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Why do whites dominate all strength based sports, are they naturally

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Why do whites dominate all strength based sports, are they naturally better?
Why haven't blacks or Asians had any success in strongman, lifting, or fighting sporting??
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>>41599169
>Why do whites dominate all strength based sports, are they naturally better?
yes but only with steroids.
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>blacks dominate welfare
>asians dominate tech fields
>whites sports
>mexicans cheap jobs
>indians 7-11
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Blacks are only good at two things:

Running and jumping. Beyond that, they have no redeemable racial characteristics.
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>>41599169
>tfw the skinnyfat manlet on the left would obliterate 100% of /fit/ in hand to hand combat
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Why on Earth would a black man want to enter a contest with white people? You honestly think he would be judged fairly?
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>>41599198

>arabs violent extremism
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>>41599169
Iceland masterrace
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>>41599246
>>41599198
and jews the world
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>>41599243
It's not like black people don't compete and win in other sports that were originally white only.
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>>41599227
Who cares? Fighting is his sport, of course he's good at it.

That's like saying some DYEL lanklet MLB pitcher could strike out anybody on fit. No shit but who cares
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>>41599243
>judged fairly?
>hey you lifted more weight but you're a nigger so I'm taking off 50 pounds, whitey wins!
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Blacks get into street fights all the time, yet they don't produce sporting Champions. Why is this?
Why haven't we seen good black UFC fighters? Why are the champs all white?

Blacks 'work' in manual labor more, and don't do as much academics in school. Yet they don't do as well in sports. Why is this?
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>>41599169

Mirin them argyle socks, belt buckle not so much.
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>>41599389
Anderson Silva. Mayweather. Tyson.
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>Who is Jon Jones
>Who is Mayweather
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>>41599169
Because blacks focus on sports that actually pay well.
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>>41599243
>what is affirmative action
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>>41599169
>yet another 2nd place finish for half "thor" "bjorn" sson

is he LITERALLY going for the title of world's strongest cuck? game of shits weenies BTFO.
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>mfw the greatest baseball player in history was black
>mfw the greatest NFL player in history was black
>mfw the greatest NBA player in history was black
>mfw the greatest boxer in history was black
>mfw the greatest soccer player in history was black
>mfw the greatest tennis player in history was black
>mfw the greatest golfer in history was black

How can white boys even compete?
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>>41599169
Because they are interested?

Why you germanics want to feel special so much?

Why you talk about genes?
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>>41599438
>mfw the greatest soccer player in history was black
i don't remember messi being black
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>>41599389
Again with this ignorance
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>>41599169
>Why haven't Asians had any success in lifting sports?
>Why haven't blacks had any success in fighting sports?

This must be bait
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>>41599438
All trained by white people huehuehue
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>>41599169
whitey dominate every sport that is a amateur-tier/meme, you should see how many of these strength athletes and even olympic athletes have two jobs.
As soon as it goes real pro for real cash then darkies become competitive at it.
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>>41599438
Rocky Marciano isn't black
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>>41599452
*do

*do

This must be so embarassing
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>>41599438
>mfw the greatest soccer player in history was black

Lol what?
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>>41599438
>1. subjective
>2. none would be alive if Whites never fed them

What more needs to be said? If Europeans/Whites bred for eugenics and not cuckery, we would be dominating in any event we choose.

Delude yourself more.
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>>41599494
>0 (zero) trophies for argentina
>lost two finals to fucking chile
>xaviesta baby
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>>41599438
Babe Ruth wasn't black.
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>>41599438
>mfw the greatest baseball player in history was Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle or some other dead white guy
>mfw the greatest NFL player in history is Tom Brady
>mfw the greatest NBA player in history actually was black but #2 was Larry Bird
>mfw the greatest boxer in history was Rocky Marciano
>mfw the greatest soccer player in history was Diego Maradonna
>mfw the greatest tennis player in history was Federer or John McEnroe
>mfw the greatest golfer in history was half ching chong
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>>41599425
Nah, WSM has been pretty blatantly favoring Hall for a couple years now so it wouldn't surprise me if they start doing it with Thor. Not to mention the fact that Thor almost won this year.

He'll win at least one.
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>>41599552
Most dominant NFL player in history at their position was Lawrence Taylor and if you think Bird is the second best NBA player of all time you know nothing about basketball.
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>>41599438
>literally most of that is wrong
Here's a well-deserved (you) for triggering the fuck out of me
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>Mike Schmidt is white
>Tom Brady is white
>MJ is black
>Rocky Marciano white
>Messi white
>The top like 10 tennis players of all time are white
>Jack Nicklaus is white
You went 1 for 6 pal
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>>41599389
>Why haven't we seen good black UFC fighters?
>what is overeem
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>>41599612
How is Mike Schmidt, a .267 life time hitter, the best baseball player ever?
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>>41599438
>>41599468
>>41599552
>>41599476


Greatest strongman of all time: Brian Shaw
Greatest UFC fighter of all time: Conor Mcgregor
Greatest boxer of all time: Rocky Maccanio
Greatest powerlfiter of all time: Lamar Gant
Greatest weightlifter of all time: Andrei Aramnau

All white
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>>41599612
>Mike Schmidt
>Tom Brady
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>>41599169
There have been a lot of successful black boxers.
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>>41599649
>Greatest UFC fighter of all time: Conor Mcgregor
>Greatest boxer of all time: Rocky Maccanio
You high or something.
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>>41599649
>Greatest strongman of all time: Brian Shaw
for some reason I though that you wrote Big Show, I was about to explode
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>>41599649
I admit I don't follow lifting, but every time I flip to the Olympics and they are doing a weightlifting event it's always manlet Koreans and Chinese.

>>41599568
>if you think Bird is the second best NBA player of all time you know nothing about basketball
You caught me, I don't like to watch apehoop because it is stupid and negro worship
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>>41599438
Roger Federer might have one South African grand parent, but it's the white kind of South African.
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>>41599552

Disagree with you on Bird. Maybe top 10, but not 2nd place.

