>TFW you realized bodybuilding is a waste of time as a natural

>>41608444
it's not about getting super ripped and huge.
it's about your health and improving yourself.

>>41608465
lol

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>>41608465
>it's not about getting super ripped and huge
>it's about your health and improving yourself

>>41608444
Not really, you just have unrealistic goals, if youre that invested, why not hop on gear?

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>>41608465

>>41608444
Strength is where it's at. It sends off dangerous animal vibes that other predators pick up on and respect.

>>41608467
>>41608487

I love 17 year old /fit/

When you fags are 32 you will see the light. Health is wealth. Watching your friends degrade and collapse around you as you get older is depressing. Being sick and uncertain of your future is the worst feeling in the world. Lift for health you mongoloids.

Pretty much anyone will look good with the following, barring physical deformity:

>8-10% BF
>12 to 24 months of lifting with any decent routine

If you maintain the above criteria, you will look better than 99.99% of the Western population by your 25th birthday.

>>41610278
Word.

>>41610278
Chuch

>>41608465
even natural bodybuilding is NOT good for your health. The benefits of not being overweight are often counteracted by stressing your body with supplements, swings in calorie intake and constant break down of muscle.

You are better off being a normie, watching your weight and doing a bit of cardio if you are going for longevity.

>>41610352

>Supplements
>Natty
Pick one

>>41608444
You have it backwards, bro.

Bodybuilding is BEST done natural. What the fuck is wrong with you idiots? People almost always look better natty. Soft with a bit of body fat is more aesthetically pleasing than hard, grainy, and vascular. If you're only lifting for aesthetics, then steroids are only useful as a shortcut towards something you could have achieved on your own with a little bit more work. Not to mention that steroids could fuck with your health (heart/liver problems), your wallet (expensive af), and ironically even your appearance (acne, unsightly vascularity).

"Lifting for strength" is different, since numbers are objective whereas beauty is subjective. There is a certain amount of weight you can lift while natty and a certain amount of weight you can lift while on PEDs, and the latter amount is objectively higher.

But let's be real for a second and admit that none of us are professional athletes struggling to compete at the highest level of skill. The most athletic thing any of us are gonna do is maybe play a game of pickup basketball or join a men's softball league. None of us NEED steroids, like a pro athlete or an action movie star might NEED to take steroids to protect their job security. The only reason any of us would take steroids is because he's a weak-willed bitch with too many insecurities.

>>41610278
This is the truth, Im 24 and decided to start lifting after the third coworker got diabetes and some thyroid issues from being obese. Not gonna live my life as a fat fuck taking a cocktail of pills every morning when Im 35

>>41610352
>taking sups
>cutting / bulking more than 400 cals above or below your maintenance
>not having adequate rest
These are all YOUR problems, not problems with natty bodybuilding

>>41610121
>implying any predator bigger than a cat will give a shit about your bench before cutting you to pieces