>this is what Rippletits actually believes http://starti

he's not wrong. if you lift and progressively overload while eating right you will look like you lift

>>41588431

>Strength training is not popular right now

Crossfit is hugely popular among normies.

>>41588474
definitely. if you improve your lifts by say, 100%, you obviously will look more fit

>>41588494
CF is more like cardio. AMAP with shit form

>>41588494
>crossfit
>strength training

>>41588494
>crossfit
>strength training

Lmfao

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>>41588474
>you will look like you lift

>>41588494
>crossfit
>strength training
you are special one aren't you...

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Whats with the fat deposits (circled)?
I get that men can be strong without looking ripped, but this looks a bit like too many beers and burgers.

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>>41588431
>all bald

top kek they already failed at life, why even lift.

>>41588560
>High testosterone levels

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>>41588474

He says this while shitting on pic related

>>41588536
memes aside he looks stronger than the average normie would. Which is the entire purpose of the program, strength as efficiently as possible. Anyone have the before? Never actually seen it

They are old farts guys.

>>41588606
He looks like shit. No one cares how much you can squat if you're at 25% bodyfat.

>>41588575
He's just a stereotypical baby boomer mad about youth

>>41588633
nobody cares if you have abs and look like a stick figure either

>>41588494
Bait

>>41588647
rippeltoe plz go

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>>41588494

>>41588431
I seriously hope the guys is doing a set of 20+ reps.

No way an adult male should ever have a photo taken while deadlifting such babby weight.

>>41588647

Men don't but girls do

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>>41588657
goal body?

>>41588536
If he cut he'd look good. He just bulked hard from already being kinda fat and got more fat. SS itself doesn't make you fat, 4k calories a day do tho.

>>41588647
actually, women do as long as the frame fits. And I'm saying that as a regular gymcel

with that said, you have to cope quite hard to delude yourself into thinking the zachboy from SS looks decent, but he achieved good strength goals which is the point of the program. With my 8 years of experience I wouldn't recommend SS to someone who purely trains for looks though, rather PPL meme shit to make it simple.

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>>41588494

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>>41588633
>tfw 25% bf

>>41588684
SS is the best intro program. it only lasts 6-8 months tops. if you stay on it for more than a year you're an idiot

>>41588675
Nah he wouldn't, his upper body would still be subpar, but he would have decent-ish legs

>>41588536
Reverse google searched for the before, but that image is dead

However I did find his end stats

Bodyweight: 242
Bodyfat % measured at 7 skinfold sites (equation detailed below): 20.95%
LBM: 191.29 lbs.
Bodyweight increase in 15.4 weeks: 25 lbs
191.29 - 177.07 = 14.22 lbs. LBM increase
14.22/25 = 56.8% of gain as LBM, .92 lb./week

Mother fucker gained a pound of muscle a week for 4 months. How is that not crazy.

>>41588647
Normies do

>>41588697
it's the best intro program for someone looking to venture into powerlifting and it's decent for someone that wants to go into another strength sport in the far future.

For Bodybuilding? Fuck no, much better ways to blast through your noob gains phase. More volume does the trick, and brosplit faggots only look like shit because they neglect certain parts and don't eat enough

>>41588716
because people think that they can get big without eating and that they will look like any YT fitness celebrity after 1 year of PPL

>>41588716
LBM calculations are highly inaccurate, also his bodyfat% is far above that. Water weight not included either, if you think that's 190 lbs of lean mass with those stick arms you're deluded

I hope everyone has figured out he's trying to groom men into looking like that naked pepe picture with a big ass and chicken lower legs. You've all been scammed.

>>41588738

Literally posted under the stats

Now, it may be that I don't know how to use skinfold calipers, but you assume that at your PERIL. These pictures clearly show a male at about 20-22% bodyfat. It may even be that I shopped the pictures, but I know even less about that than I do lighting. The fact is that Zach has gained 78 lbs. in 6 months, 46 lbs. of which is LBM. His squat has gone from 145 x 5 to 345 x 5. Anyone who says otherwise is either calling me a liar or is saying that I don’t know how to weigh and measure bodyfat. That’s fine, and we can settle it whenever you want to. Anyone who says that skinfold caliper testing in the hands of an experienced operator is inaccurate compared to hydrostatic weighing is unfamiliar with the procedures. Furthermore, Zach is not taking steroids, and anybody who claims this is full of shit, as is anyone who says that X lbs. of LBM/year are the absolute maximum that can be gained. We do it here all the time, and you can too if you do the program correctly.