Also, and I know this is unpopular, but Floyd Mayweather legitimately is the greatest technical boxer of all time. You might think he style is faggy/boring/defensive, but he had impregnable defense, lightning fast speed, and was never even close to being defeated. He is greater than Marciano, particularly in the fact that the level of competition and the athletic standards for modern boxing are so much higher.

So I do legitimately think he is right about the NBA and Boxing. The rest are somewhat close. We can at least say that the NFL is dominated by black superstars even if Tom Brady is probably the greatest single player of all time.
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>>41599649
>Andrei Aramnau
That's not how you write Pyrros Dimas
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wtf is with this Brady shit

Not arguing that it's a black dude, not arguing that it's anyone, but it's sure as hell not Brady
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>messi greatest player
>pele
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>>41599712
>Floyd Mayweather legitimately is the greatest technical boxer of all time
Tbh, boxing is gay because of weight classes. They just enable manlets to think they're good. We all know the Klitschko brothers would destroy Mayweather.

Why don't they do that for other sports? Being small is a disadvantage in almost all sports, not just combat sports. Pound for pound, Muggsy Bogues is the best basketball player of all time.
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>>41599714
>Pyrros Dimas
That's not how you spell Naim Süleymanoğlu
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>>41599778
This. The current heavyweight world champion is Joseph Parker, who is... WHITE

Mayweather is a manlet and will get starched Parker
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>>41599438
>Why do whites dominate all strength based sports, are they naturally better?
>strenght based sports

literally none of those are strenght based sports
bait harder
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>>41599818

Uh, I think you might be legitimately retarded. He's from New Zealand, and is of obvious Maori descent.
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>>41599243
what about boxing?
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>>41599664
check out the rings nigger
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>>41599169
For some reason black people have much better fast twitch fibers genetically
so they excel in agility/reflex based sports.
white people, euro's particularly excel in pure strenght, must be that germanic mongrel blood
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>>41599859
He's behind Peyton Manning in literally every stat but Super bowl wins. He's not even close to as dominant at his position as LT was at his.
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>>41599198
Friendly reminder that most welfare recipients are white
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>>41599948

Most people in the US are white
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>>41599948

Yeah and whites in the US fart more than blacks. And have more sex. And shit more. And spit more. And breathe more.

Because there are more white people you god damn retard. You'll be shocked to learn, that in China, blacks commit the lowest crime! It's all done by those shady ass asians! hurrrr
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>>41599948
*Adjusted for population representation, blacks consume a disproportionately large chunk of welfare payouts and stay supported by the program much longer than whites
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>>41599957
You obviously haven't been to California.
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>>41599438
>greatest baseball player was black

Dafuq?
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>>41599876
This is the only sensible comment in the entire thread
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>>41599169
The GOAT boxer is black...
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>>41599553
>wsm favouring Hall
No. This narrative has to stop, it's obvious bollocks.
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>>41600079
>Marciano
>black
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>>41599787
That's not how you misspell Lü Xiaojun
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>>41600130
>the bag for barrel switch last year
>squat, deadlift, and overhead press are three of the events this year
They obviously wanted Hall to win. It's better for the sport if different people win it. It's the same reason I wouldn't be surprised to start consistently seeing 1 or 2 throwing events every year.
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>>41599409
You also forget Demetrious mightymotherfuckingmouse Johnson and Anderson Silva in his prime.
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>>41599649
Lamar Gant is black.
And the GOAT powerlifter is Ed Coan (white)
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>>41599169
>are they naturally better?

Yes.
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Strongman and lifting aren't sports though
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>>41600269
Weightlifting is the only sport that involves lifting weights
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>>41600210
Sumo, tug of war, and arm wrestling used to separate the men from the boys. Not to mention shit like iron bar bending that has nothing to do with athletic ability, just being a bull strong motherfucker.
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>>41599438

>How can white boys even compete?
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>>41600184
Marciano is the #1 in what regard?

Sugar Ray is objectively a superior fighter
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>>41599169
not sure if this is accurate but I remember reading something about this, where a lot of African descendents (particularly West Africa) have very good genetics for burst strength (basically the speed at which the body can flex a muscle/tendon/whatever) which is a huge advantage to most high level athletes, particularly for short/bursty type sports like American football or short distance running

Likewise Whites (particularly Scandis) have good genetics for raw strength/endurance, this is why the strongest man competitions are utterly dominated by Sven and Knut and whenever it isn't it is always won by a Baltic or Slav guy. Asians can do pretty decently at strength competitions as well although no one really matches the Scandinavians.

Not sure what's up with the long distance runners but I imagine East Africans have the inside track here with the way Kenyans just dominate those marathons.
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>>41600370
Marciano KO'd him though
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>>41599948
>nigger who doesn't know how statistics work
color me surprised
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>>41599221
> running away from police/responsibility
> jumping out the bathroom window after getting a girl pregnant

Ftfy
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>>41599169
White people tend to have a desire for more, to better themselves. Niggers only have a desire to exist.
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>>41599649
Doesn't Ilya Ilyin have more international medals in general? Or are you not counting him because he got popped?
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>>41599438
>childrens games taken too seriously

ayyyyyy
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>>41599169
>Whites dominate
>China dominated the 2016 Olympics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlifting_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics

Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>41599169
>Why haven't blacks or Asians had any success in strongman, lifting, or fighting sporting??
Is this a joke? 90% of GOAT boxers are black.
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>>41599389
>Mighty Mouse for flyweight
>Daniel Cormier vs Jon Jones for light heavyweight
>Tyron Woodley for welterweight

Just because you're wrong doesn't mean you have to post about it.
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>>41599169
There have been loads of quality Black fighters, especially boxers. Muhammed Ali, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Marvin Hagler, Floyd Mayweather, Joe Frazier etc
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>>41599408
>>41600813
>this one exception overrides everything! niggers are just as good!
>it's not fair, niggers have to work harder so they shouldn't be judged to the same standards

Cry harder
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All the strong black dudes wreck their bodies playing football/make bank playing basketball, Asians will continue to be too small for another generation or too.
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Fun game everyone can play at home!
Take a shot everytime you see bait thread in the catalog!
Take two if it involves race!
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>>41600194

That's not how you spell Ilya Iliyn
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>>41599169
Olympic lifting is almost exclusively asian countries.
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>>41599876
Thank you based neanderthal genes.
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>>41600758

No. He would've equaled Dimas with gold medals had he participated in Rio, but would still need another medal to equal total olympic medals. But I do think he has more world championships. And he's never lost any competition he's entered.

