>a 500 lb man telling the world it needs to change its lifestyle

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>>41655623
He isn't wrong though

>>41655623
>help the planet
Is he talking about himself?

>>41655623
He's right even though he's a hypocritical moron. I like that it's trendy online now to not give a fuck about the environment. Truly fun and edgy stuff.

>>41655685
cmon anon, don't you know god's gonna step in and manually fix climate change himself once it gets bad? fucking libtards amirite?

Didn't he admit that he's fat cause he eats to much and that it isn't HAES shit but just CICO and his bad habits? Like he's a fat bastard and I'll forever judge fat bastards silently but at least he's an honest one which wins *some* brownie points over typical HAES.

>>41655642
>>41655685
>>41655701
(((Climate change)))

Doesn't science tell you that eating 6000 calories a day and no exercise isn't healthy?

>>41655701
yeah lets just give trillions to the UN that'll fix everything!

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>WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE UNLESS YOU GIVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SHADY BUREAUCRACIES

>>41655772
fucking this

twitter was unbearable today no one actually read what the US committed to in the agreement

biggest fucking job killer for not even a CHANCE at a 2 degree drop in warming

>>41655729
(((coal)))

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>>41655729
http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/about-the-reef/reef-health
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/aug/04/speed-glacier-retreat-worldwide-historically-unprecedented-climate-change
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/biodiversity/elements_of_biodiversity/extinction_crisis/
>b-but caring for the health of the planet is just a liberal conspiracy right guys?
you're literally getting jewed out of your children's future by some of the richest and most powerful people in the history of the world so they can keep making oil shekels for a few more decades

>>41655623
he thinks getting gastric bypass surgery will magically make his eating disorders go away. if the surgery doesnt take him, he will kill himself with his food.

>>41655772

This. shit is all just another plot by the bilderbergs. For all the bitching and moaning people have been doing for years and years about "someone needs to change our fucked up system!" Trump comes along and actually does so, and they hate him because hes "unrefined" or stupid or mean or whatever. Cowards.

>>41655798
we will be fine in 100 years

we will probably be fine in 200 years

stop being a fucking twat

>>41655748
>>41655772
don't give it to the fucking un, invest it in advancing green technology. as china is literally currently doing
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-china-energy-renewables-idUKKBN14P06P
i know they obviously have ulterior motives but this is where the future's going and they're gonna leave the JewSA in their dust

>>41655786
You realize that coal is a dying industry and that no jobs were actually "save". Propping up a dead industry is only going to delay the inevitable.
If you work for the coal industry, you will lose your job in the next 10 years. No amount of government handouts is going to fix that.
Natural gas is already cheaper than coal and renewables are getting cheaper by the day.
The market is heading in that direction like it or not.
You lost.

>>41655816
>it won't affect me or the next couple of generations
>so fuck it let's burn it to the ground so giant globalist corporations can keep making money

>>41655840
This. You people are so fucking short sighted.
Do you not give a fuck about your children?

>>41655852
also the thing that really, truly fucks me off about it is that literally the ONLY people benefitting are fossil fuel & transport industries, their affiliates and the governments they bribe. there are masses of right wing arguments i have sympathy for or even fully agree with, but CC denialism and deregulation of healthcare by anyone other than business magnates or their shills are like turkeys voting for christmas

>>41655772
Lol, it also used to be even a left wing talking point that immigration to first world countries is horrible for the climate. Oddly that's slipped away for some reason.

>>41655701
>>41655685
Nobody fucking thinks this. Stop inventing imaginary people to make fun of.

>>41655923
i was joking (obviously) buuuuuuuuuuuut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLzB1gWDVP0

>i don't believe in climate change
Ok. Do you believe in smog?
Do you like smog?
Probably not.
So we should try and get rid of it.
>but pollution means that people have jobs, which is good for the economy
ok so you're a special kind of retard.
Consider this: We will run out of oil eventually.
The simple truth is we use up oil quicker than the earth can produce it. This is a fact. It takes millions of years for a barrel of oil to be produced, it takes less than a minutes for a barrel to be used. https://www.iea.org/about/faqs/oil/
We will run out, and when we run out, guess what's going to happen to all those jobs?
No more oil, no more jobs. Simple?
So instead of keeping a dying industry alive, why don't we try to create new industries with new jobs?
Good idea right?
>but wait, what if we find more oil
You're not to bright are you?
Imagine you have a bowl of candy and every day you take 2 pieces out and every day I add 1 piece.
What is eventually going to happen?
You'll run out should be the obvious answer.
But what if you find another bowl of candy?
The you'll be satisfied for a little while, but you will eventually run out of that too.
Then eventually finding more candy will get more and more difficult, and the more difficult it gets the more expensive it becomes, which isn't good now is it?

Even if you don't believe in global warming for whatever reason you can possible come up with, there is no logical reason for supporting fossil fuels.

>>41656003
Autism

>>41656031
I got up on my soap box.
I made a point.
Refute it or shut up.

I wonder what people would have blamed the ice age on back in the day


>hurrr durr nature never changes it cycles randomly

>>41655877
you're an idiot

these regulations effect basically every facet of the economy

restrictions on oil and gas lead to higher costs for all businesses and therefore less revenue, less hiring etc

this climate agreement would basically cripple our economy while countries like China and India continue to burn anything on their way to economic growth

>>41656003
Go to bed elon, nobody wants to buy your shitty (((cars)))

>>41656065
>>41655852
On top of that I want my child to live in a thriving economy where he can get a decent job and support himself

I will take that shit everyday of the week over have a degree warmer summer

ps: scientists have falsified data before and were caught so there's reason for skepticism

>>41656065
>lets save the economy by propping up dying industries
delaying the inevitable.
>>41656081
You're child isn't going to have a job when the oil dries up.

>>41655623
Don't scientists also say that you can lose weight by eating fewer calories than you burn? He should listen to them.

>>41655852
Shut the fuck up I know all you fucks drive cars and buy products of the shelf. You have no power to make a difference and neither do I, you just want to take the moral high ground. The more we cripple our economy here the more China India, africa and every other third world shit hole will increase their emissions

>>41656081
>oil and gas is the only industry in the world
>one degree hotter summers are the only effect of climate change
>>41656065
is that really a reason not to try? just because we expect some third world corrupt ass shitheap to behave like a bunch of retards, we need to stoop to their level rather than lead the way for the benefit of all life on the planet? also see >>41655831

>>41655852
>lets enter into another terribly onesided deal that the other countries will inevitably slack off on Alan NATO
Yea naw..

>>41656111
personal choices on an individual level don't do shit sure but governmental policy has huge implications and you're the ones who think an unsustainable industry should be allowed to rape all the ecosystems of the earth in their death spasms without any governmental oversight
would you be ok with letting an industry go unchecked that was making a bunch of money and creating a bunch of jobs but that the vast majority of experts in the field said would result in a quarter of the world's population inevitably getting cancer in 200 years time?

