/fraud/ - abusing steroids to make up for our feelings of in

Previously on /fraud/ >>>41573903

CUTE Loli good job

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> tfw plateau on a blast

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>Just got a reply from Netspend about my prepaid card not activating and my account being locked
>They want me to send a pic of my SSN, state issued ID, and my utility bill
>Only have SSN, student ID, dont have utility bill
>In the email it sounds like they wanna ship me a card even though I already bought one from the store
This is gay
Are there any cards you can buy at the store that don't make you jump through a bunch of hoops?

>>41587849
Double the tren.

>>41587887
Bluebird, but it's American Express which triggers some people.

>>41587849
eat more clean carbs

>cycle hcg to get some volume in my loads
>only produce tons more precum and just some more cum
why is this

>>41588074
Drink water

6 hour hike tommorow while on 800 tren/week. Wish me luck boys

>>41587919
The middleman I wanna use to send money through to my source doesn't accept American Express.

>>41588109
u ded

Does anyone know what PPL ships through? I thought it was EMS but they gave me a tracking number 3 days ago and it's not working lol

>>41588137
Mine came though EMS. It takes some time for it to show up on the tracking site.
Read through the shipping FAQ on his site

>>41588120
Just buy bitcoin cuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwnfcX6eiH8

Damn it Rich, stop dropping 90s broscience on everyone.

>>41588426
what points are exactly broscience?

>>41588580
>if you take test too young your levels will never recover
>you build tolerance to steroids over time

> tfw only halfway there to making it

how to get started becoming a /fraud/?

>>41588383
will probably follow up by eating pso, only not for scalp restoration

>>41588770
read the op

>>41588847
21 years old 195 pounds 6'2 , 12% bodyfat bench: 260 , squat: 350, deadlift: 440
Am I reading for my first cycle or should I try to get my numbers up more? Mentally, I'm mature enough and I am informed IMO. Also financially independent.

>>41588911
go for it fagget

16-20 weeks test e 250mg e3.5d with 12.5mg asin e3d.

>>41588929

but should I try to get closer to my natural limit

>>41588935
>natural limit

its a fucking meme. order some fucking juicy you faggot

>>41588326
Don't you need a bank account to do that?

>>41588911
youll never get off mr bones wild ride once youve gotten on

>>41588929
You mean 500mg

>>41588947

i've had a lot of people tell me this haha. is the general consensus that you PCT after 1 cycle or that you B and C? If I go on my intention is to go on for life, I don't see the point of recovering and going through a shitty PCT.

>>41588974
you want him on 1g a week?

B R U T A L

>>41588986
blast n cruise when done smart is just the way to go.

pct'ing is a shit time and a gamble.

a cycle is a period of steroids followed by pct.
for life = blast and cruise, and no you would never pct or would do a rather extensive pct.

>>41588643
>if you take test too young your levels will never recover

well im glad that my levels are naturally fucked.

>you build tolerance to steroids over time

i've only ever heard this if you keep injecting in the same spot and the androgen receptors kinda idk slack off.

>>41588643
>>you build tolerance to steroids over time

its the truth tho

>>41589006
>>41589027
>>41589053


nigga no. i'm over 6', i'm sure I can handle my test. i'm doing 1000 mg a week.

>>41589053
do you really think you build a tolerance to hormones over time

thats such a stupid fucking thought to entertain

>>41589066
are you implying height has anything to do with "handling" test

>>41589211
yes people over 6' can handle test better than people under 6'. there are more cells, more androgen receptors, etc.

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>>41589322
it just means it "works" better. but because of the increased height/mass its essentially the same.

dont see how thats "handling" anything. that was a really weird point you just made.

>gf starts calling me daddy in bed after starting tren

Uhhhh?

>>41589423
placebo/didnt happen

post something interesting please

>>41589455
Jelly?

>>41589423
>tfwnogf

>>41589591
why dont you make a tinder account or something.

its over with your ex, find something new and exciting.

>>41589593
I feel too inadquate to make a tinder. After my 18 week tren blast then maybe.

How fucked are your natty levels gonna be if you start BnC at age 18 but PCT properly if you come off? Is there really that much of a difference between starting roids at age 25 versus age 18?

Cuz I'm already on

>>41589322
>evidence that manlets suck at steroids

steroids are not for manlets

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>>41589605
same boat as you except im set up for life with TRT.

Its a gamble, you might turn out just fine after pct, be a bit worse or completely fucked as per test levels.

We dont know, neither does science know.

>>41589605
>>41589651
don't really care as long as I'm fertile.

You can make a lifetime supply of test for a few hundred bucks and it takes 10 minutes a week to pin

>>41589053
you wont get a tolerance.
but 250 a week can only build that much
if you are over you need more. simple as that


dexa scan says 84kg lbm at 190cm
dexa scan 3 years ago said 71kg

soooo 13kg in 3 years is that somewhat okay or did i fuck up?
>tfw still need 6kg to be at 100kg 10%

>>41589604
>I feel too inadquate for a bunch of roaties and blown out single mommies
hm

>>41589604
>tfw feel the same way

All pics are with my ex gf too so I don't even have any decent pics to post up, plus autistic so can't be bothered to make a bio

Is 300mg NPP pointless? Should I just run 600mg?

>>41589976
could've just said you fear rejection

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>>41589976
just use photos with your ex and add a retarded commentar like "i am the hot one on the right"
ill bet that gets you even more matches due to "muh social status cant be a rapist if a girl likes him"

>>41589604
>entertaining the notion of a tinder relationship
>claims to be religious
what a /fraud/

>>41590091
I hate whores like this.