Him not breaking every single world record imaginable at Rio is just the biggest robbery of our generation desu.
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>>41599876
>niggers
>agility

No, they are built for endurance.
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Whats the point of baiting people if it isnt funny?
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>>41599169
Floyd Mayweather
Mike Tyson
Roy Jones Jr
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>>41600861
No one said that. We just gave you examples of some of the best fighters ever who were black.
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>>41599477
>What is street ball and the Negro Leagues?
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>>41600861
Anderson Silva
Jon Jones
Rashad Evans
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>>41599169
Chinks dominate weightlifting except in two heaviest classes.
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>>41599438
>mfw the greatest soccer player in history was black
>implying pele was better than maradona
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>>41599169
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>>41600922
>That's not how you spell Ilya Iliyn
>Ilya Iliyn
>Iliyn
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>>41599552
Babe Ruth was fucking awful. Are you serious?
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>>41600616
>I don't care about how much welfare costs us altogether, just about punishing a group that contributes comparatively negligibly to the bottom line, which is understandable since they were cut off from the biggest giveaway of free fucking money the government has ever engaged in and had most of their successful urban centers destroyed on purpose by building highways right through the middle of them

Let's go, /pol/
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>>41601127

kek I honestly don't know how to spell his name

But hes the greatest weightlifter. He absolutely destroyed three different weight classes and would've won gold at 105 in Rio. Instead we get le cheeky tongue uzbek man instead
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>>41601128
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>>41599468
fuck off, nigger. everyone knows you're a skinny 5'7 faggot
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>>41599649
>Greatest UFC fighter of all time: Conor Mcgregor
Lmao get out potato nigger
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>>41599649
>greatest strongman
>Shaw
Sit down boy
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>>41601143
confirmed for not understanding proportions
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>>41601153
Stop living in the past. He had his gimmick. That was it. He struck out most of the time
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>>41600928
only in low weightclasses

Eurasians (Slavs/Kazhaks/Iranians) dominate at higher weightclasses, which are more or less caucasoid with some asian admixture
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>>41599169
>Why haven't blacks or Asians had any success in strongman, lifting, or fighting sporting??
>or fighting sporting

You fucking what?
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>>41599169
>blacks have no success in fighting sport
U wot m8?
Majority of elite boxers are black
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>>41599649
greatest mma fighter = fedor
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>>41599649
scoliosis
> the best
kek

go fuck urself
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>>41601203
>It's more important to deal with a small wound which is bleeding at a relatively high rate for its size than a wound that's bleeding at half the rate but is 5 times bigger.

You fix thr wound that is bleeding the most first, rate be damned.
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>>41599649
>Greatest strongman of all time: Brian Shaw
Wrong. Literally holds the guinness record for the strongest man.
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ITT: whities continously btfo
Why are the goat boxers black?
Why are football teams 90% black
Weightlifting. Dominated by asains.
Best Super heavy raw powerlifter is
currently black.
Best female tennis player.
Best gymnast. Black female.
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>>41599876
Decent post in a sea of garbage
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>>41599649
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>>41600993
>>41600813
They all were originally white and paid by jews to get race reassignment surgery
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Strength sports arent big in the black community. All big strong black dudes go into the NFL
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>>41599818

Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua also have belts at HW. Both black and both have better resumes
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>>41601794

>Bigger wound is suddenly opened wider by some liberal thinking immigration works and starts bleeding at extremely vast rate.

Nah just patch up that pin prick first lad.
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>>41599169
Maybe a cultural thing?
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>>41602210
Tyson Fury is goat and would slap both of them silly after railing an 8ball
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>>41599969
nah bro ur just racist
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>>41602231
The terrorism bogeyman again?
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>>41599169

slavs are the strongest

fact
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>>41599712
Joe pls go
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>>41599409

>mayweather

mayweather is shit and paper
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>>41601964
>polish turd
>not based BIG Z

kys retard lmao
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>>41599778
>Tbh, boxing is gay because of weight classes.
Pretty much all combat sports have weight classes. If that's the only negative thing you can say about boxing, then try harder.
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>>41599169
DEXfags, when will they ever learn?
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>>41599389
>his wife has to look at that retarded tattoo every time he's on top of her
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>>41604177
Yes I'm sure she's extremely disappointed while he fucks her on a king size pillow top mattress in their mansion while his personal chef cooks them a post sex snack.
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>>41601147
Nurudinov is fucking strong though. Ilya pretty much unashamedly dbols+bulks; at least the others are subtle. If Tian Tao starts training his fucking snatch some more we may see Chinese domination 56kg-85kg all the way through. With Russia held back it's pretty much all Asian domination with some interspersed Columbians and Egyptians.
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>>41599649
>Memegregor
Oh yeah, the guy who's defended his belt zero (0) times. If you want to pick a white guy choose gsp ffs.
You're definitely right about Shaw (or just strongman in general). Can't say I know enough about pl or wl.
But yeah, mma goat is either DJ (p4p goat) or Jon Jones (probably goat). A guy like rumble would probably be the scariest person on the world to fight.
I'm not black or white, you've just got to be objective about things man.
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>>41599169
MONEY. All the elite black athletes go into basketball or football because it's a lottery ticket for them and their family to get the fuck out of the ghetto. Strength based sports don't provide this potential payout leaving it for whiteboys who already have money and are doing it because they just like to lift heavy ass shit. Also since when do the Chinese not have success in oly lifting?
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>>41601201
My man
>>41601099
Exactly, i agree with a lot of what those guys say, and it's good to hear. But does EVERYTHING have to be pol?
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>>41599169
China has the best Olympic Weightlifting team in the world.
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>>41599169
>Why do whites dominate all strength based sports