>>41656111
>know all you fucks drive cars and buy products of the shelf.
I bike to work and only drive to go to the store.
>You have no power to make a difference and neither do I
Nice defeatist attitude. Let people walk all over you.
>The more we cripple our economy here the more China India, africa and every other third world shit hole will increase their emissions
A) It's funny because China and India are working towards oil independence. Go look up India's solar farm.
B) There are other industries we can invest in. Oil and Coal are not the end all be all.
I don't understand why you people are so attached at the hip to oil and coal. You realize there are alternative industries we can be building jobs in?

>>41656126
So we shouldn't try to make any progress because nobody else is trying to make progress (which is bullshit btw).
Also, the US is one of the biggest producers of carbon dioxide, so we have a bigger mess to clean up.

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>scientific studies on climate change
>it's proven science!
>scientific studies on relation between race and iq
>...

>>41656111
I would switch to a metro, bus, electric car, or otherwise the second I was given the chance. But as of right now it's unfeasible for me.

>>41656150
>a subset of people i disagree with are hypocrites
>therefore science denialism is fine even though the future of the world is on the line
also i don't deny correlation between race and iq, the difference is race/iq studies are only descriptive, they don't tell us anything about what needs to be done legislatively. denying climate science denies that there is a problem that desperately needs solving, hence delaying the solving of the problem and putting us even farther beyond the point of no return

>>41656194
are you US? you have the car and oil industries to thank for that too
you wonder why the US has such shit public transport and railways compared to the rest of the developed world? cos the auto, fossil fuel and airline industries lobby the government for pork barrel projects or to restrict infrastructure spending to shit like highways

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>>41656224
>they don't tell us anything about what needs to be done legislatively
Remove negroid.

>>41656256
>scientific studies on relation between race and iq
>it's proven science!
>scientific studies on climate change
>...

>>41656150
>let me bring up a completely irrelevant topic

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>>41656274
This isn't an argument on climate change. It's pointing out the left's hypocrisy when it comes to """"science"""". Same thing with transgender freaks.

>>41655623
>I come to 4chan for the anonymous culture where it doesn't matter who you are or how long you posted here, the only thing that matters is the content of your post.
>Let me judge the man behind the post instead of his post itself

You have to go back.

>>41656280
This isn't an argument on the left's hypocrisy.
This is an argument about climate change.
I don't give a flying fuck what the left thinks.

>>41656289
Boogie pls

>>41656277
This is how you know you've won.
They start baiting other topics to try and shift the argument.

>>41655623
Boogie's emissions are responsible for 7% of the world's global warming gasses

>>41656280
but he already adresses that he, and most reasonable lefties don't deny the correlation between IQ and Race. yes, the facts show blacks have a lower iq, but there is the bigger questions that these don't answer. for example, if you took those same "facts" from america, yes it would show black people are dumber, but what about when you control for socio-economic status? oh things don't look so scewed there now do they.

Like the other guy said, these facts don't lead to any legislative changes, climate science does, not to mention investing in green/renewable energy in the middle/long run is VASTLY superior economicly then propping up a dying industry.

by the way, your boy trump XO'd the clean water act so companies can poison your drinking water for short term economics gains. enjoy when your town turns into flint michigan.

>>41656303
>arguing on the internet
>winner
Oh I am laffing

>>41656310
Me too :^)

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>>41656293
The OP is about "science" you mongoloid.
>>41656308
>but he already adresses that he, and most reasonable lefties don't deny the correlation between IQ and Race.
Show me proof of this.
> yes it would show black people are dumber, but what about when you control for socio-economic status? oh things don't look so scewed there now do they.
Actually it shows that the poorest whites commit less crimes than the richest blacks.

>>41656308
Also,
>Like the other guy said, these facts don't lead to any legislative changes, climate science does
And why do you think they don't lead to any changes?

>>41656329
So what's your point?
Because the left is full of hypocrites that some how invalidates scientific evidence of global warming?
Why would bring up global warming in your post if you didn't want to talk about global warming?
Good attempt at a strawman.

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>>41656339
You mean the studies that told us we would be underwater by now? Why don't the "climate experts" tell us exactly what the climate would be like without human influence?

>Why would bring up global warming in your post if you didn't want to talk about global warming?
Because the initial tweet didn't even mention it? All he talks about is science, so I mention two controversial "science" issues.

>>41655706

>brownie points

back2reddit

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>>41655685
when people dont agree with me they're being trendy!

>>41656360
>>41656360
>You mean the studies that told us we would be underwater by now
funny you should mention that
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/feb/23/us-coastal-cities-flooding-climate-change-sea-level-study

>>41656335
because you can't legislate based on race, even when trends are dramatically apparent. aborigines in australia have incredibly high rates of alcoholism, does that mean they should ban all aborigines from buying alcohol?
my main point is that even if blacks are on average stupider than whites, in the same way women might be on average stupider than men, there are savant blacks and women and white male retards, and when it comes to the law everyone is treated as an individual. judging and categorising people by their most superficial traits (race, gender, sexual preference etc) is what the sjws do and we all rightly hate them for it, don't fall into that trap

>>41656380
>Climate Central
Clearly unbiased.

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>>41656401
>scientific studies on climate change
>...

>>41655656

lel

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>>41656396
>because you can't legislate based on race, even when trends are dramatically apparent.
Rhodesia and South Africa, until the west started supporting the wrong side.
>aborigines in australia have incredibly high rates of alcoholism, does that mean they should ban all aborigines from buying alcohol?
Yes.
> judging and categorising people by their most superficial traits (race, gender, sexual preference etc) is what the sjws do and we all rightly hate them for it, don't fall into that trap
>race is only superficial

>>41656405
>Scientific studies are the word of God and can't at all be biased
I bet you still support eugenics too

>>41655623
He should probably start by feeding himself to the poor.

>>41656440
You sound like one of those liberals that doesn't want to believe a scientific study that shows the relationship between race and IQ.
Remember it's only science if you agree with it.

Oh look, it's /pol/ coming to shit up yet another thread with inane ramblings. Please, tell us more about how leftists are hypocrites and climate scientists are all liars because some MS paint image told you so.

>>41656405
>It is finally worth remembering that many other factors, not linked to human activity, contribute
to local sea level rise, and thus to total and residual flooding (Table 3). Such contributors include
global sea-level change unrelated to 20th century anthropogenic global warming, as well as natural
variability in atmospheric/ocean dynamics, the ongoing response to the end of the last ice age,
and local land motion. While less important than AGSLR at most study gauges (Table 3, final two
columns), these factors compound the accelerating flood challenges that coastal communities
already face.
Hmmmm....

Anyways, I was referring to the studies from 15 years ago on "climate change" that put new york city underwater, not small floods.

