/fraud/

Just about to start week 3 of a 600mg/week Test E cycle.

Can't believe I didn't jump on sooner. Still pretty much in "placebo" territory this early in a cycle, and everything is better.

Lifts, size, weight, appetite, mood, confidence.

Good times.

https://www.instagram.com/palfi.fitness/


Someone at my gym called this teen a natty. lol

>>41604601
looks natty to me

>>41604613
He's definitely not natty.

>>41604613
hes 14

>>41604650
5'7

he's gunna regret roiding so early later

Did DNP fall out of fashion or something
Besides the main guys nobody seems to carry it anymore

>>41604674
yup, im all for roiding early but this is kinda too early.

>>41604678
I'm pretty sure Dino closed his store and many other stores are too shady to bother with

>>41604692
Is he btc only now

Have you made your dues that you will be on test for the rest of your life?

How many of you run PCT or even HCG during cycle?

>>41604628
sorry everyone below 15% bf is on roids for you, fatty

>>41604650
that's why he's natty

>>41604770
I run HCG no reason not to really

>>41604786
I don't know how to get it, I'm on test cyp "prescribed" doc mentioned I can run pct if i want after my first cycle although I forgot to ask about HCG and I can run it now with my test cycle

>>41604786
sounds like a huge hassle to inject to me

>>41604601
>>41604650
>>41604674
idk, Lee Priest started at age 12.

Kid probably gonna stop growing now lol. And he got one ugly face too.

Whatever, I dont give a fuck.

>>41604859
Subq with a tiny insulin syringe how hard

>>41604878
Lee priest is a midget

>>41604853
Tell your doctor you're worried about fertility.

>>41605161
She told me we can look at those options after cycle....

>>41604853
>>41605187
why the fuck is your doctor making you cycle

>She
oh

>>41605222
I have low test and been on a cycle to get my levels normal

>>41605187
Are you cycling or on trt? Change to a not retarded doc

>>41605233
yeah that's not how that works at all

>>41605233
Thats retarded

>>41604853

TRT is for life, bro. You don't "cycle" that shit...

>pct
>TRT

female doctors everyone

>>41604683
What do you consider to not be too early?

>>41605267
21+

>>41604546
is that guy who's friend was helping him shove ten pills per week up his ass here , i want to hear his cycle report so far, still chuckling

Man, either "Tren sides" are SUPER exaggerated, or I'm just able to handle Tren really well... Pinning 80mg of Ace ED along with some Test P and I'm not experiencing any negative "sides." I just gain weight and I'm able to lift more every time I walk in the gym. Shit's beautiful, man.

It's time for my first glute pin ever. How bad is the pip exactly? Am I gonna be unable to sit on my ass or some shit?

>>41605258
at least shes actually working and not taking up a chair at med school to become a part time mommy doctor that works 1 day a week like half the women that went to med school with me.

>>41605397

Glutes are easy mode, man (as long as you can reach them easily). Don't sweat it. Have you tried VGs? Like buttah.

>>41605397
remember to rub a bit of pooh on the end of the needle, abscesses make sitting even more comfortable

>>41605420
I've been pinning VGs exclusively but scar tissue is making me switch. I know the process is easy, I'm just wondering about how bad the pip is gonna fuck me over

>>41605429
have you tried not being 12

>>41605448

Never pin one site *exclusively*. Always rotate. What gauge are you using anyway?

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>>41605456
have you tried not being so uptight?

>>41604546
this is a completely hypothetical question and in no way would i ever do this, im just curious.

Say some skinny dyel whos never stepped in a gym before decided to hop on the equivalent cycle to an IFBB Olympia athlete and train properly and eat properly, how much could they hope to gain in a 3 month period? Assuming the steroids didn't fuck them up

>>41604574
I've been thinking about doing a Test E cycle and was wondering about the positive effects on mood and confidence. Is the confidence boost really noticeable? Obviously you wont turn into chad overnight, but confidence is one thing that holds me back in life/with women.

>>41605795
this, except sustanon

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>>41605795
doesnt do anything if you weren't low test
even then its just mood

confidence comes from within, so if youre bigger you could have more confidence but you dont need drugs for that

>>41605795
>Is the confidence boost really noticeable?
yes very, for me its probably comparable to when im slighty buzzed

i've always been confident though so

>>41605795
my appetite is absolutely voracious on test e only cycle

I'm thinking about doing a cycle of test e, one thing I'm worried about is the acne side effects (i did get quite bad acne in high school)

Could I run MK677 with the test? As I've heard MK677 helps clear up the skin.

>>41605899
i'm only on week 6, i had moderate acne even early 20's, and haven't got any just with cleansers / exfoliates

>>41605762
firstly, the discomfort would be incredible, jumping from 2500 calories straight in to 4000~ calories is going to be hell on earth, then attending the gym for 4-5 hours a day on top of that is definitely going to make a normie vomit.
putting a gram of test, 600 mg of tren and 800 EQ and Dbol, into a virgin system is going to fuck you up, not to mention the growth hormone and insulin. (https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/steroids-what-pro-bodybuilders-are-really-using).
the cycle is going to fucking bankrupt a wage slave and basically going to force one into hard core prostitution or cocaine dealing to pay for it all.

your muscles are going to be in agony, the insomnia you are going to inevitably get is going to slow your growth, a new guys muscles arnt even large enough to require that many hormones, so your liver and kidneys are going to be working overtime to metabolize it all.

if you are set on doing this, you are going to get fucked up, your skin is going to be revolting , the frontal lobes in your brain may suffer permanent brain damage if your endocrine system hasnt finished developing, permanently altering your personality.

as for gains, the gains are going to be insane, you would expand like a balloon animal if your training was on point.

do it for science

Does Ligandrol really stymie cutting? I bought it counter muscle wasting during extensive weight loss (100 lbs to go), and read that it might actually be counter-productive to that end. Any thoughts?