because all the elite black athletes are in the nba or nfl
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>>41599243
This oppression complex of american blacks is quite pathological at this point
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>>41599649
>brian shaw
>not big z
you need to go back
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>>41599184
>conquer entire planet multiple times before steroids
?
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>>41599649
its obvious you know nothing about weightlifting and just googled world records, because taranenko is the greatest of all time
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>>41602231
The biggest problem got worse and you chose to ignore it? No wonder America is dying.
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Daily reminder Thor was not robbed. Daily reminder Thor is crying sore loser the same as Brian, fucking pathetic
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>>41604294
This. Also remember that the few pro strength athletes that don't have to have day jobs pay their way either with sponsorships or their own businesses. Number one rule: any job field that relies on white people having to make a choice about how you'll perform with their gut will be shit for black people. So they avoid it.
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Asians do amazing at Olympic style weightlifting. They dominate or are strong presences in multiple combat sports. Judo, karate (both point and full contact) Sambo and Olympic style taekwondo. Blacks dominate in boxing. They also have a presence in bodybuilding. Stop talking rubbish OP.
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>>41604368
>White people always have to be the center of attention, even for shit that's objectively shitty.
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Olympic silver medalist in 50 free was black

World record tie in breaststroke was black

More blacks, especially those in the growing middle-upper middle classes, are getting involved in aquatics and shitting on the white stereotype that "Niggers can't swim hurr durr"

That's the most telling of alll. Blacks took a stereotype and COMPLETELY reversed it.

Also back in the plantation days blacks were seen as PHYSICALLY INFERIOR - cause white slavemasters didn't fucking feed them and give them cell tech or rest. Now all of a sudden blacks are explosive athletes, and now they're physically inferior to whites AGAIN?

Make up your fucking minds. Or better yet stop reaching. Sports won't even matter in the next 10 years anyways when Islam forbids all western forms of entertainment worldwide
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>>41599169
Asians do pretty well in weightlifting bro. Look at the oylmpics
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Since /pol/, /fit/ has gotten really shit
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>>41605822
lol. pol and fit were added to 4chan within just a few months of eachother.
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>>41599251

Go back to eve online you fisherman.
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>>41605773

In lightweight shit lmao
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>>41605822

/pol/, /new/ whatever has almost always been around newfuck

a board composed of 90% white males is going to reflect the general sentiment, just like black twitter is full of pro negro retardation
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>>41599438
>larry Bird
>black
wut
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>>41605940
Most of the people who post on black twitter are white guys pretending to be black.
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>>41605952

I don't know what black twitter you are browsing

I'm not talking about 4chan memes
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Boxing: Mike Tyson, Mayweather, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray

MMA: Jon Jones, Anderson Silva
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>>41599328
..yup
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>>41599438
Tom Brady and Federer aren't black
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>>41599438
B-but Scalabrine is 100% Aryan masterrace.
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>>41599438
it's almost like we specifically bred them for athletic ability.

>mfw the greatest baseball player in history was black
Babe Ruth is the best baseball player.
>mfw the greatest NFL player in history was black
Tom Brady is the greatest NFL player at the most important position in the sport.
The best coach of all time (Belichick) is also white
>mfw the greatest NBA player in history was black
Jordan is obviously #1 but Bird would be up there if he played in today's game with the
>mfw the greatest boxer in history was black

>mfw the greatest soccer player in history was black

>mfw the greatest tennis player in history was black
Messi or Maradona who are both white (Argentines)
>mfw the greatest golfer in history was black
I never saw Nicklaus in his prime and Woods was extremely dominant for his run, but he's still 4 majors behind Nicklaus and will probably never win.

Nicklaus is slightly better than Woods on this one

>best MMA fighter
Fedor
>best cricketer
Sir Don Bradman and then a bunch of poo in loos after that
>best rugby player
probably an escaped australian prisoner
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>>41601223
Yeah, here were his gimmicks that wre records:
home runs (714), runs batted in (RBIs) (2,213), bases on balls (2,062), slugging percentage (.6897), and on-base plus slugging (OPS) (1.164); the latter two still stand today.
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>>41606222
fucked part of this up

>mfw the greatest soccer player in history was black
Messi or Maradona who are both white (Argentines)
>mfw the greatest tennis player in history was black
Federer
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Top 10 sports worldwide and their GOAT:

1) Futbol: Messi (white)
2) Cricket: Dan Bradman (white)
3) Field Hockey: ???
4) Tennis: Roger Federer (white)
5) Volleyball: ???
6) Table Tennis: Jan-Ove Waldner (white)
7) Baseball: Babe Ruth (white)
8) Golf: Jack Nicklaus (white)
9) Basketball: Michael Jordan (black)
10) American Football: Tom Brady (white)

7/8 of the top sports have white GOATs, despite white people being a minority in the world
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>>41600861
You really are delusional are you? No wonder the Jews are winning.
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>>41601153
Lmfao. Why are you on /fit/? In todays MLB Ruth would not survive.
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>>41599552
Tom Brady is the greatest qb. Not the greatest player.
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>>41606273
2 thru 6 are faggy.
7 is false.
Golf is for old people.
And Tom Brady is the best QB ever. Football has positions to specialized for there to be 1 indisputable GOAT.
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>>41606406
QB is the most important position in the sport and Brady is the undisputed GOAT
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>>41599169
Blacks are good at running and jumping, but typically aren't that strong.
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>>41599169
What do we mean by "white"? Are you measuring by saying everyone with a pale skin tone is white, and everyone with a dark skin tone is black? No, no, wait. That's retarded and doesn't fit your narrative.
Maybe you are trying to say all of the European / Caucasoids white skin tones vs all the brown vs all the yellow, vs all the red vs all the black. Fuck, wait...hold up. There has to be a way of saying, "All the pale skinned races at the top of their game in the sporting world are on my team. Everyone Else is a separate ethnicity. There.

Eat dick you fucking idiot. Not only is this tangentially related to fitness, but your criteria is so retarded that the only response you will get (verily, the only response you are looking for) is a "white" power circlejerk.

By the numbers, do the Irish beat out the Italians in boxing? If so, are "whites" dominating boxing or are Italians dominating boxing?
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>>41600616
80% of the black population still consumes less welfare than the majority of whites thatre on it. It's all about cost and whites drain far more than blacks. Hence whites are a greater drain on society
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>>41606461
TLDR: Stupid nigger thinks white people don't exist.