Sharia NOW

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>>41590336
كنت رن؟

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>>41590336
you dont have to fuck her, more for us then

>>41590425
>>41590091
all these girls using var and masteron and getting wigs and fake tits

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>>41590425
>implying Thot Patrol will spare anyone

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>>41590439
thanks cpt obvious welcome on board
>>41590446
If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself

Will nolva 20 ed prevent sdrol gyno

>>41590640
probably not. nolva isnt that great.

ralox.

>>41590644
That's expensive just fucking KILL ME god damn

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>tfw the summer heat brings out the pancake gyno nipples

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>tfw spent 50$ on a pretty decent fluffy and somewhat curly female wig
>tfw being a meathead juicer, I don't know how to style it and rolled a 1 on my dexterity stat
>tfw have to do the walk of shame in a hair salon and pay another 30bux to have her style it in a more manly fashion

Gonna spend 140$ on my 2nd costume, fuark.

but at least its excellent motivation to stay in condition

>>41590689
gay

>>41590720

you wont be saying the same thing when I pick up all the underaged girly boys while you play with yourself or with some thot.

>>41590745
>you won't be calling me GAY after I fuck some cute males

>>41590589
>tfw she will never fuck my ass in that outfit

>>41590819
thats a classic fraud, just say no homo.

>>41590689
i also tend to call it gay.
but i have heard a fit cosplay outfit is the holygrail in asian countries for fucking those thight asian miring pussy

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>>41590682
Don't remind me

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Does anyone ever get busted for having steroids mailed to them?

Anyone have any stories of shit going wrong?

Not talking about getting a truck load either, just personal use.

What happens when cops find them?

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>>41590983
forgot a fit qt pic
have 2 now

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At least I know where to pin without hitting any veins lel

>>41591014
ughhh thiccer

>>41591014
DADDY

>>41590994
those arent cute theyre just bimbos they havent ever worked for a single thing in their life

>>41591051
women rarely do

most of them aren't cute either

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>>41591051
lets say fuckable then whatever

>>41590139
I never claimed I was a good Christian.

>injects some leftover prepared hcg I found from last year
what could go wrong

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I emailed my order and they sent me a bitcoin address but I don't want to buy from them anymore due to some bad reviews.

How scum is it to back out of an order?

>>41591452
who cares its anonymous just block him

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>>41591452
considering he wont do jackshit until you pay him, it wouldnt matter.

come on, have some backbone.

>>41591495
what trt protocol does your doctor have you on

mine just put me on 70mg e3.5d so 140mg a week, with HCG and .15 arimidex on pin days

>>41591579
150mg test cyp a week, 75mg e3.5d with 0.25arimidex on pin days. No HCG.

assuming you're not using pill form adex?

>>41587718
If I want to have the world's most devastating punch, how should I train?

>>41591605
it's in the mail idk

how come no HCG don't you care about big juicy gorilla loads

>>41591610
You have exactly one guess

sub 400 test as male in early twenties. docs won't give me trt. should I do it myself?

>>41591610
here's what you do kid

go to the tricep pulldown machine

i want you to grab the rope with one hand ok

then i want you to PUNCH towards the ground while holding the rope

trust me im a 6 time mma champion cant reveal my identity tho

>>41591622
its expensive.

>>41591626
My guess is PUNCHING did i do it right

How do you guys pass the time while on DNP and having no responsibilities? Not into anime, and don't have enough energy for multiplayer video games. Only TV I ever liked was walking dead and breaking bad, and walking dead I stopped watching a few seasons ago when it got into that interracial shit.

>>41589101
>do you really think you build a tolerance to hormones over time

What is diabetes for 500.

That being said I have no idea if the same thing happens with steroids. It's a completely different mechanism and if anything it would be akin to the old myth that you get diabetes from eating too much sugar so I would guess no.

But still excessive levels of hormones can lead to insensitivity and a decrease in receptors in general.

Wow, I pinned deltoids for the first time and even though it's a virgin muscle, the PIP doesn't hurt at all.

I was pinning ventrogluteal prior to this the PIP Was beyond words bad.

>>41591783
>decrease in receptors in general.
getting sick of having to correct retards that the opposite occurs. google androgen receptor upregulation

>>41591783
>What is diabetes for 500
hoooly fuck you're dumb

nevermind you should trip here dude enlighten us all

>>41591768
Watch Better Call Saul if you liked Breaking Bad.

14 weeks into basic test cycle. Add 50mg ed tren or increase to 1g test for 6 weeks?

>>41591810
I said that I was not referring to the specifically androgen receptors so are you telling my receptor pruning never occurs in the body due to excessive hormone release? Because if so there's some medical professors I need to talk to.

>>41591851
Then enlighten me dumbass. How is diabetes not related to decreased receptor sensitivity when every single paper on the subject says otherwise?

>>41591981
happy with the results of cycle?

>>41592005
cuz you said "still excessive levels of hormones can lead to insensitivity and a decrease in receptors in general" and i thought that was implying this in regards to AAS

>>41592072
No I wasn't anon but I had not heard of injections causing an up regulation either which sounds interesting. I tried googling it but couldn't find any decent science papers on the topic. Do you have a link on hand about it?

Lads, I need a lesson in dealing with female low self esteem.

How do you lay ground rules like "don't get fat" without upsetting them? I've never had this conversation go over well.