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>>41656427
Things wouldn't be as bad as there are if the left didn't coddle minorities and actually forced them to improve their standards.

>>41656303
>This is how you know you've won.
Hello Scott Adams!

You wanna help the world? Start now. Get reusable water bottles. Bring your own mug when you get coffee. Carpool. Take the bus once a week. Ask for a plate and real silverware if you buy a pastry and eat it at a cafe. Recycle your junk mail. Don't just throw it in the garbage. Don't throw away your old clothes, sheets, towels. Donate them to an animal shelter, they'll gladly take it. Don't keep your PC on when you're not home. Turn off all the lights at night. Go vegan. Don't lift, you eat more food than you need when trying to build muscle. Grow a beard. Get a tattoo of a chair on your left wrist. Tattoo a treble clef on your right forearm. This starts with you. Activism is great but tweeting how appalled you are isn't gonna stop shit.

>>41656427
fuckwit, race IS superficial when you're judging an individual person, thats my whole point. if the average white male was dramatically more retarded than any other group but you were still exactly as you are, would you want legislative measures in place that disadvantaged you because of the group's average?

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>>41656480
Yes. My reasoning isn't based on emotion, like yours is. Thankfully, your scenario is false.

>>41656490
>My reasoning isn't based on emotion
>It's based on MS Paint images I found on /pol/

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>>41656508
>facts=emotion

>>41656458
Yes? No one is arguing that the earth doesn't naturally give off carbon dioxide which heats up the atmosphere. The problem is humans are putting more of it in the atmosphere and fucking up earths ability to absorb it.
You'll notice there are more flooding days in table 3 attributed to AGSLR than other factors.
Anyways, do you think a giant flood is just going to appear overnight?
It starts with small floods. We've been seeing small floods more frequently in recent years. This kind of stuff takes time. Longer than your life scale, but just because it isn't going to affect us for another 200 years, doesn't mean we should ignore it.

>>41655839
More like won. The people working the coal industry will retire in 10 years and their children will be propped up by there earnings to get a job in renewables.

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>>41656513
>you'll be underwater in 50 years
>w-wait we mean't 200 years!

>>41656528
I don't think that's how that works, but ok.

>>41656538
>the oceans aren't rising
>it's just a myth
You can believe whatever you want, but you can't argue with facts.

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>>41656547
>oceans rose and fell for thousands of years
Perhaps retarded Floridians shouldn't build houses below sea level on the coast.

Alright, let's pretend climate change is real.

How is leaving an agreement that has the USA funding India and China, while they don't have to lower emissions, denying science?

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>>41656280
>>41656256
>>41656150
>>41656329
>>41656360
shoo shoo mr. tomato

>>41655623
10/10 troll

>>41656577
>implying I have anything better to do

>>41656564
It's not, and nobody thinks so except in your deluded fantasies.

>>41656586
So why is Boogie claiming it is? Why is everyone in the MSM claiming it is? Why is every leftist faggot claiming it is?

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>>41656554
here are some things that you can probably agree with
>there's been an increase in carbon dioxide output in recent years
>the sea level has been risen much higher in recent years
>we know that carbon dioxide has an insulating effect
>we know heat melts ice
and before you say something stupid like "water is denser than ice so the tides should fall" remember that not all the ice is in the ocean

do you see a pattern here?
again you can believe whatever the fuck you want, but don't go around pretending like the evidence is obvious.

>>41656581
same

>>41656605
>graph doesn't even finish the 20th century
Hmmmm.....

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>>41655623
>Says this
>Also says the laws of thermodynamics don't apply to him

>>41656599
calm down with the victim complex buddy, none of what you said is true

>>41656090
>Dying industries
Gonna need a citation on that. If it wasn't for regulations in the USA we'd have so much more oil, effectively taking out transit companies and foreign interest.

>>41656138
Notice how you're not making any arguments? Change that.

>>41656797
The reason Trump won all those coal states was because he promised to bring back their jobs.
The truth of the matter is coal is dying. Coal is losing to natural gas because it's cheaper.
Renewables are becoming cheaper and will eventually overtake fossil fuels.
The fossil fuel industry has a limited amount of time.
By pumping money into it, you are only delaying the inevitable.

Fossil fuels will eventually run out regardless of how much we have on hand.
And once we run out of fossil fuel, there will be no more jobs in the fossil fuel industry.

The smart idea would be to invest in other emerging energy industries and stop prolonging the inevitable.

I also want to reiterate that it doesn't matter how much oil we have or how much oil we find. It is a matter of how quickly we use it versus how quickly it is made. We will run out if we use it up more quickly than it's created.
And just for clarification it takes millions of years to make a barrel of oil. We burn almost 100 million barrels a day world wide.

Anyone ever notice how there's not mindset for the positives of global warming? All this carbon dioxide is going to come our anyway, we're merely the middle man. Warmer climates would be more conducive to life. As far as environmental concerns grow yes we shouldn't be destroying the environment to get natural resources, however treating every opportunity to get those resources as "raping the environment" is ludicrous. There are better ways to get resources. There's an alternative though. If you love the land that much, THEN GET A GROUP TO BUY AND MAINTAIN IT. Then you won't have anyone bothering your land again unless you sell it, wouldn't that be some irony.

>>41655642
yes he is

>>41655623

Is he the planet?

>>41655656
criminally underrated

When did /fit/ get infested by left wing bullshit?

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We must enter this non binding agreement to possibly reduce emissions by 2100 even though we'll be underwater by 2020. It doesn't matter that we'll have to pay billions so into a global fund so other countries will take part, it doesn't matter that are emission output is already staggeringly lower than developing countries like China and India. So it's time to pay your carbon taxes and make some sacrifices. No the elite will continue to fly privately and build seafront mansions as our lord and saviour science demands.

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>>41655623
>Fat people refuse to believe basic principals like calories in, calories out
>Will endless mock you for not buying into every new climate change fad

>>41656838
I agree our consumption of oil is too high. We need to use it at the moment though, until nuclear is made safer, or a more efficient energy is made. IMHO there's no way we can keep jobs for everyone all the time. So eventually people are gonna die or UBI will be a thing.

>>41656859
china and india are already moving towards oil independence and the US is number 2 when it comes to CO2 production, so i don't know what your argument is.

>>41656838
The only thing I'd push back on is that there is no subsidies for oil, coal or natural gas. It's not a propped up industry . The same is unfortunately not true for green energy.

>>41656877
>We need to use it at the moment though, until nuclear is made safer, or a more efficient energy is made
that's great, but we should start moving away from fossil now. we aren't just going to get off of fossil fuels all at once.
this stuff takes time and there is no better time than now.
>>41656885
>The only thing I'd push back on is that there is no subsidies for oil, coal or natural gas. It's not a propped up industry .
That's a load of bullshit that can easily refuted.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X16304867

>>41656877
>until nuclear is made safer
Fucking this. I wish idiots on both side of nuclear energy would stop hyperventilating and look at a reasonable stance.