>By the numbers, do the Irish beat out the Italians in boxing? If so, are "whites" dominating boxing or are Italians dominating boxing?

Yes because it's both whites fighting at the top level.
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>>41599198
Soccer, football, basketball
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>>41606461

"Caucasians"

you know what he means dumbass
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>>41606482
Only a nigger could be this dumb. Blacks make up about 13% of the US population, but commit over 50% of all murders.

Even if they only committed 40% of all murders, that would still be an insanely disproportionate murder rate, it means that blacks kill at a MUCH higher rate than whites.

Niggers like you are so dumb they can't understand proportions. Whites are a greater drain on society? You would still be living in the literal stone age without white people, like Africans did for thousands of years before migrants came. You were in the literal stone age, while at the same time white people and East Asians built amazing civilizations.

Niggers would be better off in the stone age, they can't function in a modern capitalistic society.
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>>41606489
It's not like I expected you to be literate but to be this fucking stupid AND easily race baited? *slow clap* Bravo boy, you do the trailer park proud.
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>>41599221
Blacks have amazing self esteem and are naturally better dancers
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>>41599169
>Why haven't blacks or Asians had any success in strongman, lifting, or fighting sporting??
Neither do """whites""" anglos germanics celts.
Best fighters and lifters are slavs.
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>>41606512
Yeah I do, it's in the post lol. Op means to cherry pick all the pale skin tones that Excel in their sport. And I am pointing out that is not a proper measurement UNLESS the "whites are better than everyone else" narrative makes your dick wiggle.

I really wanna ask when and why /fit/ got so retarded. This board used to be a funny / motivational haven from the generic gayness of other fitness sites. Slowly but surely faggots like you and the DYEL's of pol have poisoned and warped this place. Why? For a minute long jolt of superiority derived from an anonymous image board? It is truly pitiful.

And not /fit/ related.
You win faggots.
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There's more money in basketball and football. That's why blacks don't do powerlifting and UFC.
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>>41606416
>QB is the most important position in the sport
correct
>>41606416
>Brady is the undisputed GOAT
Really? Because I'm disputing it, so it can't be true. Thanks for trying.
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>>41599438
Reminder: This is some fat loser from /pol/ with nothing better to do than to try and race bait.
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>>41604354
So whites can claim to be the best in any sport if we simply say the majority of our best athlete are in the military or have good jobs....
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>>41606482
Whites put more in than they take out this is not true for Black.....
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>>41606596
>literally will go on live tv and tear up that they are a victim class and need help
>self esteem
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>>41599633
>life time
Jordan doesn't get knocked for his Wizards years m8.
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>>41601143
>it has nothing to do with IQ or genetics, if we just continue to blindly throw money at the black community, despite it not helping in the past, I'm SURE they will perform at the same level as whites or even asians.
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Asians dominate oly lifting burh
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>>41607340
You understand that this chart is meaningless right? All it does is highlight an issue. It does not explain it. You're posting it as though it supports your "hurr black people are genetically inferior" but it doesn't. There is nothing superior about you if you don't understand basic principles of statistics like correlation and causality.
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>>41599169
Whites have the greatest mix of neanderthal DNA of any modern human population and thus are more likely to have traits in common with them, including their far greater mass and musculature. This is my personal theory on the topic anyway, in addition to whites having access to the most nutritious food on average.
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>>41607366
What is your explanation for the fact that there is a clear gap in intelligence levels between whites and blacks even when directly accounting for socioeconomic status, which is the most common excuse used among those who deny the realities of race and genetics in favor of postmodernist diversity propaganda?
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>>41607366
Everyone knows about "Correlation does not equal causation," but you specifically said " just about punishing a group that contributes comparatively negligibly to the bottom line, which is understandable since they were cut off from the biggest giveaway of free fucking money the government has ever engaged in"

So I gave you a chart that demonstrated how even when controlling for income, racial IQ gaps still exist. If you think there is some other factor please tell.
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>>41607340
>>41607366
I'm not even going to wait for your response because I doubt you would even have one. The fact is you are just some fucking idiot on the internet who's been fed a certain narrative by /pol/ and other autistic circle jerks that are no better than the worst of the left. You lack the most basic of critical thinking skills that would allow you to see the obvious faults in all the conjecture, yet you sit there thinking you are the enlightened few who understand how society truly works. You're preaching about genetic inferiority while we don't even have to go that deep.

You are inferior. You cannot cling to your race that you've decided is best and pretend like it redeems any of your own personal short comings.
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>>41607422
>waaaah I have literally no argument so I'm gonna have a tantrum because I'm offended :(((

Simply epic, you've convinced me. Statistics, genetics, history, and basic common sense have all been thwarted by you ranting against an imageboard.
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>>41607437
Who's offended? Do you think because I disagree with you that I am black?
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>>41607449
At what point did I say you were black? I just said you were offended, which you clearly were given how sensitive your response was.
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>>41607422
>"how dare you use statistics, you must be a brainwashed /pol/ack
>The same you cling to the accomplishments of your race because you have none of your own argument.

If I'm an idiot then refute the statistics retard.
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>>41599438
please differentiate between africans and offspring of slaves (breeded by white people) and you will understand it.


aricans only succeed in one sport and that is long distance running, everythibg else they suck
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>>41607458
I can't see any other way you would assume that I am offended. Your stupidity doesn't offend me. Perhaps it should considering we are of the same species but regardless it does not.
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>>41607295
Yet it still cost welfare far less to give to majority of blacks then whites hence whites are a bigger drain on society than blacks. This is a fact
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>>41607468
>I can't see any other way you would assume that I am offended

I just explained it to you, retard. Can you read? You replied like a sensitive bitch with zero arguments because you're evidently incapable of producing any. If you want to actually convince people and prevent yourself right, stop being a faggot and bring forth a refutation to our claim, not a rant about the /pol/ boogeyman
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>>41607468
A German Shepard and a Labrador Retriever are still the same species, however that does not mean there are meaningful differences between them.
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The butthurg nigger is blaming pol, whew.
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>>41599169
Ray Williams has the highest raw total in powerlifting
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>>41607477
Have you ever considered who pays for welfare?