>>41588675
He's a MASSIVE cut from looking ok. If he went on a lean bulk and a ppl, upper/lower, or brosplit for a year he'd look 10x better than he would at the end of his cut and enjoy the journey twice as much.

>>41588771
cool you read that article, I did it like 7 years ago when this meme was posted everywhere. Using LBM for bulkers when water weight alone makes a huge contribution is retarded, end of rine.

>>41588764
>decide to start lifting
>read SS and PP
>start lifting and eating right
>gain weight and strength
>reach 1/2/3/a bit over 3.5 in around 8 months
>cut all fat in the next 2 months
>realize that most people haven't even read the book and don't know how to eat

i had great results with SS but then again also did accessories and both bench and press on the same day (did press for volume if heavy bench or the other way around)

>>41588431
is this the natty limit

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>>41588674
Nah, this is

>>41588675

Except Rip's whole philosophy is if that guy goes on a cut to look more aesthetic he's basically a fag

>>41588814
lol you looking to start an itty bitty titty committee?

>>41588822
wrong. he said in one of his podcasts that people misunderstood his GOMAD advice. it's only for literal skeletons not people who are already fat. he said that you should never go above 20-25%. all he wanted to say is that you can't grow if you don't eat like you want to grow. people who are obsessed with their abs are the target of that because their progress is not good because they don't want to eat.

>>41588716
E-statting, lol

>>41588849

I didn't say anything about GOMAD. 25% is also fat as fuck. There's really no reason to go above 18. If someone wanted to drop down from 18 to 12 and lose some strength in the process he would probably make fun of them.

>>41588889
>above 18
I'd even say above 15-16. As soon as your abs go, it's time to stop and start another cut/bulk cycle. Or maintain if you're already thicc

>>41588431
pajama boy doesnt look to magazines or websites to define his goals
-mark rippetoe, "my goals are more valid than yours", startingstrength.com

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>>41588771
So he's claiming this kid gained twice as much muscle in 6 months of SS as actors do with access to steroids, professional trainers, nutritionists, and 2 hour a day workouts?

>>41588952
more muscle mass than serge nubret

>>41588494
Are you joking? Just look how many fucking redditors and kids on 4chan recommend trash routine like starting strength and stronglifts

>>41588431
>http://startingstrength.com/article/pajama-boy-redux-the-male-in-modern-society

As if he is the only fitness personality that rambles on with faux-inspirational garbage.

>>41588952
They don't eat big

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>>41588575
I would do the same
Rippe was actually strong

>>41588874
Not estats he strict presses 245 for reps, 5x5 iirc
You're just a jelly little fuccboii

so i've been doing stronglifts + accessory work, eating at ~TDEE + ~300 (w/ .8-1g protein/bodyweight)

am i doing it right? am i getting meme'd? i really just want to look good, i'm weak as fuck so i need to improve that but that's not really my main goal, also i don't mind if i'm not making 100% max gainz as long as i don't turn into a chubby fuck in the process.

what should i be doing?

>>41589072
SS + accessory work + TDEE+500

>>41589072
Do Candito's LP program

>>41589072
SS > SL, but the differences between beginner plans are not particularly large. it's more important that you pick a plan and stick to it than fuss about trying to solve an insoluble optimisation problem

you aren't being memed. don't expect to look good in the short term, though. it's a long trek

and you're not going to get fat overnight. once you're so fat that you start hating yourself, cut

>>41588431
>>41588930
"rational analysis" suggests blowing out your body by your 40s with YUGE LIFTS to impress other men may not be the best life strategy

it's feefees all the way down

>>41588809
>this
fucking this, 80% of guys here are maymaying about SS but how many of you actually read that book?

>>41589124
do i need to preemptively bump up to TDEE+500? or should i stick to what i've got and only increase if i'm stalling on progressions?