>>41656878
Is that why China just built a bunch a new coal plants. You do realise that neither will achieve oil independence anytime before 2100. By which time we'll all either be boiled alive or underwater. But please continue to pat yourself on the back. If you were serious about climate change you'd advocate more nuclear plants and stopping any international aid.

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>>41655729
((( )))

>>41656929
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-energy-renewables-idUSKBN14P06P
https://futurism.com/india-just-broke-a-world-record-with-its-new-solar-farm/

Sorry what was that?

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>>41655656

>>41656929
>stopping any international aid.
You realize that GLOBAL warming is GLOBAL issue? The water isn't going to stop rising for the US because US got off is 100% renewable.
We can't stop it unless everyone stops it.
So yes, it is good for us to help other countries develop so they can stop using fossil fuels.

You people are so short-sighted. You only ever think about how something can directly benefit yourself. If you can't think of an immediate tangible benefit, you won't go through with it.

>>41656941
Cool publicity stunts Ahmed. They're still building conventional power plants and burning fossil fuels and a higher rate that most other countries and will continue to to so.

>>41656289
This

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>>41656963
hahaha typical nu-summer fag

remember down the street not across the road

>>41656978
http://ceenews.info/en/power-statistics-china-2016-huge-growth-of-renewables-amidst-thermal-based-generation/

Is renewable energy going to happen all at once?
No. That's not realistic.
Are they moving in the right direction?
Yes.

Keep clinging to your fossil fuels.
They will be dead soon.

>>41656932
so what?

>>41656963
>We can't stop it unless everyone stops it.


Which is why it's a bullshit waste of time. China will never stop, nor will India, nor will Africa, and that's all that's needed for global warming to continue. The Paris thing would cost us 100 TRILLION Dollars and would MAYBE reduce the Earth's temperature by 3/10ths at the end of the 21st century.

It's a fucking money grabbing scam, and th fact that everyone falls for it with such indignation just proves how fucking retarded you all are.

We could fucking colonise half the fucking Galaxy with a 100 trillion fucking dollars, but you fucking cunts would rather pat yourselves on the back over how environmentally friendly you are, than make any real fucking effort to actually do shit.

>>41655839
wrong anon. there will be coal 100y+ stoping pulling "facts" out of your ass

>>41657008
If by soon you mean in 2+ centuries, then yeah, soon. Fucking idiot.

>>41656003
>What if, instead of taking two pieces of candy everyday and replacing it with one
>We don't put any candy back but just take one piece of candy everyday
And that's fracking, everybody

why did >>41655642 have to prevent a fpbp?

>>41657054
damn son u mad

>>41657054
200 years is really fucking soon.

>>41655656
fucking BTFO

>>41656510
>over exaggerating statistics by not controlling for population
The equivalent of emotion.
>same or similar number of murders every year for 41 years
"no"

>>41655642
YES HE IS. What science? What scientists? It's the most intellectually lazy position to hold and one that nobody in any scientific field would follow.

>>41656150
>my opponents pick only the science that agrees with their agenda, so they're hypocrites
>which is why I only pick the science that agrees with my agenda
You're just as bad as the libs.

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>>41656839
yes goyim
life is thriving
climate change won't force animals to migrate or die
climate change won't cause pest species like bark beetles to expand and destroy trees
ocean acidification is great for sea life
keep buying oil goyim

>>41658327
Nobody is doing shit about the ocean though, and unless we actually force China and India to deindustrialize the only thing our "climate change" legislation and treaties will do is destroy the primacy of the west. Given that we treat the environment infinitely better than any other developed race or culture, that seems like a bad plan for the planet.

>>41656003
Virgin detected.

If this deal was really about life or death, why wouldn't they try to renegotiate with the President? Surely meeting halfway would be better than nothing. If this is about saving lives why throw a tantrum and tell him to fuck off?

>>41658053
Yes but we'll all be underwater by then according to your (((studies)))

>>41658343
>Nobody is doing shit about the ocean though
cbf finding it but this is incorrect, there is a huge project to filter out plastics

>>41658327
I'm sure evolution will sort it all out, just pray to science.

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>>41655840
>>41655852
>democrats suddenly care about children
>yet can't stop killing babies, or disarming us

>>41658538
>we need to import millions of people into the first world where their carbon footprint skyrockets

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>>41656932
>>41655729
>>41655798
>>41655840
the greenhouse effect is bullshit, it is not a threat to humanity whatsoever, and if it ever becomes one, we already have a solution.

We can clone sheep, and grow human ears off of the back of a rat... what makes you idiots think that we don't have the technology to replicate the respiration of a tree?

We have had machines with the capability to do so since world war 2, we now have machines which produce no discharge other than oxygen and pure carbon, and operate at 800x the efficiency of trees per square meter, that is not even accounting for the fact that they can be stacked.

They are cheap and easy to produce, if every household in europe was forced to buy one (£400 GBP) in order to be on the electricity grid, there would be no imbalance in CO2...

Fuck all you whiny hippies, and your faggot trees.

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>>41655623
Who here believes in global warming, but isn't planning to have kids so they don't give a fuck?

>b-but think of le future of le hooman race
>u-u have to care about muh chilruns

Nope. I'm driving whatever the fuck I want and being as wasteful as I want to be with ZERO guilt. Normies grandchildren can clean up my mess lmao.

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>>41655701
>WAAAH MUH TREES

Cry more bitch nigga

>>41655798
>the guardian
>THINK OF LE CHILDREN

lol I give zero shits

>>41655840
>globalist corporations
>bad

They are job creators and drive innovation

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>>41655798
>theguardian

>>41656577
>mr. tomato

I changed it to <3 SOL INVICTUS <3 a while ago.

I'll be back later, don't worry senpai.

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>PLEASE think about the children!!

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>I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE

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>Science has LITERALLY never been wrong- EVER!!!

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>(AUTISTIC SCREECHING)

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>>41655798

>your children's future

That's where you're wrong kiddo.

>>41655839
I'm an engineer in consulting and work with contura / alpha and consol. You're right: the industry is dying. It will limp along MAYBE for another decade.

People that bought into the ,"I'm bringing coal back" are just misinformed and uneducated. Sorry

>/fit/ - Fitness

>>41658666
BE GONE SATAN

>>41658666
We're taking about the fitness of the planet

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>>41658693
Lost

>>41655623
should probably off himself if he wants to save the planet
cows are the chief cause of global warming

>>41655748

LETS PAY $20 TRILLION (YES TRILLION) TO THE UN, BASED ON WHAT IS NOW PROVEN FALSIFIED DATA, TO REDUCE TEMPERATURE BY 0.2 DEGREES CELCIUS IN THE YEAR 2100 - ACCORDING TO OUR CO2-TEMP MODELS WHICH HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE TOTALLY INCORRECT AND EXAGGERATED AND 98% WRONG SINCE THE YEAR 1998, WHEN NO NOTICEABLE INCREASE IN TEMPERATURE HAS BEEN RECORDED (EXCEPT THIS EL NINO YEAR LOL) SINCE THAT TIME

>>41656839
>If you love the land that much, THEN GET A GROUP TO BUY AND MAINTAIN IT.
yes sure let me just buy the entire earth
mum increased my pocket money by 10ct/week this year anyway.