>>41592178
Don't date mentally ill girls and they wont get fat. Fatties are almost always depressed or have some latent mental disorder that they're coping with by eating which makes them feel good.

>>41592225
Kinda true actually

>>41592178

Date Asian women. Actual Asian women though, not just "my grandma moved here from China in the fifties" Asian. They never get fat.

Is there a med you can take for kidney support?

>>41588935
>Blah blah blah waste two years for nothing
Just juice it faggot Test E

>>41592503
horse semen helps

>>41591014
Pin your ass you fucking faggot idiot

>>41592571
>pinning ass ED

enjoy that scar tissue babe :)

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Anyone else here pretend to be experts on things they know nothing about? Scary thinking about how many people take my advice because I act like an authority on the matter.

>>41592750
t. Every skinnyfat trap-loving manlet faggot on this board

>>41592564
I already take that! but what else can I take?

>>41587718
is it okay to do 15 weeks of test-e as my first roid cycle?

>>41592883
No your mom will walk in & say stop it

>>41592888
i mean compared to the typical 10-12 week 'beginner cycles' i see. is there any downside to doing 15 weeks, other than a potentially longer PCT?

>>41591783
>>41592750
insulin delivers nutrients to cells, diabetes is not caused by the downregulation of receptors

now leave before this general gets any worse please

>>41592038
I guess. Feel like I should be bigger.

>>41592920
Time on = time off.. Any steroid cycle you do will be harder to recover from if it's longer..

>>41592920
>PCT

can we stop this meme already?

>>41593072
no because im below the """natty limit""" and i just want to roid to get closer to my limit. i have no desire or intention to blast and cruise -- i just want to do a few cycles with good PCT, under the expectation that i will lose some gains (but not all or even most of them) when i come off cycle.

>>41593100
>i just want to roid to get closer to my limit.
why?

>Female friend says "guys who ask me to shave my arm pit hair are misogynistic"
>never saw her arm pits or knew this about her before
She is just a friend and nothing more, but can I even be friends with this person? I feel like it's impossible. I feel like I have to drop her as a friend.

>>41593126
for the same reason you want to get bigger. it's just that i don't want to get huge. i just want to get close to my natty limit, so i can look better and be more attractive, but without the corresponding health issues of being on a lifetime blast and cruise dependency.

>>41593189
Good answer.

>>41593166
Yes. Women who think that expectations in appearance are misogynistic are idiots and mentally ill.

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Sup guys dropped to 154lbs still a fat pos. Anyways found a new girl but she's still in contact with ex should I steer clear of keep hanging with her?

>>41593272
Are you like 5'2?

>>41593237
>women

can we stop this meme already?

>>41593306
Are you saying women are a meme because if that's the joke I laughed at it

>>41593294
Nah 5'7 manlet af

>>41593333
hehe yep

>>41593166
What I don't understand is how is she going to date guys? Fully 90% of guys are going to want you to shave your pits, and the remaining 10% who don't are ugly numale redditor male feminists, and women obviously don't want to date them.

kickstarting my first cycle with 50 mg dbol is scary I guess I'll start out with 12.5 asin eod? cruise level test.

>>41589816
tolerance is probably the wrong term because it is generally used in the context of narcotics,
however your body may become less receptive to testosterone and its derivatives over time, as well as cumulative health risks becoming more serious.

personally i would only recommend one or two cycles (10/12 weeks or less) a year, that way you are forced to up your natty performance to keep your gains from gear when you are off and allow your body to adjust to its new state, then when you go back on again the benefits will be significantly higher as the training and technique should be better.

but to each his own

>>41593394
>first cycle
>cruise level test
what

>>41590993
if they do get seized, i have heard that they are usually disposed of unless the amount seized is significant. or the police are short on work

the police have a shitload to deal with so small seizures of prescription medication arnt really worth their while, however if they do come a knocking then there is a bunch of precautions you can take:
1) politely refuse entry unless they have a warrant (they usually dont)
2) someone who i met told me that they use an encrypted browser to order their shit, abbreviate the name on your address so the full name is not on there (creates ambiguity)
then changes the ID on the browser.
3) never order more than you need
4)if arrested you HAVE TO TELL THEM YOU ARE EXERCISING YOUR RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, then keep your mouth shut, and if you are questioned only open your mouth to politely ask for a lawyer or a phone call

>>41591626
desensitizing your T receptors?
increased estrogen?

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Has anyone tried unflavored MyProtein.com whey protein? I am wondering if it's nasty as fuck. I noticed that it's the cheapest of any of the protein powders so if I can get it to go down the hatch without throwing up, it's possibly worth it.

>>41591610
lots of push-ups from lots of different angles, train free weight.

dumbell flys on an incline press changing your angle every ten reps.

only use the heavy bag, use 16+ ounce gloves and dfor one minuite intervals hit the bag as hard and fast as you can for one minute intervals, remember to pump your shoulders into the punch and really twist your core starting from your hips.

remember to hit with the first three knuckles of your hand when using gloves and the first two when bare-fist(never barefist on a public bag, the grime and shit on it will give you an infection if you split your knuckles)

give your hands at least two days to recover between bag use otherwise the likelyhood of a break increases (unless you are using GH or peptides)

>>41593499
>MyProtein.com
cheaper whey proteins dont dissolve well and have the tendency to burn your anus on the 'whey' out

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went from a
>social DYEL university student with plenty of interaction with girls (minimal sexual) and a lot of friends, loving life
to
>reclusive frauding dropout with minimal interaction with girls (zero sexual) and no friends, annoyed with life

does it just keep getting worse the more gear i run?