Always fun having to get up at 4:30am to start a shitty job at 6am

>apologizing over text to girl I randomly dumped at 12am on a workday because I feel bad about it and I actually really liked her
Jesus Christ I think I need to up the AI by a shitload

>>41606125
Or burn her house down

>>41605350
I pinned 100mg ace with weekly trt test for the last 60 days, 20 days left of my cycle. My first cycle ever. Tren sides are only bad at the end of your cycle, as i have noticed, and by sides i mean the insomnia coupled with slight irritability and emotional sides. Otherwise everything else is highly exaggerated. Pin ED for more stable levels. Used Aromasin 12.5mg eod. Haven't even opened the caber.

>>41606158
Why asin with tren

>>41606158
tren doesnt aromatize buddy boy

So, being at 26 and with decent history of of lifting and a completely clean diet for over 7 months..

Should I use maybe 1 mg of testosterone to see how it affects my gains?

>>41606198
Just roid man why are there so many high inhibition faggots its safer than being an alcoholic

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Will NPP + Dbol with TRT test blow me the FUCK up?

>>41606158
never touched a needle in your life

>>41606198
you'll need at least 2mg

>>41606178
Tren doesn't aromatise but if you let your test aromatise too much that's going to make the prolactin rek you.

>>41606412
also not going to need 12.5mg eod asin for a trt dose of test

now ghost your exgf before you turn into bimbo

>>41606429
12.5md eod is probably overkill.

no u. is bimbo kill or what?

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>>41606455
>no u. is bimbo kill or what?
he left because of meanposters

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>>41606476
Poor bimbsie.

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Incoming autism

I've always been built like the "high dexterity" character in an MMO but I always wanted to be giant like the "high strength" character. I was born with small wrists, small forearms, small calves, small neck. I can train these muscles but it seems like I can only put on a couple inches at best. I feel like it is impossible for me to become gigantic like the Warrior class.

Is it really impossible for me or can I one day be the guy with 14 inch forearms? I train forearms as hard as any other muscle group and although my chest, core, quads, biceps, triceps, and shoulders have all gotten much bigger, my forearms haven't grown that much. Is it just genetics that determine if you're a Barbarian or a Rogue?

>>41606455
bimbo still posts anonymously, like he always does when he pretends to leave.

>>41606594
>Incoming autism
well that was an understatement

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>>41606594
when you hit level 20 you can respec and put all your points into forearms

>>41606718
what muscle do lolis like

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>>41606594

>>41606725
Dick

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>>41606725
benis

>>41606824
me on the left

Is Overtaining a thing when you're on steroids or do the steroids cancel that out?

How much NPP should I take for my first cycle? New job starts in August and I have to deal with nigger criminals so I need to be HYUGE

Anyone here tried Mk677? Thoughts?

Does anyone else get noticeably more red on cycle? My upper chest constantly looks sunburnt.
>inb4 up asin
>inb4 up cardio

I've tried both already.


also anyone else get noticeably more paranoid on cycle? I'm already a pretty bad over thinker as it is.

is there ANY benefit for someone using gear to use creatine too? Question isn't a joke, even though it looks like one. Does it help recovery in the slightest? Help joints at all? Anything? I have like 2 bags of the shit and I'm thinking of using it or giving it all to a friend(who prolly wont ever use it anyway).

Guys stop asking questions this thread is for blogging only

>>41606891
not really
>>41606900
2 months isn't enough
>>41606922
go away cap
>>41606959
drink more water
>>41607041
Probably.

>>41606959
>>41607121
thanks m8 I'll up it.

>>41607121
What if I add 50mg dbol for a month along with 700mg NPP

I could gains 20 lbs in 2.5 months easy right

>>41607082
True fact

>tfw banged friends sister again
This behaviour must stop. I will be a good human from now on

>>41607203
Probably no guarantee that it will be LBM tho.

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> lift
> muscles constantly sore and unusable
> stuck eating exact same autistic meals everyday
> always nursing some painful injury
> can't fit into regular effay clothes
> look in mirror and am never big enough
> hair thinning, balls shrunk from roids
> stretch marks from bulking too hard
> skin folds from cutting too fast
> have to spend at least two hours everyday driving to gym, working out, showering just to maintain look
> people call me names, like "big guy"
B-but I'm healthy and attractive, right /fraud/?

>>41607391
who cares pussy

>bike riding with gf
>complains her legs are sore
>tell her if she keeps it up she's gonna have some nice legs
>tell her she should start doing some squats if she wants a nicer butt
>she says something about "I'm not trying to impress people I've got nothing to prove no thanks"
>say "okay buzzfeed"
>says she's happy with herself
>I tell her that her body positivity is toxic ask her about people who are 600 lbs should they just accept themselves? people should always try to be better
>"it's just my perspective anon I don't get why you're getting upset with me"
>tell her "perspective doesn't matter there's right and wrong and I don't like you're attitude"

That was like 9 hours ago and it sitting in the parking lot if Carl's Jr. eating a big carl waiting for her leftist ass to go to sleep. She's a little 95 lb girl too, embracing this body positivity stuff is empowering fat whores who are nothing like her.

Women are dumb.

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>I was going to let him fuck me because he was so big and strong,
>but then he took off his pants..
>TEENY LITTLE BALLS, LOL!
>I laughed so hard that I almost peed myself!
>I put my clothes back on and left, still laughing

>>41607660
/pol/ pls

>>41607660
How do people this autistic get gf but not me it's not fair REEE

tfw skinnyfat

Whenever my gf and I get in a fight I take a swig of jack Daniels + cologne so she thinks I was out partying when really I slept in my car on 4chan all night

Works like a charm

I have around 6 vials of Med Tech Test E.

I haven't been training properly and I'm now fat as fuck.

When should I start my first jab?

>>41605293
Shit i' m nineteen. Not original replied either. But I'm on 5x5 what should my goals be so my body is optimum for test or others?

>>41607942
ill do that too but i crash at a friends playing wc3 or aoe2 the whole night
oldschool lan style

>>41606853
Oldmin confirmed

I'm on to you

Was chem the biggest retard of /fraud/?

