks.
What programs do fit my needs? Yesterday someone recommended Ivysaur's 4-4-8 program, but I would like to get more opinions.
There's a simple answer to your question: any. You're a beginner, and novice gains will pave over deficiencies in any program. Hell, even hardcore natty brosplitters (body part once a week) get gains when new.
>>41680311
Also, there's a common belief that for aesthetics, you'll need a strength base. That's arguable, but very common.
SL/SS is in the low rep range and makes you accustomed to excercises and the technique needed for them.
If I were you (started at 23, also skinnyfat), I'd take a 5X5 or something similar, throw in accessory work (biceps, triceps isolations, shit like that) and just take my novice gains. After that switch to a higher volume program - because your body will need higher volume to get a response.
Check out Greyskull LP, slight emphasis on aesthetics compared to SS, and the progression is just way more fun
Is this a good workout for a skinnyfat 19 year old, 5ft 8 or 9, 150Ib guy?
Workout A:
Bench Press - 5x5
Cable Pulldown - 4x10
Seated DB Shoulder Press - 3x8
Cable Rows - 3x8
Incline Machine Chest Press - 3x10
Workout B:
Barbell Squats: 5x5
Romanian Deadlift: 3x6
Leg Press: 3x8
Standing DB Calf Raises: 4x12
It's sort of a custom workout, I had to substitute some because the appropriate equipment wasn't in my gym.
>>41680413
Looks like a minimalistic upper/lower split. Try it and modify it, if nescessary.
>>41680430
Modify it how?
SS+GOMAD
>>41680446
Let's say you want to include more biceps isolations. Then toss some curls in.
>>41680413
Bench
incline
rack pull
rows
facepull
tricep exercise
bicep exercise
>>41680469
>>41680491
So is a different program that doesn't care for upper/lower splits better? Would this or something like SS/4-4-8 benefit me more?
And if there's nothing wrong with it, do I add these suggestions to Workout B? I don't want to overload one day with too much.
>>41680398
What does alternating mean? Do I do both exercises on one day?
Ivysaur beginner is great if you add accesories, I've been doing his intermediate and my lifts are going up 2.5-5kg per week.
>>41680311
SS worked for me in the end, you have to remember you wont be aesthetic with any beginner program but as long as you aren't a fat shit, you will look better as long as you are progressing your lifts.
I wasted so much fucking time going between SS, SL and worrying about accessory it makes me mad.
If I could go back I would have just done SS, with chins and pullups as included and end each session with some ab work like rollouts. If you really want to, just throw in a couple sets of curls/isolations on Friday or something.
Just get stronger and remember to eat if you are a dyel, you can do more accessory when you finish SS. You should only be on SS for a few months if you run it properly and recover.
I used to think people were memeing when they said what I just said but it really is true. Follow the program as writtin, recover and you'll be done with SS in no time.