Who do you think the majority demographic is that provides for it?

Have you realized that it's whites, and that if whites are the ones paying for the vast majority of welfare, more than their portion of the population, then it is literally economically impossible for them to be a drain on the population?

In fact, white men are the only ones who suffer a net loss on taxes, as they can pay the most while requiring the least assistance. Really makes my noggin jog

>>41607480
*prove not prevent
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>>41607422

lmao he replied before you even posted this hahaha #btfo
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>>41607480
Curb your autism. If you feel the need to convince yourself that I'm offended by what you said as some kind of coping mechanism be my guest.

You don't have an argument. None of you do. You all have a bunch of meme charts that barely imply anything and by no means explain anything. Genetic influence on iq is very, very complicated and even more so when it comes to its actual reflection within a western society.
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>>41607529
>he's bringing psychology into it

You really are mad, perhaps you are a nigger.

We don't have arguments? Can you respond to this post I made?
>>41607418 That isn't an argument?

I think you realise you're retarded and are highly insecure about it. Don't blame you.
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>>41599169
Most black men tall enough to compete in strongman competitions are actual athletes who do pro sports and make more money than strongmen

Blacks dominate boxing
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>>41607502
White men aren't even the majority anymore so your point is moot.
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>>41599184
>blacks don't use steroids
>>41599243
Black people compete too, they just don't win
>>41599408
>>41599409
>tyson
>may weather
>ufc
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>>41607547
How is that relevant in any way, shape, or form?

My comment was simply a reflection on the fact that white men are literally the sole demographic who provides a net gain for society. The fact that they aren't a majority makes that point twice as powerful.
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>>41607544
>blacks dominate boxing
Rocky marciano is white
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>>41599169
Dark Blue Blue Jeans look stupid on everybody, leave that shit in the 70s.
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>>41607502
>they can pay the most while requiring the least assistance

They require the most assistance. That's the entire point. You can't mental gymnastics your way out of that
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>>41600861
Demetrious Johnson
Anthony Johnson
Tyron Woodley
Rampage Jackson
Daniel Cormier
Alistar Overeem
Kevin Randleman
King Mo
Derrick Lewis
Kimbo Slice
DADA 5000
Bob Sapp
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>>41607529
>post multiple charts that can easily be reversed searched for authenticity
>continues to say you have no argument and call them meme charts

Maybe you will believe intelligence researchers then.
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>>41607561
Except they don't, and even if they did, they are still the only demographic who pay in more than they leech out. Thus, they are literally the only demographic who is not a "drain on society"
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>>41607543
Wow it's almost like iq isn't a stupidly simple thing and perhaps is impacted by factors other than just socioeconomic status and genetics.
hmmmmm :thinking:

Call me a nigger and post your best reaction face again, maybe then you'll win the argument.
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>>41607547
White people are and they pay into welfare more than they take out....
Your not good at this are you?
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>>41599712
Points are for faggots
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>>41599169
I heard on some podcast i think, they were saying if all the black kids who played football as a kid and later go on to the nfl, were to instead start with mma and pursue that, their would maybe be more blacks in it.
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>>41607584
Ah, okay, so what's your argument for it? What effects it besides wealth, class, and genetics that still allows you to justify the idea of Africans being totally the same as white people in all respects?

You have no argument. You have conjecture based on zero evidence and no actual idea. You're literally just saying "well I think it's probably something else maybe XD" while never even attempting to explain how or what that could be.

Nigger.
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>>41607495
>lying this hard

It's don reinhoudt, who is white. Lol
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>>41599921
So behind every stat except the one that matters?
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>>41599649
>why dont Asians win Western sports competitions?
They dont compete, this is low quality bait. The only reason I'm giving you the (you) is to point out that China, Iran, and a few other Asian countries dominate Olympic weightlifting.
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>>41607574
You're still missing the point. Statistics are statistics. The wild conclusions you people draw after interpreting them are the problem here.

Did you literally just post a chart of a bunch of 'intelligence researchers' disagreeing with each other and then claim that your particular answer is supported?
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>Those socks

Come on man
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>>41603258
All that squatting needs to come in handy somewhere
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>>41607613
This is how a women argues m8

>evidence is evidence but the way you use it is what's wrong here.
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>>41607613
It is up to you to refute the idea that the statistics are not due to racial differences. We've already shown that accounting for socioeconomic status does not effect a very real discrepancy. What is it that you think it is? And once you elaborate on that, why don't you post your statistics supporting that claim? See, that's how a debate is actually supposed to go, with the use of facts and data combined with a compelling case compiled using basic common sense.

Essentially this
>>41607623
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>>41607605
>justify the idea of Africans being totally the same as white people in all respects
I've never said this.
>well I think it's probably something else maybe XD
Is something entirely different to acknowledging that leading researchers qualified in these fields are years from being able to draw accurate conclusions themselves.

I'm not here to explain the difference. I am here to tell you that YOU cannot explain the difference and you are beyond ignorant for assuming that you can. If you want to actually have this argument stop arguing against some strawman that you have created.
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>>41599169
going to ignore the racism in this thread and just say it's likely a cultural thing... i think these sports are less lucrative as well so there's no incentive to participate as opposed to football, basketball, etc. i think that middle class black people are more likely to play traditionally "white" sports like lacrosse, tennis, etc. as well as compete in strength sports
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>>41607638
>I've never said this

So you agree there's a very real difference between races, or at least Africans and whites? We agree.
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>>41607615

Wow I actually know what that thing is
>See him
>Knights of the Round Table
>10 hour cast animation
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>>41607641
Yet black people DO compete in strength sports, and that it's not just a cultural thing, but genetic?
>these are the people giving advice on /fit/
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>>41607623
Interpret being the key word you willingly overlooked. If you stop short on giving all the supporting facts only to highlight the ones that support your twisted ideals then you're not being truthful to the facts at all when you butcher them
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>>41607613
>the wild conclusions you draw from these "statistics" are the problem
Then please give me an explanation for the IQ gap among races if it still persist, even when controlling for income, and home environment, you people are so wrapped up in you warped view of egalitarianism to even consider that genes might play a role in IQ. THAT'S why I posted the chart 34% of intelligence researches think the black/white IQ gap is a result of 60-99% heretiability
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>>41607623
Wrong. It isn't evidence. Evidence suggests that it inherently supports something. Statistics are not evidence towards your random claims.