>Looked good natty
>Decides randomly to kill himself with m-tren and pajeet drugs from fagweb

lmao

>>41608383
I had a nightmare that I took mtren and my liver was kill

>>41604708
He's done completely

>>41605795
Guy you originally asked here.

It won't cure autism but then I was always quite confident and can speak to women anyway.

Like someone else said, it's a bit like being at that level when you've had slightly less than two drinks. Buzzy, confident, at peace with the world.

>>41607692
Firstly, what woman cares about ball size?

Secondly, take HCG and you're golden.

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Im considering hopping on gear but every day im having second thoughts. I know what to get, where to get it and what to do with it but im thinking about side effects. ONLY thing im worried about is acne. I will get my bloodwork done this week anyway to find out what are my test levels. I am tired of being small and weak and i would like to try this magic thing but im still not sure.

>>41608788
fucking eat more then. holy shit , its that simple, if you want to grow bigger and get stronger, eat more, eat until you feel sick, change your fat levels with exercise

>>41608788
haven't done anything more than test, but didn't give me any acne

How detrimental is it to not take HCG while on 12-14 cycle?

I have nova and clomid pct on hand but no HCG

>>41608806
>fucking eat more then. holy shit , its that simple
no shit sherlock. But i want to be big and strong, not big, strong and DELUSIONAL. Im not going to turn into a fat fuck only to bench 3pl8 which would be equivalent of my body weight. I bulked up slowly last year and end up strong but fat. Im not doing this shit ever again.

>>41606959
it's actually from increased rbc and water has nothing to do with it

>>41608269
when you stop being a fat fuck. cut to minimum 13% before hopping on unless you just want to get fatter. and develop tits.

can roids lower your life expectancy?

Off to the gym with just an hours sleep, go team

>>41609147
Most things can if you act like a retard.

>>41608383
chem is very much alive and looks great right now

but yes pretty much every thing he ever did was retarded
>>41608952
it's not, at all

>>41609147
can fat lower your life expectancy?

>>41609147
Abuse will do that guaranteed. Safe use will improve it.

>>41604574
Have been blasting and cruising - blasting mostly for part 3 years.

First time on 500mg test E was amazing - mood was fantastic.

Right now I'm sitting on 600mg test and 200 mastE and libido is great but mood not so much.

>>41604601
>11
>>41604613
>>41604628
>>41604650
>>41604674
>5'7
>he's gunna regret roiding so early later

Anon I started at 23 wish I started earlier. Especially growth hormone or mk 677.

Im 23 dutchfag, lifting for 6 years. Just had my gyno surgery and am at <15% bf.

I want to order roids online as my country only has shitty UGLS. However I dont want to get SWAT'd by customs. Does shit often gets seized ? What happens if it does?

>>41604840
Thank you so much for this brother.

The most underrated post in the history of /fit/ and bbing.

>>41609399
Fellow dutch fag here, been ordering for 2 years from the same source.
Was at a point of ordering 2 times a month.
Its safer then going out to meet someone. Postal won't give a damn.

>>41609399
>>41609455

Btw plenty of Dutch roid sites that are legit with great gear. Do some research.

>>41609455
>>41609465
So you just ordered from the US/other country and they dont give a shit?

>Do some research.
How can you "do some research" other than ordering the brands and testing them in the lab? I just want to get some Pharmacom. Pls no bully.

>>41609474
no, he means he was ordering domestic.

yes you will most likely get fucked by customs if you order pharma stuff because they don't stealth.

>>41609518
>r pharma stuff
Pharmacom is just a brand name for a UGL

>>41609544
it's not, at all

>>41609564
It is. Its an expensive UGL, but UGL nevertheless.

>>41609474
>>41609518

Sorry, but yes I order domestic.
I can name 3 UGL brands that are good to go. No need to risk anything when we dutchies have it good enough gearwise.

I had a much harder time just getting simple Test e in the US.

You won't get true pharma anyways.

>>41605267
17/18.

depending on if you're atleast 5'11 and somewhat done growing as per bones.

also if i'm not mistaken growth plates only close because of excess estrogen so if you're really really on track with your e2 you might get lucky.

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So I've written a working prototype of a web app that finds the latest /fraud/ thread and displays it in realtime, with a better UI.

I need to add posting functionality, and I'm also planning on adding a 'trip-finder' that shows all posts by the main trips.

Just finished my first ever injection of 30mg test prop in to my glute

I don't feel a damn thing, absolutely 0 pain; is that normal?

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>>41607660
>okay buzzfeed
>there's right and wrong and i dont like your attitude

slippery slope mate

>>41609748

If any of you are web devs, please feel free to help me out with this:

https://hastebin.com/inacuyekeb.js

>>41609748
sell it for 0.99 a pop and fund your tren with it.

>>41609785

Nah, just something I did last night while bored, it'll be free once it's finished and I can host it somewhere.

Will be nice to be able to go to somethinglike http://currentfraudthread.com and immediately get the thread, with a better UI, and some enhanced features I plan on rolling out later.

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Thoughts on a 190mg TRT dose?

Should I get the doc to raise it to 250mg?

How do I get him to prescribe me HGH if I'm 20 years old?
(anti aging clinic btw)

>>41609806
>anti aging clinic

just ask nigga, those people give it out like candy.

what levels are you on at 190mg? some people are like 2000ng/dl at 150mg already and some barely scrape the natty 1200ng/dl.

>>41609806
190mg is too high imo

Start off 50mg test e/c twice a week, get bloods retested and go from there. Higher doses can seem appealing but it also means worse sides.

You shouldn't need HGH at your age. Running hCG however, is a must imo

>>41609594
but also a reliable one

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>>41609820
Don't know my levels yet. Going in on the fifth to get them checked. Been on TRT since late March.
I don't think they'd necessarily give it out like candy though, this doctor seems a lot more caring than other anti-aging doctors. He's on TRT himself.
>>41609858
>50mg
Nah, fuck that. 190 has been working just dandy, but I'd like 200-250 if I didn't get any other sides. Nothing noticeable yet.