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>>41590993
I remember when I was paranoid. Good times.

If you buy with bitcoin, there is no way they can trace the package to you! If they open your package and examine the contents, they probably will not arrest you, but you may get a letter in the mail notifying you that the package was seized. Nothing further happens in this case.

If they decide to go your house to arrest you for a trail-less package delivered to your address, act surprised and stay silent. Just don't answer questions. If you watch Cops you will see how they bait you into admitting guilt. "When did you order this?" "What did you plan to do with this?" "So much how was there?" Answering specifics about the package ties you to the package. If you simply stay silent, they can't do anything.

The only timeyou have to worry is during a house search. I have no idea why that would ever happen, but in that case you wouldn't have a legal defense. Thankfully, police need a warrant to enter your house and they will never get that warrant as long as you're living like a good boy. The #1 rule of crimes is: do not commit more than 1 crime at once. A slip-up in 1 crime opens the door to investigation where your other crimes will be discovered. Watch Cops and see the amazing number of people who run stop signs while carrying 5 lbs of meth in their car.

If you are truly worried about receiving the package, order it early. When you receive the package, write "return to sender" and leave it on your kitchen counter for 2 weeks. If you do this, and the police decide to randomly search your house, you can say that you do not recognize the package and you were going to return the package but you haven't gotten around to it yet. After 2 weeks there is a 0% chance of police coming to your house, so it's safe to open it at that point.

>>41593499
It's not awful but it gets old real quick. Wouldn't recommend unflavored, their other stuff is okay tho

>>41593550
it's supposed to get better. you're doing it wrong.

>>41593526
What source* of protein do you recommend?

*Translator's Note: This type of source talk is ALLOWED and LEGAL because protein is a legal item

>>41592935
>http://www.jbc.org/content/256/4/1689.full.pdf

>Exposure of chick liver cells in monolayer culture to 6 X lo-’ M insulin for 18 h caused typical “down-regulation” of cell surface insulin receptors. Cell surface receptor number decreased 608, Le. from 10,000 to 4,000 sites/cell, with no apparent alteration in the affinity of the receptor for insulin.

It's a well respected hypothesis of the pathophysiology of diabetes type 2 that has been shown in animal models and is expected to modulate much of the improvement in long term diet changes via the increase fluidity of the cell membrane leading to increased insulin receptor density to counteract the loss from high levels of insulin. You don't hear about it much though as the research focus is on correcting mutated receptors since that can actually be currently manipulated with medication.

>>41593616
i was just saying what i had found, personally i prefer whey proteins that dissolve very easily and arnt too thick. i would be interested to see what your experiences are with it

>>41593697
Oh. I ordered an 11lb bag of some cinnamon flavor so experiment has been cancelled.

>>41593499
>>41593750
the thing is that they also sell "flavor" drops that you're supposed to buy with your unflavored whey

it's so you can buy a giant ass 11lb pouch but change the flavor as you go along if you don't like it/want a change

>>41593515

>starting from your hips

Nah dawg. Punches start in your feet. Just like swinging a baseball bat.

>>41593785
Oh so the appeal of the unflavored whey is that you buy 3 different flavor vials and then you can change the taste of every protein shake you drink, rather than buy a single flavor 11lb bag that you can't change. That is interesting.

>>41589423
mynigga.gif

>>41593795
nope, foot placement is essential for delivering a decent punch, however the twist of the hips, propelled by the quads sets up the whole shebang

>>41593888
Foot posting, hip and shoulder turning to extend your hook and jobs for ultimate reach and power.

>>41593550
I did that but dropped out of high school

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What do I need to have on hand when running tren for the first time? Just some caber?

>>41594151
p5p works for me, still have caber on hand just incase but i didn't need it at 500mg/week

100-200mg p5p daily

fuck anime

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>>41594405
What the FUCK did you just say you little bitch?

>>41590640
>Sdrol gyno

Nigga tf u smoking

>>41590993
>Tfw raw powders seized
>Tfw got a letter asking for an explanation
>Tell them what's in the package (adrol, asin, nolva, tudca, lgd)
>Kinda hard to communicate
>Go to customs in person
>Anon is this your package?
>Customs qt pulls out photos of stealth packaging and scan showing the powder
>Nervous sweat and act surprised with my meagre Japanese level
>Qt says because it's powder not tablets we can't separate the amount for you, there's too much anadrol, but we can take that out and give you the rest
>Tell them it's okay, send back to sender, as replacement order is on the way with correct amount
>Asked seller for resend with less adrol and to add tbol, dbol, sdrol, anavar
>Tfw new package cleared 20 min after leaving customs
>Tfw whoever packed it didn't reduce the adrol amount so still got a shitload of it

They didnt seem to care it was hidden powder in stealth packaging (the scan picked the powder straight out of the packaging btw), I guess the rules only stipulate what is and isn't allowed and limits on prescription medications, not the form or packaging and labeling.

>Tfw didn't get cavity search/prostate massage from qt customs girl

>>41594420
if there's one thing I learned from my 2 years in japan, it's that any time you're in any kind of trouble, pretend you don't speak any japanese at all. you get away with E V E R Y T H I N G

>>41588109
RIP.