>>41656863
>climate change fad
leave my planet

>>41656963
>You realize that GLOBAL warming is GLOBAL issue? The water isn't going to stop rising for the US because US got off is 100% renewable.
If the US had 100% renewable energy I guarantee it would be cheaper than oil (the only reason to switch to 100% renewable) and we would be even more of an economic power house forcing other countries to change to keep up with us and switch from coal to renewable.

>>41655798

> theguardian

fucking neck yourself you retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5M1qtN62yk

>>41655623

He's one to talk. His entire lifestyle contributes to the escalation of climate change from the amount of food he eats, waste in natural resources transporting his fatness, and the fact I have no gf.

>>41656118
Nigger we need oil and gas for electricity, because envirocucks can't allow nuclear.
>inb4 renewable
Do you have any idea of how much power an electrical furnace needs?

>>41658555
I would like to know more about these super tree boxes

>>41656932

FAKE FUCKING NEWS

USE UNADJUSTED RAW DATA YOU MORON. NOT ADJUSTED AND "CORRECTED" BY IPCC.

>>41656877
>>41656928
Not "fucking this". Nuclear is already incredibly safe. It has been for years. The reason we haven't switched over to nuclear power for almost everything is because it has a huge start up cost that needs to be subsidized by the government and because those against it run huge fear mongering campaigns against it.

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>>41655729

>>41656308
>what about when you control for socio-economic status? oh things don't look so scewed there now do they.
They actually do

Reminder that you don't give two shits about the environment and your health if you're not a vegan.

>>41658643
>>41658633
>>41658625
>>41658618
Time magazine is not a scientific publication

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

>The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus
>An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales.

>>41658819
vegans should be gassed with the jews

>>41658833
Hitler himself didn't even eat meat.

>>41658840
and he's dead now so he doesn't need to be gassed.

vegans and kikes still exist

>>41655685
i read that as "hypocritical moon" after the previous thread comment lol

>>41656150
You know, all of those studies show no correlation when children are adopted, right? Bring up a black kid in upstate New York to upper class whiteys, and, guess what? They turn out the same as any other child brought up by upper class whiteys. Race is a cultural thing, and black people have more genetic diversity than the rest of the "races" of the world combined. If you're going to say stupid shit, at least do a little bit of research first.

>>41655642
But he is...

>>41656329
>Actually it shows that the poorest whites commit less crimes than the richest blacks.
[Citation needed]

>>41658890
They literally do not and there are adoption studies that show this incredibly clearly.

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>>41655798
>theguardian

>>41658917
Link those studies, then.

>>41658890
>and black people have more genetic diversity than the rest of the "races" of the world combined
Lot of good that did Africa chofl

>>41658890
They're like that when they're young. But all the data is showing that iq is about 80% genetic by adulthood.

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SOMEONES

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>>41659263
GOTTA

>>41655840
>>41655852
Good. Let them fucking die. You have already condemned your children to pain and an eventual death. What does it matter in what manner it happens? Go fuck yourself

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>>41659272
PAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY

>>41658574
You need to spread your autistic genes so we can have future generations wasting their lives on shitholes like this. Fuck the children, instead think of the boards, anon.

>>41655623
>help the planet
he's talking about himself again
anyway, when is his surgery scheduled?

>>41656118
should we cripple our own economies and give the third world a minimum of 100 billion dollars in the process

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>>41655685
There's no hard evidence for human caused climate change. Personally I think it can be either way given how corrupted current scientists are. But USA pulling of that Paris deal will marginally change anything. Russia and China shit on it and combined they emit probably like 10 times than what USA does.

I am seriously worried about China starting to dig for methane clathrate. This shit can really turn planet Earth into Venus. Puny CO2 is absorbed by flora.

>>41658890
>>41658917
The delicious thing about this is, even IF black people brought up in an "upstate" New York type of environment end up doing a lot better than their Baton Rouge counterparts, which is partly true (they do better, but not as much as their white cohorts), then the problem isn't just their situation, it's their fucking disgustingly backwards dindu culture holding them back.

>>41655839
This is a board for teenagers and manchildren autists, how many people do you think work in coal here?
What people care about, which was in the post you replied to and deliberately avoided, is hundreds of billions spent on government initiatives with little accountability.

Sorry guys time to stop mining rare earth materials to make your smartphones and computers, real sorry guys.

>>41659379
>it's their fucking disgustingly backwards dindu culture holding them back.
culture is based on genes and generational learning so dindu culture will stay shit as long as it can until it's forced to evolve

>>41658555
we can't cure cold. We can't do nothing on planet scale. You can't be that stupid. If methane contained in earth was suddenly released, we're fucked. We're gonna boil, like lobsters

>>41659411
but have in mind I'm not saying it's human that's gonna be responsible for this. It happened in the past it might happen in the future. No matter if we help it or not

>>41655852
This is you
>haha stop having children the world is overpopulated
>money is bad and evil, fuck corporations
>we have to save the earth, can't you think of the children?

This is also you
>let's import third-worlders who reproduce a lot
>to give corporations cheap labor
>in our countries where their carbon footprint will skyrocket

>>41659426
Don't forget
>we need to import low skill low pay workers to work the low skill low pay jobs
>all the low skill low pay jobs will soon be automated

>>41656224
>the future of the world is on the line
lmaooooooooo, liberals out here thinking they're superheros

>>41655642
I swear to god, every post, every pic, every video he makes is from that very same chair. Does this fat fuck even stand up sometimes ?

>>41656256
Nuke all the brown people, nuclear winter worth how many carbon credits?

>>41659521
>Nuke all the brown people
and destroy all that land we could colonize?
no thanks retard.

>>41659435
Yeah. I mean, I was a legal immigrant for a good part of my life.

But take Germany for example... how the FUCK did they have such a lack of foresight? They will be dealing with the repercussions of what Merkel did forever.

>>41658478
I'm not that guy.
You're just a retard.

>>41659408
We might have made them more retarded than mainland dindus so that's on us.

Don't quote me on that.

Is Africa as much of a shithole as Kony 2012 made me think it was or was that just a meme?

>>41659626
I'm 90% sure that kony was not a huge issue in 2012 and his most active years were way earlier but I could be wrong

>>41659667
So the question is: did we MAKE them into this new breed of dindu or were they like that to begin with?