I'm running HCG already, I mostly just want the HGH for gains

>>41609990
100-150mg a week will put you in a physiological range for most people.

Greater than 200mg a week will be considered a mild steroid cycle. If you are adamant on increasing dosage try 200mg one week then 150mg the following. You WILL need an AI at this dose.

Rate my cycle pls

W 1-10 Test Enth 250mg E3D
W 1-12 Adex 0.25mg EOD
W 1-6 Tren Enth 150mg E3D
W 3-10 HCG 250iu 3x/w

Will I need nova too ?

Just bled a lot after my test injection. Is much gear wasted when you bleed? If so, should I re-pin?

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>>41610142
>12 week cycle with long esther test and tren

>>41610155
nah, dont repin, just means you nicked a vein. doesnt mean it all went to waste.

>>41610171
>>12 week cycle with long esther test and tren
Ok, so whats wrong with that?

>>41609990
you take hcg regularly but get no sides? whut m8?

hcg forces your body to produce a shit ton of estrogen, and no blockers will help/stop that

also, doctors usually prescribe absolutely HUGHE hcg dosages

>>41606175
>>41606178
Because of exogenous test. Idk, better safe than sorry i guess.

>>41610180
Triangle has only been on trt, take what he says with a grain of salt.
As someone who is running tren e right now, I would recommend at least front loading it.

>>41610180
the problem with short, long esther cycles is that long esther cycles need a few weeks to be stable.

by making your cycle only 12 weeks you're effectively limiting your "cycle" to like 8 weeks because the first 4 weeks is still just the gear building slowly up.

>>41610279
its not necessarily wrong what he's doing, hes just pissing away a lot of gear for little time/effect.

>>41610142
>6 weeks of tren e
lmao

>>41610171
Thanks brahs, so the amount we lose when we bleed is negligible?

>>41610319
The "4 weeks to kick in" meme really needs to stop, especially if front loading is involved. Sure it may take up to 4 weeks for it to fully saturate but that doesn't mean that it is not working through out those 4 weeks. He will probably see more gains in those 4 weeks than someone who is mid test cycle would see during the same amount of time. Ideally using ace for the first few weeks and then switching to enthante would be better but there is nothing wrong with using just enthante.

>>41610385
>lmao
More constructive criticism I see.

I didnt make up this cycle, its a t-nation newbie cycle.

>>41610385
>>41610400
Oh shit I didn't see that it was 10 weeks of test and 6 weeks of tren. I thought it was a straight 12 week of test and tren.
Fucking kek, this is just stupid.

>>41610427
I know this is 4chan and all but what exactly is stupid, is it too long?

Its from forums.t-nation.com/t/steroid-newbie-cycle-planning/97187

Run tren for 12 weeks regardless of if it's ace or enanthate,or don't bother..
I don't bother, as it turns me into a moody cunt.

I want to do a test e only "mini" cycle
ie using only 250 mg a week for 12 weeks
I have lifted for a little bit over a year and I want to make some sick gainz without getting stretch marks or too many side effects. Is this feasible? Also would I need an AI/PCT/HGC?

>>41610458
I personally wouldn't run tren a for much longer than 8 weeks but ymmv

>>41610471
Why not run the test higher, like 500mg per week? Always have an ai on hand, and yeah, you should pct. HCG is up to you though, but I'd personally run it 2 weeks after your last pin

>>41610402
how about you read the op?

or just run your dumbass tnation cycle whatever

>>41610471
it's fucking stupid and so are you

read the op

>>41610185
I don't think I get sides. I do take .50 ml in a 31 needle of HCG 24 hours before a test injection, then I take 1 mg arimidex 24 hours after an inject.
Is arimidex enough to counteract HCG est?

Anyone here use sarms with their rons? I added lgd4033 to my test and deca blast and I've been enjoying it.

>>41610598
You realize your leddit cycle is basically exactly the same as mine except they run tren longer? I guess you didnt even read it urself, fucking redditfags.

>>41610788
... you are so fucking stupid

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Happy Memorial Day my guys.

Where do you guys get needles? If I get them from Walmart, will they ask for a prescription or something? I live in a pretty trashy town so I'm sure they get a lot of drug users buying needles, so probably not. Just wanted to hear what you guys experiences with buying needles is.

i fucking hate blasting short ester compounds

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>>41610663
>measuring hcg in ml
>1mg adex for hcg

Wow

>>41610978
Gpz

>>41610788
So let's sum things up:
>you don't know the difference between enanthate and acetate esters
>you think a difference of length doesn't matter
>you want to run tren on your first cycle

notice in the op where it says "read ALL of http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions?" yeah, it means all of it. and it means YOUR absolutely retarded questions.

now read it or fuck off and go do your dipshit tnation cycle

>>41610978

gpzmedlab

>>41611020 #
Wrong on your first two points. There are no hard rules for roiding you dumb fuck. Just ways to mess things up. Guess what? Running tren for a few weeks longer or shorter is not one of them. Nor is running a different esther in different intervals.

>>you want to run tren on your first cycle
So does your leddit bible though. Again, you didnt even read it yourself.

Its obnoxious pricks with low iq such as yourself which give roiders a bad name. It appears your only daily dose of fun is being a pretentious cunt on 4chan.

Just hang yourself

>>41610155
Did you aspirate? If no blood was present during this then you are good to go, just hit a vein going in/out.

>>41611256
>So does your leddit bible though. Again, you didnt even read it yourself.
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/examples
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/your_first_cycle

literally end your life. you're an idiot who doesn't know anything about gear and picked up the first example cycle on the dumbest fucking website on the planet. stop posting in my thread.

>>41611301
Im not doing a bulk cycle in case you havent noticed, shithead.

>you dont know anything about gear
Says the guy who cant even explain simple things about gear, just spamming links to the same site. The fact that you think there is only 1 cycle for beginners alone completely discredit you and everything you say. And its also not like you had something better to do than just converse properly instead of making obnoxious remarks.

You are just embarassing yourself now. Stop while you are behind, loser.