>>41594512
Well its legal to import steroids, but only 1 or 2 months supply (which the ministry of health can tell you how much is for each compound) for the ones that don't have a prescription in Japan there's probably no legal limit. It's just narcotics that are illegal to import - this probably some stimulants too. Oh syringes too, get them locally.

Customs agent didn't know what it was anyway just asked me what it was for so I told her red blood cell production.

>Anon sorry I am married
>I don't understand any Japanese
>Well ok at least use a condom it's not a safe day
>What is that? I don't understand
>Nevermind then let me lock my legs around you, make sure you fill me up good
>Ok

do I really need tudca for dbol

seems like a hassle liver toxicity is a meme right

>>41589423
Haha its the pheromones bruh, enjoy it while it lasts

>>41589455
Tren gets ladies hot, idk how maybe coz its super angrogenic, 5x test

>>41595144
it's all a meme bro haha YOLO :)

Keep getting headaches on clen, is this normal?

I've used clen a handful of times but that was several years ago, I don't recall headaches being a side effect back then

I used to do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, now I'm trying 2 days on 2 days off

>That fat roider with moonface at my gym

Why do you people do this? If you're going to roid can you at least please look better than natties?

>>41589604
post current body

>>41595262
Hrs bulking fuck OFF

>>41595262
Wet compounds give the most gains queer

>>41595262
>wtf why is does someone steroids look like shit? I mean steroids are magic muscle juice which automatically turn you into arnie and you don't put on any bodyfat, right guise!? RIGHT!?

kys

>>41595407
No you autistic christfag I'm saying that if you're going to use steroids you should at least look better than naturals. It's fucking retarded to be using drugs and then being weaker AND looking worse than a natty.

>>41595636
>It's fucking retarded to be using drugs and then being weaker AND looking worse than a natty.

Ever considered the fact he's just a fucking idiot and not a representation of majority of steroid users?

>>41595764
Yeah that's what I'm saying, what the shit is up with people who think they're 5 bottles of dbol away from mr olympia

>>41595636
>Look better than naturals
Then you wouldn't need steroids?

>>41595788
Because they're dumb.

>>41595811
That's most roiders at my gym. There's just no helping some people is there?

>>41595262
Maybe he just wants to get hyoog and strong.

Not everyones end goal is being shredded.

I caved and texted my ex. I just want attention.

Why am I such a piece of pathetic shit? I hate myself so fucking much.

>>41596057
You're not going to get what you want and getting over her will take longer.

You'll be disgusted with yourself eventually but you should be using this experience as a learning opportunity so you dont end up the same wreck for future break ups.

Bitch is a hoe

>>41596089
She's not a hoe though. I know how /fraud/ and /fit/ and 4chan thinks "everybody says their girl isn't a hoe and is a pussywhipped bitch" but I've literally been with an actual whore of a girl before. I know what they're like.

>>41596127
shes leeching ur emotions and toying with you.

Whores are wonderful magical creatures. Shes a selfish piece of shit.

She doesnt want you but wants all the benefits of you wanting her. We've all experienced this shit buddy

What is wrong with this papa_shango fuck on sst? Why is he always sperging out

>>41596157
I disagree. I would like to think myself smart enough to see that if it were happening.

>>41596182
>I disagree. I would like to think myself smart enough to see that if it were happening.
We all like to think that, we all like to think 'shes' different, we all make mistakes.

>>41596196
It's hard man. I thought I was going to marry her.

>>41596167
bad muti got him goin craycray
>>41596223
It will be difficult, but a lesson worth learning.

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She's so sweet and loving. Please just fucking tear my heart out.

>>41596465
shes a condescending cunt.

>>41596499
In context it's not condescending but too much shit to edit out.

>>41595764
>not a representation of majority of steroid users

lol good one

>steroid general
>instead it's just a bunch of losers crying about their relationships

Sad!

>>41596579
Excuse me but the OP says
>abusing steroids to make up for our feelings of inadequacy

So it's totally relevant.

>>41596579
/Fraud/ is people who use steroids shitposting about life.

Its always been that way

What are Thai girls like? I'm talking to this chick on okcupid who is pretty into me I guess, she's here for a year only though to work.

>>41595990

Where can I go to read posts from people like that? /fraud/'s autistic screeching at anyone who doesn't have shreds is starting to hurt my ears, but the only other place I know of is reddit, and they don't even lift.

>>41596927
Plg

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>>41596962

They don't lift, either. Except for the old trips, who are mostly gone now. It's just shitheads talking to themselves and spamming about traps and genetics.

I miss the olden times of plg.

Also, they're super anti-steroid over there for some reason.

>>41597009
>Also, they're super anti-steroid over there for some reason.
I can't blame them. Look at us, a gay pornstar, chem the living guinea pig, a pedophile, eating raw mince and exgf issues.

>>41597043

Fair point lel.

I just don't get why they hate it so much. When one of the trips decided to go on a cycle, he was flamed out of threads for a while until he left. He was a good contributor to discussion, so it was bad for the thread when he decided to stop coming in because of all that.

>>41597064
Because these are the same people who tout about 'muh pure virgin waifus'. Using steroids taints your natural 'purity'.

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>>41597084

Buncha slack-jawed, limp-dicked faggots over there nowadays.

I wish we had a thread for strength training that was roid-friendly, but it's too specific to warrant a general.

I really like the format of 4chan, but we need better people using it.

>>41597161
Just fuck off to leddit then

>>41597174

We just went over the fact that most of reddit doesn't even lift, even on the steroid subs.