I know they sucked hard in the beginning due to their shitty desert malaria environment, but after we colonized their asses they should have had a nice start up investment to get shit going by themselves... No?

I'm deficient in my African history.

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Can any climate fags refute this?

All this in response to Paris - the international agreement will literally do nothing to affect climate change. There is already too much CO2 in the atmosphere; it's already warming up the planet. If we want to stop global warming, we need to figure out how to either take CO2 out of the air, or provide a counter cooling measure. Reducing our output of CO2 doesn't matter that much; even if we had 0 CO2 emissions tomorrow, the planet would continued to heat up.

>>41659822
The parts of the agreement that are actually about lessening emissions don't come into effect until 2030. The part about paying other countries and respecting minorities comes into effect much sooner than that I would guess.

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geoengineering is the only hope
Putting sulfates into the stratosphere costs 2 billion a year
Why isn't Elon Musk researching this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc_4Z1oiXhY

>>41659843
What's your point? The agreement does nothing to affect climate change; that's my point.

>>41658761
>i can't accomplish anything until i control everyone and everything
Fucking leftists

>>41659870
They've been dumping metals in the lower atmosphere to reflect sunlight and fuck withthe weather since the 80's. It has the unfortunate effect of toxifying the soil when it falls back to earth.

>>41659768
we colonized them, and they sold some of their people to us and bitched about the white man colonizing them (fairly) as we had no right to their land so we pulled out and all the infrastructure we had set up went to shit. now we send them aid money and their population is booming with no advancement in culture or at least any culture that resembles white people's.

part of what contributes to gang violence in america is the illegality of drugs which takes the white man out of the market and allows gangs to make money to fund their other criminal activities.

another part is a lack of male authority figures in black homes. in the 70s reagan started "no fault divorce" and even before that in the 60's there has been an ever more liberal presence in america which has reduced religions influence over the country and reduced the presence of a of community that holds you accountable for your actions and increased promiscuity among all races. this has utterly decimated the nuclear family in black communities.

while there are outside factors that contribute to the state of blacks it is foolish to say that these the only cause as all of those things have affected the white community as well but to a much lesser extent.


I like to think of it as if a person has the genetics to reach 6' but is underfed and malnurished they will only be 5'9"
but a person who has the genetics to be 5'9" and is fed the same diet will only be 5'4"

>>41659874
I was agreeing with you

>>41659316
I'd rather have money and freetime

>>41659768
>>41659972
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A0C4_88ub_M

>>41659918
the stratosphere is not the lower atmosphere
this technique would buy us 20-40 years

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>>41655623
>be a corpulent, selfish slob
>pontificate to others to live a planet friendly lifestyle
>fails to realize that animal agriculture is the biggest contributor to "climate change"

the absolute STATE of this morbidly obese, two faced fraud.

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>>41655852
We do, and because "Climate Change" is a hoax, we want to have the maximum resources to pass on to our children, rather than wasting it on solving a problem that doesn't exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RuverrEZ4

>>41655623
I guess Boogie should go vegan then.

>>41655656
top fucking kek

>>41659789

t. reddit

>>41656605
Forgot to mention that cold and warm water molecules take up different amounts of space. Think about that shit.

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>>41656773
>none of what you said is true
Having fun living in your bubble?

>>41660208
t. reddit clearly has btfo /fit/

>>41656090
>a job when the oil dries up.
by then solar and wind tech will be far more efficient m8. oil isn't gonna run out like tomorrow lad

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>>41655656

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Fat people have a higher carbon footprint than skinny people. Which makes him a hypocrite for not losing weight.

Also, if he's that concerned about man's impact on the environment, and suggests that individuals can take action even if others don't, he (and everyone else that feels that way desu) can totally take steps to completely eliminate their own impact on the earth's climate. Pic related.

>>41656801
You are the one who didn't make an argument.

>>41660087
>le fat hate meme

Hello Plebbit!

>>41660425
>meme
>>41654605

>>41658769
I'm not saying climate change isn't real but the whole "green" thing is so obviously a marketing ploy

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>claims to care about the environment
>doesn't support global depopulation
>doesn't oppose rampant expanding of the technocratic system
>doesn't want to limit consumption
>wants to give the rich more money instead
No one talks about things that would actually make a difference

>>41660522
Yeah no shit. Those threads weren't even a thing till /r/fathate got banned and they all came here. It used to be Fat People Stories, not hate newfag.

>>41660589
>Fat People Stories
>oy vey semantics are important goy don't you know nothing?

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Tell me this, why should I care about restoring the Earth if I'll be dead in 60-70 years maximum and I don't want any snotty nosed kids?

>>41660606
We didn't used to hate fat people, we'd just talk about funny run ins

>>41660551
>wants to save every starving African
>wants to save every migrant the crosses the med
And liberals wonder why we ignore them.

>>41655656
Literally asked out loud.

If people are so worried about the environment, why not donate to the green energy industry. Why do they need to have the Government to step in and do shit? If enough people contribute, surely they can get stuff off the ground.

>>41660656
>but you need to care about the future!

But wait. Liberals always tell me that we shouldn't care about the past. They say conservative values and traditions are a social construct so they shouldn't be regarded. Well by that logic why should I care about the distant future?

>>41659972
Totally agree. I just hang out with a bunch of SJW's so I feel as, even though I did not drink the rainbow koolaid, I might have gotten some via diffusion.

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>>41660425
>too stupid to refute the argument
>puts words in my mouth so he can attack a strawman

0/10 you fat, projecting little bitch lol.

>>41660719

Uh...the past and the future are not the same thing, anon. I'm not sure you really thought that one through, because that's about the worst false equivalence I've ever read.

>>41659363
>There's no hard evidence for human caused climate change.

http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

Try reading any scientific literature at all before making claims, buddy.

>>41660589
>>41660668
Regardless of fat hate or fat stories I like the threads because they remind me why I need to stay on my diet

>>41658555
>what makes you idiots think that we don't have the technology to replicate the respiration of a tree
The problem is the farming of animals like cows and pigs that constantly produce large amounts of methane and fecal waste

>>41658202
Ok tard, accounting for population, the muder rate in 1980 is .05%, in 1995 it was 5%. Negroes are mentally deficient savages and basing legislation on the small minority of smart nigs
is bad for everyone.

>>41656366
>brownie points isn't a commonly used term
How long have you been waiting to say that?

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>/pol/ ruins yet another thread

>>41656150
you know iq is primarily linked to upbringing and not genetics, right? the reason niggers tend to be stupid is poverty and the retard ape culture that comes with it.

>>41660861
Chicken and egg scenario. What difference does it make in the end?

>>41660814
www.google.com You can shove up your ass your link, cause it's worth shit.
Climate always changed. Without human intervention. And sometimes the changes were so drastic what happens now looks like nothing compared to it
Is the current change man caused? I don't know. But I wouldn't bet 2 cents on it, when tehre's so much disinformation on the subject.