>>41607635
Actually no, in all regards the burden of proof is on you for making the claim that they are and no I do not need to post contrary statistics to simply explain why you are wrong. You may or may not be wrong on the statistics but you are certainly wrong in how you use them and it's probably not a good idea to agree with somebody who completely misunderstands the difference between evidence that supports a claim and statistics.
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>>41607652
Nothing is being left out the state of things are being objectively displayed...
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>>41599169
>>41599389
MMA: Daniel Cormier, Jon Jones, Tyron Woodley, Jose Aldo, Demitrious Johnson.
Boxing: Anthony Joshua, and countless other blacks, asians, and spics that dominate the 850 weight classes in boxing.

Try harder
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>>41607674
>no I do not need evidence contradicting your claim in order to prove you wrong when you have already supplied evidence which supports your own claims

This is how fucking retarded you sound.
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>>41607674
>statistics are not evidence.

Wow
Your done m8

The objective reality is nigger are dumber and the burden of proof to show that's not a characteristic of the category that is literally tested is on you.
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>>41599688
that list was memey but maccanio was pretty fucking amazing, he had consistently good competition and boxing was gigantic when he was doing it. And he still made most of them look like chumps.

Also he had less "help" recovering between fights than modern fighters.
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>>41607674
>Wrong. It isn't evidence. Evidence suggests that it inherently supports something.
Fucking hell dude, IT DOES support something, it shows that IQ gap is not solely dictated by environmental factors.
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>>41607678
Plenty is being left out when you omit all the facts that support an idea
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>>41607643
Of course differences exist. However, you sit there making the giant leap to "x is superior". We do not agree. Your position is a far cry from the simple acknowledgement of differences.

>>41607656
How are you not seeing this? I don't have to explain it. I cannot. Nobody can precisely explain it. My argument in no way relies on my own ability to explain it. I am simply pointing out that like me, and everyone as qualified as people can be, cannot explain it either.
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>some faggots as greatest boxers all the thread
>not GGG
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>yfw some faggots think that nordcucks are best strength athletes
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>>41607708
>How are you not seeing this? I don't have to explain it. I cannot. Nobody can precisely explain it. My argument in no way relies on my own ability to explain it. I am simply pointing out that like me, and everyone as qualified as people can be, cannot explain it either.

I've tried being polite as possible man, but Jesus Christ you're an imbecile, if you cannot articulate your counter argument than how the hell am I suppose to adjust my opinions to new evidence?
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>>41599169
>asians
>not in fighting
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>>41607696
>>41607735

Let me explain it in simple terms because at this point I'm completely in disbelief as to how many of you fail to understand this.

I'm not here to provide an alternative opinion. If you want to find one go get qualifications and do real research yourself or closely follow not only the statistics researched by qualified people but also their opinions and interpretations.

If you say 1+2=4, to say that you are wrong I do not need to say 1+2 actually equals 3. All I need to do is explain how your own process was wrong.

>>41607706
Actually, no, wrong again. If the data is to be trusted it simply shows that the IQ gap is not solely dictated by the controlled environmental factors and even still that is a far cry from the rest of the claims that people are trying to deduce from it.
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>>41599198
Hey i work at 7-11 and I'm Armenian.
You weiner.
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>>41607739
This as well as por pramuk
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>>41599389
The greatest boxers of all time are all black

Look at every single weight bracket

Even in MMA a large number of top fighters or up and coming fighters are black

It's more of a culture thing than a race thing. MMA was barely a sport until 5 years ago and it was pretty much whites only. In 5 to 10 years once mma gyms spring up in ghetto areas it'll become black dominated or a 50/50 split.

Access to train is the biggest barrier. How many black guys watch worlds strongest man or UFC/K1/Anyother martial arts tournament?
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>>41607758
>If the data is to be trusted it simply shows that the IQ gap is not solely dictated by the controlled environmental factors
Was this established in the extract, or are you simply establishing this narrative now?
Where was it stated that socioeconomic factors have been accounted for?
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>>41607707
See>>41607697


The objective reality is nigger are dumber when tested as a race so to say itd not a component of said testes group required the burned of proof be on you, this is from simply reading the results.
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>>41599456
You meant to say pele
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>>41599227
Well fucking duh anon, i hope you or anyone else have never actually lifted in a shit attempt to project fighting competencey with your size.
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>>41607776
Every mma fighter to NFL player from pee wee above has a weight training routine.
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>>41607786
Tested*
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>>41607776
>The greatest boxers of all time are all black
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>>41599221
and fucking white women
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>>41607782
I'd say it's established at roughly the time of any basic highschool science class, brace yourself for a real surprise here, conclusions can only be drawn for tested factors.
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>>41607758
Trust me, when you hold as unpopular opinions as these there have been all sorts of ways people have tried to debunk this.

Income?
Nope racial IQ gap still persist even when controlling for income

Home Environment
Nope blacks adopted by white parents still score roughly the same as if they were raised by black parents

What about mixed people
nope white admixture has been shown to positively correlate with IQ among black/white mixed individuals.

So what else could it be? Sooner or later people are going to have to accept genes may play a role, that is not a wild or crazy accusation to make.
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>>41607812
Lol according to literally every study black males are the least desired
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>>41607812
Actually they fail at that as well.
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>>41607812
Mixed children are less than 10 percent of the pop and most are Hispanic and white....
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>>41607830
Tru
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>>41607814
Have you ever actually read a study?
It is extraordinarily common to find outside factors that are contributing to the results that have not been properly eliminated or accounted for. Sometimes these are mentioned in the abstract, and are there for the purposes of further research.
It's the reason why many studies on the same issue can produce vastly different results.
Unless otherwise stated it can be assumed that socioeconomic factors were not taken into account, especially since they were statistical studies strictly intended for gathering mathematical data.
But hey if you didn't cover that in your remedial science class it's understandable.
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>>41607818
When somehow we have managed to control for everything then we will be able to draw accurate conclusions. If this happens and there is truly no explanation left than "black people are dumb" then so be it.