>>41597161
Look, faggot, speak about what you want to here. The responses you get will be determined by how you act and who your audience is at that time.

Plenty of people here talk about strength training.

>>41597161
>format of 4chan

But why? It's awful in every way.

>>41597217

I haven't gotten good reception in the past, but I'll keep trying.

>>41597247

Nah, I like it. It's very compact, I can reply to multiple posts at one time, I can view comment trees easily, and I like the anonymity.

>>41597247
the layout is vastly superior to reddit

>>41597247
4chan is the best format. Leddit confuses me and normal forums become very clunky the longer a thread goes on.

>>41597200
Neither do people here

Tren isn't giving me night sweats but it's definitely raising my core temp making it difficult to sleep.

Also I still love exgf.

>>41596962
>>41597009

PLG doesn't lift and they are all in denial because the people they aspire to be like are on the juice.

Also it's not even about PL anymore, it's become some shitty autismo blog.

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WTF is it with tren and making me love this girl so fucking much? I guess it doesn't hurt she loves me too but damn I can't stop thinking about her. Today I was asking people at work if they wanted anything from a city I'm flying over to for a couple days and she asked for something small but her eyes started to well up while she was talking to me and she looked like she was going to start crying like fugg just gotta hold her since I won't see her for almost a week. Some people on leddit were saying tren makes them more romantic too so I guess it's not just me.

Fuckin love and shit.

>>41598450
>WTF is it with tren and making me love this girl so fucking much?
shes probably fucking someone else right now

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Sup guys, I'm looking for a reccomendation of an oral. Currently on

600Tren/300Test/600Mast.

Im cut for the summer but I got an ocd impulse right now and want fucking bigger delts. Sure, tren does the job but I want to add an oral.

I was thinking;

>mtren
>anavar
>epi
>superdrol

Going with mtren probably since huge gains and maybe get leaner, but im not sure. Anyone can pitch in?

>>41598710
tbol brah. i wouldnt fucking get close to mtren

>>41598739
Toxicity of mtren is overrated. As long as you're doing below 1.5mg, I felt fine.

I just want something to build quick shoulder mass, even if temporal. Im fucking terrible at capping delts since my triceps are huge, and the way they are shaped its elongated more than round.

How is tbol for it? Ive actually never tried tbol.

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>>41598450
>tren makes them more romantic
Yeah me too
I want to romantically lick loli armpits

does fraud have a a discord or slack? gonna jump the gains train soon

>>41598769
tbol = lean gains. kinda like a dry and a little bit weaker dbol.

im not even sure why you wanna add a roid for the delts. just work more delts.

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>>41598658
She's at work for one and really she has no friends, she admitted she rarely leaves the house except for work and shopping. I invited her on this trip but I only gave her a week's notice and she couldn't find people to cover her shifts. Makes me sad desu because she is fun and nice to be around. When I get back I'm going to try and get her to go up to Boston for a day trip if not overnight although I'll need to find an overnight kennel for her cats.

Although she's never said it herself she's alluded to the fact that she's kinda poor which hinders her ability to do stuff I guess plus living alone and covering all of her expenses is probably stressful when you work a low income job. Literally she'll just stay at home with her cats and watch Netflix or listen to books on audible.

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>>41598782
Armpits are erotic to me for some reason like when a girl in a bikini puts her arms up to tie her hair back or something it's like god damn.

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Posted this in CBT, but proud of it so posting here too

405lbs 184lbs 234lbs

Just finished var, doing 2cc cypionate for 4 weeks. Super euphoric, lifts still average, wrist is hurt

>>41598885
its amazing what fat loss does to your face.while that being said, you chest needs work.looks like you never trained chest in your life.

>>41598885
Good work, keep going.

>>41598843
why didnt they give her hgh? wtf

>>41598843
>A real legal loli

I'm not sure how I should feel about this.

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>>41598843
Yeah exactly
I feel you 100%

I need a pituitary tumor gf
I never knew I needed one so bad

>>41598824
Bruh I can't believe you believe her
Shes suckin all sorts of dicks on the reg

>>41598885
Damn nice job man

>>41598885
Tell me more about your tattoo.

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>>41598906
Yeah I know...I had surgery to try and tighten it up a bit, but it still sags. Phone posting another pic to show chest progress

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>>41598952
It's a drum 'n bass record label, metalheadz

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>>41598945
>Shes suckin all sorts of dicks on the reg
Only mine senpai. Seriously though, I'd be skeptical if she were more flirty and shit but she's not and seems kinda borderline depressed which makes me want to have some fun with her and get her addickted to muh thicc cock.

>>41598926
>>41598915
>>41598945
>I need a pituitary tumor gf

Unfortunately it's a catfish and she's actually a 10yo Russian girl but maybe real ones with pituitary tumors look like that too.

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>>41599013
Girls dont need to be flirty
Guys come to them

Id take the russian too

Getting random periods of extreme tired and then wakefulness. Lasting about 20 minutes each.

Huh?

>>41598953

you're too old to be on 4chan bud

>>41599073
how well did you sleep on your little tren adventure?

might just be that you didn't get deep sleep which is now fucking with you.

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>>41599059
Hnghggh. Name?

>Guys come to them
Only other guys I know have tried to get with her were this Quasimodo looking white dude who dresses like a highschool freshman and some Asian dude

>>41599083
How old do you think I am

>>41599097
I'm still on my tren train. The insomnia is starting to hit, core body temp is up that's for sure.

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>>41599099
>Name
Nvm. Jesus she's cute.