>people actually believe climate change will end human life

The only way to stop climate change is with rigid population control and the extermination of lesser developed cultures. But we already know we will never have rigid population control nor will we will ever genocide entire groups of people shitting up the earth. So we need to just accept that we will destroy the environment and we will learn to live in it with artificial systems to replicate natural processes essential to survival. That is the best case scenario (barring compulsory abortions for low IQ citizens and genocide)

More likely is that we will destroy ourselves in a storm of nuclear hellfire.

Why do they have to fake data if the science is "settled"?

Kek the UN's own models claim that it MAY lower average global temp by .2 degrees by 2100. Also, why does the money we put in go to "developing" nations like China, Russia, and India? Paris Accords are a scam to move the elite's money around some more

>>41660969
And that .2 is assuming everybody does other shit on top of this one accord.

>>41655623

My first response is, "You first, fatty."

Secondly, while this seems good in theory, what if two scientists disagree on the best course of action? Which one do you listen to "just because they are a scientist"?

>>41655852
the way I see it there are 2 options

>fuck climate change, live life to the fullest earn a lot of money and let the corporations that pay my salary fuck the planet

>try to limit myself in all aspects of life just so that the planet lives for 200y instead of just 100y which is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things

I guess it sucks for my childrens children but one generation more or less doesnt really matter anyway so might as well live like kings until the earth collapses.

>>41661074
You listen to the one in a higher position of authority because that's how science works. Wait? No?

>>41658754
unironically this

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>>41658890
>you should adopt a black kid

>>41660923
>Is the current change man caused? I don't know.
NASA, the IPCC, and 97% of scientists know, and they agree the main cause is anthropogenic. The consensus is that climate change is anthropogenic. Stop being retarded and actually look at the facts.

>B-but muh appeal to authority/popularity

Scientific consensus is achieved by having all the data provide the same conclusions. Scientists understand that, and thus agree with the consensus.

>>41661166
Okay. The main cause is man. Let's assume that's true. How much of an effect are we having?

>>41658890
>>41658916
>>41658934
Not that guy, but this article is an excellent overview, and links to other articles discussing adoption studies.

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2017/01/07/race-and-iq-the-case-for-genes/

>>41661185
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-minimum-arctic-sea-ice-extent
https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification
https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/effects-of-rising-atmospheric-concentrations-of-carbon-13254108

Humans are the biggest net producers of carbon dioxide on the planet. Carbon dioxide has a slew of effects on our climate, ranging from higher temperatures and melting ice to more acidic oceans and changes in plant ecosystems. The IPCC, NASA and NOAA have plenty more information readily available on their websites.

>>41661300
Just talk to me like a person and sum it up for me. Give me numbers.

>>41655623
>do what the scientists tell you

that smoking is good for my lungs, eugenics is a great idea, the world is flat?

>>41660861
Then why do the genius outliers come out of african shitholes where the culture is eating babies?

>>41661360
>eugenics is a great idea
to be fair, humanity would function better if diseases were bred out

>>41655623
Animal husbandry is actually the biggest creator of greenhouse gasses.

Based on Boogie's weight and eating habits, if he died off it would be as effective as shuttting down 5 coal plants, and without the lost jobs

>>41661166
there's no consensus, retard. Unless you meant CNN, maybe it is there. And you know no scientists, because you're stupid.

>>41660856
The thread was not fitness related from the start brainlet

You can't ruin what's already trash

>>41661352
>>41661352
>Give me numbers.
CO2 has risen from 320ppm to 410 ppm in 50 years, a 28% increase.
Global temperature has increased by 1,2°c in the last 100 years.
Sea levels have risen by over a foot since measurements began.
Half of all Arctic sea ice has vanished in the last 40 years.
Oceans have become more acidic, their pH dropping by ~0.1 since measurements began.
Plants either show positive or negative reactions to increased CO2 depending on species.
This means hotter days, more desertification, large swathes of densely inhabited land being flooded, massive changes in marine and polar ecosystems, mainly massive declines in species populations and extinction in some cases, as well as many plants who like CO" crushing other plants and disrupting established ecosystems.

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>>41660781
>2016
>being this mad

For every animal you don't eat, imma eat three while pretending to give a shit about the environment to bang liberal sloots. Stay mad little guy.

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Why the fuck don't we create a machine that sucks CO2 from the atmosphere or something. It would literally solve every problem, and would be far cheaper than propping up ineffective renewables.

Also, coal is a far more effective energy producer than Solar and Wind. This is one of the first things you learn in energy production courses. Main power plants are never solar or wind, Solar and wind are always supplementary in cases of great demand.

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>>41655656
Good job anon

>>41661501
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024/pdf;jsessionid=7A015E840E382E518E7763C764921E71.c1.iopscience.cld.iop.org

This triggers the /pol/tard

>>41660923
Dude Google and fact checks exist you know.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXhqmRYoR3k

>>41661600
Actually thou these guys are beyond redemption it seems.

>>41661586
>Why the fuck don't we create a machine that sucks CO2 from the atmosphere or something

They're called trees.

>>41661600
>66% expressed no position on global warming
wait what
I thought 97% of scientists endorsed it ?

>>41661600
>e find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed
AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming. Among abstracts expressing
a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.
Are you retarded on purpose or retarded for real? You said "97% of scientists know, and they agree the main cause is anthropogenic."
Reading comprehension, you stupid motherfucker. Dumbass armchair scientist, what did I expect.

>>41661645
>Among abstracts expressing
a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.

97% of those who answered did.

>>41661643
Isn't it a zero sum game though ? You can't really plant more trees to solve global warming.

>>41661586
Because CO2 needs to be recycled so that it can become oxygen again. This is why the earth is covered in such lush fauna. After the extinction events around the dinosaurs the first developed life above ground was plants and other fauna. This is because they 'breathe' Co2. So removing the Co2 would essentially just remove our atmosphere and kill us all.

>>41656059
>cycle
>randomly
Stop being retarded

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>>41661573
>keeps attacking strawmen

go ahead and point out where i said i thought climate change was a major issue. i'm gonna go ahead and spare you since i can tell you're poorly educated and highly unintelligent by simply telling you the following:

i do not think climate change is a major issue. i agree with president trump (whom i was the fifth in line to vote for as the polls opened) and his decision to withdraw from the useless, money wasting "paris agreement".

i'm just smart enough to know about the OTHER side of the argument. clearly you're too stupid to even recognize when someone is ON YOUR SIDE, so it doesn't surprise me that you're a mindless parrot who lacks the capacity for individual thought, so you just hop on over to /pol/ and ask them what YOUR opinion should be.

fuck off back to your safe space, idiot. you're making decent anti-liberal minded people look worse.

>>41661663
This is true we have to cut emmision. It's pretty much the only way.