>>41589072
You'll be fine doing what you're doing as long as you're mindful and consistent

>>41589189
the difference is small (and probably comparable to the measurement errors and the fluctuations in your TDEE (e.g. 1 kcal of protein requires more energy to consume than 1 kcal of sugar, etc.)). the consequent effects will be small. you're overthinking it; eat at a small surplus, whether that be 300 kcal/day or 500 kcal/day. it's up to you

>>41589190
Boardshorts you're still here? Thought you would have made it and left by now.

>>41589226
I drop by and offer dissent here and there.

Gotta go for now, in Cancun and don't have internet outside of the room

>>41589069
mark rippetoe was never strong in his entire life despite that being the only thing he cared about. he always looked like shit as well.

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>>41589297
a 60 yo guy deadlifting 5pl8 is pretty impressive

>>41589317
not if hes 230 lbs and on hrt

i think the decline started when people started taking the chad meme seriously.

>>41588633
>No one cares how much you can squat if you're at 25% bodyfat.
Who cares about who cares

>>41588494

>Crossfit
>Strengt training

AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>41588814

Awful.

>>41588633

My coach would care.

>>41589190
>>41589216

sounds good. much appreciated gents.

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>>41589091
>implying accessory work isn't already In The Program

>>41589331
okay Mr. Autism

>>41588431
The guy does look good. He has the 'dadbod' like in that pic that has dadbod (chopping wood) vs. lazy shitbag bod (some skinnyfats drinking beer)

Also that might not be his max that he's deadlifting.

>>41589437
>awful
post what you consider a good body then

>>41590078
youre p. good at lifting by normie standards for a 60 year old mr hrt spent your entire life telling people how to do a deadlift morbidly obese bmi ruined knees man.

>>41590051
How do your knees handle 5 days of squatting.

>>41590207
>Monday
>Wednesday
>Friday
>5

>>41589005
Kys my man

>>41588494
Crossfit hate on here is silly. The people I know and known that do or have done crossfit push themselves super fucking hard, and are fit as fuck. I doubt half of the giggling fatass powerlifters shitting on them can compete.

>>41588567
Baldcel cope. Haor loss is triggered by DHT sensitivity, NOT your test levels.

>>41590634
16:57 and onwards. truly, the World's Fittest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTF3oTlZysE

>>41588606
No he doesn't lmao, he looks like a fat sack of shit you delusional fuck

Only way you'd think he doesn't look like a fat sack of shit is if you're an even fatter sack of shit LOL

>>41588431
>looks good
>massive gut sticking out

never change ripetits

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>>41588716
When will you fucking retards finally realise that only a small proportion of lean body mass is muscle?

>>41590207
Counting really isn't your strong suit, is it Opie?

>>41590187
>bmi

If you just looked at the shit articles rip writes nowadays you could have found loads of stupid shit to bring to your internet arguments without making a fool of yourself like that.

Ex: "Olympic lifting isn't strength training" - Rip referring to the "Bulgarian style" oly training which is highly specific to the sport and doesn't include any bench/deadlift/back squat work.

>>41590634
Crossfit should only be done by a tiny part of the population that needs it like police and firefighters.

>>41589331

You'll never be able to do that and the man is likely thrice your age.

Git gud faggot

>>41589421

You started lifting to get a better looking body.

Don't lie to yourself anon.

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>>41591353
Don't project like this anon you double nigger

Obviously not him but I started because lifting heavy shit looked awesome and also because I wouldn't stand to have my then-gf be more fit than me

>>41588431
Nobody in that image looks happy to be alive.

>>41590634
I agree CrossFit is a blessing. I look forward to watching the deadlift ladders every year. All the guys and I get a good kick out of watching the event once a year. It's incredible how much the human body can take without becoming paralyzed.

>>41588814
>Balconybro as goal
I see you want to be paper thin with chop stick legs.

>>41588692
>tfw no 25% bf

>>41588548
May be sagging skin from age, or from being fat in the past.

Either way, most folks balloon at that age. Gotta 'mire dat.

>>41591415
Mirin that webm
Pretty much goal body, although pecs seem a bit bigger than perfect-size