>>41604840
Pretty interesting

>>41611256
I actually ramped up the Tren E to 600mg a week for 20 weeks straight. Together with 250mg Test E.

Guess what, I recovered just fine. Your body WILL let you know when you are making bad choices, trust me.

>>41611475
>Im not doing a bulk cycle in case you havent noticed, shithead
hahahaha

>>41611475
you're dumb

>>41610279
>triangle is a fucking chud DYEL who shouldn't be listened to at all

FTFY

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>>41611475
stop shitting up thread and kys faggot

>>41611545
I agree with you? Its just that faggot op gets a seizure the moment someone deviates from his percieved mandatory cycle, like the low iq autist he is. Here he is again >>41611705

>>41610142
>>41610402
>>41610445
>>41610788
>>41611256
>>41611475
>>41611847
>come in a thread asking for help for a cycle copy-pasted from some website
>everyone tells you it's fucking stupid
>instead of reading up on why it's stupid, lash out and pretend you know everything

>>41611847
Honestly I see no problem with his cycle, I've seen people do similar cycle's, wether they were beginner's or not.
Is it worth it? That depends. I would go for a way longer cycle myself but if it gets him what he wants out of it, more power to him.
That being said, its not going to give godly gains, but the Tren will put on some muscle even at a deficit.

>>41612009
>cycle's
>beginner's
read a book

>>41612066
Applying rules from my language to the English language.
Sorry guys, but you get the point I'm making.

>>41612009
there are tons of issues with it, though.

stacking compounds you don't know how you'll react to on a first cycle is incredibly stupid, especially if you're going down the tren road. mismanaged e2 + prolactin is a recipe for complete disaster.

the length is very stupid. not harmful like the stacking of compound, but mostly a waste of money and time to go for that short of a cycle with enanthate esters. prop+ace would still be a short cycle but it'd be a lot better.

then there's the fact that the idiot wants to do a cutting cycle that I'm not going to get into. oh and him asking if he's going to need "nova." he's the perfect example of someone who has no clue what he's doing googling "steroids cycle" and just hopping on without any kind of research and people like you enable him.

>>41610397
i wouldnt know if you'd even lose any oil at all when you bleed considering its deep in your muscle and the blood should either be at subq level or a bit before that.

anyway even if you did it wouldn't be worth a repin.

I know I've asked this before but does anyone have brick's strength program? If not would doing Texas method on a six day program be too strenuous? Volume bench and dead Monday, intensity day on Thursday. Volume OHP Tuesday, intensity Friday. Volume squat Wednesday's intensity day on Saturday. I'd be blasting during all this with test, Tren, Mast plus mk677 and maybe ghrp

>>41612207
I'm not trying to enable him.

Not to be a complete dick, but this is the first time I read a reponse actually explaining whats wrong with his cycle.
I don't think its weird he reacts the way he does. Tell him he's a dumbass for picking this cycle and tell him why, give him some alternative.

Nobody has a clue starting out, none of us did, we all did stupid things regarding cycles, hell I still do, I blast way to hard.
Point is if you want people not to be retards googling babbys first cycle, at least help them or just ignore it.

>>41612332
I've been doing the sameness thing anyways but just not programming it. Whatever weight I feel comfortable with that day and deload every ~6 weeks. I haven't really loath strength but I'm not gaining either.
Bench around 315
Squat around 385
Deadlift 500
OHP 175
Bodyweight 175ish

>>41612349
theres a reason we don't blow sugar into newcomers asses.

besides this is /relationshipadvice/ now.

we either talk about bimbo's, crusader's or my ex.

>>41612371
Lost strength*
Fucking phone posting

Jerry, if you're here, do you have a throwaway or just a email? I have some questions about peps. daveywhit797 gmail

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>>41612522
jerry is always with us in our hearts

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>>41612522
FDA plz

You're lucky this guy >>41612584
Finished the summoning ritual

Microdose grp2 and ghrp 2 to 3 times a day. If youre trying to heal an injury, add tb-500 2x a week, I feel thats more effective

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>on tren
>go to gym hungry
>still pb
epic

>>41609743
So I should feed my kid aromasine when he's 15 so he won't become a manlet like me?

>>41607660
lmao dude why are you taking negative body positivity out on your sub 100lb gf? you autist.

>>41612633
Kek FDA. I'll remember to post anime the next time I need you. Are peps supposed to be this pricy? Not going to name names but it seems like it costs just as much as rons

>>41612663
Depends on the pep.
The basic bitch peps like ghrp etc should be costing you like a buck a day
Tb-500 and the more specialized ones can be pricey.
Sometimes I wonder if generics are worth it instead

>>41612689
I couldn't find tb500 but I see people talk about BPC-157 similarly. I don't even have huge joint problems, my knee clicks a bit sometimes and my shoulder can get inflamed. Was just looking for something for injury prevention. I'm the guy posting about strength program, I think I lift heavy too often, not enough rehab work, etc. But I'm fixing all that slowly

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>>41604546
Newcomer here, have read wiki prior to post.

I've started taking 10mg Dbol orally with whey daily. Will this be enough to see a substantial difference in mass cultivation? Or should I up my dose to 20mg a day?

>>41612723
You clearly haven't read enough if you're doing oral only

>>41612712
>BPC-157
I dunno anything about that one, but it does look a bit pricey. Probably overkill for prevention.

What roids are you on? Add low/medium dose var or eq and ghrp/grp2 for a comfy time. Except for the var, its pretty cheap

>>41612723
Is that old bodybuilding.com whey?
Lol

>>41612761
Yeah I was thinking about EQ. I'm only on 125mg test E3D at the moment. I'll be running test Tren mast at similar low dosages soon plus mk677. My source didn't have eq but I could wait. I'm the guy who was asking about Tren and deca being in the same stack at a low dose the other day. I'll probably just look at the ghrp and grf along with mk677 for injury prevention. What dose would you recommend per week for EQ? Just for injury prevention.