>>41661659
>among abstracts endorsing a position
Yes, I read that part. But there is a considerable percentage (66%) that doesn't express an opinion on whether climate change is anthropogenic.

This research basically says that there are far more scientists who believe global warming is caused by people than scientists who believe it isn't, but there is an even larger amount of scientists who haven't attributed it to something yet.

>>41661663
>zero sum game

What? More trees = lowered CO2. How does planting more trees raise CO2 in equivalence to what they're consuming?

>>41661656
>97% of scientists know, and they agree the main cause is anthropogenic.
>97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming
>B-but what about the irrelevant studies who didn't say anything about the causes of climate change?

Why are climate change deniers so autistic? Clearly "scientists" isn't referring to every single scientist, it's referring to those who have done relevant research. But of course, debating facts is too hard so you have to resort to semantics.

>>41661674
Flora*

>>41661696
>there is an even larger amount of scientists who haven't attributed it to something yet.
Which makes them irrelevant in this case. since they've done no relevant research.

>>41661674
Too much CO2 is bad from what I get though (I haven't really researched global warming so I might be wrong), what we actually want is to keep it at a certain level, not take it all away.

>>41661701
Once again, you said " 97% of scientists know, and they agree the main cause is anthropogenic." That's pretty precise statement which is a lie or you just didn't understand what you read.
While in research you cited, 66,4% expressed no position
You're just a stupid motherfucker. And I express no position either, cause I'm not a dumbass who swallows everything like pelican.

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Just a friendly reminder that libshits could have stopped global warming decades ago through change of diet alone let alone all the chink plastic shit they buy.

>>41661562
Don't forget about the dozens of fauna species extinctions caused by increased Co2 levels.

>>41661741
and didn't the dindus burn down a whole bunch of forests hunting?

>>41661716
When you do a research, you don't necessarily have to attribute a problem to something.

This 66% aren't amateurs, they obviously looked at all the parameters determining climate and decided that you don't have the evidence to exclusively blame humans for the increase in temperatures.

>>41661700
It does not raise Co2 it's just like trying to cut on a 3x10 program while eating 3k plus cals. Your doing something about it but the results won't change unless u change the input.

>>41660848
If this was true, then why allow one to run as President of the U.S for eight years?

>>41661782
>Making the drain bigger in the sink doesn't matter bc the faucet is too big
>It's impossible to make the drain large enough
>Cars and appliances haven't been getting exponentially more efficient for the past 20 years

>>41661728
Wut........
Dude go back and read it. He's trying to explain that the scientists that HAVE done research are those that are being represented in the 97% value. He's also trying to make the point that they are the only relevant scientists to this topic because they are the ones performing studies and guiding the academic community with their findings. Not all scientists can study all fields, we humans and society would have no academic breakthroughs if it was that way.

It kind of seems that your just mad nitpicking his word choice in this argument rather than discussing the ideas at play here........

>>41661739
Consumerism should be represented as the number 1 cause of global warming. If people stopped buying and eating shit we would have alot less of these problems.

>>41661762
The dindus are always doing something wrong.

>>41661840
>He's trying to explain that the scientists that HAVE done research are those that are being represented in the 97% value
But that's simply not true. You can't read either. It's clearly said that of all research on the topic, 66,4% expressed no position. The other papers where climate change deniers or alarmist, both groups with their own agendas.

>>41661830
But that's what I'm saying? The more efficient cars and other large producers if Co2 get the easier it is for nature and trees to make up for the massive Co2 imbalance. My point is of course planting trees helps just like exercising helps but unless you fix your nutrition or carbon footprint in this case. You can't make the proper steps to fixing the issue.

Of course enlarging the drain would help but slowing the flow rate it as effective if not more.

>>41661728
>>41661768
t. didn't read the study
>0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming

These are the papers who actually examined the causes of global warming and didn't come to a conclusion of whether humans are responsible.
The rest are papers who were not about the causes of climate change, and were thus not relevant to the research.


If you had actually bothered to read the paper you'd have seen that Fig. 2 on page 4 shows that a majority of scientists who responded (including scientists who produced irrelevant papers) said climate change was man-made when asked, or over 60%, compared to less than 40% who didn't have an opinion. This means that a large chunk of the 66% of papers you love to moan about were written by scientists who know man-made climate change is real.
Now either read the paper instead of copy-pasting /pol/arguments or go back

>>41661919
False equivalence.

Tree sits there for 100+ years sucking up CO2. Thousands can be planted extremely easily.

Not that it really matters. As CO2 increases, trees and foliage just grow larger and convert more CO2 into oxygen anyway.

>>41661983
But there's a set rate. Don't you understand it's basic physics all energy that can be converted requires energy to be converted. These trees are not infinite Co2 sucking machines, they have limits to the oxygen they can produce in a given time frame.

>>41662037
>These trees are not infinite Co2 sucking machines
you realize you can just cut it down, bury it, plant more right?

the suns energy allows us to do this indefinitely.

>>41662054
Obviously. But you seem to be referring to these trees as if they do not need to be preserved. It could just be the bounds of internet conversation and not being able to communicate tone. But a fully developed tree that is 25+ years old produces a much larger amount of oxygen than a new sapling. Which is why I made my points. The most immediate solution to climate change is the lowering of emmision.

>>41662089
>climate change
>global warming
>global cooling

Make up your fucking mind.

>>41662106
>global cooling
>>41658826

>>41661983
I don't think we should be that worried about CO2, but methane. If Siberia melted, or chinese fucked up with their new methane clathrate extraction - we're fucked. Possibly human caused warming retards the next ice age. Which would be a good thing. Or not. And it will come anyway. Or the global warming is real and we're fucked. Who knows in this sea of disinformation.
You can't even trust scientists nowadays to be objective.

This thread shows how retarded the average liberal is

Literally no one is opposed to helping the environment.

The paris agreement is nothing more than more money leaving the US

It does nothing to stop the out of control beef and corn subsidied that wreck the environment.

It does nothing to stop China from dumping massive amounts of pollution.

It also subsidizes India to increase its coal mining production.

This is just more cuckening by the globalists and liberals eat it up because muh feels

>>41655623
I literally can not understand what he is trying to say with that tweet.
-What do the scientists tell anyone to do?
Does he mean dieticians or mathematicians?
-What changes to my life?
-How would my lifestyle help the planet?
What the fuck did he mean by this?

>>41661166
http://www.populartechnology.net/2014/12/97-articles-refuting-97-consensus.html

>>41662204
It's so disappointing that politicians will spend thousand enjoying fancy dinners while they meader over the thought of climate change when this could be done with a fucking Skype call any day of the week.

>>41662106
I don't know why your still trying to argue with me? I agree with your points (although I never mentioned global cooling?) . I'm just explain that there is no one course of action for this issue.

>>41655656
kek