Let me ask you this. Say we do establish that the mean difference in iq's is the expected 5 or so points. How does that still account for all the things that disproportionately effect black people? 5 points of iq does not explain the tremendous differences in incarceration rates and crime rates etc. There are serious problems. But simply saying that black people have less iq, especially when unproven does not do anything to combat these problems.
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>>41607844
Then thank you for supporting my argument. Carry on.
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>>41607818
>Income?
>Nope racial IQ gap still persist even when controlling for income
Source? Surely if you have such confidence in this claim you can pinpoint an instance where this was taken into account.
>Home Environment
>Nope blacks adopted by white parents still score roughly the same as if they were raised by black parents
And how did adopted children score overall? Was it statistically different than the adopted black children?
>What about mixed people
>nope white admixture has been shown to positively correlate with IQ among black/white mixed individuals.
This shows a potential 1home factors being in play.
>So what else could it be? Sooner or later people are going to have to accept genes may play a role, that is not a wild or crazy accusation to make.
If I see someone provide what I have asked for above I might see the validity in such claims, but as it stands I do not.
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>>41607849
Blacks crime rate is totally different factors that whites have no control over do you think races commit crime at equal rates?

Blake men rape the most women in whole numbers
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>>41607849
>When somehow we have managed to control for everything then we will be able to draw accurate conclusions.
Of course, I'm not saying that we can speak in 100% certainty, but let's not act like the people that are suggesting a genetic component are complete crazies, because the arrow points in that direction, but sure there may be other factors I'm not thinking of.

>>41607877
See:>>41607340

Minnesota Trans racial Adoption study in pic related
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>>41607944
IQ among latin american countries positively correlate with European admixture.
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>>41607944
See this is more so what I am looking for.
The Lynn study has been called out for using low quality sources though.

Also I would like to state that it was found via The Flynn Effect that the IQ gap has actually been closing over the decades. It does indicate that as the inequality gap has begun closing so too has the IQ gap.
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>>41608012
Actually the Flynn effect does not evensuggest it would ever close and it works in both directions.
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>they don't know
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>>41607449
>Do you think because I disagree with you that I am black?
I honestly hope to God that you are. How can a man be THIS much of a cuckold to deny that their race is unique in any way, even that their race even exists in the first place?
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>>41599438
Didn't know the Klitschko brothers were black, who'd a thought?
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>>41608137
>pretending someone said something so you can pretend to be right
now THAT is what I call being a cuckold, lmfao.
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>>41608137
Me again

How are you gonna sit there and pretend that the opposing argument is literally "there are no differences at all" to two groups of people who have a great many obvious differences?

Do you really need to set the bar that low for yourself so you can have a say? That's hilariously sad.
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>>41607407

It's actually east asians that are most genetically similar to neanderthal.
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>>41599649
>Greatest powerlfiter of all time: Lamar Gant
its ed coan idiot
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>>41599649
>Greatest UFC fighter of all time: Conor Mcgregor
lmao kill yourself
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>>41607280
you're retarded
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>>41599184

>sport where drug use and control are equal among all nations(as in, no anti doping at all)
>whites dominate

Hmmmm

hmmm, makes you think
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>>41608834

The idea here is obviously that when drug use is equal among all races- drugs are basically a non factor since it's something everyone does from the get go - whites are prone to dominate.
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>>41607698
Marciano did not have good competition wth. That was his whole problem. His best win is an old, retired Joe Louis and he still gave him trouble
He also looked bad in lots of fights he should've won handily

No one regards him as a GOAT, except retards who think that an undefeated record means something (also why people think Mayweather is up there despite not being as skilled or having accomplishments - actually fighting fighters in their prime - like the real GOATs)

Real GOATS would be Joe Louis, Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran, Chavez Jr (who was at one point 87-0), Roy Jones Jr, Henry Armstrong etc

Greatest non hispanic white boxer would probably be Harry Greb or Benny Leonard.
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>>41606596
>naturally better dancers
No we're not "naturally better" you fucking retard, we're better dancers because dancing is a big part of black culture.
Your outdated meme proves it
>>
another beta white thread

whatever makes you low test crackers feel better lmao
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>>41606537
>Arrests
>Commit
Also most white people are killed by other white people.
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>>41607340
There's also a persistent wealth gap at income levels. Maybe IQ is correlated more with wealth than IQ, and black people of similar wealth levels as whites exhibit similar IQ levels?

Oops but that would poke a gigantic hole in your argument.
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>>41607421
Go look up the GI Bill and FHA discrimination you niller.
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>>41608938
>Dominate the world with military power
>Invent practically all relevant modern technology
>All worlds strongest men white
>Dominate all other races then decide it's bad and make ourselves stop

>low test
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>>41609924
Far more whites are killed by blacks than blacks killed by whites, including police.

Feel free to look up statistics.
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>>41599389
>Blacks get into street fights all the time
doesn't mean they know how to fight
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>>41607635
He did though. What you're trying to argue is like saying that birds can fly because they have wings. Ask Icarus hoe well that works. Genetics are a component in intelligence, but not the sole deciding factor in variability, and possibly not even the most important one (seeing as missiles don't need wings at all to fly).
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>>41607656
Income parity is not lifestyle parity. There's a wealth gap for blacks/whites of similar income levels which impacts everything from neonatal care to neigborhood quality (and therefore school quality, since school budgets are based on property taxes) to stress from encounters with police. IQ could be lower from nutritional disparities, epigenetic factors, stress factors, early childhood educational disparities, stereotype threat, etc.
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>>41610020
There's that bleeding analogy again.
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>>41609973
*more with wealth than income
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann%27s_rule
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>>41607607
Every stat except the one he has the least control over
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>>41610203
>Does not apply to Sub-Saharan Africans
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>>41610020
duh there are more whites
try harder faggot
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