>>41612800
Like 400 is a fine qol eq dose, you need like a gram plus for gains.
Id watch out for tren and eq at the same time though, can really rocket your bp.
Id bleed yourself before combining them so rbc isnt already raised (just test alone even dowles this) and definitely take baby asprin to thin blood. Youll still need to monitor it though. Consider var with tren

>>41612870
I'm allergic to aspirin but I do donate blood every other month plus cardio daily for BP issues. Seems to work very well even when I was doing retarded amounts of roids

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>>41612909
>allergic to aspirin
Wut

Thats good though you're on top of heart health
No one here does cardio or anything its crazy
Yeah try like 400 eq then

If youre lucky your source will have bold cyp and you can resell it as dhb to retards and make a mint

>>41612734
Is it possible to make gains solely through oral? Or is injection sort of unavoidable?

>>41613096
Possible? Yes.
Likely? No.

Just inject. Oral only is the worst way to go by far.

>>41613096
sure you can

you won't keep them though

>download grindr out of curiosity to see if there are any cute traps/trannies
>haven't even set a picture
>bombarded with conversation starters from gay dudes
wtf

why are homos so thirsty?

>>41613274
There's a reason they have insane rates of HIV.

Some guy just posted a review using my sources gear and batch number

500mg test had him at 5,000 ng/dl blood levels, which is insanely high/ overdosed, and so was his estrogen. He was taking Aromasin from the same source as well.


this is gonna be one puffy summer for me if my asin is bunk.

The good news is that the same source is planning on stocking trest, accutane, and test U soon (:

>>41613274
>downloads gay dating app to fuck trannies
>calls other people homos

Starting a PPL for the first time. How the fuck am I supposed to do 3x5 bench followed by 3x5 ohp followed by 3x5 incline all on the same day without whichever exercise I'm doing last suffering and having to lift at like half the intensity?

I sure as shit am not breaking any PRs anymore

>>41612991
Yup it's pretty rare but I swell up like a pufferfish if I take it. I'll have to see about the eq. Hoping it'll help my roid skin too lmao

>>41613484
Can alternate between which ones you start first I guess. Monday do flat bench first and next push day do OHP first. Treat third lift as accessory.

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I'm currently 13ish% bodyfat, and got 3 weeks until I want to hit my goal of 10% for paradiso

If I'm running test e, var, and superdrol, can I do a massive caloric deficit eating 1350 cals per day (190g protein, 61g fat, 15g carbs) for 3 weeks, lifting 6 days a week, and drop fat fast while perserving LBM?

Or would that be stupid, and/or the rebound effect once I go back to bulking on with the superdrol and test e (I'll be out of var by then) be mostly fat gain?

It's all for a festival I'm going to which is all weekend long (June 23rd and 24th)

Th-thanks guys...

>>41613525
i would assume the rebound won't be too bad but if you're really that worried I would taper up the carbs and calories, still do cardio and eat low gi carbs until you reach your goal kcals.

also, paradiso lineup is p stacked who are you going to see?

>>41613628
>also, paradiso lineup is p stacked who are you going to see?
festival sluts

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>>41613628
So maybe about 30g of carbs, tapered up to 1500cals-ish?
It's also kind of a fucky situation because I'll be in the field for 2 weeks straight, so I can only do weighted chins, dips, pistol squats, all that shit as often as I can.

Not sure about cardio as well, since I already created such a large deficit I shouldn't really need it

Also Griz is gonna be FIRE. My top three so far are Griz, Kayzo, and maybe Porter Robinson/Tiesto

What about you dude?

could hgh stunt growth?

>>41613761
read the OP

>1.5 months since taking tren e
>can still have a little bit of brown lactation on right nipple

how long will this prolactin bullshit last m8s?

im taking vitamin b6 for now but I might get caber.

Are the prolactin levels staying high because I haven't nuked it enough yet despite not taking any tren?

and obviously I can tell if I'm on fucking deca.

>>41613704
damn being out in the field really fucks your whole cycle up. i understand you being cautious now.

>So maybe about 30g of carbs, tapered up to 1500cals-ish?
I would do the same increase carbs by 25-30g every 3-4 days or sooner if you're getting impatient.

kayzo is goat! going to see him for my first time at HARD this year and I'm stoked. Porter is always great I've never been disappointed seeing him. I'm going to HARD and Audiotistic this summer.

>>41613761
Lol
Oh my god..you're serious...
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLOLOL

Will I die on 250mg DNP caps in 94°F weather?

>>41613834
Shit, that's gonna be a little difficult. The easiest and least fuckiest way I can hit my macros is to eat only peanut butter and protein powder that I'm bringing lmao.
I guess once I get out I could start tapering carbs up 25g each day until day of festival starting on the week of

Have fun dude! Shit's gonna be fucking face melting for you. If you're gonna roll like I am, make sure to stay safe!

>>41604601
Where are his traps?

>>41608383

Possibly, but JM tried to dry his MP3 player out that was broken from his sweaty balls by putting it in the microwave.

So it's either me or JM.

>>41614016
that sounds like bullshit but i believe it

Does anyone know how much muscle a woman should put on while on a 8 week cycle of 5 mg var/day?

>>41614253
how long is a piece of string?

just try it and stop it you're getting "too big," you can stop whenever the fuck you want and you don't even need to pct

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Okay lads, 5 weeks into this cycle and I have nothing to show for it. Haven't lost a single pound.

Fuck.

Well, better get serious now.

>>41614280
It's not about getting too big, I just wanna know if it's worth it versus natty lifting

>>41614253
>>41614324
kill yourself whore

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Ive slept 26 hours over the laat two days.
I think my trensomnia broke

>>41613274
I did this too desu
Grindr is so fucking gay
No homo

>>41614381
Just let a beta femboy suck you off jerbear

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>>41613957

Has anyone went up a shirt size from roids? like going from a snug medium to a large?

>>41614362
I'm asking a question you asshole

Got a bit of shoulder pain that comes up in any push movement, so I'm gonna be doing Back/Biceps, then Legs/Biceps for a week or so. My back, legs, and biceps are lagging anyway, so this'll be a good excuse to bring them up.