>>41599122
hows your bp and heartrate?

are you even doing any cardio at all?

>>41599189
Heart rate has come down. Taking some b3 and magnesium. And no, cardio is for fags.

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>>41599099
Obviously shes not going to tell you about her stable, then she wouldnt be able to use you for travel

>>41599140
>not posting her pits

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>>41599349
damn son

hope the enlarged heart meme doesnt get you

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>>41599354
>she wouldnt be able to use you for travel
She has the ability to do it too just no will I guess. Also, implying I'm not creeping her extremely limited social media profiles.

I'm skipping an injection this week to see what happens

Getting blood work this week again and want to see what is going on

>>41599013
>Only mine senpai
lmao it's been weeks and I bet you haven't even held her hand yet

reeee my hcg inject site always get red and swollen. but since it's subcutaneous and it works I don't care really

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Any good places to eat at JFK airport?

how to stop boners? I get a boners just fucking talking to the cashier

Is it possible for the body to more efficiently process carbs if you keep upping it on a prolonged period?

Say you can have 200g carbs(consistently) before water retention starts creeping on the lower back/face.

What if you up yourself to 230g carbs (and lose a bit of fat, maybe protein... maybe) over a few months.

Will you initially gain some water retention but eventually slim down and be able to handle it without bloating? or are you forever cursed to stay at a carb level your genetics allow you to?

Homos like alberto nunez get to eat 500g carbs without bloat at 165lbs, while some 200lbs bodybuilders turn into water balloons past 250g.

>>41599565
where do you get hcg?

>>41599683
it's ovigil

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Hey fags

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>>41599683
>>41599701
You should just get Indian pharma.

Aipctshop is who I use. Nothing illegal.

>>41599662
Scratch that, they have a shake shack.

>>41599713
Any preggo cheerchicks?

>>41599743
Not that I know of lol. I'm home for the summer so the cheer girls are safe for now

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how the fuck do I find a gf like this?

>>41600087
$$$$$$$$$

>>41600087
leave out treats at night, fatties will come crawlin out the bushes like hedgehogs

>>41600396
>fatties
kys

>>41600087
just go to a club and take your pick of 6/10 fat roasties

if they're high on mdma they'll fuck anything

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How you faggots doing? Anyone died yet? Anyone better than me yet?

Bulk finished 2 weeks ago @ 106kg. Currently cutting again. You will see me 103 kg Shredded, shredded the next time i will return. I tell you. New me is coming you way. Dicks wills be diamonds, pussies will get wet wet

I WAS BUSY HAVING THE BOSS LIFE, KIDDING ALMOST KILLED MYSELF

>>41600087
The perfect woman body. You will never find this, only on the internet

Most woman are skinny or fat, or badly shaped

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>>41600446
>can literally see her ribs
>fat
it's all concentrated in her T H I C C hips and ass

>>41600087
get a fat girl. pay for her fat transfer from stomach to ass

>>41600501
>I WAS BUSY HAVING THE BOSS LIFE, KIDDING ALMOST KILLED MYSELF
Elaborate.

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>>41600501
Looking good friend. Did you really almost an hero or is this a JM joke

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>>41600501
>that lat spread

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I have been doing Testosterone Injections for close to 4 months now, and instead of losing my balls I know ejaculate double or triple the amount I used to.


What's going on? This normal?

>>41600569
I had suck all managers dicks to save my job from those FUCKING INDIANS, but it worked. I tell you, INDIANS are taking over the world and our jobs. Do Indians work at your place? LEAVE, fucking leave. They're like the most aggressive form of cancer, but worse

also got a new apartment and saved enough money to buy everything i want, but i am still not happy. I saved also enough for plastic surgery, i will also get soon. THIS Picture, is always changing. you know

I will never be happy.

>>41600575
Thanks m8. How are you doing atm? I miss JM and his dented balding stories

>>41598885
You an ex addict? You got that H face

>>41600669
>I saved also enough for plastic surgery
wtf

what are you getting done?

>>41599110
NOt him but you're probably in your 30s even though you could pass for 10-20 years older than that.

I don't think you're too old for 4chan, but for fucks sake make sure not to get dragged down the rabbit hole and just start wasting your life again.

>>41600501
GOOD Job looking tan for once

Don't kys I missed u bud

>>41600501
jesus.
i will be big someday but you are enormous.
my issue is that im 6'2 , and bulking is so hard, im on 3.5k calories a day and getting slow and steady gains

>>41600669
Bretty decent. Got cut from the cheer team but it's okay. Been home for 3 weeks and not one of my old teammates have talked to me. Pretty mad about it but w/e I guess they were fake friends all along

Also snapped up my back a couple months ago and I keep re injuring it and it's really pissing me off. I just want to squat again. Lost 20 pounds because no gym allowed and currently doing PCT

Probably good for my mental health to get away from cheer and lifting and girls for a while tho. I feel better now than I have in a while

Why you getting plastic surgery? What procedures and stuff

>>41600711
fixing a-symmetrical ears. Cost are 1800 euro's, it's not so much. Only downfall will be probably not training for some time. Currently cruising, and cutting hoping i can keep gains with test and much protons.

I also want a nose job, but that's some terrible recovery. You know that feel that when you look in the mirror and you see all the flaws you want to get rid of

>>41600733
Must be the lightning, I am pale af. Reflecting and blinding people on sight

>>41600761
My brother is 6'5 and he is also looking huge, yes, it's harder but nothing is impossible.

believe in yourself but nobody else than yourself.