Failed a 170kg 1rm squat a couple days ago because I got greedy after fairly easily hitting my previous 1rm of 160kg. I got halfway, but couldn't get the bar to keep going. Probably gonna have to do some of them rack squats, or whatever they're called.

>>41614418
But I want to be the betafemboy and have a thick feminine penis all up in me no homo

>tfw regretting throwing away my dresses and the booty shorts I stole from my roommates gf
God I need a gf im so gay

>>41614456
Are you stretching your shoulders?
If I dont take a couple mins ed mine get pretty cranky

>>41613883
Refeeding a day before might also help.
>Shit's gonna be fucking face melting
I know i can't wait!

to you as well man I can't imagine how hot it would be rolling during the day in texas in June. stay hydrated even more so being on.

>>41614381
>he fell for the sleep = gains meme


>>41614435
No, you are only getting smaller by the day. I don't even dare to wear a shirt anymore and not feeling skinny.

You will never get big, that's a fucking delusion. You don;t know anything

>>41614501
I mean I am up over 10lbs since thurs.
I love water weight

But i need to get back to my cut another week of maintenance is going to kill me

>>41614472
Jerry have you ever done tren?
I just started my tren cycle and i have the biggest urge to fap to lolis now which was never there before. I use to only like lolis because they were adorable and needed to be protected but now I just straight up want to fuck them through my computer screen.

>>41614516
What you on right now?

Come on stay on focus now Jerry, you either cut or bulk until you achieved your goal

>Tuesday, May 30, 2017
>Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG
> Estimated Delivery: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 By End of Day

well I don't know how you're going to manage that DHL but impress me

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>>41614527
Yes Im on it now
Lolis are made for sex
You finally understand

>>41614544
Im on 200test/tren
Lost 50 lbs in 6 weeks pmsf, but hurt my ankle running so I decided to maintain for a week or so to heal up
Then pmsf til #7% #shredded #notipcrew

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1: at what point in your lifting career should you start? 27 y/o here
2: is this a rich mans game like cocaine etc.?
3: any NZfags in here and where to get gear? Suggestions on where to start researching?
4: is this gonna cuck my balls up/cause infertility?
5: can you just do entry level shit without going to competition levels? Like just to get an edge, feel better etc. since I'm already a low test beta fag as it is and doctors here won't do shit/don't give a shit

>>41614660
read the op

>>41614579
stop jerking off for a few days, sleep naked with pp on loli

guaranteed wet dream. it's magical

>>41614665
o-ok

>>41614660
If youre really low test you dont need much at all
Like $20 for 30 weeks

>>41614668
Wet dreams are a myth

And if I could sleep naked with a loli why would I sleep??

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>>41614579
Hey jerry pls answer my question real quick

If I wanted to get shredded during my cut on cycle and wanted to boost it for the final 3 weeks, could I eat nothing but protein powder and peanut butter everyday getting 1330 cals per day for 3 weeks straight so I could be #shredded?

Pic related would be my macros

>>41614840
Cut out the pb
Thats too much fat

But yes

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>>41614544
Ayy mast good to see you. Should i bulk, cut or maintain? I've got some Tren and mast coming in the mail along with mtren I'm going to try out. Been cruising 125mg test e3d forever now

>>41614712
>Wet dreams are a myth
you've never had one?

>>41614910
I haven't. I pissed myself wheb i was a kid but never came on myself

>>41614855
Hm...alrighty thanks dude.

I'll try hitting 830cals per day for 3 weeks straight getting about 204g protein.

Any tips on how to come off it from your personal experience?

>>41614867
bulk, ur chest is looking quite feeble

>>41614963
Yeah I know. Shit genetics I think. I blast that shit twice a week

>>41614867

Man, you have some great fucking proportions, you're going to look really good. You already do, but I mean beyond your typical roid physique.

>>41614910
Ive never had unicorn meat either
Cause wet dreams dont exist

Id jack off maybe monthly as low test too
Huh

>>41614949
No greasy food
Just add in carbs for the first week, let your stomach expand again

>>41614995
Thanks brah. I've been at it three years so far. I always thought you looked better though. Do you have a throwaway btw? I tried getting in contact with your old natty gmail but I guess but you don't check that anymore

>>41615003
Sick thanks man. Got two tubs of unflavored protein powder ready to go. Time to break this 13% bodyfat plateau

>>41615003
>Id jack off maybe monthly as low test too
u wot, I was like <200 and did it daily
>inb4 that was what caused it and also the joke here

>>41615003
>Cause wet dreams dont exist
neither does azusa

get rekt

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>>41615067
Might want to refeed like 1/2 way through

>>41615072
Huh
Life sure is a mystery

>>41615098
ILL FUCKING KILL YOU
Im sorry that got heated

Then explain how im holding her right now

>>41615042

I don't peep it regularly, let me go look and respond to you.

>>41615042

Responded

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>>41615128
Do I HAVE to refeed though? I don't wanna. I just want quick shreds :(

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>>41615205
You should

>>41615271
Fiiiiiiiine I will.
Already calculated my shit onto the PSMF calculator for my refeed 11-12 days from now anywho. Thanks again for helpin b

The gym at my apartment complex is next to the pool, and it's one way glass. I get to watch all the cute lolis have butt cheek slips while swimming.

>>41615330
reported to the fbi

>>41615375
Fuck off normie

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>>41615330
Pics

I have a bit of gyno and Im wrapping up week 2 of PCT w/Nolva.

I purchased some Ralox but it will take 1-2 weeks to get here.

Wrap up the Nolva PCT after 4 weeks, than add Ralox at its regular dose? Will it fuck with my test after coming off 4 week PCT?

I want to suck an 8 inch tranny cock so bad

>>41615563
eww why so big

rather have a lil feminine one

faggit

>>41615586
If it's small then they would be the submissive and I wouldn't suck it.