>>41600823
are you still with that puppy eyed qt or did she leave for the bbc

>>41600780
Decent? Who are you fooling. That shit sounds terrible. God bless you sir, hope you doing good again soon

Why you PCT? scared to lose fertility, scared for heart attack? me too.

Lifting for girls? You see, this PCT is doing you no good. I know this PCT feels, i had it twice in my life.

>>41600862
Still here. When i upped the dose, i am scared to lose her. When i cruise, i want to get rid of her. I don;t understand this

I want to try something else, but i can't because everything she's doing for me. I don;t wanna feel that feel again

MasT stop being a little bitch cuck and start tren already or she will leave you.

>>41599393
bump for answers

>>41601146
answer for what? the fuck is your question?

>>41601176
On a 10 week cycle I want to stop three weeks into this cycle

>>41601196
still not a question

>>41600895
I truly do feel decent. Much less stressed about school and money and such. PCT because scared to lose fertility lol. Gonna give it a few more months and hop back on tho

>lifting for girls
I lift to be a scary person

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>>41600823
How many cycles and how long training will it take to get as hooge as masT?

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>>41601196
this isn't a question fucktard

>>41601310
>I lift to be scary
>is a male cheerleader

Can't believe I didn't jump on gear sooner.

Lifts going up, putting on size, face is less gaunt, mood is up, confidence is up, appetite is off the scale.

Good times, and I'm only just about to start week 3.

>>41601472
Just wondering if there could be any downsides to stopping early cycle, I'm 2 injections in and want to stop to see what happens, more than likely I'm going to pin tonight anyway...

>>41601639
>I'm 2 injections in and want to stop
why

So I've done 2 cycles so far. My first was a pure Test E cycle @ 250mg E3D for 16 weeks. Second cycle was Test E + Deca @ 250mg each E3D for closer to 20 weeks. Both were excellent.

Where should I go from here in terms of compound experimentation? How would a Test E + EQ cycle treat me in comparison to my first two cycles? I maintain about 15% bf all the time, eating around maintenance.

>>41601730
I already have low test, might as well keep going or stop now and live with low test?

>>41601730
I'm worried about putting on more weight and I'm trying to cut with just test

Thing is I needed a jump start to my system and the past couple of weeks have been excellent

I want to lose weight and not put on water/bloat weight on by increasing my test

>>41601572
I need all the help I can get

500mg of test E a week for 12 weeks. 250mg Monday & Thursday.

What else will I need and when should it be taken? Just curious.

>>41601899

Get Arimidex in case of sides/bloating. can do 0.5mg eod if you want to be safe. See how you feel. Get your pct in order ahead of time obviously. Nolva 40/40/20/20. Otherwise enjoy.

>>41601974
Thanks anon!

Sorry to be noob choob but the nolva 40/40/20/20 is that a day or 1 day a week? Also, any need for HCG?

>>41602056
Daily and HCG is not needed

After talking with exgf last night she admitted she misses me a lot. We're getting there /fraud/.

Also figured what might have caused my hot flushes, ate a fuckton of dates before bed. Those things are just pure carbs.

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>>41602274
>After talking with exgf last night

>>41601792
you dont get "bloat weight" from test. its about diet

its glycogen, essentially giving you a more full look.

>day 17 of anavar only
>feel extremely tired and low energy

Uh guys?..

Is the suppression meme coming to life?..

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>>41602566
sometimes i just really don't get it.

everyone tells you its stupid and then you actually flip it around and call them stupid.

>>41602614
I'm mentally ill

>>41601770
any before/after pictures of just your first cycle?

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Just as a warning ostarine/cardarine with tren = really bad prolactin issues.
Had to start blasting ralox and drop the ost/car

>>41603502
pic related?

>>41603502
Ostarine and Cardarine are different things. Which is it? Ostarine reduces SHBG levels so that possibly may have something to do with it

Do steroids make you hornier?

I'm trying to jerk off less, and now I'm about to start and I wonder if that's gonna make things harder. Although, I jerk off alot from boredom I think, and I was hoping some roids would help me be only slightly more motivated to spend those bored moments not jerking off and doing something useful when I get time. Is that a good way to look at things?

>>41602566

Running any oral alone without pinning is gonna have some undesirable sides. You took the risk when you went that route. Also depends on how much var you're taking ED

>>41603753

Tbh they didn't make me any hornier. This is on 250mg Test E and 250mg Deca E3D for like 20 weeks. I had a healthy sex drive/horniess level prior to going on tho, so maybe that's why? But I didn't feel ravenous or anything of the sort.

>>41602056

40mg ED for the first week, 40mg ED for the 2nd week, 20mg ED for the 3rd week, etc

whats a good routine when on a cycle

should you be hitting the same muscle 3 times a week or even more

>>41603876
SS+GOMAD

>>41603876
Full body 5 days a week if you're man enough

is it just me or does the increased amount of cum you shoot while on hcg prolong the orgasm slightly and make it more intense

>>41602340
It was nice.

>>41603633
I'm not sure, I was taking a 10mg/10mg combo so I'm not sure which is causing it. It wasn't a problem until the tren.

>>41603923
what bout that muscle recovery for growth science

>>41603939
What dose for more cum? Currently squirting out like 5 drops

41603792
My man! Thanks a lot buddy

>>41604123
500ui e3d is pretty standard unless you can afford more

>>41603792
Thanks buddy