>>41615563
lenny pls go

>>41615593
tru

>>41615563
My jaw gets tired when theyre that big
No homo

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>>41615606
why dont you just get a prostate massager dude
all the orgasms without the risk of HIV

>>41614867
HNGGGGGG DADDY

post stats, stack and routine

>>41615679
>just get a prostate massager dude
>all the orgasms

This shit is near-impossible for me, I've given it the old college try, got super close once, but yet it eludes me.

=/

>>41615679
Cause thats gay
Yeah I should

Reminds me to get tested

>>41615814
You forgot to say no homo

>>41615819
Please stop you're making me uncomfortable.

>>41604840
Great post anon

>>41615819

I had a grill do it for me so it's automatically no-homo

>>41615745
Turbo manlet status
175lbs 5'8
Just been cruising on 125mg test e e3d. Prolly for about a year. Three years total lifting.
Basically a heavy schwarzennegger 6 day split. Google Arnold split and that's what I'm doing except maybe a strength variation
I started doing SS for a year lol. Strength is still number one goal but I like BB too

>>41615856
Do you ever cut on that or just lift and eat a good diet?

I'm 5'7" 155lbs and keep going back and forth on how I should handle diet, considering my gigga-manlet status

5lbs body fat for me is the difference between sick cunt and tubby hobbit

>>41615836
that's why it didn't work

>>41615856
Would you have changed away from SS in the beginning to a more volume focused program?

>>41615884

Is there some sort of secret formuoli I'm missing out on?

>>41615878
Yeah I'm cutting right now. I just don't lift as heavy or as often. Cardio ED and i work outdoors 50hrs a week. I'm cutting on like 3200 calories of mostly protein lmao. Carbs pre and post workout

>>41615831
How
Are you not comfortable with yourself

>>41615836
>its not gay if a girl does it
Youre so in the closet

>>41615856
>3 years

Why even try

>>41615878
Def not ideal though which is why I'm looking for a program or a coach

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>>41615906
you need to do actual gay stuff but say no homo while at it. it's complicated

>/fit/ trip for ages
>doesn't know the secret prostate voodoo
where should I begin

>>41615938
>Youre so in the closet

I'm heteroflexible.

If it looks like a girl, I'm game.

>>41615950
I feel it.

I typically lift 6 days a week but Ive recently been reading that is probably overdoing it during a cut.

If you're into hypertrophy try BalconBro's split, Chest/Bis, Shoulders/Back, Tris Legs

But for a long time I ran a semi-custom routine for strength where I varied the routine, typical Push Pull Legs(which I skipped a bunch for rest), 3x20 three days light weight, 4x12 after that med-heavy, 5x5 last three days heavy.

Allows you to alternate between cables, dumbbells, compound lifts every week or so.

I have been blasting 130mg Tren E eod as some sort of kickstart (don't ask me my logic because I don't have any) for about 2 weeks now. My plan was to drop down and keep the tren around 200-300mg ew but i am really enjoying it alot right now. Should I order more tren and keep up this eod shenanigans or should I drop it low before it becomes too late.
P.s this is my first time running tren.
P.s.s Im keeping my tren and test 1:1 as I got tnte
Edit: My goal is to recomp over the summer.

>>41615994
Ill bring a dress and a wig
We'll find that prostate yet no homo

>>41616022
I think you're going to get fucked running 1:1, especially for your first time on cycle

but you do whatever you want, I hear some girls like tits lactating brown shit on their men

>>41616062
Even if I only run it at 250mg?

>>41616110
depends, I can't tell you how bad your aromatization is. maybe 250mg takes you to ridiculously high e2 by itself, stack that with tren prolactin and you're in for a bad time.

or maybe you don't aromatize at all and you'll be completely fine. it's a gamble, which is why you're supposed to run test on its own first. but you do you, I'm not your mom.

>>41616124
I think you may have miss understood me. This is my first time running tren, I have already done a blast and cruise so I got a handle on my e2. Now managing my prolactin im new to but I have been taking 200mg p5p ed just as some sort of protection and I do have Prami on hand but I dont want to take it if i dont have to.

>>41616207
ah. you should be fine then. I would tell you to just order more tren and keep your tnte so you can do low test high tren instead of 1:1, but there's nothing wrong with 1:1 if you're keeping it that low and you 100% know you have your e2 under control at that dosage

>tfw the guy who cuts my hair is bigger than me
>He's so gentle despite his size

How do I into gentle giant mode? More tren?

>>41616366
>more tren
>gentle
no

I feel you though. Barber in my hometown is thiccer than I can ever aspire to be but could probably perform open heart surgery on a sparrow. I asked him once why, he just joked that it's cause he's gay, he needs to pay attention as not to hurt the twinks he usually dates kek

>>41615819
>Cause thats gay
>touching part of your own reproductive system is gay
no more than sucking thick tranny chodes mr

>>41616817
Having things inserted into yourself for sexual pleasure is gay.

>>41615814
buy an actual massager, smoke some weed to calm down and get into it. don't ejaculate for at least 3-5 days

or don't, because once you achieve a shaking full bodied orgasm there's no going back

>>41616832
>cries about exgf every night
>texts her every 30 minutes
y-you too

hey you all want a source? I'll tell you my source if you ask.

>>41616868
At least I'm not an evolutionary abomination.

>>41616817
>simulating a dick with a toy isnt gay

Reminds me of that year or so I could only get off massaging my prostate (by hand like god intended) in public restrooms

No homo
I really should just buy one

>>41616832
What if youre thinking about girls

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>>41616906
>massaging my prostate (by hand like god intended) in public restrooms

good ol jerry

>>41616906
Little girls right?

>>41616901
you're probably in the wrong place then

>>41616906
>(by hand like god intended) in public restrooms
how the fuck did you manage that

i've tried with a thumb while on my side with knees tucked. it's not comfortable enough for me to get there

do you kegel or just rub until something happens

For when we get pruned:

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>>41616940
What else

>>41616941
>thumb
Nigger stick your actual digits up there wtf

The real issue is as I go I tighten so it gets pretty dufficult no homo

lol my first cycle of test e finally kicked in (week 2.5) hahaha why the fuck did I waste so many years lifting natty?